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(Fox News)   So it's the Monday after sequester...what happened to all the doom, gloom, mayhem, and despair predicted by the White House? White House: Um, yeah, we might have been exaggerating a little. Still the Republicans' fault, though   (foxnews.com) divider line 261
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MFK
2013-03-04 08:02:47 AM
STFU Fox News.
 
2013-03-04 08:04:54 AM
"Nobody ever suggested that this ... was going to have all its impact in the first few days," he told "NBC's "Meet the Press." "It is a slow grind."

Pretty much this. Even with all the doom-and-gloom, it should be somewhat obvious to anyone with intelligence that it wasn't going to happen overnight.  Same way if you lose your job, even if you have no savings, you don't find yourself in a box on the street corner the very next morning.
 
2013-03-04 08:05:03 AM
Bullshiat mountain just got a little bit taller.
 
2013-03-04 08:06:18 AM
Relax, subby.  Teapartygeddon just takes a while to build up steam.
 
2013-03-04 08:09:00 AM

Smirky the Wonder Chimp: Relax, subby.  Teapartygeddon just takes a while to build up steam.


I'm giving it 15 days until, "No one saw this disaster coming!"
 
2013-03-04 08:10:47 AM
Yup, let's see where we are come late fall when most of the cuts are actually in place.
 
2013-03-04 08:12:07 AM
So Uncle Sam goes into the hospital and asks Paul Krugman what's wrong with him. Krugman says "You have a fecalith lodged in your legislative system and severe media fatigue."

Uncle Sam wipes the sweat from his forehead and says "Well, at least I don't have a fecalith lodged in my legislative system."
 
2013-03-04 08:12:41 AM
I learned this weekend that the president played Golf with Tiger Woods so the problems are non-existent. These are the types on insights you can only gain from watching FoxNews.
 
2013-03-04 08:12:58 AM

Wyalt Derp: Bullshiat mountain just got a little bit taller.


I am so, so glad John Stewart introduced that nickname.
 
2013-03-04 08:13:58 AM
What happened to those released illegal aliens? That was because of the budget, right? Or was that also political posturing?

Both sides are babies.

Austerity. Let's call it was it is.
 
2013-03-04 08:14:33 AM
Seriously?  Before the start of business on Day 2?

Here, let me light the curtains with a match.  What, the entire house hasn't burned down in the first few seconds?  Must be safe, then!  Take that, firehaters!!

This comes from the people who declared that Obama "own" the economic failures and the recession in his first month or two in office, and anyone who blames whatsisname Texas Guy for anything that happened in the 8 years prior is just scapegoating.
 
2013-03-04 08:15:19 AM

Yakk: I learned this weekend that the president played Golf with Tiger Woods so the problems are non-existent. These are the types on insights you can only gain from watching FoxNews.


Kind of like years ago when they saw people in a shopping mall before Xmas, therefore "no recession".
 
2013-03-04 08:16:38 AM

lordjupiter: Yakk: I learned this weekend that the president played Golf with Tiger Woods so the problems are non-existent. These are the types on insights you can only gain from watching FoxNews.

Kind of like years ago when they saw people in a shopping mall before Xmas, therefore "no recession".


Or, "It snowed a lot, so no global warming."
 
2013-03-04 08:16:43 AM
For a glimpse of the future, let's check in with Greece.  Things are totally awesome there, right?
 
2013-03-04 08:18:35 AM

MusicMakeMyHeadPound: Smirky the Wonder Chimp: Relax, subby.  Teapartygeddon just takes a while to build up steam.

I'm giving it 15 days until, "No one saw this disaster coming!"


More like 30. Soon as the furlough notices appear.
 
2013-03-04 08:18:51 AM

GoodyearPimp: For a glimpse of the future, let's check in with Greece.  Things are totally awesome there, right?


If we keep our current borrow and spend policy as is, we will look like Greece once our bond yields go up a bit.
 
2013-03-04 08:23:01 AM
Do you have the mental capacities and reasoning skills of a 5 year old?

Then FOX News is the place for you!
 
2013-03-04 08:25:38 AM

MattStafford: GoodyearPimp: For a glimpse of the future, let's check in with Greece.  Things are totally awesome there, right?

If we keep our current borrow and spend policy as is, we will look like Greece once our bond yields go up a bit.


Bond yields are the new coconut economy.
 
2013-03-04 08:26:29 AM
Also, don't forget, there is the end of the Continuing Budget Resolution at the end of March. So in a Month we could have a full government shutdown.
 
2013-03-04 08:27:13 AM

MindStalker: Also, don't forget, there is the end of the Continuing Budget Resolution at the end of March. So in a Month we could have a full government shutdown.


Which worked out so well for Republicans the last time it occurred.

Special popcorn. I'm buying some.
 
2013-03-04 08:27:52 AM

MattStafford: GoodyearPimp: For a glimpse of the future, let's check in with Greece.  Things are totally awesome there, right?

If we keep our current borrow and spend policy as is, we will look like Greece once our bond yields go up a bit.


But it will get us through a few more election cycles.

Just read that the OMB is projecting the highest US revenue ever for 2013, so obviously our debt problem is a result of not taxing enough.

Nancy, Harry and Barry. Can't make this shiate up.
 
2013-03-04 08:28:10 AM
Furloughs haven't started yet.  Wait until the 800,000 federal employees get that 20% pay cut which will then get passed on to all the local businesses that they won't be spending money at anymore.
 
2013-03-04 08:29:59 AM
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2013-03-04 08:30:58 AM

IamKaiserSoze!!!: MattStafford: GoodyearPimp: For a glimpse of the future, let's check in with Greece.  Things are totally awesome there, right?

If we keep our current borrow and spend policy as is, we will look like Greece once our bond yields go up a bit.

But it will get us through a few more election cycles.

Just read that the OMB is projecting the highest US revenue ever for 2013, so obviously our debt problem is a result of not taxing enough.

Nancy, Harry and Barry. Can't make this shiate up.


Actually yeah, it is part of the problem. We had two, trillion dollar wars that one President left off the books for 8 years, and cut taxes at the same time.

But it's convenient for the right wing to forget that, which is why it needs to be constantly brought back up.
 
2013-03-04 08:31:04 AM
once again:

THERE WOULD BE NO SEQUESTER IF REPUBLICANS HADN'T HELD AMERICA'S CREDIT HOSTAGE IN THE SUMMER OF 2011.
 
2013-03-04 08:32:36 AM

FlashHarry: once again:

THERE WOULD BE NO SEQUESTER IF REPUBLICANS HADN'T HELD AMERICA'S CREDIT HOSTAGE IN THE SUMMER OF 2011.


Can we just get this to appear at the bottom of the thread perpetually, like Moderator posts?
 
2013-03-04 08:33:58 AM
Of course Fox News would say that - scientific research doesn't matter at all to Republicans (and frankly, barely matters more to many Democrats). Scientists find other things to do when their grants get cut, and they aren't going back to their old research when the grants are available again.
 
2013-03-04 08:34:00 AM

FlashHarry: once again:

THERE WOULD BE NO SEQUESTER IF REPUBLICANS HADN'T HELD AMERICA'S CREDIT HOSTAGE IN THE SUMMER OF 2011.


...Politicians hadn't spent every penny of our inheritance and credit on a decades long hooker and blow party for their corporate sponsors.
 
2013-03-04 08:34:45 AM
Was I wrong?  What would happen if bond yields returned to their historical average?  Obviously, we couldn't afford to borrow as much as we do, and would have forced austerity - very similar to what Greece is going through.  Oh - I forgot, our bond yields will stay historically low forever and the dollar will be the global reserve currency for a million more years.  Get your heads out the sand.
 
2013-03-04 08:34:48 AM

Tomahawk513: FlashHarry: once again:

THERE WOULD BE NO SEQUESTER IF REPUBLICANS HADN'T HELD AMERICA'S CREDIT HOSTAGE IN THE SUMMER OF 2011.

Can we just get this to appear at the bottom of the thread perpetually, like Moderator posts?


But then they wouldn't be "fair and balanced."
 
2013-03-04 08:35:07 AM

verbaltoxin: lordjupiter: Yakk: I learned this weekend that the president played Golf with Tiger Woods so the problems are non-existent. These are the types on insights you can only gain from watching FoxNews.

Kind of like years ago when they saw people in a shopping mall before Xmas, therefore "no recession".

Or, "It snowed a lot, so no global warming."



Cavepeople.  We're dealing with cavepeople.

At least animals have instincts that tell them when the superficial and dominant characteristics in their surroundings don't tell the entire story.  They don't sit on an egg for 5 minutes and think, "well, that didn't work".  They store nuts for the coming winter while food is plentiful.  They can sometimes actually see long-term, even if it is just biological impulse.  Fox Newzers lack such instincts in addition to the higher orders of reason that might approximate or compensate for them.

The show shouldn't be "Are You Smarter Than A 5th Grader", it should be "Are You Smarter Than A Squirrel?"
 
2013-03-04 08:36:15 AM
Shouldn't we have been conquered by the Russians, Iranians, Chinese, or North Koreans by now?  I could have sworn the Republicans cried about our security vulnerabilities. Surely, our enemies that spend way less than 10% on their militaries are going to take advantage. OMG, they are talking about canceling air shows. I've never understood why we waste so much money on those things anyway.
 
2013-03-04 08:37:00 AM

Retro42: MusicMakeMyHeadPound: Smirky the Wonder Chimp: Relax, subby.  Teapartygeddon just takes a while to build up steam.

I'm giving it 15 days until, "No one saw this disaster coming!"

More like 30. Soon as the furlough notices appear.


Add two more weeks for it to filter down through payroll.
 
2013-03-04 08:37:26 AM
THERE WOULD BE NO SEQUESTER IF REPUBLICANS HADN'T HELD AMERICA'S CREDIT HOSTAGE IN THE SUMMER OF 2011.
 
2013-03-04 08:37:42 AM

Retro42: MusicMakeMyHeadPound: Smirky the Wonder Chimp: Relax, subby.  Teapartygeddon just takes a while to build up steam.

I'm giving it 15 days until, "No one saw this disaster coming!"

More like 30. Soon as the furlough notices appear.


That horse has bolted. Close the barn door.

I have friends who are dealing with this shiat, and the notices were are out a month ago. Eating tuna and ramen is today.
 
2013-03-04 08:37:49 AM

lordjupiter: They can sometimes actually see long-term, even if it is just biological impulse.


Funny coming from the "in the long run, we're all dead" side of the aisle.
 
2013-03-04 08:38:06 AM

Smirky the Wonder Chimp: Relax, subby.  Teapartygeddon just takes a while to build up steam.


They're distracted by The Scooter Store getting raided.  It's had to mobilize when your powered wheelchairs aren't getting shipped.
 
2013-03-04 08:38:13 AM
THERE WOULD BE NO SEQUESTER IF REPUBLICANS HADN'T HELD AMERICA'S CREDIT HOSTAGE IN THE SUMMER OF 2011.
 
2013-03-04 08:38:46 AM
Next up on Fox - Why haven't our ridiculous strawman arguments come to pass?
 
2013-03-04 08:39:34 AM

omnibus_necanda_sunt: THERE WOULD BE NO SEQUESTER IF REPUBLICANS HADN'T HELD AMERICA'S CREDIT HOSTAGE IN THE SUMMER OF 2011.


Ursas xeroxing.
 
2013-03-04 08:41:32 AM
And at the first sign of actual (or imagined) trouble, Faux News will explode with outrage
 
2013-03-04 08:42:31 AM

MattStafford: Was I wrong?  What would happen if bond yields returned to their historical average?  Obviously, we couldn't afford to borrow as much as we do, and would have forced austerity - very similar to what Greece is going through.  Oh - I forgot, our bond yields will stay historically low forever and the dollar will be the global reserve currency for a million more years.  Get your heads out the sand.


How many years do you think it will take before "bond yields returned to their historical average"?

I'll throw a month of TF on it if you're willing to nut up and actually make a prediction instead of this weak shiat.  Over and over.  With slightly different analogies attached.
 
2013-03-04 08:45:45 AM

MattStafford: GoodyearPimp: For a glimpse of the future, let's check in with Greece.  Things are totally awesome there, right?

If we keep our current borrow and spend policy as is, we will look like Greece once our bond yields go up a bit.


Only if about 1000 other random variables that separate us from Greece were suddenly magically true. But keep on repeating that right wing news talking point.
 
2013-03-04 08:45:46 AM

MattStafford: Was I wrong?  What would happen if bond yields returned to their historical average?  Obviously, we couldn't afford to borrow as much as we do, and would have forced austerity - very similar to what Greece is going through.  Oh - I forgot, our bond yields will stay historically low forever and the dollar will be the global reserve currency for a million more years.  Get your heads out the sand.


Yes, and people usually don't flaunt their ignorance.
 
2013-03-04 08:47:41 AM

BeesNuts: How many years do you think it will take before "bond yields returned to their historical average"?

I'll throw a month of TF on it if you're willing to nut up and actually make a prediction instead of this weak shiat. Over and over. With slightly different analogies attached.


The market can stay rational longer than you can stay solvent, as they say.  All I can tell you is where our actions are leading us, accurately predicting a time frame is far more difficult.  I'd say it is similar to climate change science.  Will you discount climate change science because people refuse to make predictions about when the change will happen, or after you look back on failed past predictions?  I can tell you where our actions will lead us, similar to climate change scientists explaining where our actions will lead us - when is an entirely different matter.
 
2013-03-04 08:49:12 AM

MattStafford: lordjupiter: They can sometimes actually see long-term, even if it is just biological impulse.

Funny coming from the "in the long run, we're all dead" side of the aisle.


Not sure if troll or just unaware of how stupid, but I've seen enough from you to know it doesn't matter.
 
2013-03-04 08:49:49 AM
FNC sounds disappointed that the US didn't transform into Darfur at midnight on the 1st.
 
2013-03-04 08:50:24 AM

Generation_D: Only if about 1000 other random variables that separate us from Greece were suddenly magically true. But keep on repeating that right wing news talking point.


I'm curious as to what would prevent us from having a situation similar to Greece if our bond yields did return to historical averages?  We would either have massive inflation and a depression if we printed our way out of debt, or massive deflation and a depression if we cut spending.  The effect on main street would be similar.
 
2013-03-04 08:52:01 AM

machodonkeywrestler: Yes, and people usually don't flaunt their ignorance.


Then just explain how I was wrong - if bond yields go up we'll be forced to seriously cut spending or print our way out of debt.  Both options result in lots of pain for the average person.
 
2013-03-04 08:53:32 AM

lordjupiter: Not sure if troll or just unaware of how stupid, but I've seen enough from you to know it doesn't matter.


The left, in general, advocates Keynesianism, or policy heavily influenced by Keynesianism.  Keynes said in the long run, we're all dead.  Unless I'm missing something here.
 
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