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2013-03-04 08:22:47 AM
So long as my tax dollars are being spent wisely, that's the important thing.
 
2013-03-04 08:27:04 AM
Somehow the recipients are to blame for this and not the wildly incompetent  FIS.
 
2013-03-04 08:45:49 AM
They do not.  They use it for staples, and only until they get back on their feet.  You shut up, meany!
 
2013-03-04 08:46:16 AM

Because People in power are Stupid: Somehow the recipients are to blame for this and not the wildly incompetent  FIS.


Yea if I found out I could use it to buy guns, booze and porn then I'd go buck wild.
 
2013-03-04 08:47:23 AM
wtf ? in oregon i see people ring up a whole cart and then pay what they can on card and the beer and smokes in cash. why the hell are these idiots not capable ? ounds like bribes to keep the money flowing from taxpayers to businesses
 
2013-03-04 08:47:24 AM
Anyone who uses this example to criticize the EBT system is a brainwashed GOP shill who wants to make the poor start to death and have the rest of us vote Republican.
 
2013-03-04 08:47:26 AM
I had a freind that paid his rent in food stamp purchases. He was a single man getting stamps for a family of 4. Not a deadbeat, just a clerical error.
 
2013-03-04 08:48:05 AM
This headline: people use EBT to buy guns, porn, and booze

This article: welfare chief says that his incompetence  may allow peopleto buy guns, porn, and booze with EBT due to a failure in implementing oversights (loophole)

This thread: full derp in three comments, nobody having read the article
 
2013-03-04 08:48:28 AM
WTF is EBT?
 
2013-03-04 08:48:31 AM

Tat'dGreaser: Because People in power are Stupid: Somehow the recipients are to blame for this and not the wildly incompetent  FIS.

Yea if I found out I could use it to buy guns, booze and porn then I'd go buck wild.


But why not guns? They can use them to fish.
 
2013-03-04 08:50:32 AM

mike_d85: I had a freind that paid his rent in food stamp purchases. He was a single man getting stamps for a family of 4. Not a deadbeat, just a clerical error thief.


Word.
 
2013-03-04 08:50:53 AM

Because People in power are Stupid: Somehow the recipients are to blame for this and not the wildly incompetent  FIS.


Well, when the actual cards themselves start spending the money, then you can blame the FIS.  Until then, yes - blame the recipients.  They received a subsidy meant for one thing and are spending it on other stuff.
 
2013-03-04 08:51:33 AM
EBT is "Electronic Benefits Transfer" card. Who knew you could get electronics as a benefit?
 
2013-03-04 08:52:14 AM

Happy Hours: WTF is EBT?


Electronic Benefits Transfer.

food stamps on a card.
 
2013-03-04 08:54:28 AM
The government wants to give them consequence free money, that is what people are going to do. They just want a hand out and will find any loophole they can to exploit it. None of this is new though. This information gets passed down from welfare mom to child and on and on. They know how to buck the system before they can speak.
 
2013-03-04 08:57:25 AM

The Muthaship: They do not.  They use it for staples, and only until they get back on their feet.  You shut up, meany!


Even if you are correct, office supplies are not a product intended to be purchased using government assistance.
 
2013-03-04 08:57:53 AM

Happy Hours: WTF is EBT?


Don't bother reading the article, it doesn't explain that.
 
2013-03-04 08:58:22 AM
See, this is why we should help nobody, ever.
 
2013-03-04 08:58:35 AM
Yes because god forbid someone have a small bit of pleasure to distract them from the horrific poverty they suffer
 
2013-03-04 08:59:18 AM
We obviously need to stop helping poor people and raise their taxes instead.  That'll teach them.
 
2013-03-04 08:59:56 AM
"Anyone who uses this example to criticize the EBT system is a brainwashed GOP shill who wants to make the poor start to death and have the rest of us vote Republican."

0/10.
 
2013-03-04 09:00:20 AM

ronaprhys: Because People in power are Stupid: Somehow the recipients are to blame for this and not the wildly incompetent  FIS.

Well, when the actual cards themselves start spending the money, then you can blame the FIS.  Until then, yes - blame the recipients.  They received a subsidy meant for one thing and are spending it on other stuff.


Except that there should be a system in place so that the cards can't be used to buy something like liquor.

But I've worked with FIS. They are incompetent and that is being nice.
 
2013-03-04 09:01:31 AM
Does NS stand for not a situation?

-Billco
This is when you get mad at government wasting money?
 
2013-03-04 09:07:21 AM
People use EBT to buy guns, porn, booze. Paging Dr. N.S. Sherlock

There's your problem right there.
 
2013-03-04 09:09:02 AM

Raider_dad: Happy Hours: WTF is EBT?

Electronic Benefits Transfer.

food stamps on a card.


Thanks - I had an idea it was welfare. I just didn't know the acronym.

So they've cured Sickle Cell Anemia? (yeah, bad racist joke is bad - and racist)

And I don't know if welfare actually OFFICIALLY pays for the stuff mentioned in the headline, but I learned a lesson the first time I loaned a few bucks to a neighbor when I was in college. The loan was to buy booze. He wanted to pay me and my roommate back with food stamps. We refused, but apparently it is currency among some people.
 
2013-03-04 09:12:12 AM

Dimensio: The Muthaship: They do not.  They use it for staples, and only until they get back on their feet.  You shut up, meany!

Even if you are correct, office supplies are not a product intended to be purchased using government assistance.


So now you are anti-capitalism?  You people are never happy....
 
2013-03-04 09:14:41 AM
It's free, swipe your EBT!
 
2013-03-04 09:15:25 AM
Government assistance should require implantable or injectable birth control.

I have no problem supporting someone who is incapable of supporting themselves, cradle to grave. I have many problems with allowing people who can't support themselves to procreate.
 
2013-03-04 09:17:21 AM
Entitlements.
How the fark do they work?
 
2013-03-04 09:18:52 AM

Because People in power are Stupid: Except that there should be a system in place so that the cards can't be used to buy something like liquor.



There is in every other state. What the fark is Massachusetts problem? The abuse of the cash portion of the card will never go away.
 
2013-03-04 09:19:18 AM
Also the hottest, newest smartphones.

Nothing cheers my day more than an EBT wielding, demanding, obnoxious mother-of-five using her freshly "did" nails to pry said EBT card from her cash-fat wallet because she's "tired of all my girlfriends telling me I need a new phone, ya heard me?"

Oh, and said women come in all sorts of colors.
 
2013-03-04 09:19:29 AM
People buy porn?
 
2013-03-04 09:20:50 AM

spickus: Because People in power are Stupid: Except that there should be a system in place so that the cards can't be used to buy something like liquor.


There is in every other state. What the fark is Massachusetts problem? The abuse of the cash portion of the card will never go away.


in Oregon, there is no cash access unless one is over the retirement age.  solved.

/still trade groceries for $50-$100 cash to  my unemployed friends about every other month
 
2013-03-04 09:20:54 AM
Type I vs Type II errors. Are you more concerned with some people buying porn with EBT or with children going hungry without EBT?

Anyway, if they're buying guns with the money, I'm a little surprised our Second Amendment Brigade isn't wildly cheering this government subsidy of a basic human right.
 
2013-03-04 09:26:12 AM

machodonkeywrestler: Does NS stand for not a situation?

-Billco
This is when you get mad at government wasting money?


I am not happy with the government for all the ways they waste my tax dollars.  That includes any number of things that conservatives support as well as the things that liberals choose to waste money on.  This is but one example of our out of control government not properly supervising our money.

Are you OK with this?
 
2013-03-04 09:27:48 AM

SploogeTime: "Anyone who uses this example to criticize the EBT system is a brainwashed GOP shill who wants to make the poor start to death and have the rest of us vote Republican."

0/10.


speaking of brainwashed....
 
2013-03-04 09:29:57 AM

MCStymie: It's free, swipe your EBT


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzspsovNvII [explicit!]
 
2013-03-04 09:31:11 AM

Mimic_Octopus:  In Oregon, there is no cash access unless one is over the retirement age.  solved.

Some welfare benefits such as TANF are deposited directly onto EBT cards for cash withdrawal. These benefits aren't going to retirement age people.  Oregon does this too.

Mimic_Octopus: still trade groceries for $50-$100 cash to  my unemployed friends about every other month


This has gone on since the start of the program and will likely never stop. Perhaps your benefits are too generous.
 
2013-03-04 09:31:20 AM
and yall keep voting Democrat...
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2013-03-04 09:32:12 AM

m053486: Oh, and said women come in all sorts of colors.


But mostly in only one size.
 
2013-03-04 09:32:26 AM
One of my co-workers told me about using someone's EBT card once. She paid the person half the value of the balance on the card, in cash. Then she went to a discount grocery place and stocked up in meats and lots of non-perishable stuff.

I'm sure that's illegal as all hell, but I don't blame her for doing it.
 
2013-03-04 09:32:31 AM
The agency also claimed that a system that can discriminate between items doesn't exist.

Absolute nonsense, as is most of the article. As someone who has EBT and lives in NJ, every grocery store I've been to knows exactly what is and isn't purchasable with foodstamps. If I have some groceries and say things like mouth wash and soap, it all goes as one purchase, I swipe EBT, EBT pays for all the food stuff and specifically not the things that aren't food, and I can pay with any of the other standard means (cash, credit, debit) for the non food items. No human makes the call, the system knows what is and isn't purchasable.

As someone who actually uses this program, nothing in this article actually meshes with my experience. But maybe NJ is the one state where it's working as intended?

/My anecdote IS DATA
//Pose in threatening poor person posture
 
2013-03-04 09:33:24 AM
In MN it is food only, starting in July they will only be able to use them within the state because people are taking them to other states to make the unauthorized purchases.  There is also a push to exclude a lot of crap food like cola.
 
2013-03-04 09:33:26 AM

Because People in power are Stupid: Tat'dGreaser: Because People in power are Stupid: Somehow the recipients are to blame for this and not the wildly incompetent  FIS.

Yea if I found out I could use it to buy guns, booze and porn then I'd go buck wild.

But why not guns? They can use them to fish.



Guns for fishing? Too much work. That's what the dynamite is for.
 
2013-03-04 09:33:50 AM

m053486: Oh, and said women come in all sorts of colors Cadillacs.


FTFY.  We all know what you meant.
 
2013-03-04 09:36:24 AM
And this is why the USA is circling the drain, in debt up to its eyebrows. When you buy votes with EBT, you get corruption at every level and an intractable debt problem.

Liberalism is a mental disorder caused by self-pity.
 
2013-03-04 09:37:08 AM
It's still a lot better than it used to be.  In the days of paper food stamps exchanging them for drugs, booze and BJs was rampant.
 
2013-03-04 09:37:09 AM

MyKingdomForYourHorse: Yes because god forbid someone have a small bit of pleasure to distract them from the horrific poverty they suffer


A gun is a "small bit of pleasure?"

Also, if they are wasting money on guns, booze and porn then they are not spending it on things they claim they need like food. If my fridge is empty and I have ten dollars on my card, I am not spending it on porn or booze. I am buying food.

There are people who use EBT for exactly what it is intended for but there's always some people who if they think they can cheat the system they will. Doesn't it matter if they are poor or rich. The streak of immorality sees no class boundaries.
 
2013-03-04 09:38:41 AM

Fukuzawa: it all goes as one purchase, I swipe EBT, EBT pays for all the food stuff and specifically not the things that aren't food, and I can pay with any of the other standard means



That's how it works everywhere but Massachusetts.
 
2013-03-04 09:38:50 AM

sodomizer: Liberalism is a mental disorder caused by self-pity.


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