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2013-03-04 08:20:42 AM
When does the world end?  Have we started laying off teachers yet?  What about the TSA?

Come on, we need some drama, some major disaster.  Otherwise it just looks like Obama spent weeks scaring people.  Our Messiah wouldn't do that.
 
2013-03-04 08:31:32 AM
I don't see "Republican congressmen and women marched off to jail."

Which is historically how quite a few governments would have handled it.
 
2013-03-04 08:35:06 AM

BillCo: When does the world end?  Have we started laying off teachers yet?  What about the TSA?

Come on, we need some drama, some major disaster.  Otherwise it just looks like Obama spent weeks scaring people.  Our Messiah wouldn't do that.


We actually had to cut 3 people from our staff in the past few days.  Out of about 80 people.  Not exactly earth-shattering, mind you.  Well...maybe to the people who got laid off, but still.

What I'm curious about is:  are our current circumstances similar to back in 1997, when there was a mess of hand-wringing about our budget, and yet we ended up with the first budget *surplus* in, like, decades?  Maybe we should apply that formula.
 
2013-03-04 08:42:27 AM
You need that extra comma because now your second scenario and your third scenario blend right into each other.
 
2013-03-04 08:43:14 AM
I hope my puppy is a mini schnauzer. My foodle needs a friend.
 
2013-03-04 08:43:44 AM

xanadian: What I'm curious about is: are our current circumstances similar to back in 1997, when there was a mess of hand-wringing about our budget, and yet we ended up with the first budget *surplus* in, like, decades? Maybe we should apply that formula.


we also had higher taxes that helped with that back then

...then we cut taxes and launched two wars, so that surplus was kinda bupkis

I wish we could accept that if we have a surplus, we don't cut taxes immediately after
 
2013-03-04 08:44:58 AM

BillCo: When does the world end?  Have we started laying off teachers yet?  What about the TSA?

Come on, we need some drama, some major disaster.  Otherwise it just looks like Obama spent weeks scaring people.  Our Messiah wouldn't do that.


Can we just haul some nazi ovens out of storage for the TSA? Much better solution. But if those aren't available, I've been designing a human sized microwave.
 
2013-03-04 08:48:10 AM
So are we headed towards Armageddon or not? I seriously need to know because last night's Walking Dead gave me some awesome ideas for fortifying my block in the coming apocalypse.
 
2013-03-04 08:49:59 AM

Moosecakes: You need that extra comma because now your second scenario and your third scenario blend right into each other.


Oxford and Harvard agree with you. Elitist!
 
2013-03-04 08:59:15 AM
At least the WH now admits the Sequestor was their plan.   Publicly.


"We put forth the design of" the sequestration, Sperling finally admits after a long back-and-forth." -Meet the Press

Joe biden walked it up to the Hill,  the President then signed it.    The president then publicly declared he would veto any attmept to change it in any way.


Even the ever compliant media is waking up and realizing that even though the WH can't pass a budget....they can sure pass the buck.

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2013-03-04 09:00:31 AM

netcentric: At least the WH now admits the Sequestor was their plan.   Publicly.


"We put forth the design of" the sequestration, Sperling finally admits after a long back-and-forth." -Meet the Press

Joe biden walked it up to the Hill,  the President then signed it.    The president then publicly declared he would veto any attmept to change it in any way.


Even the ever compliant media is waking up and realizing that even though the WH can't pass a budget....they can sure pass the buck.

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You're right, the White House can't pass a budget. That's Constitution, biatch. Civics. BAM.
 
2013-03-04 09:01:20 AM

BillCo: When does the world end?  Have we started laying off teachers yet?  What about the TSA?

Come on, we need some drama, some major disaster.  Otherwise it just looks like Obama spent weeks scaring people.  Our Messiah wouldn't do that.


While this won't be AS bad, do you remember when the stock market crashed in 2008. The economy as a whole didn't go into a tail spin that very day, it took it a few weeks and months before millions lost their jobs.
 
2013-03-04 09:06:46 AM

netcentric: At least the WH now admits the Sequestor was their plan.   Publicly.


"We put forth the design of" the sequestration, Sperling finally admits after a long back-and-forth." -Meet the Press

Joe biden walked it up to the Hill,  the President then signed it.    The president then publicly declared he would veto any attmept to change it in any way.


Even the ever compliant media is waking up and realizing that even though the WH can't pass a budget....they can sure pass the buck.

[imageshack.us image 320x242]


For what reason, then, did Representative John Boehner (R-OH) claim that the "debt ceiling" negotiation from which the "sequester" consequence was created resulted in him receiving "98% of what he wanted"? If the "sequester" was the idea of President Obama, then for what reason did John Boehner claim credit for 98% of it?
 
2013-03-04 09:10:34 AM

Generation_D: I don't see "Republican congressmen and women marched off to jail."

Which is historically how quite a few governments would have handled it.


The problem, of course, is that the followup would be "Democratic congressmen and women marched off to jail" next time there's a Republican president.
 
2013-03-04 09:10:49 AM
I'll tell you exactly what's going to happen. Republican are going to continue laughing this shiat off like it's funny. "They're not real cuts!" "This is like, half a half a half a percent of the budget!"  

And the conservative public will too, because those are the talking points they've been given. 

But people are going to lose their jobs or take pay cuts. The military is already being affected. Programs for the poor and unemployed are going to get shafted. And these things, they'll be slow to hit us. I've seen a lot of "The world didn't end" comments, because no one really knows how this is supposed to work. The money doesn't slow till the end of March, and the furloughs don't happen until the end of April. First we'll get the individual stories about how shiatty this is, and then they'll start to pile up. Then the economy will sputter, starting with the communities that have a large federal and/or military presence. Then we'll think, maybe this ain't so funny. 

As the reality starts to hit us and the average American starts to see how this is farked up, we'll stop talking about "sequester" and "budget cuts." It will become "austerity," and we'll start to ask ourselves whether we want to go down that path. Does it matter that this is not austerity? Nope. We'll lose patience with this bullshiat, and we'll suddenly remember that this isn't a natural consequence of a bloated budget, but a self imposed economic grounding. We'll demand an end to it, and at that time we'll be done with the idea of drastic cuts and austerity and all that bullshiat.

Does it matter that this was Obama's idea, as the republicans are so fond of saying? Why the hell would it? Obama is implementing our own mini-austerity and giving Americans a taste of the kind of drastic cuts that the Republicans want. Why would Obama have a problem taking the blame for it when the end result will be a shift in public opinion that favors his own world view? Republicans are banking on the idea that this sequester will make both parties look equally bad. But how would it, when these cuts are by and large being welcomed by the republican party? The sequester might be poorly done, but it is sort of what the republicans actually want. This will end with the American people crying uncle and the democratic party saying "You see what Republicans want for America? This is the world they envision." 

The republicans  are clearly going to lose this. Clearly. The best thing they can do is to give Obama a small win at the beginning and stop this from continuing. I really think this will be Obama's coup de grace.
 
2013-03-04 09:12:53 AM

BillCo: When does the world end?  Have we started laying off teachers yet?  What about the TSA?

Come on, we need some drama, some major disaster.  Otherwise it just looks like Obama spent weeks scaring people.  Our Messiah wouldn't do that.


It's been 2 days since the bill was enacted. The money won't slow down until the end of this month and the furloughs don't happen until the end of April.
 
2013-03-04 09:15:12 AM

netcentric: At least the WH now admits the Sequestor was their plan.   Publicly.


"We put forth the design of" the sequestration, Sperling finally admits after a long back-and-forth." -Meet the Press

Joe biden walked it up to the Hill,  the President then signed it.    The president then publicly declared he would veto any attmept to change it in any way.


Even the ever compliant media is waking up and realizing that even though the WH can't pass a budget....they can sure pass the buck.

[imageshack.us image 320x242]


The republicans are fools for allowing themselves to be distracted by such inconsequential nonsense.
 
2013-03-04 09:15:38 AM

Nishu: BillCo: When does the world end?  Have we started laying off teachers yet?  What about the TSA?

Come on, we need some drama, some major disaster.  Otherwise it just looks like Obama spent weeks scaring people.  Our Messiah wouldn't do that.

It's been 2 days since the bill was enacted. The money won't slow down until the end of this month and the furloughs don't happen until the end of April.


But, Obama said they would be immediate.  You're not saying he lied to us, are you?
 
2013-03-04 09:19:38 AM

BillCo: When does the world end?  Have we started laying off teachers yet?  What about the TSA?

Come on, we need some drama, some major disaster.  Otherwise it just looks like Obama spent weeks scaring people.  Our Messiah wouldn't do that.


My wife is back in school and went to the library to study and found out that as of Sunday they have cut night and weekend hours.  Students really don't need a library they can just use Wikipedia
 
2013-03-04 09:20:34 AM

netcentric: ... even though the WH can't pass a budget....they can sure pass the buck.


I bet that would make a nice bumper sticker.  Makes no sense, doesn't reflect reality in any meaningful way, over simplifies the problem to the point of dishonesty, and distorts the reality of where responsibility rests for federal budgetary issues.

But I'll bet you could sell 500,000 of them in a month, and people stick it right next to their sparkly eagle "God Bless America" sticker.
 
2013-03-04 09:20:45 AM

johnryan51: My wife works for DOD and she was wondering if you could take the 22 furlough days at once and apply for unemployment. Do you know anything about that?


no idea, but I think most bases are going to have team members take one day a week in a rotational like thing

/sucks that it probably won't be backpaid if the sequester is overturned after the furloughs go into place
 
2013-03-04 09:23:15 AM

BillCo: Nishu: BillCo: When does the world end?  Have we started laying off teachers yet?  What about the TSA?

Come on, we need some drama, some major disaster.  Otherwise it just looks like Obama spent weeks scaring people.  Our Messiah wouldn't do that.

It's been 2 days since the bill was enacted. The money won't slow down until the end of this month and the furloughs don't happen until the end of April.

But, Obama said they would be immediate.  You're not saying he lied to us, are you?


I suppose if you are completely stupid and need to rely word for word on the word of a politician rather than looking up the information yourself, this might matter to you. It's never been a secret that the cuts would take time to implement. That has been the timeline since the date was pushed back with the last budget deal.
 
2013-03-04 09:26:53 AM

netcentric: At least the WH now admits the Sequestor was their plan.   Publicly.


"We put forth the design of" the sequestration, Sperling finally admits after a long back-and-forth." -Meet the Press

Joe biden walked it up to the Hill,  the President then signed it.    The president then publicly declared he would veto any attmept to change it in any way.


Even the ever compliant media is waking up and realizing that even though the WH can't pass a budget....they can sure pass the buck.

[imageshack.us image 320x242]


The sequester was SUPPOSED to be a threat to both parties, something hanging over their heads so they'd cooperate. The Republicans agreed to it because they, in their arrogance, assumed they'd win the Presidency and it wouldn't be a problem. Once Obama won, it became about spite, and Republicans are more than happy to let the country burn, because of their sheer, frothing hatred of Obama.

Also, no, the WH CAN'T pass a budget. That's the (REPUBLICAN controlled) House's job. And no, passing something loaded with "social conservative" poison-pills doesn't farking count.
 
2013-03-04 09:31:06 AM

Nishu: BillCo: Nishu: BillCo: When does the world end?  Have we started laying off teachers yet?  What about the TSA?

Come on, we need some drama, some major disaster.  Otherwise it just looks like Obama spent weeks scaring people.  Our Messiah wouldn't do that.

It's been 2 days since the bill was enacted. The money won't slow down until the end of this month and the furloughs don't happen until the end of April.

But, Obama said they would be immediate.  You're not saying he lied to us, are you?

I suppose if you are completely stupid and need to rely word for word on the word of a politician rather than looking up the information yourself, this might matter to you. It's never been a secret that the cuts would take time to implement. That has been the timeline since the date was pushed back with the last budget deal.


OK, so he did lie.  Thanks for the clarification.
 
2013-03-04 09:35:07 AM

Nishu: I'll tell you exactly what's going to happen. Republican are going to continue laughing this shiat off like it's funny. "They're not real cuts!" "This is like, half a half a half a percent of the budget!"  

And the conservative public will too, because those are the talking points they've been given. 

But people are going to lose their jobs or take pay cuts. The military is already being affected. Programs for the poor and unemployed are going to get shafted. And these things, they'll be slow to hit us. I've seen a lot of "The world didn't end" comments, because no one really knows how this is supposed to work. The money doesn't slow till the end of March, and the furloughs don't happen until the end of April. First we'll get the individual stories about how shiatty this is, and then they'll start to pile up. Then the economy will sputter, starting with the communities that have a large federal and/or military presence. Then we'll think, maybe this ain't so funny. 

As the reality starts to hit us and the average American starts to see how this is farked up, we'll stop talking about "sequester" and "budget cuts." It will become "austerity," and we'll start to ask ourselves whether we want to go down that path. Does it matter that this is not austerity? Nope. We'll lose patience with this bullshiat, and we'll suddenly remember that this isn't a natural consequence of a bloated budget, but a self imposed economic grounding. We'll demand an end to it, and at that time we'll be done with the idea of drastic cuts and austerity and all that bullshiat.

Does it matter that this was Obama's idea, as the republicans are so fond of saying? Why the hell would it? Obama is implementing our own mini-austerity and giving Americans a taste of the kind of drastic cuts that the Republicans want. Why would Obama have a problem taking the blame for it when the end result will be a shift in public opinion that favors his own world view? Republicans are banking on the idea that this s ...


Yep.  Obama tricked Republicans into uttering the words "devastating spending cuts".  That is the greatest accomplishment a Democratic politician has achieved during my lifetime.
 
2013-03-04 09:36:04 AM

BillCo: Nishu: BillCo: Nishu: BillCo: When does the world end?  Have we started laying off teachers yet?  What about the TSA?

Come on, we need some drama, some major disaster.  Otherwise it just looks like Obama spent weeks scaring people.  Our Messiah wouldn't do that.

It's been 2 days since the bill was enacted. The money won't slow down until the end of this month and the furloughs don't happen until the end of April.

But, Obama said they would be immediate.  You're not saying he lied to us, are you?

I suppose if you are completely stupid and need to rely word for word on the word of a politician rather than looking up the information yourself, this might matter to you. It's never been a secret that the cuts would take time to implement. That has been the timeline since the date was pushed back with the last budget deal.

OK, so he did lie.  Thanks for the clarification.




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2013-03-04 09:36:16 AM
LordJiro
Also, no, the WH CAN'T pass a budget. That's the (REPUBLICAN controlled) House's job. And no, passing something loaded with "social conservative" poison-pills doesn't farking count.

Nope.  Sorry, but you don't understand the Budget Resolution Process if you think the House of Representatives makes and passes a budget resolution.
Since 1974, it's all parties involved.

And BTW,  POTUS submitted HIS budget proposal in 2012....And it got ZERO votes in the Senate.  Not one single Senator from his own party would vote for it.

It shows how unserious he is about economic issues.

You know what he is good at ?    Campaigning.

Will WH rhetoric and deliberate falsehoods help this issue of sequestor.    Stand by as we find out.
 
2013-03-04 09:38:46 AM

netcentric: LordJiro
Also, no, the WH CAN'T pass a budget. That's the (REPUBLICAN controlled) House's job. And no, passing something loaded with "social conservative" poison-pills doesn't farking count.

Nope.  Sorry, but you don't understand the Budget Resolution Process if you think the House of Representatives makes and passes a budget resolution.
Since 1974, it's all parties involved.

And BTW,  POTUS submitted HIS budget proposal in 2012....And it got ZERO votes in the Senate.  Not one single Senator from his own party would vote for it.

It shows how unserious he is about economic issues.

You know what he is good at ?    Campaigning.

Will WH rhetoric and deliberate falsehoods help this issue of sequestor.    Stand by as we find out.


You really are frightfully ignorant about how our legislature works. It's almost disturbing.
 
2013-03-04 09:39:14 AM

neongoats: BillCo: When does the world end?  Have we started laying off teachers yet?  What about the TSA?

Come on, we need some drama, some major disaster.  Otherwise it just looks like Obama spent weeks scaring people.  Our Messiah wouldn't do that.

Can we just haul some nazi ovens out of storage for the TSA? Much better solution. But if those aren't available, I've been designing a human sized microwave.


You're too late.  The TSA already has human-sized microwaves.  They look like this:

static.onemansblog.com

Right now they're just testing them with the low-power emitters.

Soon, if the low-power "detector" finds a threat, the chamber will automatically lock, and the high-power "cooker" will activate, frying the terrorist instantly.
 
2013-03-04 09:40:26 AM

BillCo: Nishu: BillCo: Nishu: BillCo: When does the world end?  Have we started laying off teachers yet?  What about the TSA?

Come on, we need some drama, some major disaster.  Otherwise it just looks like Obama spent weeks scaring people.  Our Messiah wouldn't do that.

It's been 2 days since the bill was enacted. The money won't slow down until the end of this month and the furloughs don't happen until the end of April.

But, Obama said they would be immediate.  You're not saying he lied to us, are you?

I suppose if you are completely stupid and need to rely word for word on the word of a politician rather than looking up the information yourself, this might matter to you. It's never been a secret that the cuts would take time to implement. That has been the timeline since the date was pushed back with the last budget deal.

OK, so he did lie.  Thanks for the clarification.


I hope this doesn't dramatically change your worldview and make you lose all hope in humanity, the fact that a politician would lie to you. You seem to be pretty surprised by it.
 
2013-03-04 09:40:43 AM

Parthenogenetic: Soon, if the low-power "detector" finds a threat, the chamber will automatically lock, and the high-power "cooker" will activate, frying the terrorist instantly.


I prefer my terrorist basted with a vinegar based BBQ sauce over coals on a rotisserie and served with blue cheese.

Helps tame that curry flavor
 
2013-03-04 09:42:18 AM

netcentric: LordJiro
Also, no, the WH CAN'T pass a budget. That's the (REPUBLICAN controlled) House's job. And no, passing something loaded with "social conservative" poison-pills doesn't farking count.

Nope.  Sorry, but you don't understand the Budget Resolution Process if you think the House of Representatives makes and passes a budget resolution.
Since 1974, it's all parties involved.

And BTW,  POTUS submitted HIS budget proposal in 2012....And it got ZERO votes in the Senate.  Not one single Senator from his own party would vote for it.

It shows how unserious he is about economic issues.

You know what he is good at ?    Campaigning.

Will WH rhetoric and deliberate falsehoods help this issue of sequestor.    Stand by as we find out.


You do realize the presidential budget is what the executive branch wants and thinks is important, but Congress has zero responsibility to listen, right?

And all bills dealing with money originate in the House. That's in the farking Constitution.
 
2013-03-04 09:42:49 AM

MyKingdomForYourHorse: Parthenogenetic: Soon, if the low-power "detector" finds a threat, the chamber will automatically lock, and the high-power "cooker" will activate, frying the terrorist instantly.

I prefer my terrorist basted with a vinegar based BBQ sauce over coals on a rotisserie and served with blue cheese.

Helps tame that curry flavor


Which begs the question, could you microwave a terrorist so hot that even Jesus couldn't eat it?
 
2013-03-04 09:44:24 AM

qorkfiend: Generation_D: I don't see "Republican congressmen and women marched off to jail."

Which is historically how quite a few governments would have handled it.

The problem, of course, is that the followup would be "Democratic congressmen and women marched off to jail" next time there's a Republican president.


Which, given current Republican policies, is going to be just about never. Not til they quit being the jesus-hates-gays-but-loves-corporations-they-people party.
 
2013-03-04 09:45:25 AM

Summoner101: netcentric: LordJiro
Also, no, the WH CAN'T pass a budget. That's the (REPUBLICAN controlled) House's job. And no, passing something loaded with "social conservative" poison-pills doesn't farking count.

Nope.  Sorry, but you don't understand the Budget Resolution Process if you think the House of Representatives makes and passes a budget resolution.
Since 1974, it's all parties involved.

And BTW,  POTUS submitted HIS budget proposal in 2012....And it got ZERO votes in the Senate.  Not one single Senator from his own party would vote for it.

It shows how unserious he is about economic issues.

You know what he is good at ?    Campaigning.

Will WH rhetoric and deliberate falsehoods help this issue of sequestor.    Stand by as we find out.

You do realize the presidential budget is what the executive branch wants and thinks is important, but Congress has zero responsibility to listen, right?

And all bills dealing with money originate in the House. That's in the farking Constitution.


It wasn't even a real budget that they voted on. The republican senators made a rough draft based on the presidents recommendations and tossed it up for a vote. It was a show.
 
2013-03-04 09:54:17 AM

clane: somedude210: BillCo: When does the world end?  Have we started laying off teachers yet?  What about the TSA?

Come on, we need some drama, some major disaster.  Otherwise it just looks like Obama spent weeks scaring people.  Our Messiah wouldn't do that.

Remind me to smack you upside the head when I get my furlough notice later today

or you can live without 20% of your pay and tell me how it feels

/asshole

clane:
So we should employee people just because?  Bankrupt the country just because?
that's not how it works

/a**hole


More people working = more people with spending money = more money being spent = stronger economy. This isn't farking rocket science.

/Oh, and more people working = fewer people on 'the government teat'.
 
2013-03-04 09:55:13 AM

netcentric: LordJiro
Also, no, the WH CAN'T pass a budget. That's the (REPUBLICAN controlled) House's job. And no, passing something loaded with "social conservative" poison-pills doesn't farking count.

Nope.  Sorry, but you don't understand the Budget Resolution Process if you think the House of Representatives makes and passes a budget resolution.
Since 1974, it's all parties involved.

And BTW,  POTUS submitted HIS budget proposal in 2012....And it got ZERO votes in the Senate.  Not one single Senator from his own party would vote for it.

It shows how unserious he is about economic issues.

You know what he is good at ?    Campaigning.

Will WH rhetoric and deliberate falsehoods help this issue of sequestor.    Stand by as we find out.


Big O's budget was never voted upon in the Senate.  A Republican sponsored "budget" bearing his name was put forward for a vote and failed 99-0 because it was barely a budget at all.  It was a 56 page cover letter of a budget and was voted down.


http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/05/house-and-senate-unanim ou sly-reject-obama-budgets-or-do-they/
 
2013-03-04 10:06:12 AM

BillCo: Nishu: BillCo: When does the world end?  Have we started laying off teachers yet?  What about the TSA?

Come on, we need some drama, some major disaster.  Otherwise it just looks like Obama spent weeks scaring people.  Our Messiah wouldn't do that.

It's been 2 days since the bill was enacted. The money won't slow down until the end of this month and the furloughs don't happen until the end of April.

But, Obama said they would be immediate.  You're not saying he lied to us, are you?


You have GOT to be a liberal.  There is no way anyone could so actively work for the destruction of their own viewpoint.  You're relentless.
 
2013-03-04 10:16:43 AM

BillCo: When does the world end?  Have we started laying off teachers yet?  What about the TSA?

Come on, we need some drama, some major disaster.  Otherwise it just looks like Obama spent weeks scaring people.  Our Messiah wouldn't do that.


2/10.  Need to step up your game there...or did you go the way of Romney?
 
2013-03-04 10:18:06 AM
WH got its tax hikes. Now it's time to cut spending.

....bottom line

/do it.
 
2013-03-04 10:24:43 AM

netcentric: Now it's time to cut spending.


Already done. Budget Control Act.
 
2013-03-04 10:25:07 AM

BillCo: When does the world end?  Have we started laying off teachers yet?  What about the TSA?

Come on, we need some drama, some major disaster.  Otherwise it just looks like Obama spent weeks scaring people.  Our Messiah wouldn't do that.


Where I live, the major employer is Wright Patterson Air Force Base. Civilian engineers at the base have been given notice that they will be furloughed starting in April. Defense contractors will be cutting hours this month, and layoffs are expected in April. None of these people seem too fond of John Boehner right now, and they are getting less happy as they heard Republican spokes people talking about being happy with the sequester and making the cuts permanent. And this is in John Boehner's district.

2014 will be an interesting election.
 
2013-03-04 10:26:34 AM

LordJiro: clane: somedude210: BillCo: When does the world end?  Have we started laying off teachers yet?  What about the TSA?

Come on, we need some drama, some major disaster.  Otherwise it just looks like Obama spent weeks scaring people.  Our Messiah wouldn't do that.

Remind me to smack you upside the head when I get my furlough notice later today

or you can live without 20% of your pay and tell me how it feels

/asshole

clane:
So we should employee people just because?  Bankrupt the country just because?
that's not how it works

/a**hole

More people working = more people with spending money = more money being spent = stronger economy. This isn't farking rocket science.

/Oh, and more people working = fewer people on 'the government teat'.


Apparently his level of intelligence doesn't go that far...
 
2013-03-04 10:27:39 AM

clane: Rwa2play: clane: somedude210: BillCo: When does the world end?  Have we started laying off teachers yet?  What about the TSA?

Come on, we need some drama, some major disaster.  Otherwise it just looks like Obama spent weeks scaring people.  Our Messiah wouldn't do that.

Remind me to smack you upside the head when I get my furlough notice later today

or you can live without 20% of your pay and tell me how it feels

/asshole

clane:
So we should employee people just because?  Bankrupt the country just because?
that's not how it works

/a**hole

Let's see: employed people = they spend their money to help bolster the economy.

I wanna say you're ignorant...but you're too much of a troll to be ignorant

/dimwit

clane:
Your a Genius!  this is why we should have to take a test to vote.


And we know know why you failed that test...
 
2013-03-04 10:32:22 AM

DeaH: BillCo: When does the world end?  Have we started laying off teachers yet?  What about the TSA?

Come on, we need some drama, some major disaster.  Otherwise it just looks like Obama spent weeks scaring people.  Our Messiah wouldn't do that.

Where I live, the major employer is Wright Patterson Air Force Base. Civilian engineers at the base have been given notice that they will be furloughed starting in April. Defense contractors will be cutting hours this month, and layoffs are expected in April. None of these people seem too fond of John Boehner right now, and they are getting less happy as they heard Republican spokes people talking about being happy with the sequester and making the cuts permanent. And this is in John Boehner's district.

2014 will be an interesting election.

 
Anyone who doesn't think this will hurt our economy is both 1) fortunate not to be close to the cuts and 2) stupid.
 
2013-03-04 10:32:29 AM

clane: clane:
Your a Genius! this is why we should have to take a test to vote.


because voting rights are only for those elitist professors, right?
 
2013-03-04 10:32:31 AM
I'm a betting man, so I'll put $50 on the "Puppies and Unicorns" option. It's like betting on the Generals over the Globetrotters - they're due for a victory!
 
2013-03-04 10:44:07 AM

Nishu: Anyone who doesn't think this will hurt our economy is both 1) fortunate not to be close to the cuts and 2) stupid.


GOP is hoping they can blame the slowdown and hurt on Obama and the Democrats in 2014 thus hopefully winning back the Senate and setting them up for a strong coat tail effect in 2016.

But the majority of people are realizing that's bullshiat and in general disagree with everything the GOP stands on. Add to that they plan on running morons that will pull a Todd Akin (read Steve King for senate) and what it does is setup a midterm election year that may buck historical trends.

And whoa nelly, if Clinton runs in 2016 the GOP might as well forget about seeing Pennsylvania Ave for the next decade.
 
2013-03-04 10:45:25 AM

Nishu: The republicans are clearly going to lose this. Clearly. The best thing they can do is to give Obama a small win at the beginning and stop this from continuing. I really think this will be Obama's coup de grace.


The Democratic party maybe. But Obama is done, there is no way we will be electing him again in 2016.
-grin-
 
2013-03-04 10:51:22 AM

MyKingdomForYourHorse: Nishu: Anyone who doesn't think this will hurt our economy is both 1) fortunate not to be close to the cuts and 2) stupid.

GOP is hoping they can blame the slowdown and hurt on Obama and the Democrats in 2014 thus hopefully winning back the Senate and setting them up for a strong coat tail effect in 2016.

But the majority of people are realizing that's bullshiat and in general disagree with everything the GOP stands on. Add to that they plan on running morons that will pull a Todd Akin (read Steve King for senate) and what it does is setup a midterm election year that may buck historical trends.

And whoa nelly, if Clinton runs in 2016 the GOP might as well forget about seeing Pennsylvania Ave for the next decade.


They're primarily hoping there will be no slow down, but if there is, they can blame it on Obama. I think more of them are realizing at this point there will be a slowdown and they're still banking on Obama getting blamed for it. 

The problem is, and this is what they're too stupid to realize, that blaming budget cuts for an economic slowdown is going to be shooting themselves in the foot.
 
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