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(Newser)   Anheuser-Busch gets to the bottom of how testing could show their "beer" was watered down   (newser.com) divider line 26
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2013-03-04 11:26:19 AM  
3 votes:
The biggest mystery about this whole thing is that anyone expected American beer to be any good in the first place.
2013-03-04 02:14:01 PM  
2 votes:

Two16: /may also include infanticide


I thought Monsanto were working on that, not A-B...
2013-03-04 01:55:20 PM  
2 votes:

CaptainBeer: Jim Koch has been quoted (paraphrasing) that he respects AB because no matter where in the world you are, regardless of what brewery it came from, The Budweiser always tastes exactly the same.

Does ANYONE  know how hard that is to do?


Yea I agree with that.. all the chemical engineers I know have a hard-on for AB because of the amazing manufacturing...
2013-03-04 01:41:50 PM  
2 votes:
They're not watered down like we're thinking, but I have read in my beer magazines that sometimes the big breweries brew concentrated batches then add water after fermentation.  This means they can make more beer in a smaller space.  As someone mentioned above, you have to give them credit for making a consistent product.  It's very hard to make a light lager with no noticeable off flavors.  Now, is it a good tasting beer?  Very few would argue that I think (I'd label it acceptable if you have no other options), but certainly well-made.  I often wonder what "real" Budweiser tasted like a few generations ago before Prohibition and then the light beer craze ruined American beer for decades.  I made a "real" American Pilsner last fall and it was pretty awesome.
2013-03-04 01:37:40 PM  
2 votes:

Hagenhatesyouall: The Stealth Hippopotamus: MaxxLarge: The biggest mystery about this whole thing is that anyone expected American beer to be any good in the first place.

Well, it is well crafted. It's really really different to make a lager that light consistently over and over again.

It's not my kind of beer but I can be impressed by the effort.

I am, frankly, amazed at how they manage to remove so MUCH of the flavor and character from the likes of Budweiser.

I have tried a few times to brew something as light and tasteless as Bud / Coors, but my beer has always turned out to be far too flavorful and aromatic to be even considered a close match.


Anheuser-Busch lead the world in bioprocess industrial quality control.  Seriously.  They've written books that the medical industry follows.
2013-03-04 01:11:30 PM  
2 votes:

JackieRabbit: A-B doesn't add water to their beer. I thought everyone knew that they added horse piss.


"...put the Budweiser back in the horse, boys. It's another Guinness for me.."
2013-03-04 11:49:35 AM  
2 votes:

blatz514: You watch your whore mouth!


Dude. I grew UP in Milwaukee. Lived there for 32 years. I get it.

Still, the only instances wherein I could stomach the local product was the two times I took out-of-town friends on the Miller tour, and got the free samples at the end. When their swill is tapped directly from the lines where it's ridiculously fresh, it's actually passable. Other than that, the cloying, skunky, corn-mash sour-sweetness of it is just unpalatable.
2013-03-04 02:25:33 PM  
1 votes:
This was a stupid non-story to begin with. It's stupidly simple to prove/disprove and was answered almost immediately.
2013-03-04 01:53:48 PM  
1 votes:
Tastes in beer is like taste in women: mine are great, yours suck.
2013-03-04 01:48:54 PM  
1 votes:
also
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2013-03-04 01:48:19 PM  
1 votes:
I'm going to guess that they might water the beer down to the stated % alcohol content, but not lower than. Whether the litigants have merely got the wrong end of the stick or if there's some sneaky reputational sabotage at play is another issue.
2013-03-04 01:46:12 PM  
1 votes:

bdub77: I must snob this thread up a little bit. Just had this the other night. Awesome sauce. Great IPA, not too strong and great taste.

Btw I'm sure A-B owns some great little beer companies, but their high volume stuff is indeed piss.

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copy that

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2013-03-04 01:45:55 PM  
1 votes:

MaxxLarge: The biggest mystery about this whole thing is that anyone expected American beer to be any good in the first place.


AB is not an American beer company. There are good American beers. Give sprecher, yeunglings, or Sam Adams a try.
2013-03-04 01:45:09 PM  
1 votes:
I've got news for those lawsuit-happy people.  There's not a single drink (alcoholic or non-alcoholic) that isn't made from water..in some way.  Milk..the cow drinks water.  Soft drinks..carbonated water is the base ingredient.  Kool-Aid...guess what...water & flavored sugar.  Even your favorite Scotch is made from filtered water.

Water is a basic element on this Earth & everything we drink is based upon that..  NOTHING you drink doesn't contain water!

/Prove me wrong!
2013-03-04 01:41:59 PM  
1 votes:

stlbluez: My brother has been working at that brewery for over 30 years.
Hes told me numerious times about the cost-cutting, the weirdness...
Their beloved Mich Ultra.. Bud Selects, etc... are watered down EXACTLY as the lawsuit describes.  water + extra carbonation = fewer calories... and inexplicably more expensive.

They use about half the beechwood they used to in their 'beechwood aging'.. and they age it for half as long.
Often times if a beer has some problems or irregularities.. it's 'changed'.  Bud can become busch.. busch or even bud light can become natty light, etc... with a few additives.

He's hoping this lawsuit sheds some light on the process...  even though the alcohol content motivation doesn't hold water, in his opinon.

I keep trying to tell him... dude.. no one cares.  People know what they're getting. Thats why there's  a 6 of some kind of IPA or unfiltered wheat in my fridge along with the 30pack of busch light :)


I just don't get why people are so adamant about how awful Budweiser is when beer works the same way pretty much all food works. You can pay more and go to the farmers market and get apples that taste good, or you can pay $1/lb for bright red, long shelf life apples that taste horrible. Things get even worse the more processed the food is. Manufacturers want to make money- you can make money by 1. selling more, 2. selling for more $, or 3. by cutting your costs. The big successful guys do the first and the last, local farmers or small manufacturers have to do #2.

/I would rather buy 6 good tasting beers than 24 not good tasting beers, but I am a lightweight midget who drinks like 2 beers a week.
2013-03-04 01:33:59 PM  
1 votes:

MaxxLarge: The biggest mystery about this whole thing is that anyone expected   mass produced American beer to be any good in the first place.



 FTFY.
2013-03-04 01:32:06 PM  
1 votes:
I thought everybody knew that Bud doesn't sell watered down beer.  They sell slightly beered up water.
2013-03-04 01:27:33 PM  
1 votes:
A friend once brought a 6 pack of bud light to a party.  As we opened each of the bottles, we realized that there never was and never had been beer in any of them, just very pure and good tasting water.  I was more pleased with that then if there had been beer in the bottles.  Shortly after this we realized we should have kept one capped and tried to get our money back or something, but we had already had many much better tasting beers before that.

/csb
2013-03-04 01:25:54 PM  
1 votes:
I don't get why A-B doesn't just own their clients... the low brow red neck trash of the US makes that company billions per year, yet they are constantly trying to reimage themselves, rebrand themselves, discredit claims of low quality, all to try and raise themselves a notch or 2 with the beer snob crowd...

Seriously A-B, and Miller, the two of you should embrace your clientele. Without the wife beaters and the gun freaks, without the 4x4 penis extensions, the cow nuts hanging from the bumpers, without the bleached damaged hair, and beer cozies with stupid slogans, and without nascar, where would you be?

Bankrupt and penniless that's where...

So BE PROUD of your clients american swill companies... and don't let the real craftsmen get you down, while they are perfecting the balance between hops and malt, you can laugh at their attempts all the way to the bank....
2013-03-04 01:25:00 PM  
1 votes:
According to foodandnutritionmagazine.org,

The typical American beer ranges from 90 percent to 94 percent water and averages 4.6 percent alcohol by volume

Having sex in a canoe?
2013-03-04 01:21:05 PM  
1 votes:
My brother has been working at that brewery for over 30 years.
Hes told me numerious times about the cost-cutting, the weirdness...
Their beloved Mich Ultra.. Bud Selects, etc... are watered down EXACTLY as the lawsuit describes.  water + extra carbonation = fewer calories... and inexplicably more expensive.

They use about half the beechwood they used to in their 'beechwood aging'.. and they age it for half as long.
Often times if a beer has some problems or irregularities.. it's 'changed'.  Bud can become busch.. busch or even bud light can become natty light, etc... with a few additives.

He's hoping this lawsuit sheds some light on the process...  even though the alcohol content motivation doesn't hold water, in his opinon.

I keep trying to tell him... dude.. no one cares.  People know what they're getting. Thats why there's  a 6 of some kind of IPA or unfiltered wheat in my fridge along with the 30pack of busch light :)
2013-03-04 01:18:11 PM  
1 votes:

MaxxLarge: The biggest mystery about this whole thing is that anyone expected American beer to be any good in the first place.


Not sure if trolling or just stupid.
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2013-03-04 01:15:23 PM  
1 votes:
Dear A-B could you please stop with the Landslide horse commercial.
2013-03-04 01:13:25 PM  
1 votes:

MaxxLarge: The biggest mystery about this whole thing is that anyone expected American beer to be any good in the first place.


Bell's. And Founders. Both here in MI, both incredible. Hell, Bell's Hopslam is the top rated IPA in the world. So you shut your mouth
2013-03-04 01:11:56 PM  
1 votes:
So the take-away from this is that CNN doesn't understand how beer making works... It's a chemistry project, and there are going to be variations.
2013-03-04 01:08:32 PM  
1 votes:
A-B doesn't add water to their beer. I thought everyone knew that they added horse piss.
 
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