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2013-03-03 05:23:24 PM  
Taking video of two really long ships... I wonder if there was some way to frame them in the shot better
 
2013-03-03 05:29:50 PM  
Well, that's the dumbest ship piloting I've ever seen.
 
2013-03-03 05:30:34 PM  

Donnchadha: Taking video of two really long ships... I wonder if there was some way to frame them in the shot better


But holding the phone sideways is just gangsta, we were taught that makes you a bad shot.
 
2013-03-03 06:54:57 PM  
See, the larger ship is actually an unmarked police bulk carrier. The dude piloting the small ship had just failed to make a complete stop at a stop sign (only slowed to 1 kts). The cop gave chase, but the other guy didn't stop soon enough. The was no choice but to PIT him.
 
2013-03-03 07:28:49 PM  
My old man was old school Navy, and he always said that excluding cases with sailboats,  the bigger boat has right-of-way.

Even still however, I wonder how they managed to get so close in the first place.  I'm sure there was a lot of "Oh he'll move away" on both sides but seriously, right-of-way or not, once I got within 200' of another boat like that I'd start thinking about altering course.
 
2013-03-03 07:38:15 PM  
Where in the hell is BEKS?!

Oh, right there. OK.
 
2013-03-03 07:44:28 PM  
i334.photobucket.com

Dear Captains,
Please re-read.
 
2013-03-03 08:27:58 PM  
Damn tailgaters.
 
2013-03-03 08:28:20 PM  
Language warning for those that speak it.
 
2013-03-03 08:28:46 PM  
Both captains are assholes
 
2013-03-03 08:33:32 PM  

NewportBarGuy: Where in the hell is BEKS?!

Oh, right there. OK.


Turn those machines back onnnnnnnnnnnnn!
 
2013-03-03 08:34:20 PM  
The smaller ship's pilot must have gone to the Hexagon Tanker Captain Training School .
 
2013-03-03 08:51:28 PM  
I always thought one of the requirements for "playing chicken" was the players were traveling in opposite directions, towards each other.  This looked like an extremely slow PIT maneuver.
 
2013-03-03 09:00:25 PM  

Shan: My old man was old school Navy, and he always said that excluding cases with sailboats, the bigger boat has right-of-way.


The basic rule is the less maneuverable ship has right of way regardless of size. Usually that's the bigger ship but sailing vessels are one exception.

An even more basic rule is to not taking absurdly stupidly unnecessary risks especially when you're driving a big-ass expensive ship with an expensive cargo and the lives of people under your orders are at risk. But I guess these captains skipped that day in class.
 
2013-03-03 09:05:00 PM  

Donnchadha: Taking video of two really long ships... I wonder if there was some way to frame them in the shot better


Usually I don't complain too much about people filming stuff like that, but in this case I think they're just trolling us.

I'm sure glad we can see the sky and the sea at the top and bottom of the video while we can't even see the full length of the ships that are the supposedly the subject of this.
 
2013-03-03 09:09:23 PM  
 
2013-03-03 09:12:39 PM  
I particularly love the videographer and his buddies swearing in Spanish throughout.
 
2013-03-03 09:21:12 PM  
I realize that a ship that big isn't very maneuverable, but couldn't the rear-most ship have killed her engine?  She may not have stopped on a dime, but she also wouldn't have stopped on the other ship's bridge.
 
2013-03-03 09:38:18 PM  
First rule of maritime navigation is that both vessels must take all precautions necessary or possible to avoid a collision.
After you establish whether or not the first condition is met, then you can argue about who had the right-of-way, or to put it more broadly, who made the navigational error.
BTW, if you are in your 30' sailboat in a narrow ship channel with a freighter bearing down on you, and you don't get the hell off to the side, you are farked and no maritime court will have sympathy for you. It's called prudent navigation.
And if you have your sails up and engine on, you are not under sail, you are under power.
 
2013-03-03 09:39:09 PM  
Chuchilla, full reverse.
 
2013-03-03 09:42:26 PM  
Crazy Ivan!
 
2013-03-03 09:45:28 PM  

Wise_Guy: Crazy Ivan!


I had a 50-50 chance and I went for it!
 
2013-03-03 09:46:00 PM  
I liked the "su madre" comment at the end.
 
2013-03-03 09:57:14 PM  

NewportBarGuy: Wise_Guy: Crazy Ivan!

I had a 50-50 chance and I went for it!


That's all right, Mr Ryan. My Morse is so rusty, I could be sending him dimensions on Playmate of the Month.
 
2013-03-03 10:14:58 PM  

Wise_Guy: NewportBarGuy: Wise_Guy: Crazy Ivan!

I had a 50-50 chance and I went for it!

That's all right, Mr Ryan. My Morse is so rusty, I could be sending him dimensions on Playmate of the Month.


The hard part about playing chicken is knowing when to flinch.
 
2013-03-03 10:18:47 PM  

Macinfarker: Wise_Guy: NewportBarGuy: Wise_Guy: Crazy Ivan!

I had a 50-50 chance and I went for it!

That's all right, Mr Ryan. My Morse is so rusty, I could be sending him dimensions on Playmate of the Month.

The hard part about playing chicken is knowing when to flinch.


It's the goddamn cook!
 
2013-03-03 10:19:35 PM  

styckx: Both captains are assholes


Rubbish. The stand-on vessel did what he was supposed to do. The overtaking vessel was entirely in the wrong. I wonder whatever possessed him to do that. One can only assume equipment failure.
 
2013-03-03 10:21:58 PM  

kyleaugustus: Macinfarker: Wise_Guy: NewportBarGuy: Wise_Guy: Crazy Ivan!

I had a 50-50 chance and I went for it!

That's all right, Mr Ryan. My Morse is so rusty, I could be sending him dimensions on Playmate of the Month.

The hard part about playing chicken is knowing when to flinch.

It's the goddamn cook!


Be careful Ryan, most things in here don't react well to barges...
 
2013-03-03 10:24:23 PM  
Perhaps the little ship realized it was going the wrong way & the tanker was just helping it turn around.  Without the push the 180 would have been a really wide sweep & probably would have been out of the dredged channel.....

Or something like that.
 
2013-03-03 10:28:00 PM  

Macinfarker: kyleaugustus: Macinfarker: Wise_Guy: NewportBarGuy: Wise_Guy: Crazy Ivan!

I had a 50-50 chance and I went for it!

That's all right, Mr Ryan. My Morse is so rusty, I could be sending him dimensions on Playmate of the Month.

The hard part about playing chicken is knowing when to flinch.

It's the goddamn cook!

Be careful Ryan, most things in here don't react well to barges...


Knock it off guys, or it's going to get out of control.  It's going to get out of control and we'll be lucky to live through it.
 
2013-03-03 10:30:12 PM  

Marshall Willenholly: Macinfarker: kyleaugustus: Macinfarker: Wise_Guy: NewportBarGuy: Wise_Guy: Crazy Ivan!

I had a 50-50 chance and I went for it!

That's all right, Mr Ryan. My Morse is so rusty, I could be sending him dimensions on Playmate of the Month.

The hard part about playing chicken is knowing when to flinch.

It's the goddamn cook!

Be careful Ryan, most things in here don't react well to barges...

Knock it off guys, or it's going to get out of control.  It's going to get out of control and we'll be lucky to live through it.


"You're turning right into the path of that barge!"

"Yesh."
 
2013-03-03 10:34:29 PM  

Macinfarker: Marshall Willenholly: Macinfarker: kyleaugustus: Macinfarker: Wise_Guy: NewportBarGuy: Wise_Guy: Crazy Ivan!

I had a 50-50 chance and I went for it!

That's all right, Mr Ryan. My Morse is so rusty, I could be sending him dimensions on Playmate of the Month.

The hard part about playing chicken is knowing when to flinch.

It's the goddamn cook!

Be careful Ryan, most things in here don't react well to barges...

Knock it off guys, or it's going to get out of control.  It's going to get out of control and we'll be lucky to live through it.

"You're turning right into the path of that barge!"

"Yesh."


You arrogant ass.  You've killed us!
 
2013-03-03 10:42:01 PM  

Tillmaster: styckx: Both captains are assholes

Rubbish. The stand-on vessel did what he was supposed to do. The overtaking vessel was entirely in the wrong. I wonder whatever possessed him to do that. One can only assume equipment failure.


Yep. My dad was in the Navy, "if you see the red lights of the ship, you yield."
 
2013-03-03 10:44:14 PM  

lack of warmth: Donnchadha: Taking video of two really long ships... I wonder if there was some way to frame them in the shot better

But holding the phone sideways is just gangsta, we were taught that makes you a bad shot.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSDbmEZCcvw&feature=youtube_gdata_playe r

/better director
 
2013-03-03 10:48:40 PM  

whither_apophis: lack of warmth: Donnchadha: Taking video of two really long ships... I wonder if there was some way to frame them in the shot better

But holding the phone sideways is just gangsta, we were taught that makes you a bad shot.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSDbmEZCcvw&feature=youtube_gdata_play e r

/better director


Ah, same video, just cropped.
 
2013-03-03 10:55:57 PM  

Shan: My old man was old school Navy, and he always said that excluding cases with sailboats,  the bigger boat has right-of-way.

Even still however, I wonder how they managed to get so close in the first place.  I'm sure there was a lot of "Oh he'll move away" on both sides but seriously, right-of-way or not, once I got within 200' of another boat like that I'd start thinking about altering course.


RAMMING SPEED!
 
2013-03-03 10:57:25 PM  

Tillmaster: styckx: Both captains are assholes

Rubbish. The stand-on vessel did what he was supposed to do. The overtaking vessel was entirely in the wrong. I wonder whatever possessed him to do that. One can only assume equipment failure.


If you trade paint, odds are you both did something wrong.  The stand-on vessel is supposed to maintain course and speed, but at the same time you're also supposed to consider maneuvering to cover your ass in case the other vessel has a problem or an equipment failure.

Of course when you're driving a freighter (whose owners are barely keeping it up to code anyway), you might be very limited in your options of what you can do once you realized the other guy farked up.  As the ColRegs say none of the rules absolve you of your duty to keep clear or react to special circumstances.

/the overtaking vessel definitely farked it all up though
 
2013-03-03 10:58:53 PM  

ha-ha-guy: Tillmaster: styckx: Both captains are assholes

Rubbish. The stand-on vessel did what he was supposed to do. The overtaking vessel was entirely in the wrong. I wonder whatever possessed him to do that. One can only assume equipment failure.

If you trade paint, odds are you both did something wrong.  The stand-on vessel is supposed to maintain course and speed, but at the same time you're also supposed to consider maneuvering to cover your ass in case the other vessel has a problem or an equipment failure.

Of course when you're driving a freighter (whose owners are barely keeping it up to code anyway), you might be very limited in your options of what you can do once you realized the other guy farked up.  As the ColRegs say none of the rules absolve you of your duty to keep clear or react to special circumstances.

/the overtaking vessel definitely farked it all up though


Overtaking vessel was in the wrong.  Rule 13
 
2013-03-03 11:14:51 PM  
Doesn't it take almost a mile for those Tankers to come to a complete stop?
 
2013-03-03 11:16:21 PM  

vossiewulf: Shan: My old man was old school Navy, and he always said that excluding cases with sailboats, the bigger boat has right-of-way.

The basic rule is the less maneuverable ship has right of way regardless of size. Usually that's the bigger ship but sailing vessels are one exception.

An even more basic rule is to not taking absurdly stupidly unnecessary risks especially when you're driving a big-ass expensive ship with an expensive cargo and the lives of people under your orders are at risk. But I guess these captains skipped that day in class.


Well okay, he actually put it more like how you and hakelly said, I was just simplifying.  In all honesty he never really talked about his time in the Navy at all, so other than the "rule" about right-of-way, and some knots I know very little about how things are "supposed" to be on the open water.

Watching the video, you hear a ton of horns blaring, is it possible fark naval experts, that the BEKS was essentially saying "I can't stop, I can't turn, get out of my way."   While it wouldn't absolve the BEKS ship of fault, if say he lost rudder control AND throttle, you'd think there would be a standard way of indicating such a loss of control.  Presumably radio's aren't always an option due to language issues, plus radio frequencies (spend 10 minutes trying to get the right freq only to realize you speak Russian and he's Somolian or something).  Is flag semaphore not commonly used any more?
 
2013-03-03 11:16:35 PM  

Rincewind53: Well, that's the dumbest ship piloting I've ever seen.


Until next week on Whale Wars.
 
2013-03-03 11:41:44 PM  
That is why you always check your blind spot and use your turn signal
 
2013-03-03 11:47:40 PM  

RodneyToady: [i334.photobucket.com image 311x472]

Dear Captains,
Please re-read.


Came for this.
 
2013-03-03 11:53:00 PM  

Shan: vossiewulf: Shan: My old man was old school Navy, and he always said that excluding cases with sailboats, the bigger boat has right-of-way.

The basic rule is the less maneuverable ship has right of way regardless of size. Usually that's the bigger ship but sailing vessels are one exception.

An even more basic rule is to not taking absurdly stupidly unnecessary risks especially when you're driving a big-ass expensive ship with an expensive cargo and the lives of people under your orders are at risk. But I guess these captains skipped that day in class.

Well okay, he actually put it more like how you and hakelly said, I was just simplifying.  In all honesty he never really talked about his time in the Navy at all, so other than the "rule" about right-of-way, and some knots I know very little about how things are "supposed" to be on the open water.

Watching the video, you hear a ton of horns blaring, is it possible fark naval experts, that the BEKS was essentially saying "I can't stop, I can't turn, get out of my way."   While it wouldn't absolve the BEKS ship of fault, if say he lost rudder control AND throttle, you'd think there would be a standard way of indicating such a loss of control.  Presumably radio's aren't always an option due to language issues, plus radio frequencies (spend 10 minutes trying to get the right freq only to realize you speak Russian and he's Somolian or something).  Is flag semaphore not commonly used any more?


VHF channel 16 is the international standard bridge-to-bridge channel by treaty of pretty much every maritime nation. English is also required to be spoken by captains and bridge crews of vessels this large, by the same sort of treaties. I have never in my life met a captain or watch-standing crew who could not speak English, and I have yet to encounter a ship that won't answer a hail on channel 16.
 
2013-03-03 11:57:19 PM  

Tillmaster: styckx: Both captains are assholes

Rubbish. The stand-on vessel did what he was supposed to do. The overtaking vessel was entirely in the wrong. I wonder whatever possessed him to do that. One can only assume equipment failure.


I was thinking something like bank suction was going on, with the overtaking ship's bow acting like a channel bank.
 
2013-03-03 11:57:48 PM  
While the overtaking vessel was wrong, WTF was the freighter captain doing turning into the tanker? Methinks he should have turned a bit to the right to gain some separation.
 
2013-03-04 12:03:52 AM  
That supertanker was piloted by the ex captain of the Nisshin Maru.
 
2013-03-04 12:29:25 AM  
Boating in Russia.
 
2013-03-04 12:33:01 AM  

Macinfarker: kyleaugustus: Macinfarker: Wise_Guy: NewportBarGuy: Wise_Guy: Crazy Ivan!

I had a 50-50 chance and I went for it!

That's all right, Mr Ryan. My Morse is so rusty, I could be sending him dimensions on Playmate of the Month.

The hard part about playing chicken is knowing when to flinch.

It's the goddamn cook!

Be careful Ryan, most things in here don't react well to barges...


Bravo, all of you!  :D
 
2013-03-04 12:34:30 AM  

The_Eliminator: VHF channel 16 is the international standard bridge-to-bridge channel by treaty of pretty much every maritime nation. English is also required to be spoken by captains and bridge crews of vessels this large, by the same sort of treaties. I have never in my life met a captain or watch-standing crew who could not speak English, and I have yet to encounter a ship that won't answer a hail on channel 16.


Ok, so pretty much like international flight crews then yeah?  It makes sense, though for some reason I always imagined the water as being less....organized, than air travel.
 
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