Marine1: And this... this is why I can't stand the city of San Fransisco.Are there other cities that are as bad or worse? Of course. None are as pretentious as San Fransisco.
JerkyMeat: Marine1: And this... this is why I can't stand the city of San Fransisco.Are there other cities that are as bad or worse? Of course. None are as pretentious as San Fransisco....and the city doesn't need you either ..bu by. Cya hate to be ya.
freewill: 504_King_streetcar: Not in the Yew Ess Of Ay, where survival of the fittest is the order of the day. Can't have no retards getting mollycoddled, no sir. Make them get out there and fight for their daily bread like everyone else, that's the 'Murikan way. If they can't do that because the world is just a mad blur to them, why, it's their fault for not being loved enough by Gawd.The liberal side of this is that we can't detain these misunderstood individuals just because they're a little different. The humane thing to do is let them go on and walk the streets freely, even if it means that half of them will eventually abandon treatment and freeze to death in a ditch full of used needles or end up shot by the cops after they try to shove somebody in front of a subway train. A life of confusion and terror is a civil right guaranteed by the Constitution. Verily, it is a bipartisan shiatpie.
Marine1: If you go through life or existence refusing to accept the criticism of others as constructive, you'll meet ruin.
Scrotastic Method: Marine1: If you go through life or existence refusing to accept the criticism of others as constructive, you'll meet ruin.Yet you knock SF as "pretentious." You're pretending to be literate with that Midwestern-shopping-mall-Auntie-Anne's-pretzel of a sentence, your profile indicates you're not actually a Marine, and the "criticism" you so helpfully offered was a mis-applied insult.Also, all human existence is life. Not "or."It's not that SF is full of "pretentious" farkers that do something wrong. It's that you're a farking goof, and the kind of people that live in SF are the kind of people that realize it.
Happy Hours: xanadian: Pork or beef tenderloin?I prefer a good chuck roast myself, though...Yeah, what the fark is Tenderloin in the context of the headline?I think it's a part of San Francisco, but I'm not sure. I just happen to know that - or think I know that, but I'm not sure. I'm guessing from the headline it's not a very good part of SF. Come to think of it, I'm not sure there are any good parts of SF. I've heard of Tenderloin (where people show up dead or murdered), Castro (where the gay people live NTTAWWT) and the Mission district ("walkin' along in the Mission, in the rain) where some guy missing part of his finger grew up, but I hear that's not a great place either./never been to Frisco, obviously - and I call it Frisco because I gather it pisses off the people who actually live in SF. (and it's shorter)
Smelly Pirate Hooker: Looking forward to the "social worker fired for giving interview about her work" story a couple days from now.
onyxruby: If your not mentally stable enough to own a gun, you shouldn't be on the street to begin with.
jpk_ks: Something does need to be done about how to take care of the truly mentally ill and disabled. In my state (Kansas) funding was cut a few years ago for group homes. Now, between the hours of 9AM and 3PM, everyone living in a KS sponsored group home has to leave since there will be no nurse on site to help watch everyone. Regardless of weather. Or level of care needed. Period.The governor that approved that cut - Kathleen Sebielius. Even if Sam Brownback (R) had done it, I'd still consider it wrong.
GranoblasticMan: I'd argue that I'm not mentally stable enough to own a gun (couldn't anyway; I've been involuntarily institutionalized)
Kahabut: Also, people from there say "hella" which I think is funny.
Scrotastic Method: Kahabut: Also, people from there say "hella" which I think is funny.Before I moved out here I knew musicians from the Bay Area, they'd come to where I grew up, we'd hang, they'd say hella, and I'd laugh in their face. After 8-ish years of living here...I can't stop saying it myself. It's a perfectly cromulent word.
Cold_Sassy: MrSteve007: There was a time when most of these people were institutionalized:[www.richardavedon.com image 850x519]While there certainly were many abuses and problems with the old system, it seems better than letting the disturbed, psychotic, or mentally inept wander the streets, begging for handouts, and dying in the cold. Instead of confronting the problem, we choose to look away and ignore it.[static.igossip.com image 550x440][teamowens313.files.wordpress.com image 620x408]As a society, we hardly blink an eye when we spend hundreds of billions to bomb other nations, yet we can't provide basic care for those who can't take care of themselves. We can do better.Wow, that last picture is heartbreaking.
stonent: Yeah, so where are all the "legalize drugs" cheerleaders now?
Generation_D: And this is exhibit A of "Why do we keep trying to help them?"We shouldn't.
Generation_D: Why are people who won't save themselves worth saving?
onyxruby: You hit on my point, community based mental health care is a complete and epic failure.
orbister: Community based mental health care can work - if it's properly resourced, and that's expensive. Unfortunately the move away from institutional care is almost always driven by a desire to save money, not by a desire to provide better care.
GranoblasticMan: What a social worker might look like:[i.imgur.com image 598x429]
lack of warmth: SubBass49: If you think this was depressing, try being a public school teacher that serves a neighborhood like that. Then imagine that these same people are the "parents" of the children you teach, and that sometimes the kids fall down that mineshaft of human existence right alongside them.(have already caught 3 kids dealing drugs this school year in my classroom)And with that I'm off to work!Oh woe is you, since you are the one who follows up with home visits and the like. No, oh that is right teachers call social workers and the police to take over. Chances are, you're only guessing about their home life since you haven't actually seen it. I had a teacher make a false call on me once, the CPS worker was surprised to see our house was clean and nice. It's nice not having my kids around judgmental educators anymore.(even upscale areas having drug dealing in schools)
Bomb Mecca: It's a shame Hitler ruined the idea of a final solution to the schizo/crackhead/vagrant problem.
silvervial: Cold_Sassy: MrSteve007: There was a time when most of these people were institutionalized:[www.richardavedon.com image 850x519]While there certainly were many abuses and problems with the old system, it seems better than letting the disturbed, psychotic, or mentally inept wander the streets, begging for handouts, and dying in the cold. Instead of confronting the problem, we choose to look away and ignore it.[static.igossip.com image 550x440][teamowens313.files.wordpress.com image 620x408]As a society, we hardly blink an eye when we spend hundreds of billions to bomb other nations, yet we can't provide basic care for those who can't take care of themselves. We can do better.Wow, that last picture is heartbreaking.I know! Did he get...paved over??? I'm not sure what I'm seeing...
Scrotastic Method: Good lord. You want to compare people donating to their church in Tulsa to people in SF time and again voting to divert substantial tax money to social programs? What's the homelessness rate in middle-of-nowhere Missouri? Oklahoma?You really think Union Square is the only tourist destination that attracts beggars?SF attracts more homeless than any other city in the US -- possibly the world. We spend more money on it than any other city in the US -- possibly the world. People like the author of this article are the boots on the ground. But she's a band-aid on a bullet wound.I'm sorry you had a bad time because some smelly guy got in your way when you came out of Cheescake Factory. But you're probably the type that should have stayed in Missouri, playing your video game, pretending that makes you a soldier.
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