The Envoy: untaken_name: dragonchild: untaken_name: Ok, just playing devil's advocate here, but if you don't have good data about shark species or populations, and it's hard to quantify the damage being done, how do you know it isn't sustainable?Because the low estimate isn't sustainable either? As XKCD says, there's a form of "relevant accuracy" where there's no meaningful difference between 10 million and 100 million.It's unlikely any of the numbers in the entire range of their estimates is sustainable. We don't have good data on sharks but we have plenty of other data to extrapolate from, having nearly wiped out other species that reproduce much faster and earlier in life.Okay, but again, how do you know? If there are 100,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 sharks, and we're killing 100 million, that's sustainable. What I am saying is, what evidence do we have to suggest that it is unsustainable? I don't just want more assurances that it is. I'm not even skeptical, but how do you convince someone who is? Just more "cause we say so"?Look at breeding rates combined with natural known ranges of sharks, age etc? I don't know, I'm not an ichthyologist, I'm just thinking and typing. While not exact there must be ways to narrow it down.
untaken_name: The person I originally quoted made a pretty definitive statement, and then said "but there's not enough data to draw any conclusions from" so I was wondering where the definitive statement came from.
untaken_name: Well, ok, fair enough. But to be fair, I wasn't asking you. The person I originally quoted made a pretty definitive statement, and then said "but there's not enough data to draw any conclusions from" so I was wondering where the definitive statement came from. I'm pretty sure that's something only they will know.
ggecko: Or this hot girl that freaking swims with Great White sharks???? I'd bite in to that!It's actually sort of artistic looking:Vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOkEd_RQ-WM[i.imgur.com image 720x480]
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