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(AZCentral)   Doctors say they have been able to cure a child of HIV. Still no cure for cancer   (azcentral.com) divider line 15
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2013-03-03 10:22:23 PM
4 votes:
In Brown's case, the donor carried a genetic mutation that protects people from HIV

The genetic mutation is called CCR5 ∆32. In a nutshell, CCR5 is a receptor through the majority of HIV virus strains infect host cells. If you lack a CCR5 receptor, the HIV virus has no place to bind to and enter your cells to infect them.  Everyone carries two copies of a gene. If you carry a homozygous mutation in the CCR5 receptor (two copies are the same), very few if any of your cells have the CCR5 receptor, and you are effectively immune from contracting all but the most exotic strains of HIV because it has no place to bind, infect, and replicate. If you carry the heterozygous mutation in CCR5 (one normal, one mutated), some of your cells have the CCR5 receptor and you can still become infected, but are classified as a "long term non-progressor" which means you carry the virus but it takes years for it to develop into full fledged AIDS if untreated. If you carry a homozygous normal CCR5, (no mutation) you basically upend and die from AIDS within a short time of contracting HIV if it goes untreated.   Most of the high profile AIDS deaths in the early 1980s were likely from people with homozygous "normal" genetics or from heterozygous mutations who carried the disease since the late 1970s without knowing it because they showed no symptoms until the 1980s.

The mutation increased in the white population because it also conferred resistance to bubonic plague. Prior to the Plagues of the Middle Ages, some studies suggest that levels of CCR5 ∆32 mutation were probably relatively consistent across the globe, but because the Plagues eradicated so many people with normal genetics, the mutation became much more common in people with Northern European descent.

This is the percentage of CCR ∆32 in different ethnic populations:
European Descent: 16%
African Americans: 2%
Ashkenazi Jew: 13%
Middle Eastern: 2-6%

In this case, it sounds like the little tike hit the lottery. Oh, and ever wonder why African countries are rampant with AIDS and other developing countries around the world are not? They have little natural defense from HIV, because they never experienced the great plagues like my ancestors did in Europe.

So for some white Northern Europeans, say "yay" to no-consequences gay sex!

(well, except for drug-resistant gonorrhea, which may kill us all)
2013-03-03 11:53:10 PM
2 votes:
It never says that the baby tested positive for HIV. It was assumed she was based upon untreated mother and they started her on medication. With 25-30% transmission in untreated mothers the baby could have avoided infection. This may explain the miracle.
2013-03-03 09:04:17 PM
2 votes:
Mom sounds like a real winner.
2013-03-03 08:55:54 PM
2 votes:
It was Medicine, not prayer? Odd ...
2013-03-03 11:25:54 PM
1 votes:

Benevolent Misanthrope: skullkrusher: Benevolent Misanthrope: Marine1: chemical_angel: It was Medicine, not prayer? Odd ...

Cheesus: chemical_angel: It was Medicine, not prayer? Odd ...

Shush, it was definitely prayer.  God cured this kid, not "science".

/not sure why God created HIV, but whatev

FWIW, the Washington Post article gave this quote from Gay:

'In Mississippi, Gay gives the child a check-up every few months: "I just check for the virus and keep praying that it stays gone." '

/no one is debating that science led to this...

I beg to differ:

"That's a miracle," says Carlos del Rio, co-director of the Emory Center for AIDS Research and a board member at HIVMA (the HIV Medicine Association), who wasn't involved in the study.

Not science, not an unexpected outcome, not fine medical care... a "miracle".  A supernatural event.  There simply is not enough facepalm.

he might've been speaking metaphorically rather than claiming supernatural intercession... ya know, being a farking scientist and stuff.

Then, being a scientist, speaking on a matter of science, he should know better than to invoke a farking deity, even metaphorically.  But we as a society are so used to that kind of bullshiat, we don't even notice most of the time.


Regardless of his beliefs, he's probably doing more than you are to cure a disease that has killed millions.
2013-03-03 10:43:18 PM
1 votes:

skullkrusher: Benevolent Misanthrope: Marine1: chemical_angel: It was Medicine, not prayer? Odd ...

Cheesus: chemical_angel: It was Medicine, not prayer? Odd ...

Shush, it was definitely prayer.  God cured this kid, not "science".

/not sure why God created HIV, but whatev

FWIW, the Washington Post article gave this quote from Gay:

'In Mississippi, Gay gives the child a check-up every few months: "I just check for the virus and keep praying that it stays gone." '

/no one is debating that science led to this...

I beg to differ:

"That's a miracle," says Carlos del Rio, co-director of the Emory Center for AIDS Research and a board member at HIVMA (the HIV Medicine Association), who wasn't involved in the study.

Not science, not an unexpected outcome, not fine medical care... a "miracle".  A supernatural event.  There simply is not enough facepalm.

he might've been speaking metaphorically rather than claiming supernatural intercession... ya know, being a farking scientist and stuff.


Then, being a scientist, speaking on a matter of science, he should know better than to invoke a farking deity, even metaphorically.  But we as a society are so used to that kind of bullshiat, we don't even notice most of the time.
2013-03-03 10:13:43 PM
1 votes:

Marine1: chemical_angel: It was Medicine, not prayer? Odd ...

Cheesus: chemical_angel: It was Medicine, not prayer? Odd ...

Shush, it was definitely prayer.  God cured this kid, not "science".

/not sure why God created HIV, but whatev

FWIW, the Washington Post article gave this quote from Gay:

'In Mississippi, Gay gives the child a check-up every few months: "I just check for the virus and keep praying that it stays gone." '

/no one is debating that science led to this...


I beg to differ:

"That's a miracle," says Carlos del Rio, co-director of the Emory Center for AIDS Research and a board member at HIVMA (the HIV Medicine Association), who wasn't involved in the study.

Not science, not an unexpected outcome, not fine medical care... a "miracle".  A supernatural event.  There simply is not enough facepalm.
2013-03-03 09:49:25 PM
1 votes:

Cheesus: chemical_angel: It was Medicine, not prayer? Odd ...

Shush, it was definitely prayer.  God cured this kid, not "science".

/not sure why God created HIV, but whatev


Dude, didn't you read the comments under the article? It's a "man made" virus and it's somehow linked to this person called "big pharma" that I guess keeps people in other countries from stopping it. So it wasn't god who made HIV, ya goddamm blasphemer.

Jixa: How the hell were they able to afford the incredibly expensive medications for the infant if the mother was so farking out of it/poor she couldn't even get prenatal care.  I'm calling shenanigans on this one.


/stopped reading article after that line.


In the US, babies and children get special treatment when it comes to medical care through various department of health and human services programs. In my state, she would have been able to get prenatal care and treatment, but that may not be the case everywhere. Then again, my state is so freakin' expensive we've got old folks and others on Social Security or with low incomes sleeping by the river because they don't make the minimum to be eligible to rent a place. It's a trade off. If you're poor, you can live here and enjoy nice weather and prenatal care that will also get you your retrovirals while you sleep by the river, or you can have a roof over your head and pray your HIV away in another state. It's a crappy tradeoff, but there it is.
2013-03-03 09:37:42 PM
1 votes:

lack of warmth: chemical_angel: It was Medicine, not prayer? Odd ...

RTA, the medicine was stopped and suddenly the child was found, five months later with no traces of HIV.  Now the doctors have no answer why, but will claim "Wow, look what we did."

When did no treatment become a 'cure'?  Is this the old walk it off, you'll be okay medical plan?


Sounds like they were treating it shortly after birth.
2013-03-03 09:29:04 PM
1 votes:

chemical_angel: It was Medicine, not prayer? Odd ...


RTA, the medicine was stopped and suddenly the child was found, five months later with no traces of HIV.  Now the doctors have no answer why, but will claim "Wow, look what we did."

When did no treatment become a 'cure'?  Is this the old walk it off, you'll be okay medical plan?
2013-03-03 09:27:23 PM
1 votes:
How the hell were they able to afford the incredibly expensive medications for the infant if the mother was so farking out of it/poor she couldn't even get prenatal care.  I'm calling shenanigans on this one.


/stopped reading article after that line.
2013-03-03 09:01:42 PM
1 votes:

chemical_angel: It was Medicine, not prayer? Odd ...


Cheesus: chemical_angel: It was Medicine, not prayer? Odd ...

Shush, it was definitely prayer.  God cured this kid, not "science".

/not sure why God created HIV, but whatev


FWIW, the Washington Post article gave this quote from Gay:

'In Mississippi, Gay gives the child a check-up every few months: "I just check for the virus and keep praying that it stays gone." '

/no one is debating that science led to this...
2013-03-03 08:59:27 PM
1 votes:

chemical_angel: It was Medicine, not prayer? Odd ...


Shush, it was definitely prayer.  God cured this kid, not "science".

/not sure why God created HIV, but whatev
2013-03-03 08:56:40 PM
1 votes:
Science. It works.
2013-03-03 08:55:15 PM
1 votes:
Mine was better.

"Baby born with HIV-1 believed to be cured by Gay".
 
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