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2013-03-03 10:34:15 PM
You know there is no Pope right now.
 
2013-03-03 10:47:16 PM
"To those I have offended, I apologize and ask forgiveness."

You didn't just offend them, dickhead.  You didn't say something rude at a party.
 
2013-03-03 11:58:31 PM

Relatively Obscure: "To those I have offended, I apologize and ask forgiveness."

You didn't just offend them, dickhead.  You didn't say something rude at a party.


He thinks that as long as he asks for forgiveness, everything is OK.  And while that might make God happy - well, you raped some kids, but you asked for forgiveness, so everything is good - it's incredibly infuriating to anyone sane.
 
2013-03-04 12:00:13 AM

feckingmorons: You know there is no Pope right now.


this. and...

"I wish to take this opportunity to admit that there have been times that my sexual conduct has fallen below the standards expected of me as a priest, archbishop and cardinal,"

CELIBACY was hard to understand, really? REALLY?
 
2013-03-04 12:04:34 AM

sno man: feckingmorons: You know there is no Pope right now.

this. and...

"I wish to take this opportunity to admit that there have been times that my sexual conduct has fallen below the standards expected of me as a priest, archbishop and cardinal,"

CELIBACY was hard to understand, really? REALLY?


He resigned on Feb 11, while Palpatine was still Pope.  And surprisingly, it looks like he didn't fark any kids, or at least that isn't what got out.  He just farked guys who wanted to be priests.
 
2013-03-04 12:35:41 AM

GAT_00: He just farked guys who wanted to be priests.


He missed his calling as a movie producer.
 
2013-03-04 02:00:19 AM
"I wish to take this opportunity to admit that there have been times that my sexual conduct has fallen below the standards expected of me as a priest, archbishop and cardinal,"

Not below the standards *I* expected!
 
2013-03-04 05:09:12 AM
His problem is that his "sexual conduct" appears to have been confined to other adults. Had it been kids, the Church would have been fine with it.
 
2013-03-04 05:32:27 AM
As per usual, the word "defrocked" appeared nowhere in the article.
 
2013-03-04 05:38:41 AM
It's never too late to do the right thing, Ratzinger.
 
2013-03-04 05:40:08 AM
Better to be dismissed as a homosexual than prosecuted as a child molestor.
Time for this guy to disappear.
 
2013-03-04 05:40:45 AM
They should just change the Holy Document of Vatican Law to allow priests to marry.
 
2013-03-04 05:51:40 AM

Relatively Obscure: "To those I have offended, I apologize and ask forgiveness."

You didn't just offend them, dickhead.  You didn't say something rude at a party.


"Offended" is probably Scots for "forcibly sodomized".
 
2013-03-04 05:52:36 AM

Valiente: "Offended" is probably Scots for "forcibly sodomized".


It is a bit of a faux pas.
 
2013-03-04 05:53:06 AM
"In recent days certain allegations which have been made against me have become public. Initially, their anonymous and non-specific nature led me to contest them," O'Brien said

Oh wait, you me, THOSE homosexual advances? Thank you for the clarification. I just wasn't certain which homosexual advances you were talking about when you first said that I was hitting on priest. There were just so many, it's hard to keep them all straight.
 
2013-03-04 05:55:05 AM
 If he had just stuck to sheep like the rest of the Scots, there would be no controversy..
 
2013-03-04 06:00:56 AM

serial_crusher: They should just change the Holy Document of Vatican Law to allow priests to marry.


They can't just change the Holy Document of Vatican Law!

On another note, I'm not sure if the cardinal's resignation was taken early as enforcement of punishment for his conduct, or if the forced early resignation is punishment for admitting to said conduct.
 
2013-03-04 06:01:53 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: It's never too late to do the right thing, Ratzinger.


This guy has been hunting down sexual predators in the Church for a very long time. This is something he took it upon himself to do, not something he was forced to do.
 
2013-03-04 06:02:44 AM
It would have been awesome if the then-Pope had cleaned house on his way out the door.  First he issues any changes necessary to do so under canon law, then he says "by my order as Supreme Pontiff, any cleric who has committed [insert list of crimes] is hereby dismissed from the clerical state and all rights, powers, offices, roles, and delegated power in the Church, and is excommunicated from the Church.  The power to modify the effects of this order on any person is expressly reserved to the Apostolic See."  I'm sure there's a Farker out there with a GED in canon law to clean this up,

Maybe there would be a little more elbow room at the conclave.
 
2013-03-04 06:02:51 AM
...he later held various positions -- including as a math and science teacher, as well as rector and spiritual director...

Shouldn't that be rectHIM?
 
2013-03-04 06:03:11 AM

RedT: "In recent days certain allegations which have been made against me have become public. Initially, their anonymous and non-specific nature led me to contest them," O'Brien said

Oh wait, you me, THOSE homosexual advances? Thank you for the clarification. I just wasn't certain which homosexual advances you were talking about when you first said that I was hitting on priest. There were just so many, it's hard to keep them all straight.


That is quite the opposite of what he wanted, actually.
 
2013-03-04 06:08:24 AM
He's wearing a pair of those new Google Glasses
 
2013-03-04 06:10:30 AM
What the hell does "inappropriate behavior" mean? Did he proposition other priests, did he have consensual sex with them or did he actually sexually abuse them?

If it's the first two; meh. It's pretty shady because he's in a position of power over them, but it's about a billion times less wrong than child abuse.
 
2013-03-04 06:34:13 AM

RedT: "In recent days certain allegations which have been made against me have become public. Initially, their anonymous and non-specific nature led me to contest them," O'Brien said

Oh wait, you mean, THOSE homosexual advances? Thank you for the clarification. I just wasn't certain which homosexual advances you were talking about when you first said that I was hitting on priests. There were just so many, it's hard to keep them all straight.


This. I had the same WTF? moment when I read that. But hey, let's be reasonable here, you can't expect him to go admitting to all of his attempted rapes without knowing which ones the witnesses will come forward over.
 
mjg
2013-03-04 06:44:15 AM
The Catholic Church = protect the Church, not the victims.

/should be in Latin
 
2013-03-04 06:48:25 AM
disgusting.
 
2013-03-04 06:51:56 AM

RedT: "In recent days certain allegations which have been made against me have become public. Initially, their anonymous and non-specific nature led me to contest them," O'Brien said

Oh wait, you me, THOSE homosexual advances? Thank you for the clarification. I just wasn't certain which homosexual advances you were talking about when you first said that I was hitting on priest. There were just so many, it's hard to keep them all straight.


Came for this. Leaving happy.

//"There are so many men and boys I've raped, you have to be specific!"
 
2013-03-04 06:59:32 AM

Relatively Obscure: "To those I have offended, I apologize and ask forgiveness."

You didn't just offend them, dickhead.  You didn't say something rude at a party.


I wonder if he also wants to include all the people who were really very offended when he said;
The empirical evidence is clear, same-sex relationships are demonstrably harmful to the medical, emotional and spiritual wellbeing of those involved, no compassionate society should ever enact legislation to facilitate or promote such relationships, we have failed those who struggle with same-sex attraction and wider society by our actions.
 
2013-03-04 07:05:40 AM

Relatively Obscure: "To those I have offended, I apologize and ask forgiveness."

You didn't just offend them, dickhead.  You didn't say something rude at a party.


"Look, I'm sorry if you found my cock up your ass offensive, but you just need to get over it!"
 
2013-03-04 07:07:16 AM

Baron Harkonnen: AverageAmericanGuy: It's never too late to do the right thing, Ratzinger.

This guy has been hunting down sexual predators in the Church for a very long time. This is something he took it upon himself to do, not something he was forced to do.


Has the reputation rehabilitation of Benedict already started? That was quick.
 
2013-03-04 07:09:24 AM
If you apologize it's OK right?  Does it go something like this?  "Sorry, but I'm going to stick my dick into your ass."?
 
2013-03-04 07:13:57 AM
Rectum ?
Damn near killed him.
 
2013-03-04 07:25:15 AM
Ratburger forgive me for I've sinned...
"WTF consensual?? With an adult? Keith I am disappoint!"
 
2013-03-04 07:42:42 AM
If the catholic church would eliminate the vows as requirements for priests/nuns I honestly think 80 - 90% of this would be fixed.  The other 10% would be in jail.... but most of the problem would be fixed.
 
2013-03-04 07:46:34 AM

Baron Harkonnen: AverageAmericanGuy: It's never too late to do the right thing, Ratzinger.

This guy has been hunting down sexual predators in the Church for a very long time. This is something he took it upon himself to do, not something he was forced to do.


Oh, you'd better have a citation for that one
 
2013-03-04 07:49:19 AM
GAT_00:
He resigned on Feb 11, while Palpatine was still Pope.

FTFA:
O'Brien told Pope Benedict XVI in November that he would resign effective his upcoming birthday, on March 17. But Benedict decided to make the resignation effective immediately in light of the pope's imminent resignation, the Scottish Catholic Media Office said.

So, Popo knew about this for three months, and is just now acting on it. Is he looking to be the new head coach for Penn State or something?
 
2013-03-04 07:49:22 AM

phlatulence: Ratburger forgive me for I've sinned...
"WTF consensual?? With an adult? Keith I am disappoint!"


From what the accusers said it wasn't very consensual
 
2013-03-04 07:52:57 AM

offacue: If you apologize it's OK right?  Does it go something like this?  "Sorry, but I'm going to stick my dick into your ass."?


It's just a question of how many hail Mary's you have to do
 
2013-03-04 08:00:52 AM
It's worth noting this jackass got Stonewall's 'Bigot Of The Year' award last year after 'its 10,000 members had voted "decisively" to give the title to O'Brien after he described gay marriage as a "grotesque subversion" of the traditions of marriage and likened it to slavery. The cardinal called it an "aberration" and claimed it might clear the way for polygamous marriages and would cause "further degeneration of society into immorality".' [source]
 
2013-03-04 08:10:30 AM

Baron Harkonnen: AverageAmericanGuy: It's never too late to do the right thing, Ratzinger.

This guy has been hunting down sexual predators in the Church for a very long time. This is something he took it upon himself to do, not something he was forced to do.


Define "hunting down sexual preditors". Yes, Benedict XVI personally asked John Paul II to redirect all sexual abuse by priest cases to his office at the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith back in 2001. However, one of his first acts was to send out a letter to every bishop on 5/18/2001 instructing them that while sexual molestation is a sin it is also sinful to contact local authorities to report lapses of moral judgement on the part of priests, instead saying all such crimes should be reported to his office and that they would handle the matter appropriately. Some people see it as him taking ownership of the issue, while other people see it as intentionally encouraging the coverup of sexual abuse cases by centralizing response to protect those priests who did it. Nobody can point to any cases where someone was defrocked before a secular source revealed that abuse was happening so far as I know.
 
2013-03-04 08:10:51 AM

You'd turn it off when I was halfway across: Relatively Obscure: "To those I have offended, I apologize and ask forgiveness."

You didn't just offend them, dickhead.  You didn't say something rude at a party.

I wonder if he also wants to include all the people who were really very offended when he said;
The empirical evidence is clear, same-sex relationships are demonstrably harmful to the medical, emotional and spiritual wellbeing of those involved, no compassionate society should ever enact legislation to facilitate or promote such relationships, we have failed those who struggle with same-sex attraction and wider society by our actions.


I wonder if religion (or a particular one) had scientific evidence that they were demonstrably harmful to the medical, emotional and spiritual wellbeing of those involved that he would suggest government should enact legislation against those practises?
 
2013-03-04 08:14:10 AM
This is just the beginning. If you think the Pope resigned for "health reasons" I've got a bridge to sell you. The Vatican is one big sausage fest, with sausages going in and out of various body openings constantly.
 
2013-03-04 08:16:25 AM
did no one catch teh gem about the italian male whores blackmailing the entire vatican in italy ? that might a reason to resign...
 
2013-03-04 08:20:16 AM

incendi: Valiente: "Offended" is probably Scots for "forcibly sodomized".

It is a bit of a faux pas.


At least a pain in the a$$.
 
ecl
2013-03-04 08:25:00 AM

Walker: This is just the beginning. If you think the Pope resigned for "health reasons" I've got a bridge to sell you. The Vatican is one big sausage fest, with sausages going in and out of various body openings constantly.


It's worse than Vienna during "Sauage Days".
 
2013-03-04 08:25:18 AM

feckingmorons


You know there is no Pope right now.


Actually, during times like this, there is a Pope. Nowadays, he's the RoboPope and he can perform most of the basic functions of the living Pope. Before technology, he was a wind up Pope that could only bless the masses or later, with the exchanging of some gears, direct traffic in Vatican Square.

Directing traffic was a responsibility that prior Popes had. They don't do have to do it anymore. Vatican Square was also a pretty busy street and people bringing goods to market would often cause traffic jams with their wagons trying to get through. One day, Pope Pius O'Flannerly the First was watching the crowds when a wagon load of meatballs (spicy) and the :14 Pasta Express Wagon met at the intersection. Each wagon tried to go through but was stopped by the other. A shouting match began and neither side was willing to budge. The pope yelled down from his window "Hey-a. Yousa Boys should-a letta the meat-ball a-wagon go! He was-a there a-first. I a-saw ti a-all fromma uppa here-a!" To which the drive of the Pasta Express wagon yelled back "Who do you-a thinka you -are? Da Pope?" The pope replied "A-yeah. I ama da Pope. Whaddaya thinka of that-a?" And the pasta wagon uy replied "Well, if-a you are da Pope. Why-a don't you-a comma downa here and-a direct-a the trafic, your holiness, eh?"

And the pope came down, started directing traffic and he was so good at it, they made it a responsibility. Now the original mechanical Pope couldn't direct traffic so when there wasn't a living Pope, the Vatican would put up an eight sided sign at each corner that read "Dead Pope". That told everyone to try and get along until a new Pope could be brought in and taught how to direct traffic. The second generation meccha Pope could direct traffic but he couldn't do drive by blessings, so something was lost there.
 
2013-03-04 08:27:08 AM

Baron Harkonnen: AverageAmericanGuy: It's never too late to do the right thing, Ratzinger.

This guy has been hunting down sexual predators in the Church for a very long time. This is something he took it upon himself to do, not something he was forced to do.


You know who else used to hunt down undesirables?
 
2013-03-04 08:31:55 AM

sendbillmoney: It would have been awesome if the then-Pope had cleaned house on his way out the door.  First he issues any changes necessary to do so under canon law, then he says "by my order as Supreme Pontiff, any cleric who has committed [insert list of crimes] is hereby dismissed from the clerical state and all rights, powers, offices, roles, and delegated power in the Church, and is excommunicated from the Church.  The power to modify the effects of this order on any person is expressly reserved to the Apostolic See."  I'm sure there's a Farker out there with a GED in canon law to clean this up,

Maybe there would be a little more elbow room at the conclave.


They would never do it for the same reason Congress would never outlaw corporate lobbying.
 
2013-03-04 08:32:01 AM
CSB

One of my familiy members, a few years back, asked an older Jesuit (friend of the family) how many priests in the Catholic Church are gay.

"Seventy to eighty percent."

/CSB

The Catholic Church will survive, but not as it is today.
 
2013-03-04 08:35:55 AM

Bio-nic: If the catholic church would eliminate the vows as requirements for priests/nuns I honestly think 80 - 90% of this would be fixed.  The other 10% would be in jail.... but most of the problem would be fixed.


Doubt it.   There's no vow of celibacy required to become a school teacher, and we have a dozen new teachers a month helping themselves to some forbidden underage naughtiness.  As far as sheer numbers of perpetrators, gradeschool teachers have priests beat by a country mile.  This wouldsuggest that a vow of celibacy is not what turns one into a molester.
 
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