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(TMZ)   Someone is suing the Wachowski Siblings, claiming they stole his movie script to make the Matrix 2 & 3, which makes the first time anyone has wanted credit for the sequels   (tmz.com) divider line 73
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2013-03-04 11:25:52 AM
I never bothered with the third. Is it worth a rental?
 
2013-03-04 11:26:56 AM

Jakamo: I never bothered with the third. Is it worth a rental?


Only worth if it when staying at a hotel and TBS is the only channel that comes in.
 
2013-03-04 11:33:03 AM
I thought someone else already claimed that the matrix trilogy was lifted from their work

it was a lady, and i'm too damn lazy to google it
 
2013-03-04 11:33:53 AM

loonatic112358: I thought someone else already claimed that the matrix trilogy was lifted from their work

it was a lady, and i'm too damn lazy to google it


upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-03-04 11:34:25 AM
I would take credit for the second, then blame the studio or whatever for the third.

/I still watch Reloaded for an action fix
 
2013-03-04 11:35:51 AM
I understand and acknowledge all the flaws of the 2nd and 3rd movies. Yet I love them and watch it all the time, warts and all.
 
2013-03-04 11:37:44 AM

Jakamo: I never bothered with the third. Is it worth a rental?


there's a rifftrack for it, so maybe?

/bad movie was bad
 
2013-03-04 11:39:50 AM
I like the first two Matrix movies, the third one not so much, I think because it is so negative and almost everyone dies in it. The fight scenes in the 2nd one were a lot of fun to watch though.

/still wonder how Neo kills the werewolf in the fight at the Maravingian's house
//Penelope says it takes silver to kill them
///of course
 
2013-03-04 11:40:11 AM
Dark City was a great film in it's own right. I don't think it has much similarity to the Matrix films.
 
2013-03-04 11:40:47 AM
media.animevice.com
 
2013-03-04 11:42:16 AM
That was kind of a lame article from the Onion. You know, though, that's not a bad idea. The Matrix was a really good movie. They totally should have made a sequel or two to it.
 
2013-03-04 11:42:37 AM
i.imgur.com

What a human Jar Jar Binks might look like.
 
2013-03-04 11:44:24 AM
The only Matrix sequel I acknowledge is "The AniMatrix".
 
2013-03-04 11:45:27 AM
Speed Racer was just awful.
 
2013-03-04 11:51:37 AM

theurge14: [i.imgur.com image 500x282]

What a human Jar Jar Binks might look like.


I'm going to skid right past the implications here and point out that the annoying little Neo-worshipper skater kid is far more jar jar than Mr. Walt!  WALT.  WAAAAAAAAAALT, who is quite a solid actor when not screaming for his television son.
 
2013-03-04 11:52:58 AM
Ha, Reloaded was on TV last night. Still a guilty pleasure. I had forgotten about the part where Neo uses his power in the real world. What's the deal? Is it pretty much decided that they're all in a Matrix within a Matrix?
 
2013-03-04 11:53:23 AM

KhamanV: I'm going to skid right past the implications here and point out that the annoying little Neo-worshipper skater kid is far more jar jar than Mr. Walt! WALT. WAAAAAAAAAALT, who is quite a solid actor when not screaming for his television son.


Please tell me I am not the only one who was cheering for him to die
 
2013-03-04 11:53:47 AM

skinink: The only Matrix sequel I acknowledge is "The AniMatrix".


come on

/not saying RT is the end all be all, but give some credit where credit is due.
 
2013-03-04 11:55:40 AM

Decillion: Ha, Reloaded was on TV last night. Still a guilty pleasure. I had forgotten about the part where Neo uses his power in the real world. What's the deal? Is it pretty much decided that they're all in a Matrix within a Matrix?


hmph.  No.  But that's what everybody (myself included) wanted in the third.  It would have made a shiat tonne more sense, but maybe that would infringe on the 13th floor territory.
 
2013-03-04 11:59:26 AM
This site is a great read to understand the matrix movies a bit better.

http://thematrix101.com/
 
2013-03-04 11:59:55 AM
What a dumb-ass.
 
2013-03-04 12:00:18 PM

Jakamo: I never bothered with the third. Is it worth a rental?


Yes, provided you had a generally positive impression of Reloaded.  Though I'm in the minority that doesn't think that 2 and 3 were anywhere near as bad as the internet mass makes them out to be.  Don't mistake me - they're not good movies.  Especially compared to the first one.  But they're visually a lot of fun, and they tell a enjoyable - if incomplete and predictable - story.  They were never going to be able to deliver after The Matrix, so they went for style over substance.  On that, the movies did deliver.  I'd give The Matrix a solid "A", but the sequels a "C+" when taken together.  And almost all of that comes from cinematography, effects, mood, and set design.  The acting is decent.  Storytelling and plot are tertiary considerations.

Most give the sequels and "F" because of their sharp contrast in storytelling and plot compared to the original.
 
2013-03-04 12:02:12 PM

Jakamo: I never bothered with the third. Is it worth a rental?


No.  You'll be much, much happier if you just think up your own ending to the series.

/if there is no spoon, then why is there soup?
 
2013-03-04 12:02:48 PM
The matrix is the best movie ever. Second one was pretty good. Third one was meh
 
2013-03-04 12:03:27 PM
Meh, they are an OK watch. I watched 3 the other day for the first time since the theatre and didn't hate it nearly as much.
 
2013-03-04 12:24:46 PM

Valacirca: [media.animevice.com image 300x381]


I don't recall transforming motorcycles in the matrix
 
2013-03-04 12:24:56 PM
One thing always bothered me about the first Matrix: if it's such a horrible experience to be 'woken up' a la Neo getting flushed into the bowels of the human battery vineyards (for lack of a better term), then wouldn't it be better for all humans to live the lie of the virtual world in the first place?  In a way, aren't the AI the heroes for giving humans an actual life in a virtual world? Why try to smash it? So what if I'm a battery?  I'm pretty much a cog in real life anyway.

Speaking for myself, if I had a choice between a virtual world in which there's Fark, sunsets and Kate Upton and a world featuring a scorched sky and where mountain goats have a hard time getting along, I'd choose the former.
 
2013-03-04 12:27:47 PM

Wadded Beef: Speaking for myself, if I had a choice between a virtual world in which there's Fark, sunsets and Kate Upton and a world featuring a scorched sky and where mountain goats have a hard time getting along, I'd choose the former.


That was the philosophical question that was the underpinning of the original film, with intent to expand on that in the later movies. If you truly don't know, then what harm is there or rather at what cost would you pay to truly be free?

But then they started down that wishy washy rabbit hole of dime store psychology and philosophical musings one does after psych class and a few too many bong hits.
 
2013-03-04 12:28:22 PM
For the last time guys, there is no third matrix movie (as of yet).

The first movie, the matrix is sort of its own, but if you look deeper into it, many question remained unanswered.

The second movie (which as two parts), ties many loose ends, and basically makes one long story.

The first one is an epic gem, no one will argue that, but the second one is not bad by any means. A lack of understanding may be the reason why many people think that way.

If you like sci-fi or geeky movies and still don't like second matrix, watch it again (may be all 3 in a sequence) and you will probably change your mind.
 
2013-03-04 12:28:32 PM
Both "Matrix" sequels are terrible, and retroactively ruined the first movie. They're that bad.

Even the awful "Star Wars" prequels didn't quite succeed in ruining the original trilogy.
 
2013-03-04 12:34:01 PM

Wadded Beef: One thing always bothered me about the first Matrix: if it's such a horrible experience to be 'woken up' a la Neo getting flushed into the bowels of the human battery vineyards (for lack of a better term), then wouldn't it be better for all humans to live the lie of the virtual world in the first place?  In a way, aren't the AI the heroes for giving humans an actual life in a virtual world? Why try to smash it? So what if I'm a battery?  I'm pretty much a cog in real life anyway.

Speaking for myself, if I had a choice between a virtual world in which there's Fark, sunsets and Kate Upton and a world featuring a scorched sky and where mountain goats have a hard time getting along, I'd choose the former.


You missed the part where some people kept waking up, no matter what. With the improvement of the matrix, the number kept going down, but some people kept thinking that something is wrong with the world (neo being one of them) and that it is not the real world.
 
2013-03-04 12:34:20 PM
Reloaded was good if you evaluate it as just a pure action movie. In terms of action it was highly entertaining. Revo was abysmal on all counts, just awful.
 
2013-03-04 12:34:29 PM

Jakamo: I never bothered with the third. Is it worth a rental?


If I had made that movie, I'd want to chop off my penis too.
 
2013-03-04 12:36:24 PM
imgs.xkcd.com
 
2013-03-04 12:38:24 PM

realmolo: Both "Matrix" sequels are terrible, and retroactively ruined the first movie. They're that bad.

Even the awful "Star Wars" prequels didn't quite succeed in ruining the original trilogy.


Ya, it's strange that The Matrix isn't really a 'thing' anymore. Seemed poised to become a presence in the 'geek canon' so to speak. Maybe not at the level of Star Wars, Star Trek, or LOTR but definitely more than an MMO and then.... not much.  Where are the Matrix novels, lunchboxes, or Matrix the Next Generation TV shows?
 
2013-03-04 12:39:02 PM
What the heck guys? How could you evaluate first half vs the second half of a movie?

Reloaded and Revolution has to be good/bad together. Theoretically, you cannot say one is good and other is bad.

Did you miss the "To Be Concluded..." at the end of Reloaded instead of the usual "The End.."?

/It really bothers me.
 
2013-03-04 12:41:35 PM

mayIFark: Did you miss the "To Be Concluded..." at the end of Reloaded instead of the usual "The End.."?


The Doc is alive!
 
2013-03-04 12:41:40 PM

Jakamo: I never bothered with the third. Is it worth a rental?


No. I watched maybe 15 minutes of it on Netflix and turned it off. It's just plain bad while Matrix 2 was at least watchable.
 
2013-03-04 12:45:11 PM
Also, I just got around to watching the Futurama episode where they rip apart the basic premise of the Matrix movies last night, so I'm really getting a kick out of these replies.

/damn tearjerker endings...
 
2013-03-04 12:45:28 PM

Decillion: Ha, Reloaded was on TV last night. Still a guilty pleasure. I had forgotten about the part where Neo uses his power in the real world. What's the deal? Is it pretty much decided that they're all in a Matrix within a Matrix?


It solves a lot of problems, like Neo having what appear to be supernatural powers in the Zion world.


Bendal: /still wonder how Neo kills the werewolf in the fight at the Maravingian's house


She says they are "notoriously difficult to kill".  Silver bullets are one way, but not the only one.
 
2013-03-04 12:47:01 PM

Wadded Beef: One thing always bothered me about the first Matrix: if it's such a horrible experience to be 'woken up' a la Neo getting flushed into the bowels of the human battery vineyards (for lack of a better term), then wouldn't it be better for all humans to live the lie of the virtual world in the first place?  In a way, aren't the AI the heroes for giving humans an actual life in a virtual world? Why try to smash it? So what if I'm a battery?  I'm pretty much a cog in real life anyway.

Speaking for myself, if I had a choice between a virtual world in which there's Fark, sunsets and Kate Upton and a world featuring a scorched sky and where mountain goats have a hard time getting along, I'd choose the former.


Why does that bother you?  That's the entire Cypher conundrum that was the crux of the first movie.  Some people want to live a happy life - low pain, high pleasure.  Some want to live a true life, even if that includes the harsh reality like that outside of the Matrix.  They live under a requirement that they see things as they are, and not delude themselves.  Now, as is made clear in the Architect discussion in Reloaded, over 99% of the people in the matrix accept the virtual world, and make the choice to live out their existence there - the happy life.  The few remaining who require a "true" life fight it.  As more of them are freed, Zion become stronger, and eventually the machines have to exterminate them and start over before they become too powerful.
 
2013-03-04 12:47:42 PM

mayIFark: Wadded Beef: One thing always bothered me about the first Matrix: if it's such a horrible experience to be 'woken up' a la Neo getting flushed into the bowels of the human battery vineyards (for lack of a better term), then wouldn't it be better for all humans to live the lie of the virtual world in the first place?  In a way, aren't the AI the heroes for giving humans an actual life in a virtual world? Why try to smash it? So what if I'm a battery?  I'm pretty much a cog in real life anyway.

Speaking for myself, if I had a choice between a virtual world in which there's Fark, sunsets and Kate Upton and a world featuring a scorched sky and where mountain goats have a hard time getting along, I'd choose the former.

You missed the part where some people kept waking up, no matter what. With the improvement of the matrix, the number kept going down, but some people kept thinking that something is wrong with the world (neo being one of them) and that it is not the real world.


I remember that part but, with that in mind, could these Neo anomalies be considered enemies to the human condition by threating to smash the virtual world?
 
2013-03-04 12:55:55 PM

Wadded Beef: mayIFark: Wadded Beef: One thing always bothered me about the first Matrix: if it's such a horrible experience to be 'woken up' a la Neo getting flushed into the bowels of the human battery vineyards (for lack of a better term), then wouldn't it be better for all humans to live the lie of the virtual world in the first place?  In a way, aren't the AI the heroes for giving humans an actual life in a virtual world? Why try to smash it? So what if I'm a battery?  I'm pretty much a cog in real life anyway.

Speaking for myself, if I had a choice between a virtual world in which there's Fark, sunsets and Kate Upton and a world featuring a scorched sky and where mountain goats have a hard time getting along, I'd choose the former.

You missed the part where some people kept waking up, no matter what. With the improvement of the matrix, the number kept going down, but some people kept thinking that something is wrong with the world (neo being one of them) and that it is not the real world.

I remember that part but, with that in mind, could these Neo anomalies be considered enemies to the human condition by threating to smash the virtual world?


It would be, if you consider the virtual world to be the "new normal" and physical world to be abnormal. In our brain, we are not used to thinking like that.

So, say 300 years from now, if human are actually in a matrix for 200 years (so they are used to it) and one of them decides to make a movie for the audience who are hooked to the matrix, Neo would be considered a villain.

/hmm....
 
2013-03-04 01:03:59 PM

mayIFark: Wadded Beef: mayIFark: Wadded Beef: One thing always bothered me about the first Matrix: if it's such a horrible experience to be 'woken up' a la Neo getting flushed into the bowels of the human battery vineyards (for lack of a better term), then wouldn't it be better for all humans to live the lie of the virtual world in the first place?  In a way, aren't the AI the heroes for giving humans an actual life in a virtual world? Why try to smash it? So what if I'm a battery?  I'm pretty much a cog in real life anyway.

Speaking for myself, if I had a choice between a virtual world in which there's Fark, sunsets and Kate Upton and a world featuring a scorched sky and where mountain goats have a hard time getting along, I'd choose the former.

You missed the part where some people kept waking up, no matter what. With the improvement of the matrix, the number kept going down, but some people kept thinking that something is wrong with the world (neo being one of them) and that it is not the real world.

I remember that part but, with that in mind, could these Neo anomalies be considered enemies to the human condition by threating to smash the virtual world?

It would be, if you consider the virtual world to be the "new normal" and physical world to be abnormal. In our brain, we are not used to thinking like that.

So, say 300 years from now, if human are actually in a matrix for 200 years (so they are used to it) and one of them decides to make a movie for the audience who are hooked to the matrix, Neo would be considered a villain.

/hmm....


I will now avoid all red pills, despite whatever illness.
 
2013-03-04 01:05:13 PM
It's been so long since I watched II and III that I don't really remember all that much about them other than after the second one I left the theatre thinking: "Well that left me with an empty feeling, but as long as the next one ties everything together I'm ok with it" and once I saw the third one I just got annoyed at all the "you're the one" talk.

That and they had a really hot Italian chick in the second one.
 
2013-03-04 01:05:13 PM

mayIFark: Wadded Beef: mayIFark:

So, say 300 years from now, if human are actually in a matrix for 200 years (so they are used to it) and one of them decides to make a movie for the audience who are hooked to the matrix, Neo would be considered a villain.

/hmm....


Good point, and even further, Neo may already be a villain to his fellow batteries. If the Agents can't hide his activities and the citizens wonder why things are always blowing up, they have to portray Neo as a terrorist in the media. Plus he's already killing real people left and right. Agent anchorpersons just have to play the security footage. What if that security guard was your brother?
 
2013-03-04 01:15:59 PM

Wadded Beef: I remember that part but, with that in mind, could these Neo anomalies be considered enemies to the human condition by threating to smash the virtual world?


No, he is part of the "reset" switch, which is the only way previously the machines can get the Matrix to work, so if you think the Matrix is good, then the Neo anomalies are part of the process of keeping the Matrix working stably - up until the current incarnation that goes the other route anyway.
 
2013-03-04 01:18:35 PM
Neo as the Villain doesn't work because he preserved the Matrix and the remaining humans.  He's everyone's friend.

yay
 
2013-03-04 01:19:01 PM
I like all three. Of course the first movie is far and away a better film, in every way...but I really don't get the hate for the sequels. The trilogy in toto is a fantastic experience.

Also, in terms of TFA, the Siblings ripped off of dozens, if not hundreds of authors, thinkers, movies, shows, and ideas from around the world. They also fit all those ideas together into a visually stunning and (I think) wonderfully coherent whole. This dude just wants a payday.
 
2013-03-04 01:21:57 PM

Khellendros: Speaking for myself, if I had a choice between a virtual world in which there's Fark, sunsets and Kate Upton and a world featuring a scorched sky and where mountain goats have a hard time getting along, I'd choose the former.

Why does that bother you?  That's the entire Cypher conundrum that was the crux of the first movie.  Some people want to live a happy life - low pain, high pleasure.  Some want to live a true life, even if that includes the harsh reality like that outside of the Matrix.  They live under a requirement that they see things as they are, and not delude themselves.  Now, as is made clear in the Architect discussion in Reloaded, over 99% of the people in the matrix accept the virtual world, and make the choice to live out their existence there - the happy life.  The few remaining who require a "true" life fight it.  As more of them are freed, Zion become stronger, and eventually the machines have to exterminate them and start over before they become too powerful.


Khellendros: Speaking for myself, if I had a choice between a virtual world in which there's Fark, sunsets and Kate Upton and a world featuring a scorched sky and where mountain goats have a hard time getting along, I'd choose the former.


...and don't forget there are "natural-borns" like Tank and Apoc, who can't enter the Matrix at all.
 
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