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2013-03-04 11:26:19 AM
The biggest mystery about this whole thing is that anyone expected American beer to be any good in the first place.
 
2013-03-04 11:44:00 AM

MaxxLarge: The biggest mystery about this whole thing is that anyone expected American beer to be any good in the first place.


You watch your whore mouth!
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2013-03-04 11:47:26 AM

MaxxLarge: The biggest mystery about this whole thing is that anyone expected American beer to be any good in the first place.


Well, it is well crafted. It's really really different to make a lager that light consistently over and over again.

It's not my kind of beer but I can be impressed by the effort.
 
2013-03-04 11:49:35 AM

blatz514: You watch your whore mouth!


Dude. I grew UP in Milwaukee. Lived there for 32 years. I get it.

Still, the only instances wherein I could stomach the local product was the two times I took out-of-town friends on the Miller tour, and got the free samples at the end. When their swill is tapped directly from the lines where it's ridiculously fresh, it's actually passable. Other than that, the cloying, skunky, corn-mash sour-sweetness of it is just unpalatable.
 
2013-03-04 11:54:16 AM

MaxxLarge: blatz514: You watch your whore mouth!

Dude. I grew UP in Milwaukee. Lived there for 32 years. I get it.

Still, the only instances wherein I could stomach the local product was the two times I took out-of-town friends on the Miller tour, and got the free samples at the end. When their swill is tapped directly from the lines where it's ridiculously fresh, it's actually passable. Other than that, the cloying, skunky, corn-mash sour-sweetness of it is just unpalatable.


I was just joking.  Blatz was the only shiat I could afford during college and the coming years after.
 
2013-03-04 01:03:16 PM
Beer snob thread!

I'm still in love with Racer 5.  It's too easy to cruise right through a six pack.
 
2013-03-04 01:05:57 PM
Wait! Blatz is real? I thought it was an older version of Duff. It must not be a southern thing, huh.
 
2013-03-04 01:08:14 PM
Who the f*ck cares?
 
2013-03-04 01:08:32 PM
A-B doesn't add water to their beer. I thought everyone knew that they added horse piss.
 
2013-03-04 01:10:07 PM
Budweiser is the best-tasting beer in the world, hands down.
 
2013-03-04 01:10:23 PM
Ah. Truth in advertising.
 
2013-03-04 01:11:30 PM

JackieRabbit: A-B doesn't add water to their beer. I thought everyone knew that they added horse piss.


"...put the Budweiser back in the horse, boys. It's another Guinness for me.."
 
2013-03-04 01:11:56 PM
So the take-away from this is that CNN doesn't understand how beer making works... It's a chemistry project, and there are going to be variations.
 
2013-03-04 01:13:10 PM
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2013-03-04 01:13:25 PM

MaxxLarge: The biggest mystery about this whole thing is that anyone expected American beer to be any good in the first place.


Bell's. And Founders. Both here in MI, both incredible. Hell, Bell's Hopslam is the top rated IPA in the world. So you shut your mouth
 
2013-03-04 01:15:23 PM
Dear A-B could you please stop with the Landslide horse commercial.
 
2013-03-04 01:17:36 PM
Stay thirsty my friends.
 
2013-03-04 01:18:11 PM

MaxxLarge: The biggest mystery about this whole thing is that anyone expected American beer to be any good in the first place.


Not sure if trolling or just stupid.
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2013-03-04 01:20:38 PM

MaxxLarge: The biggest mystery about this whole thing is that anyone expected American beer to be any good in the first place.


+2 post of derping
 
2013-03-04 01:21:05 PM
My brother has been working at that brewery for over 30 years.
Hes told me numerious times about the cost-cutting, the weirdness...
Their beloved Mich Ultra.. Bud Selects, etc... are watered down EXACTLY as the lawsuit describes.  water + extra carbonation = fewer calories... and inexplicably more expensive.

They use about half the beechwood they used to in their 'beechwood aging'.. and they age it for half as long.
Often times if a beer has some problems or irregularities.. it's 'changed'.  Bud can become busch.. busch or even bud light can become natty light, etc... with a few additives.

He's hoping this lawsuit sheds some light on the process...  even though the alcohol content motivation doesn't hold water, in his opinon.

I keep trying to tell him... dude.. no one cares.  People know what they're getting. Thats why there's  a 6 of some kind of IPA or unfiltered wheat in my fridge along with the 30pack of busch light :)
 
2013-03-04 01:23:03 PM

mbillips: Budweiser is the best-tasting beer in the world, hands down.


1/10, someone will bite.
 
2013-03-04 01:23:42 PM

uncleacid: Dear A-B could you please stop with the Landslide horse commercial.


Ditto on the PitBull Bud Light assault on my senses.
 
2013-03-04 01:25:00 PM
According to foodandnutritionmagazine.org,

The typical American beer ranges from 90 percent to 94 percent water and averages 4.6 percent alcohol by volume

Having sex in a canoe?
 
2013-03-04 01:25:54 PM
I don't get why A-B doesn't just own their clients... the low brow red neck trash of the US makes that company billions per year, yet they are constantly trying to reimage themselves, rebrand themselves, discredit claims of low quality, all to try and raise themselves a notch or 2 with the beer snob crowd...

Seriously A-B, and Miller, the two of you should embrace your clientele. Without the wife beaters and the gun freaks, without the 4x4 penis extensions, the cow nuts hanging from the bumpers, without the bleached damaged hair, and beer cozies with stupid slogans, and without nascar, where would you be?

Bankrupt and penniless that's where...

So BE PROUD of your clients american swill companies... and don't let the real craftsmen get you down, while they are perfecting the balance between hops and malt, you can laugh at their attempts all the way to the bank....
 
2013-03-04 01:27:03 PM
People who buy crappy, cheap beer complain that they are drinking crappy, cheap beer, Rick Romero reports.

As a native of St.Louis, I drank the crap beer as a teenager, its some sort of loyalty test. In my old age I have learned the diffrence between real beer and that piss water swill they call beer. Oh what I wouldn't give for a chimay.
 
2013-03-04 01:27:18 PM
When I was younger I drank Budweiser exclusively. I had jackets, hats, posters, a pool stick and varous other things with the Bud logo. It was good at the time and the taste still takes me back to drinking with my father.
 
2013-03-04 01:27:33 PM
A friend once brought a 6 pack of bud light to a party.  As we opened each of the bottles, we realized that there never was and never had been beer in any of them, just very pure and good tasting water.  I was more pleased with that then if there had been beer in the bottles.  Shortly after this we realized we should have kept one capped and tried to get our money back or something, but we had already had many much better tasting beers before that.

/csb
 
2013-03-04 01:28:07 PM

MaxxLarge: blatz514: You watch your whore mouth!

Dude. I grew UP in Milwaukee. Lived there for 32 years. I get it.

Still, the only instances wherein I could stomach the local product was the two times I took out-of-town friends on the Miller tour, and got the free samples at the end. When their swill is tapped directly from the lines where it's ridiculously fresh, it's actually passable. Other than that, the cloying, skunky, corn-mash sour-sweetness of it is just unpalatable.


I generally don't like the mass brewers and I pretty much only drink Bud and what not when it is cold, free and nothing better around.  So I have to say when we toured the brewery in St. Louis (as much for the beer as for the horses) I was very shocked at how much i liked the fresh Bud they served.  If that is what would come out in the bottles or tap, I'd be more inclined to drink it.  I don't know if they choose or make specials batches to the tasting room, but it was good.

Coors in Golden was not a bad tour either.  At the time each adult could get 3 16-oz glasses of their choice of beer.  My FIL and I had ours plus some of the ladies' allowance and then made them drive.  Again, better than what you would normally get in a bar.
 
2013-03-04 01:28:09 PM
Budweiser is just fermented rice with water added.
I know.
I drink at least 6 a day.
 
2013-03-04 01:28:14 PM

adamgreeney: Bell's. And Founders. Both here in MI, both incredible. Hell, Bell's Hopslam is the top rated IPA in the world. So you shut your mouth


StaleCoffee:+2 post of derping

envirovore: Not sure if trolling or just stupid.


F*cking relax. My favorite beer in the world happens to be New Glarus Wisconsin Belgian Red...a.k.a., a stateside craft brew. I mean Big-Beverage MACRObrews, and having some intellectual honesty means you knew that. So can the mock outrage.
 
2013-03-04 01:31:41 PM

mbillips: Budweiser is the best-tasting beer in the world, hands down.


-0/10

it's not even the best tasting-beer in the world, hands up.
 
2013-03-04 01:32:06 PM
I thought everybody knew that Bud doesn't sell watered down beer.  They sell slightly beered up water.
 
2013-03-04 01:32:59 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: MaxxLarge: The biggest mystery about this whole thing is that anyone expected American beer to be any good in the first place.

Well, it is well crafted. It's really really different to make a lager that light consistently over and over again.

It's not my kind of beer but I can be impressed by the effort.


I am, frankly, amazed at how they manage to remove so MUCH of the flavor and character from the likes of Budweiser.

I have tried a few times to brew something as light and tasteless as Bud / Coors, but my beer has always turned out to be far too flavorful and aromatic to be even considered a close match.
 
2013-03-04 01:33:04 PM
As long as I can have my Old Rasputin Imperial Russian Stout, I will cheerfully ignore the sour soda pop that goes by the name of lager in this country.
 
2013-03-04 01:33:59 PM

MaxxLarge: The biggest mystery about this whole thing is that anyone expected   mass produced American beer to be any good in the first place.



 FTFY.
 
2013-03-04 01:34:28 PM

stlbluez: Often times if a beer has some problems or irregularities.. it's 'changed'.  Bud can become busch.. busch or even bud light can become natty light, etc... with a few additives.


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2013-03-04 01:34:51 PM

MaxxLarge: adamgreeney: Bell's. And Founders. Both here in MI, both incredible. Hell, Bell's Hopslam is the top rated IPA in the world. So you shut your mouth

StaleCoffee:+2 post of derping

envirovore: Not sure if trolling or just stupid.

F*cking relax. My favorite beer in the world happens to be New Glarus Wisconsin Belgian Red...a.k.a., a stateside craft brew. I mean Big-Beverage MACRObrews, and having some intellectual honesty means you knew that. So can the mock outrage.


Very nice. You're going to have them on the hook for at least an hour now.
 
2013-03-04 01:35:55 PM

MaxxLarge: blatz514: You watch your whore mouth!

Dude. I grew UP in Milwaukee. Lived there for 32 years. I get it.

Still, the only instances wherein I could stomach the local product was the two times I took out-of-town friends on the Miller tour, and got the free samples at the end. When their swill is tapped directly from the lines where it's ridiculously fresh, it's actually passable. Other than that, the cloying, skunky, corn-mash sour-sweetness of it is just unpalatable.




WI guy huh? You're probably no stranger to yummy New Glarus beers.
 
2013-03-04 01:36:20 PM

MaxxLarge: adamgreeney: Bell's. And Founders. Both here in MI, both incredible. Hell, Bell's Hopslam is the top rated IPA in the world. So you shut your mouth

StaleCoffee:+2 post of derping

envirovore: Not sure if trolling or just stupid.

F*cking relax. My favorite beer in the world happens to be New Glarus Wisconsin Belgian Red...a.k.a., a stateside craft brew. I mean Big-Beverage MACRObrews, and having some intellectual honesty means you knew that. So can the mock outrage.


I'm with you there. I had a friend admit that he liked Coors recently and I'm still debating on if we can remain friends...
 
2013-03-04 01:37:40 PM

Hagenhatesyouall: The Stealth Hippopotamus: MaxxLarge: The biggest mystery about this whole thing is that anyone expected American beer to be any good in the first place.

Well, it is well crafted. It's really really different to make a lager that light consistently over and over again.

It's not my kind of beer but I can be impressed by the effort.

I am, frankly, amazed at how they manage to remove so MUCH of the flavor and character from the likes of Budweiser.

I have tried a few times to brew something as light and tasteless as Bud / Coors, but my beer has always turned out to be far too flavorful and aromatic to be even considered a close match.


Anheuser-Busch lead the world in bioprocess industrial quality control.  Seriously.  They've written books that the medical industry follows.
 
2013-03-04 01:39:45 PM
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Just because.

/I prefer a good Skittlebrau once in a while myself.
 
2013-03-04 01:39:49 PM

blatz514: MaxxLarge: blatz514: You watch your whore mouth!

Dude. I grew UP in Milwaukee. Lived there for 32 years. I get it.

Still, the only instances wherein I could stomach the local product was the two times I took out-of-town friends on the Miller tour, and got the free samples at the end. When their swill is tapped directly from the lines where it's ridiculously fresh, it's actually passable. Other than that, the cloying, skunky, corn-mash sour-sweetness of it is just unpalatable.

I was just joking.  Blatz was the only shiat I could afford during college and the coming years after.


I doubt it, unless you are a lot older than you look over the internet.  Blatz was bought out and shut down in the early 60's.  The name was resurrected for cheap-beer-of-the-week, just like so many other venerable names, but it wasn't real Blatz.
 
2013-03-04 01:40:37 PM

Treygreen13: Very nice. You're going to have them on the hook for at least an hour now


I was trolling with the "intellectual honesty" line, like, 2 summers ago. Pfffffft... (that was me opening a Tennants lager, not making a derisory lip-noise)
 
2013-03-04 01:41:50 PM
They're not watered down like we're thinking, but I have read in my beer magazines that sometimes the big breweries brew concentrated batches then add water after fermentation.  This means they can make more beer in a smaller space.  As someone mentioned above, you have to give them credit for making a consistent product.  It's very hard to make a light lager with no noticeable off flavors.  Now, is it a good tasting beer?  Very few would argue that I think (I'd label it acceptable if you have no other options), but certainly well-made.  I often wonder what "real" Budweiser tasted like a few generations ago before Prohibition and then the light beer craze ruined American beer for decades.  I made a "real" American Pilsner last fall and it was pretty awesome.
 
2013-03-04 01:41:59 PM

stlbluez: My brother has been working at that brewery for over 30 years.
Hes told me numerious times about the cost-cutting, the weirdness...
Their beloved Mich Ultra.. Bud Selects, etc... are watered down EXACTLY as the lawsuit describes.  water + extra carbonation = fewer calories... and inexplicably more expensive.

They use about half the beechwood they used to in their 'beechwood aging'.. and they age it for half as long.
Often times if a beer has some problems or irregularities.. it's 'changed'.  Bud can become busch.. busch or even bud light can become natty light, etc... with a few additives.

He's hoping this lawsuit sheds some light on the process...  even though the alcohol content motivation doesn't hold water, in his opinon.

I keep trying to tell him... dude.. no one cares.  People know what they're getting. Thats why there's  a 6 of some kind of IPA or unfiltered wheat in my fridge along with the 30pack of busch light :)


I just don't get why people are so adamant about how awful Budweiser is when beer works the same way pretty much all food works. You can pay more and go to the farmers market and get apples that taste good, or you can pay $1/lb for bright red, long shelf life apples that taste horrible. Things get even worse the more processed the food is. Manufacturers want to make money- you can make money by 1. selling more, 2. selling for more $, or 3. by cutting your costs. The big successful guys do the first and the last, local farmers or small manufacturers have to do #2.

/I would rather buy 6 good tasting beers than 24 not good tasting beers, but I am a lightweight midget who drinks like 2 beers a week.
 
2013-03-04 01:42:49 PM

MaxxLarge: The biggest mystery about this whole thing is that anyone expected American beer to be any good in the first place.


Sam Adams would like a word
 
2013-03-04 01:43:02 PM
I must snob this thread up a little bit. Just had this the other night. Awesome sauce. Great IPA, not too strong and great taste.

Btw I'm sure A-B owns some great little beer companies, but their high volume stuff is indeed piss.

i-cdn.apartmenttherapy.com
 
2013-03-04 01:43:48 PM
Slam down a couple of these and you won't notice a lack of taste - in the beer or yourself
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Bf+
2013-03-04 01:43:54 PM
CSB time...
I was waiting (drinking) at an airport bar between flights.  A guy sits down at the bar and orders a bud light.  The bartender explains they don't have that particular beer.  The guy replies, "just give me whatever is closest."  The bartender, wearing the largest of grins, serves him a glass of water.  Everyone at the bar bursts into laughter... except the one guy.  He was not so pleased.  Which kinda made it funnier.
 
2013-03-04 01:44:02 PM

uttertosh: Treygreen13: Very nice. You're going to have them on the hook for at least an hour now

I was trolling with the "intellectual honesty" line, like, 2 summers ago. Pfffffft... (that was me opening a Tennants lager, not making a derisory lip-noise)


Tennants? I've got a buddy trying to get his hands on some of that. I've never been able to find it in the states though.
 
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