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2013-03-04 08:45:47 AM  
Well, that must mean they're gonna win the World Series this October.
 
2013-03-04 08:56:40 AM  
You are correct, it doesn't matter.
 
2013-03-04 09:21:17 AM  
Meh. Spring training is preseason. Means nothing. Didn't the 0-16 Lions go 4-0 in the NFL preseason that year?
 
2013-03-04 09:22:32 AM  

LucklessWonder: Meh. Spring training is preseason. Means nothing. Didn't the 0-16 Lions go 4-0 in the NFL preseason that year?


You are correct, sir.

i358.photobucket.com
 
2013-03-04 09:24:45 AM  

I_Am_Weasel: You are correct, it doesn't matter.

 
2013-03-04 09:26:38 AM  
I had the Reds covering (Royals -3.5) as Homer Bailey had looked pretty good in his other games and I thought if he was on he would limit KC's on base opportunities.  IDIOT.  I lost my freaking ass yesterday.  THANKS CINCINNATI.

farksticks.
 
2013-03-04 09:31:45 AM  
That's OK, we're still going to be known as this centuries Red Sox for trading away Myers. Which I guess means we can expect a couple of World Series wins somewhere around 2103?
 
2013-03-04 09:48:14 AM  
Five of the 10 playoff teams in 2012 had losing records in the preseason.
 
2013-03-04 09:56:31 AM  

rickythepenguin: I had the Reds covering (Royals -3.5) as Homer Bailey had looked pretty good in his other games and I thought if he was on he would limit KC's on base opportunities.  IDIOT.  I lost my freaking ass yesterday.  THANKS CINCINNATI.

farksticks.


Bwuh? People actually bet on Spring Training baseball?
 
2013-03-04 10:04:03 AM  
Really hope Perez and Duffy don't get hurt again.  Cain too for that matter.  Davis and Sheilds add to the rotation and everyone in that bullpen throws gasoline.

/auction prep
 
2013-03-04 10:06:05 AM  
You all do know that the Royals were aggressive this off season to fix thier main problem ie starting pitching? Wait this is Fark. We don't need no facts or knowledge that Moore has worked hard to fix with this team. No need to mention all the work he did building a farm system from basically scratch. Or the fact that system is most likely going to give them the first winning season since 2003. Or the fact they will be in the hunt in September.

/ Life long Royals fan.
// Fark St Louis
/// it's going to pleasant seeing KC with more wins then the Yanks and BoSox this year
//// Fark St Louis It can't be said enough
 
2013-03-04 10:06:17 AM  

Norad: rickythepenguin: I had the Reds covering (Royals -3.5) as Homer Bailey had looked pretty good in his other games and I thought if he was on he would limit KC's on base opportunities.  IDIOT.  I lost my freaking ass yesterday.  THANKS CINCINNATI.

farksticks.

Bwuh? People actually bet on Spring Training baseball?


One of my degenerate buddies cleans up on NFL preseason games.  He goes with the "better back up QB" theory.
 
2013-03-04 10:09:30 AM  

RoyHobbs22: Really hope Perez and Duffy don't get hurt again.  Cain too for that matter.  Davis and Sheilds add to the rotation and everyone in that bullpen throws gasoline.

/auction prep




Duffy will be a gone till after the break. Perez is going to be a superstar. What's really scary is the bullpen will be even better this year because of less chance of over use
 
2013-03-04 10:12:44 AM  

Mid_mo_mad_man: You all do know that the Royals were aggressive this off season to fix thier main problem ie starting pitching? Wait this is Fark. We don't need no facts or knowledge that Moore has worked hard to fix with this team. No need to mention all the work he did building a farm system from basically scratch. Or the fact that system is most likely going to give them the first winning season since 2003. Or the fact they will be in the hunt in September.

/ Life long Royals fan.
// Fark St Louis
/// it's going to pleasant seeing KC with more wins then the Yanks and BoSox this year
//// Fark St Louis It can't be said enough


I don't have much hope for my White Sox  (although whenever expectations are low for them they tend to surprise at least a little, and then they flop when they are supposed to do well), so if they don't compete I'd be rooting for the Royals to take the division. Because fark Detroit and Cleveland.
 
2013-03-04 10:15:14 AM  

Mid_mo_mad_man: You all do know that the Royals were aggressive this off season to fix thier main problem ie starting pitching? Wait this is Fark. We don't need no facts or knowledge that Moore has worked hard to fix with this team. No need to mention all the work he did building a farm system from basically scratch. Or the fact that system is most likely going to give them the first winning season since 2003. Or the fact they will be in the hunt in September.

/ Life long Royals fan.
// Fark St Louis
/// it's going to pleasant seeing KC with more wins then the Yanks and BoSox this year
//// Fark St Louis It can't be said enough


When the Royals actually end the season anywhere close to .500 for once I'll listen to this.  Until that time you can kindly take your "BELEIVE!" and "OUR TIME" t-shirts and find a place where the sun doesn't shine for them.
 
2013-03-04 10:17:38 AM  

LucklessWonder: Meh. Spring training is preseason. Means nothing. Didn't the 0-16 Lions go 4-0 in the NFL preseason that year?


That is why the Superbowl should be the first game played like the way Daytona 500 is the 'Superbowl' of Nascar.  Most first wins of the season for the Lions is game one, but a lot of times they finish the season without another win.  I know a lot of Lions fans that fall for that.  They start placing bets after that first win and end up losing their shirts, every year.

/Except for 2011, but they got cleaned out last year
//They tend to give generous point spreads too
 
2013-03-04 10:20:39 AM  

SlagginOff: Mid_mo_mad_man: You all do know that the Royals were aggressive this off season to fix thier main problem ie starting pitching? Wait this is Fark. We don't need no facts or knowledge that Moore has worked hard to fix with this team. No need to mention all the work he did building a farm system from basically scratch. Or the fact that system is most likely going to give them the first winning season since 2003. Or the fact they will be in the hunt in September.

/ Life long Royals fan.
// Fark St Louis
/// it's going to pleasant seeing KC with more wins then the Yanks and BoSox this year
//// Fark St Louis It can't be said enough

I don't have much hope for my White Sox  (although whenever expectations are low for them they tend to surprise at least a little, and then they flop when they are supposed to do well), so if they don't compete I'd be rooting for the Royals to take the division. Because fark Detroit and Cleveland.




Chicago seems to be the only team in the central that didn't make a move to better themselves. Well besides the Twins. Cleveland hired a new skipper and a broke about even on signings and losing people to free agency. The Tigers added Hunter and Sanchez but I see them winning fewer games this year. First team that hits 85-86 wins takes the division.

/
 
2013-03-04 10:21:39 AM  

Mid_mo_mad_man: You all do know that the Royals were aggressive this off season to fix thier main problem ie starting pitching? Wait this is Fark. We don't need no facts or knowledge that Moore has worked hard to fix with this team. No need to mention all the work he did building a farm system from basically scratch. Or the fact that system is most likely going to give them the first winning season since 2003. Or the fact they will be in the hunt in September.

/ Life long Royals fan.
// Fark St Louis
/// it's going to pleasant seeing KC with more wins then the Yanks and BoSox this year
//// Fark St Louis It can't be said enough


In the hunt for third in the AL Central?  Maybe.  The rosters for the Tigers and White Sox are both better, top to bottom, than the Royals.  Hell, on a position-by-position comparison, the KC player at nearly every position is worse than both the Tigers and Sox player.
 
2013-03-04 10:24:11 AM  

Mid_mo_mad_man: The Tigers added Hunter and Sanchez but I see them winning fewer games this year.


The Tigers woefully underachieved last year.  Their lack of balance both in terms of pitching and hitting really cost them games.  Adding Hunter and Sanchez are huge because you have good players throughout the rotation and throughout the order.
 
2013-03-04 10:24:33 AM  

theurge14: Mid_mo_mad_man: You all do know that the Royals were aggressive this off season to fix thier main problem ie starting pitching? Wait this is Fark. We don't need no facts or knowledge that Moore has worked hard to fix with this team. No need to mention all the work he did building a farm system from basically scratch. Or the fact that system is most likely going to give them the first winning season since 2003. Or the fact they will be in the hunt in September.

/ Life long Royals fan.
// Fark St Louis
/// it's going to pleasant seeing KC with more wins then the Yanks and BoSox this year
//// Fark St Louis It can't be said enough

When the Royals actually end the season anywhere close to .500 for once I'll listen to this.  Until that time you can kindly take your "BELEIVE!" and "OUR TIME" t-shirts and find a place where the sun doesn't shine for them.




Do you need a hug? I'm sensing some hurt feelings. 73 was the win total last year. If you don't see 8 more wins with this new rotation & Perez all season your clueless.
 
2013-03-04 10:26:24 AM  

Norad: Bwuh? People actually bet on Spring Training baseball?


ha.  I don't know.  you probably can.

it's just a troll post i do in sports threads sometimes.  like the little league world series, i wrote this long (but factual) post on the Taiwan pitcher's record, the Americans' batting average, and  i threw in some crap like "[name of coach] has shown he likes the hit and run so if they get on base and [pitcher] is tired, look for the hit and run, blah blah blah", "i like the Americans to win outright as the spread is only 2.5" and people were like, "DUDE, YOU HAVE A PROBLEM", "are you kidding?  vegas has odds on the LLWS?"  "you disgust me, betting on kids' sports!"

it's just a troll.
 
2013-03-04 10:27:52 AM  

Mid_mo_mad_man: You all do know that the Royals were aggressive this off season to fix thier main problem ie starting pitching? Wait this is Fark. We don't need no facts or knowledge that Moore has worked hard to fix with this team. No need to mention all the work he did building a farm system from basically scratch. Or the fact that system is most likely going to give them the first winning season since 2003. Or the fact they will be in the hunt in September.

/ Life long Royals fan.
// Fark St Louis
/// it's going to pleasant seeing KC with more wins then the Yanks and BoSox this year
//// Fark St Louis It can't be said enough


multimedia.billybrew.com
/hot
 
2013-03-04 10:29:52 AM  

monkwich: Mid_mo_mad_man: You all do know that the Royals were aggressive this off season to fix thier main problem ie starting pitching? Wait this is Fark. We don't need no facts or knowledge that Moore has worked hard to fix with this team. No need to mention all the work he did building a farm system from basically scratch. Or the fact that system is most likely going to give them the first winning season since 2003. Or the fact they will be in the hunt in September.

/ Life long Royals fan.
// Fark St Louis
/// it's going to pleasant seeing KC with more wins then the Yanks and BoSox this year
//// Fark St Louis It can't be said enough

[multimedia.billybrew.com image 330x282]
/hot




Ok I deserved that.
 
2013-03-04 10:30:25 AM  

rickythepenguin: Norad: Bwuh? People actually bet on Spring Training baseball?

ha.  I don't know.  you probably can.

it's just a troll post i do in sports threads sometimes.  like the little league world series, i wrote this long (but factual) post on the Taiwan pitcher's record, the Americans' batting average, and  i threw in some crap like "[name of coach] has shown he likes the hit and run so if they get on base and [pitcher] is tired, look for the hit and run, blah blah blah", "i like the Americans to win outright as the spread is only 2.5" and people were like, "DUDE, YOU HAVE A PROBLEM", "are you kidding?  vegas has odds on the LLWS?"  "you disgust me, betting on kids' sports!"

it's just a troll.


You forgot that Taiwan is South of the equator, so the ball curves in the opposite direction.
 
2013-03-04 10:32:52 AM  

Mid_mo_mad_man: theurge14: Mid_mo_mad_man: You all do know that the Royals were aggressive this off season to fix thier main problem ie starting pitching? Wait this is Fark. We don't need no facts or knowledge that Moore has worked hard to fix with this team. No need to mention all the work he did building a farm system from basically scratch. Or the fact that system is most likely going to give them the first winning season since 2003. Or the fact they will be in the hunt in September.

/ Life long Royals fan.
// Fark St Louis
/// it's going to pleasant seeing KC with more wins then the Yanks and BoSox this year
//// Fark St Louis It can't be said enough

When the Royals actually end the season anywhere close to .500 for once I'll listen to this.  Until that time you can kindly take your "BELEIVE!" and "OUR TIME" t-shirts and find a place where the sun doesn't shine for them.

Do you need a hug? I'm sensing some hurt feelings. 73 was the win total last year. If you don't see 8 more wins with this new rotation & Perez all season your clueless.


Some might call it "battered spouse syndrome" due sinking time and emotional effort into them only to have nuts kicked repeatedly.  I'm sorry if this offends you, but the Royals stink and the only guarantee anyone can ever make about them is they will always find ways to lose.  It's much more likely they'll lose 100 again before they win 8 more.
 
2013-03-04 10:40:53 AM  

lack of warmth: That is why the Superbowl should be the first game played like the way Daytona 500 is the 'Superbowl' of Nascar.


A 32-team battle? That sounds messy. But I'd probably watch just to see how it works out.
 
2013-03-04 10:42:27 AM  

theurge14: Mid_mo_mad_man: theurge14: Mid_mo_mad_man: You all do know that the Royals were aggressive this off season to fix thier main problem ie starting pitching? Wait this is Fark. We don't need no facts or knowledge that Moore has worked hard to fix with this team. No need to mention all the work he did building a farm system from basically scratch. Or the fact that system is most likely going to give them the first winning season since 2003. Or the fact they will be in the hunt in September.

/ Life long Royals fan.
// Fark St Louis
/// it's going to pleasant seeing KC with more wins then the Yanks and BoSox this year
//// Fark St Louis It can't be said enough

When the Royals actually end the season anywhere close to .500 for once I'll listen to this.  Until that time you can kindly take your "BELEIVE!" and "OUR TIME" t-shirts and find a place where the sun doesn't shine for them.

Do you need a hug? I'm sensing some hurt feelings. 73 was the win total last year. If you don't see 8 more wins with this new rotation & Perez all season your clueless.

Some might call it "battered spouse syndrome" due sinking time and emotional effort into them only to have nuts kicked repeatedly.  I'm sorry if this offends you, but the Royals stink and the only guarantee anyone can ever make about them is they will always find ways to lose.  It's much more likely they'll lose 100 again before they win 8 more.




The battered spouse comment is a little odd but I get your point. There is however more then a little evidence that they are changing. The much improved rotation is one positive sign. The willingness of Moore to make the bold need trade for pitching. If nothing else it should warm your heart that Glass is spending 80 million on payroll. Seeing him part with any money is a good thing.
 
2013-03-04 10:53:47 AM  

Mid_mo_mad_man: You all do know that the Royals were aggressive this off season to fix thier main problem ie starting pitching? Wait this is Fark. We don't need no facts or knowledge that Moore has worked hard to fix with this team. No need to mention all the work he did building a farm system from basically scratch. Or the fact that system is most likely going to give them the first winning season since 2003. Or the fact they will be in the hunt in September.

/ Life long Royals fan.
// Fark St Louis
/// it's going to pleasant seeing KC with more wins then the Yanks and BoSox this year
//// Fark St Louis It can't be said enough


I hope this is finally the break they need.  This is the Royals though, so we'll see.
 
2013-03-04 11:00:21 AM  

thecpt: You forgot that Taiwan is South of the equator, so the ball curves in the opposite direction.


GYROBALL.
 
2013-03-04 11:06:23 AM  

Mid_mo_mad_man: theurge14: Mid_mo_mad_man: theurge14: Mid_mo_mad_man: You all do know that the Royals were aggressive this off season to fix thier main problem ie starting pitching? Wait this is Fark. We don't need no facts or knowledge that Moore has worked hard to fix with this team. No need to mention all the work he did building a farm system from basically scratch. Or the fact that system is most likely going to give them the first winning season since 2003. Or the fact they will be in the hunt in September.

/ Life long Royals fan.
// Fark St Louis
/// it's going to pleasant seeing KC with more wins then the Yanks and BoSox this year
//// Fark St Louis It can't be said enough

When the Royals actually end the season anywhere close to .500 for once I'll listen to this.  Until that time you can kindly take your "BELEIVE!" and "OUR TIME" t-shirts and find a place where the sun doesn't shine for them.

Do you need a hug? I'm sensing some hurt feelings. 73 was the win total last year. If you don't see 8 more wins with this new rotation & Perez all season your clueless.

Some might call it "battered spouse syndrome" due sinking time and emotional effort into them only to have nuts kicked repeatedly.  I'm sorry if this offends you, but the Royals stink and the only guarantee anyone can ever make about them is they will always find ways to lose.  It's much more likely they'll lose 100 again before they win 8 more.

The battered spouse comment is a little odd but I get your point. There is however more then a little evidence that they are changing. The much improved rotation is one positive sign. The willingness of Moore to make the bold need trade for pitching. If nothing else it should warm your heart that Glass is spending 80 million on payroll. Seeing him part with any money is a good thing.


i.imgur.com

That's all I'm sayin'.
 
2013-03-04 11:10:18 AM  
Pre-season baseball gets a green. lol
 
2013-03-04 11:14:09 AM  

Mentat: Mid_mo_mad_man: You all do know that the Royals were aggressive this off season to fix thier main problem ie starting pitching? Wait this is Fark. We don't need no facts or knowledge that Moore has worked hard to fix with this team. No need to mention all the work he did building a farm system from basically scratch. Or the fact that system is most likely going to give them the first winning season since 2003. Or the fact they will be in the hunt in September.

/ Life long Royals fan.
// Fark St Louis
/// it's going to pleasant seeing KC with more wins then the Yanks and BoSox this year
//// Fark St Louis It can't be said enough

I hope this is finally the break they need.  This is the Royals though, so we'll see.


Agreed. Until they start proving otherwise, my expectations are in the basement.

One of the nice things about is that I get to watch a sort of funhouse version of the Royals- a small market team that actually seems determined to finish above .500 ( if not reach the playoffs) every year. I get to pretend that Miller Park is Kauffman Stadium, ans BAM- it's like being in KC in the late 80's.
 
2013-03-04 11:16:23 AM  
is it a double tapered improvement?
 
2013-03-04 11:17:44 AM  
*moving to Milwaukee. My phone decided to eat that part of my comment, apparently.
 
2013-03-04 11:18:33 AM  

IAmRight: lack of warmth: That is why the Superbowl should be the first game played like the way Daytona 500 is the 'Superbowl' of Nascar.

A 32-team battle? That sounds messy. But I'd probably watch just to see how it works out


Insert the "Anchorman" TV news battle in the alley here.
 
2013-03-04 11:33:26 AM  

jayhawk88: That's OK, we're still going to be known as this centuries Red Sox for trading away Myers Cone. Which I guess means we can expect a couple of World Series wins somewhere around 2103?


FTFY.
 
2013-03-04 11:34:44 AM  

theurge14: Mid_mo_mad_man: theurge14: Mid_mo_mad_man: You all do know that the Royals were aggressive this off season to fix thier main problem ie starting pitching? Wait this is Fark. We don't need no facts or knowledge that Moore has worked hard to fix with this team. No need to mention all the work he did building a farm system from basically scratch. Or the fact that system is most likely going to give them the first winning season since 2003. Or the fact they will be in the hunt in September.

/ Life long Royals fan.
// Fark St Louis
/// it's going to pleasant seeing KC with more wins then the Yanks and BoSox this year
//// Fark St Louis It can't be said enough

When the Royals actually end the season anywhere close to .500 for once I'll listen to this.  Until that time you can kindly take your "BELEIVE!" and "OUR TIME" t-shirts and find a place where the sun doesn't shine for them.

Do you need a hug? I'm sensing some hurt feelings. 73 was the win total last year. If you don't see 8 more wins with this new rotation & Perez all season your clueless.

Some might call it "battered spouse syndrome" due sinking time and emotional effort into them only to have nuts kicked repeatedly.  I'm sorry if this offends you, but the Royals stink and the only guarantee anyone can ever make about them is they will always find ways to lose.  It's much more likely they'll lose 100 again before they win 8 more.


This just isn't true.  Teams aren't actually brands where having a certain name on your jersey means you suck.  The Astros are a joke and they were real good less than a decade ago.  The Rays were awful until they weren't.  73 wins isn't THAT bad, and adding 8 more isn't out of the question.

At the same time, I think the James Shields trade was ludicrous, unless they resign him, in which case it'll only be bad.  Shields is a solid pitcher who throws a ton of innings, but he's not amazing.  I wouldn't be shocked to see Wil Myers be better this season, let alone down the road.  Move screams "we need to be taken seriously so let's do something dumb to trick our fans!"
 
2013-03-04 11:34:55 AM  

Jim from Saint Paul: Pre-season baseball gets a green. lol


pre-season football gets greens all the time (not to start a sports war)

I'm actually disappointed we haven't had a single WBC thread, though hopefully we'll get one once Pool D (which has the US) gets going.
 
2013-03-04 11:35:41 AM  
The Royals are undefeated because they ....

www.foxsportskansascity.com
 
2013-03-04 11:36:17 AM  

Dafatone: This just isn't true.  Teams aren't actually brands where having a certain name on your jersey means you suck.


Cubs.
 
2013-03-04 11:41:36 AM  

The Bestest: Dafatone: This just isn't true.  Teams aren't actually brands where having a certain name on your jersey means you suck.

Cubs.


Raiders.

Duke.
 
2013-03-04 11:44:22 AM  

Dr.Zom: The Bestest: Dafatone: This just isn't true.  Teams aren't actually brands where having a certain name on your jersey means you suck.

Cubs.

Raiders.

Duke.


The Cubs will always remain a punchline, but there's no Steve Bartman without actually making it to the postseason (and the NLCS, even).  The Raiders were in a Super Bowl about a decade ago, where they promptly got flattened.

My point is that no team is guaranteed to not have a winning season because of their name.  I'd be shocked if, say, the Cubs actually won it all, but the postseason isn't out of reach.  Well, maybe it is this year.

Also, Duke sucks.
 
2013-03-04 11:46:25 AM  

Dafatone: theurge14: Mid_mo_mad_man: theurge14: Mid_mo_mad_man: You all do know that the Royals were aggressive this off season to fix thier main problem ie starting pitching? Wait this is Fark. We don't need no facts or knowledge that Moore has worked hard to fix with this team. No need to mention all the work he did building a farm system from basically scratch. Or the fact that system is most likely going to give them the first winning season since 2003. Or the fact they will be in the hunt in September.

/ Life long Royals fan.
// Fark St Louis
/// it's going to pleasant seeing KC with more wins then the Yanks and BoSox this year
//// Fark St Louis It can't be said enough

When the Royals actually end the season anywhere close to .500 for once I'll listen to this.  Until that time you can kindly take your "BELEIVE!" and "OUR TIME" t-shirts and find a place where the sun doesn't shine for them.

Do you need a hug? I'm sensing some hurt feelings. 73 was the win total last year. If you don't see 8 more wins with this new rotation & Perez all season your clueless.

Some might call it "battered spouse syndrome" due sinking time and emotional effort into them only to have nuts kicked repeatedly.  I'm sorry if this offends you, but the Royals stink and the only guarantee anyone can ever make about them is they will always find ways to lose.  It's much more likely they'll lose 100 again before they win 8 more.

This just isn't true.  Teams aren't actually brands where having a certain name on your jersey means you suck.  The Astros are a joke and they were real good less than a decade ago.  The Rays were awful until they weren't.  73 wins isn't THAT bad, and adding 8 more isn't out of the question.

At the same time, I think the James Shields trade was ludicrous, unless they resign him, in which case it'll only be bad.  Shields is a solid pitcher who throws a ton of innings, but he's not amazing.  I wouldn't be shocked to see Wil Myers be better this season, let alone down the ro ...




This ! Most of the comments in this are "this is the Royals so it doesn't matter". As for the Meyers trade I like it. First it and the other pitching moves almost insure a gain in wins. People need to relize you can't horde all your prospects. You have to sometimes trade a unknown but possible superstar for some proven players. I also like the idea that they are saying we are done building and ready to compete. A couple winning seasons and suddenly free agents are easier to sign. Plus Glass has said as long as attendance keeps going up payroll will continue to rise which means we might be able to bid on a free agent.
 
2013-03-04 11:49:57 AM  

Mid_mo_mad_man: theurge14: Mid_mo_mad_man: You all do know that the Royals were aggressive this off season to fix thier main problem ie starting pitching? Wait this is Fark. We don't need no facts or knowledge that Moore has worked hard to fix with this team. No need to mention all the work he did building a farm system from basically scratch. Or the fact that system is most likely going to give them the first winning season since 2003. Or the fact they will be in the hunt in September.

/ Life long Royals fan.
// Fark St Louis
/// it's going to pleasant seeing KC with more wins then the Yanks and BoSox this year
//// Fark St Louis It can't be said enough

When the Royals actually end the season anywhere close to .500 for once I'll listen to this.  Until that time you can kindly take your "BELEIVE!" and "OUR TIME" t-shirts and find a place where the sun doesn't shine for them.

Do you need a hug? I'm sensing some hurt feelings. 73 was the win total last year. If you don't see 8 more wins with this new rotation & Perez all season your clueless.


He's at the intersection of Underinformed St. and Overbutthurt Ave.

The Royals should be right around .500 this year, despite them probably playing Jeff Francoeur way more than anyone should.  They have a reasonable lineup of young players that will likely improve over last season.  Alex Gordon might be their oldest regular, and he's 29.  2B is likely to be painful, but Giavotella is young enough that I wouldn't write him off based on two mini-seasons.

The rotation doesn't reassure me.  I like Shields and Ervin Santana.  Guthrie/Davis/Chen won't embarrass, but I wouldn't expect them to turn out to be a league-average #3/#4/#5 trio.  Holland/Crow/Collins/Herrera looks like a better than average bullpen, especially given last year's performance at ages 22-26.  Collins might a a breakout guy, not that a breakout middle reliever is anything to wet your pants over.

Overall, a solid "Meh" for 2013, with some promise down the road.  Remember also that the Royals are in the "Tigers plus Meh" division, so their strength of schedule suggests a few extra wins.
 
2013-03-04 11:53:08 AM  
Remember '85!
 
2013-03-04 11:54:07 AM  

Wellon Dowd: Five of the 10 playoff teams in 2012 had losing records in the preseason.

Yeah, but five of the 10 playoff teams in 2012 had winning records in the preseason.

 
2013-03-04 11:54:46 AM  

Mentat: Mid_mo_mad_man: You all do know that the Royals were aggressive this off season to fix thier main problem ie starting pitching? Wait this is Fark. We don't need no facts or knowledge that Moore has worked hard to fix with this team. No need to mention all the work he did building a farm system from basically scratch. Or the fact that system is most likely going to give them the first winning season since 2003. Or the fact they will be in the hunt in September.

/ Life long Royals fan.
// Fark St Louis
/// it's going to pleasant seeing KC with more wins then the Yanks and BoSox this year
//// Fark St Louis It can't be said enough

I hope this is finally the break they need.  This is the Royals though, so we'll see.


It's funny, I have  Mid_mo_mad_man ignored as  STL troll and  Mentat favorited in Mizzou gold as  Mizzou fan/KC, and really the two comments above live up to those qualifiers.  It would be nice to see KC rise up and put a quality product out on the diamond, one that can be consistent.  Not a lot of people on the east side of MO would remember, or probably acknowledge this, but there was a time when the George Brett-era was in full swing that KC was a MUCH better baseball town than St. Louis was, and really KC was a great baseball town until probably about the late 90's.  From your comments, it sounds like that fire hasn't completely died, which is good.  The KC-STL games every year are fairly spirited, and I wish that KC would have jumped to the NL when they had the chance, although the Brewers have been interesting in their place.

Mid_mo, you say fark St Louis, but really it seems that their model of business is the one KC should try and reach.  Their management has kept a consistent product on the field that isn't bad without hemorrhaging the farm system to do it.  The Cards are at $110M with salaries and the Royals are about $60M right now, but that can grow with the right management style and attitude.  Besides, I don't see the Chefs becoming relevant again until at least 2014, but that's wishful thinking on my part and everything going right (IMO) for that to happen, so now would be a great time for management to get KC behind them if they can sustain it.  It is a shame that players the likes of Mark Sweeney have no further accolades to show than for playing for the team he loved because upper management simply didn't care.
 
2013-03-04 11:55:12 AM  
I did see one placement in Spring Training that matters.

That placement is stone dead last. 30th position. Finish last in the spring, you're going to suck in the summer.
 
2013-03-04 11:56:27 AM  

Mid_mo_mad_man: Dafatone: theurge14: Mid_mo_mad_man: theurge14: Mid_mo_mad_man: You all do know that the Royals were aggressive this off season to fix thier main problem ie starting pitching? Wait this is Fark. We don't need no facts or knowledge that Moore has worked hard to fix with this team. No need to mention all the work he did building a farm system from basically scratch. Or the fact that system is most likely going to give them the first winning season since 2003. Or the fact they will be in the hunt in September.

/ Life long Royals fan.
// Fark St Louis
/// it's going to pleasant seeing KC with more wins then the Yanks and BoSox this year
//// Fark St Louis It can't be said enough

When the Royals actually end the season anywhere close to .500 for once I'll listen to this.  Until that time you can kindly take your "BELEIVE!" and "OUR TIME" t-shirts and find a place where the sun doesn't shine for them.

Do you need a hug? I'm sensing some hurt feelings. 73 was the win total last year. If you don't see 8 more wins with this new rotation & Perez all season your clueless.

Some might call it "battered spouse syndrome" due sinking time and emotional effort into them only to have nuts kicked repeatedly.  I'm sorry if this offends you, but the Royals stink and the only guarantee anyone can ever make about them is they will always find ways to lose.  It's much more likely they'll lose 100 again before they win 8 more.

This just isn't true.  Teams aren't actually brands where having a certain name on your jersey means you suck.  The Astros are a joke and they were real good less than a decade ago.  The Rays were awful until they weren't.  73 wins isn't THAT bad, and adding 8 more isn't out of the question.

At the same time, I think the James Shields trade was ludicrous, unless they resign him, in which case it'll only be bad.  Shields is a solid pitcher who throws a ton of innings, but he's not amazing.  I wouldn't be shocked to see Wil Myers be better this season, let alone d ...


Except all the pluses you mention are psychological/attitude ones.  "Signaling to the team/fans that we're trying to compete" and stuff like that.  Which is nice, especially when a team's been bad for so long, but I'm more of the opinion that building the best roster is most important, and like I said, I wouldn't be shocked to see Myers be flat better than Shields this season.
 
2013-03-04 11:59:22 AM  

Dafatone: At the same time, I think the James Shields trade was ludicrous, unless they resign him, in which case it'll only be bad.  Shields is a solid pitcher who throws a ton of innings, but he's not amazing.  I wouldn't be shocked to see Wil Myers be better this season, let alone down the road.  Move screams "we need to be taken seriously so let's do something dumb to trick our fans!"


Shields is a quality pitcher, no doubt, but he's probably the 3rd or 4th best starting pitcher in the AL Central behind Verlander, Sale, and maybe Scherzer.
 
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