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2013-03-04 12:27:10 PM

Wrencher: Not a problem for me. I have GPS off on both FB and the phone. Maybe that's why the app crashes every 10 mins...


Having it disabled via the app isn't enough, it still polls whenever it fetches updates. Disabling location services in the FB app only disables GPS for messaging, NOT for the app in general. I've sat there with a logcat window scrolling GPS attempts from the app while it randomly attempts to get a GPS lock. Pretty ridiculous.

Of course, disabling GPS entirely for your phone obviously works, but then you gotta either use tasker to whitelist apps or remember to re-enable when you want something to use it.

And I would bet you are correct, having GPS disabled is probably what's causing it to crash. I would wager they probably don't bother to verify it's enabled before attempt to access the resource.
 
2013-03-04 12:42:56 PM

YodaBlues: Wrencher: Not a problem for me. I have GPS off on both FB and the phone. Maybe that's why the app crashes every 10 mins...

Having it disabled via the app isn't enough, it still polls whenever it fetches updates. Disabling location services in the FB app only disables GPS for messaging, NOT for the app in general. I've sat there with a logcat window scrolling GPS attempts from the app while it randomly attempts to get a GPS lock. Pretty ridiculous.

Of course, disabling GPS entirely for your phone obviously works, but then you gotta either use tasker to whitelist apps or remember to re-enable when you want something to use it.

And I would bet you are correct, having GPS disabled is probably what's causing it to crash. I would wager they probably don't bother to verify it's enabled before attempt to access the resource.


I have a cool little task bar that lets me toggle Wi-Fi, GPS, Bluetooth and syncing on & off and adjust screen brightness.
 
2013-03-04 12:52:52 PM

Wrencher: YodaBlues: Wrencher: Not a problem for me. I have GPS off on both FB and the phone. Maybe that's why the app crashes every 10 mins...

Having it disabled via the app isn't enough, it still polls whenever it fetches updates. Disabling location services in the FB app only disables GPS for messaging, NOT for the app in general. I've sat there with a logcat window scrolling GPS attempts from the app while it randomly attempts to get a GPS lock. Pretty ridiculous.

Of course, disabling GPS entirely for your phone obviously works, but then you gotta either use tasker to whitelist apps or remember to re-enable when you want something to use it.

And I would bet you are correct, having GPS disabled is probably what's causing it to crash. I would wager they probably don't bother to verify it's enabled before attempt to access the resource.

I have a cool little task bar that lets me toggle Wi-Fi, GPS, Bluetooth and syncing on & off and adjust screen brightness.


On iPhones you can disable GPS access to each app from the OS level (i.e. the first time the app runs it has to prompt you, and afterwards there's a toggle in the settings).  Do you Androidies not have something like that?
 
2013-03-04 01:06:29 PM

Wrencher: I have a cool little task bar that lets me toggle Wi-Fi, GPS, Bluetooth and syncing on & off and adjust screen brightness.


Yeah, I have the same thing (running CyanogenMod 10), I just forget I can add the GPS toggle to it.

serial_crusher: On iPhones you can disable GPS access to each app from the OS level (i.e. the first time the app runs it has to prompt you, and afterwards there's a toggle in the settings).  Do you Androidies not have something like that?


No, application permissions (like gps location, read phone state, etc etc ) are granted when you install the app. There are some 3rd-party apps that can disallow certain permissions on an app-by-app basis, but they require root access and none of them work currently for Android 4.2.
 
2013-03-04 01:27:56 PM

serial_crusher: Wrencher: YodaBlues: Wrencher: Not a problem for me. I have GPS off on both FB and the phone. Maybe that's why the app crashes every 10 mins...

Having it disabled via the app isn't enough, it still polls whenever it fetches updates. Disabling location services in the FB app only disables GPS for messaging, NOT for the app in general. I've sat there with a logcat window scrolling GPS attempts from the app while it randomly attempts to get a GPS lock. Pretty ridiculous.

Of course, disabling GPS entirely for your phone obviously works, but then you gotta either use tasker to whitelist apps or remember to re-enable when you want something to use it.

And I would bet you are correct, having GPS disabled is probably what's causing it to crash. I would wager they probably don't bother to verify it's enabled before attempt to access the resource.

I have a cool little task bar that lets me toggle Wi-Fi, GPS, Bluetooth and syncing on & off and adjust screen brightness.

On iPhones you can disable GPS access to each app from the OS level (i.e. the first time the app runs it has to prompt you, and afterwards there's a toggle in the settings).  Do you Androidies not have something like that?


Yeah. But i don't have any apps I need GPS for. I always know where I am.
 
2013-03-04 01:29:14 PM

BHShaman: djscram: The "Facebook-is-about-to-die" worshipers have become nearly as mainstream as the cult of "email is about to die."

What is this "email" of which you speak?


Yeah, probably the same people who keep insistign that pc's are dead.

Actually these days I use Facebook instead of Email for 90% of my communications.
 
2013-03-04 01:37:10 PM

YodaBlues: Wrencher: I have a cool little task bar that lets me toggle Wi-Fi, GPS, Bluetooth and syncing on & off and adjust screen brightness.

Yeah, I have the same thing (running CyanogenMod 10), I just forget I can add the GPS toggle to it.

serial_crusher: On iPhones you can disable GPS access to each app from the OS level (i.e. the first time the app runs it has to prompt you, and afterwards there's a toggle in the settings).  Do you Androidies not have something like that?

No, application permissions (like gps location, read phone state, etc etc ) are granted when you install the app. There are some 3rd-party apps that can disallow certain permissions on an app-by-app basis, but they require root access and none of them work currently for Android 4.2.


Some have toggles in the settings. Google Sky does.
 
2013-03-04 01:37:12 PM

serial_crusher: digistil: Hanky: I would hate to see it, but a really great property for FB to purchase (if it could) would be Fark.

The one great thing would be a sudden lack of trolls, as FB would likely require a FB account for login (which are publicly linked).

You overestimate the amount of shame people have (and underestimate how easy it is to create fake Facebook accounts.  If you don't believe me, I'll have my friends Shre Dder and Dino Saucer reach out to you...)


The only difference is that people have to accept the 'friendship' of those people and most don't take joke profiles too seriously.  The rest of the internet is for troll profiles, Facebook is all too easy to hide or delete trolls forever.
 
2013-03-04 01:58:29 PM

Karne: serial_crusher: digistil: Hanky: I would hate to see it, but a really great property for FB to purchase (if it could) would be Fark.

The one great thing would be a sudden lack of trolls, as FB would likely require a FB account for login (which are publicly linked).

You overestimate the amount of shame people have (and underestimate how easy it is to create fake Facebook accounts.  If you don't believe me, I'll have my friends Shre Dder and Dino Saucer reach out to you...)

The only difference is that people have to accept the 'friendship' of those people and most don't take joke profiles too seriously.  The rest of the internet is for troll profiles, Facebook is all too easy to hide or delete trolls forever.


Well, not if they bought out fark.  I mean, unless you wanted to only show Fark comments from your friends, but I thought people only did that in politics threads?
 
2013-03-04 02:14:10 PM

serial_crusher: Karne: serial_crusher: digistil: Hanky: I would hate to see it, but a really great property for FB to purchase (if it could) would be Fark.

The one great thing would be a sudden lack of trolls, as FB would likely require a FB account for login (which are publicly linked).

You overestimate the amount of shame people have (and underestimate how easy it is to create fake Facebook accounts.  If you don't believe me, I'll have my friends Shre Dder and Dino Saucer reach out to you...)

The only difference is that people have to accept the 'friendship' of those people and most don't take joke profiles too seriously.  The rest of the internet is for troll profiles, Facebook is all too easy to hide or delete trolls forever.

Well, not if they bought out fark.  I mean, unless you wanted to only show Fark comments from your friends, but I thought people only did that in politics threads?


Oops, read that wrong, sorry.  Yeah, the two worlds should (and will) stay far apart.  Facebook is for being real with people as actual humans with repercussions, and Fark is for letting all of your hatred and anger out in a anonymous forum.
 
2013-03-04 06:21:59 PM
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2013-03-04 08:37:17 PM

Wrencher: serial_crusher: Wrencher: YodaBlues: Wrencher: Not a problem for me. I have GPS off on both FB and the phone. Maybe that's why the app crashes every 10 mins...

Having it disabled via the app isn't enough, it still polls whenever it fetches updates. Disabling location services in the FB app only disables GPS for messaging, NOT for the app in general. I've sat there with a logcat window scrolling GPS attempts from the app while it randomly attempts to get a GPS lock. Pretty ridiculous.

Of course, disabling GPS entirely for your phone obviously works, but then you gotta either use tasker to whitelist apps or remember to re-enable when you want something to use it.

And I would bet you are correct, having GPS disabled is probably what's causing it to crash. I would wager they probably don't bother to verify it's enabled before attempt to access the resource.

I have a cool little task bar that lets me toggle Wi-Fi, GPS, Bluetooth and syncing on & off and adjust screen brightness.

On iPhones you can disable GPS access to each app from the OS level (i.e. the first time the app runs it has to prompt you, and afterwards there's a toggle in the settings).  Do you Androidies not have something like that?

Yeah. But i don't have any apps I need GPS for. I always know where I am.



No, I don't know where I'm going
But, I sure know where I've been
Hanging on the promises
In songs of yesterday
An' I've made up my mind,
I ain't wasting no more time
Here I go again
Here I go again
 
2013-03-05 02:09:49 AM

ZeroCorpse: It's a simple, oft-repeated cycle:

Teens find something, deem it cool, then use it a lot.

Parents find thing teens are using, think "If teens use it, it must be cool, so if I use it, it will make ME cool!" then use it a lot.

Teens realize old people are using their cool thing. Thing becomes uncool. Teens move on so they can get privacy and not be associated with old people. Thing is considered "ruined" by influx of non-teens.

Repeat ad nauseum.


You left out "commercialization."
 
2013-03-05 02:17:39 AM

Wellon Dowd: [i.dailymail.co.uk image 634x514]
Younger people are now looking for more intimate methods of communication online

"Intimate" and "online" are mutually exclusive.


I boarded a light rail train ahead of a teenie who was obsessively texting.  She sat down next to me.  Another teenie sat down opposite us, equally absorbed in texting.  Two stops later, both stood up simultaneously, causing them to look at each other.  One cried,

"OMG!  I was just texting you!"

I lol'ed and said, "You two really need to put those things down!"
 
2013-03-05 06:08:03 AM
Part of it may be this new scheme charging for things like sending private messages to those you're not friends with.
 
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