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2013-03-03 09:02:57 PM

Yankees Team Gynecologist: rebelyell2006: writing a thesis about the phenomenon of the "barely legal teens"

It's not that complicated:

[i.imgur.com image 300x1500]


MILFS are better lays.  Just sayin'.
 
2013-03-03 09:06:01 PM

phrawgh: Barely legal is still legal, nonetheless.


Thanks. I was holding my breath there for awhile.
 
2013-03-03 09:06:58 PM
outbound spam filtering has been around for years. Any machine (or set of machines) that allows too much spam to be sent from them is at risk of being blocked by machines that receiving email, either on a local basis or via a DNSBL. It sounds like Apple is just doing a bad job of detecting what is spam and what isn't.


Yes, this is another example of bad guys making life hard for the rest of us. :-<
 
2013-03-03 09:09:53 PM

baronvonzipper: phrawgh: Barely legal is still legal, nonetheless.

Thanks. I was holding my breath there for awhile.


Pissing teens, on the other hand.
 
2013-03-03 09:11:07 PM
meanwhile 'barely teens' gets by unfiltered.
 
2013-03-03 09:11:55 PM

ZAZ: rebelyell2006: Sucks to be that person writing a thesis about the phenomenon of the "barely legal teens". Months or years of work disappearing for no good reason.

I heard a tale of processing woe in college.

A student was writing his thesis. He had a file for the introduction, conclusion, and so forth, and in addition to the beginning and end matter had a big file for the core of the work. One night most of his thesis disappeared.

Disk space was precious in those days. When Unix programs crashed they tended to leave behind large files named "core." The system would delete such files as junk.  The lesson was, don't name valuable files core.


I had a similar experience.  It took about ten days for the sysadmin to recover it.
 
2013-03-03 09:17:44 PM

phrawgh: baronvonzipper: phrawgh: Barely legal is still legal, nonetheless.

Thanks. I was holding my breath there for awhile.

Pissing teens, on the other hand.


I'm originally from the deep, deep South. So when I became a man, I got married. She was 16, I was 17. Nobody thought anything of it at the time - it was the norm. Get the little bastards out of the house so we can go on with our lives.
 
2013-03-03 09:22:10 PM
YES, it IS truei155.photobucket.com
 
2013-03-03 09:23:02 PM

relaxitsjustme: This thread is seriously lacking in the barely legal teens dept.

[hflol.com image 449x600]


I'm pretty sure she's pushing 30
 
2013-03-03 09:34:10 PM
This would explain why I don't get any e-mail anymore.
 
2013-03-03 09:44:18 PM

Big Man On Campus: FTFA:
Apple's iCloud email service has a neat trick: instead of relegating emails that contains phrases like "barely legal teens" to your spam folder, it simply doesn't deliver your message.

You mean like a POP filter that's been around for over a decade? Is there no end to what can be claimed as innovative?


I was about to say, it sounds like a slightly over-enthusiastic spam filter setting that has a phraselist that will drop instead of quarantining, which is normally an extremely dumb idea but generally gets turned on by default on new installs. It's best to let users decide whether to drop or save.

It would be hilarious if after all of that discussion and emailing they had just missed a setting on iCloud's control panel though.
 
2013-03-03 09:52:25 PM
B-b-b-b-ookmark.
 
2013-03-03 10:05:17 PM

lordargent: Doesn't "barely legal teens" mean 18 year-olds?
If they were 13-17, they wouldn't be legal (in most states).
If they were 19, then they're not "barely" legal as they've been legal for over a year.
18 is the only teen year that fits all of the criteria.


I always figured "bare-ly" was mostly a pun.

a248.e.akamai.net
 
2013-03-03 10:08:04 PM

Bob Down: Passworded zip files. That's how management send their porn attachments to each other at work.


That might work, so long as none of the file names were 'barely legal teens' or any combination of those words, because even if a zip file is password protected you can still see what the files are, you just can't open or extract them.  So in a nutshell, zip files are worthless for hiding porn.

/ or at least they used to be, maybe they've fixed that loophole since I last tried to use a zip file for security
 
2013-03-03 10:14:13 PM

vygramul: It even looks into PDFs?  So, if you PDFed a book you bought, they might delete it as a POSSIBLY illegal copy?


Barely legal books?
 
2013-03-03 10:15:47 PM

lordargent: Doesn't "barely legal teens" mean 18 year-olds?

If they were 13-17, they wouldn't be legal (in most states).

If they were 19, then they're not "barely" legal as they've been legal for over a year.

18 is the only teen year that fits all of the criteria.


In actual practice, "barely legal" appears to mean 30-year-olds with ponytails acting like kids.
 
2013-03-03 10:22:29 PM
Not sure what the big deal is here. Google, Hotmail, etc all likely do the exact same thing. 99.9999% of all emails with that subject line are likely spam or malware anyways. Next thing you'll be telling me emails about cheap Viagra are deleted from iCloud too!
 
2013-03-03 10:30:49 PM
While I have no qualms about them blocking specific terms or phrases, I do have a problem with them silently blocking it. From the way it's described, it just doesn't send the message; there's no notification at all, so the sender doesn't realize the message never went anywhere. That is really bad design.
 
2013-03-03 11:01:01 PM
(Internet porn) barely legal teens
(Internet porn) naughty figurines
(Internet porn) geriatric German grandmas spanking Spanish men
(Internet porn) erotic Asian art
(Internet porn) guys with extra parts
(Internet porn) I don't think I'm ever going to see the sun again

/somebody had to
 
2013-03-03 11:01:54 PM
MayContainHorseGluten: Not sure what the big deal is here. Google, Hotmail, etc all likely do the exact same thing. 99.9999% of all emails with that subject line are likely spam or malware anyways. Next thing you'll be telling me emails about cheap Viagra are deleted from iCloud too!

Gmail sticks them into a spam folder.

Here it sounds like they're not getting delivered at all.

// have had legit e-mail go to my gmail spam folder before. Would not have been happy to have them deleted outright.
 
2013-03-03 11:55:42 PM

PsyLord: [www.luerzersarchive.com image 400x295]
/ironic


Not if you read the comment section.
Remember, it's Gawker and if I'm not mistaken they pay by the word or so.
 
2013-03-03 11:57:35 PM

lordargent: // have had legit e-mail go to my gmail spam folder before. Would not have been happy to have them deleted outright.


And that's the crux of the issue.

What else are they deleting? What else isn't getting through?
 
2013-03-03 11:59:11 PM

Marcintosh: Not if you read the comment section.


Meh, so they turned it off when people freaked out. Still doesn't tell us what else is/has been filtering.
 
2013-03-04 12:06:47 AM

Blink: Being a nerd, I often see things and attribute an alignment to them.  Whenever I experience any of Apple's products or read about them in the media (or witness their followers) -- I immediately think: Lawful Evil.

At this point, I'm completely convinced they're textbook examples of LE.  Control people with lies and deceit, yet do it with intelligence and competence.  Now, I mostly wonder which layer of Hell their front office is based out of.


Didn't they just buy Hell? Oh, wait, that was Google.

Satan is now a Regional VP.
 
2013-03-04 12:10:09 AM

ZAZ: I don't care. Will my email about guaranteed 14 year old first time amateur virgin whores get through?


Is there such a thing as an amateur whore?  It seems to me that as soon as you accept payment you give up your amateur status (and olympic hopes) but if you just give it away you're by definition not a whore.
 
2013-03-04 12:12:43 AM

theflatline: Speaker2Animals: Rik01: Didn't Apple, with the iPod, develop a way for you to buy and download music -- which then expired after a period of time and could not be downloaded or copied to any other media? (I could be wrong here, but I dimly recall something about that. I don't own or use iPods.)

No. ITMS has always been, you buy it and its yours and stays on your computer/iPod whatever forever. No expiration date was ever part of the deal.

Tell that to the people that bought Siri before Apple decided to integrate it.


What does that have to do with what I said?
 
2013-03-04 12:18:07 AM
Why is this an issue?  Seriously who doesn't run their own mail server, PBX, and voicemail service on servers in their basement?

/oh and have redundant ISPs in case one goes down for maintenance or a cable cut
 
2013-03-04 12:29:24 AM

MayContainHorseGluten: Not sure what the big deal is here. Google, Hotmail, etc all likely do the exact same thing. 99.9999% of all emails with that subject line are likely spam or malware anyways. Next thing you'll be telling me emails about cheap Viagra are deleted from iCloud too!


Other than the fact that all the others send them to a spam folder instead of deleting them outright, they aren't just deleting e-mails with that phrase in the subject line.  They are deleting e-mails that contain that phrase anywhere in the body, and even e-mails with attached pdfs that contain the phrase.
 
2013-03-04 12:57:36 AM

hackhix: NOM

[farm4.staticflickr.com image 850x566]


Way too much lettuce, not nearly enough bacon.
 
2013-03-04 01:08:35 AM
I found out my employer is (or at least was) running an email monitoring program quite by accident when I sent an email that contained the word "nipple", as in "chase nipple", a standard electrical conduit fitting.  I got a message that my email contained potentially offensive or inappropriate content. I found out later it doesn't like the term "bastard" as in "bastard file". And for some odd reason, it really didn't like the word nybble. I have also managed to piss IT off by sending the words tits and boobies even though they were used in a proper ornithological context. They have gone so far as to accuse me of doing this on purpose.

And they are right. ;-)
 
2013-03-04 01:17:54 AM

wrs1864: outbound spam filtering has been around for years. Any machine (or set of machines) that allows too much spam to be sent from them is at risk of being blocked by machines that receiving email, either on a local basis or via a DNSBL. It sounds like Apple is just doing a bad job of detecting what is spam and what isn't.


Yes, this is another example of bad guys making life hard for the rest of us. :-<


I work for an ISP and we maintain 5 different email domains. I had to explain to a little only lady once why she got so much spam. Her email was 'Fur Fetish Farms' @ her ISP.com.
"How do I get rid of it?"
"You prevent it."
"How do I prevent it?"
"Use a different username than that one."
"What's wrong with my current username?"


She ran a boarding house for dogs. She had no idea what her email inferred.
 
2013-03-04 02:47:16 AM
This was tested really well.

/tried it myself, email wasn't blocked.
//haters goin' a hate.
 
2013-03-04 03:07:04 AM

St_Francis_P: And like Fark comment threads, several people disprove the premise of the article, while the rest ignore their posts and gripe about the headline subject.


Well, like a good journalist the author did take the time to contact Apple to ask about their policy before publishing, right?

Oh.

Krieghund: lordargent: Doesn't "barely legal teens" mean 18 year-olds?
If they were 13-17, they wouldn't be legal (in most states).
If they were 19, then they're not "barely" legal as they've been legal for over a year.
18 is the only teen year that fits all of the criteria.

I always figured "bare-ly" was mostly a pun.

[a248.e.akamai.net image 300x396]


Super Duper Pooper?
Does their "furriest girl ever" yiff?

I'm definitely either missing something or quite badly outside of "Barely Legal Teens"' target demographic.
 
2013-03-04 03:59:16 AM

GoldenEggs: YES, it IS true[i155.photobucket.com image 800x800]


I thought you had to be 18 to post on Fark.
 
2013-03-04 04:12:16 AM
so they consider ALL teens legal now??
 
2013-03-04 04:36:37 AM

St_Francis_P: And like Fark comment threads, several people disprove the premise of the article, while the rest ignore their posts and gripe about the headline subject.


For Christ's farking sake, it didn't even take 10 comments for you to be proven correct. The thread just fell into a derpy abyss.
 
2013-03-04 04:39:36 AM

theflatline: Speaker2Animals: Rik01: Didn't Apple, with the iPod, develop a way for you to buy and download music -- which then expired after a period of time and could not be downloaded or copied to any other media? (I could be wrong here, but I dimly recall something about that. I don't own or use iPods.)

No. ITMS has always been, you buy it and its yours and stays on your computer/iPod whatever forever. No expiration date was ever part of the deal.

Tell that to the people that bought Siri before Apple decided to integrate it.


You forgot to mention that Obama was designed by Apple and manufactured at FoxConn, to push teh ghey liebrul agenda. Oh, and they own a patent for the rectangle and the wheel.
 
2013-03-04 04:41:36 AM

digistil: St_Francis_P: And like Fark comment threads, several people disprove the premise of the article, while the rest ignore their posts and gripe about the headline subject.

For Christ's farking sake, it didn't even take 10 comments for you to be proven correct. The thread just fell into a derpy abyss.

 
2013-03-04 04:48:52 AM
Apple sent everyone an email about this policy and has no idea why none of you got it.
 
2013-03-04 06:03:26 AM

PsyLord: [www.luerzersarchive.com image 400x295]
/ironic


I see your ironic and raise you predictable.

I also note that "barely legal teens" in any written or pictorial form are, by definition, legal. It might be creepy (unlees you are in fact a barely legal teen yourself), but it's no more a crime than any other product description.

Just as in some places, you could dig up Jobs's corpse and apply a vigorous skull farking. The concept of "indignity to a corpse" isn't universal, nor is it consistent. Apple's actions seem to make several assumptions. They almost certainly block other things. Welcome to Best Korea.

Still waiting for the ban on "horny grandmas" and "Guess what it takes to break a Sybian?" subject lines.
 
2013-03-04 06:38:27 AM

Yankees Team Gynecologist: rebelyell2006: writing a thesis about the phenomenon of the "barely legal teens"

It's not that complicated:

[i.imgur.com image 300x1500]


I had the exact opposite experience... TEEN!  TEEN!  *crazy biatches, both*

... MILF!
 
2013-03-04 07:10:33 AM
But "Poppin' Mamas" is still OK, right?
 
2013-03-04 08:50:33 AM
What?
Working on a Monday?
 
2013-03-04 10:54:33 AM
But "barely illegal teens" is fine?
 
2013-03-04 12:24:33 PM
No Ivatican for you.
 
2013-03-04 12:35:50 PM
First I gotta wonder how they discovered this issue in the first place.  Who was emailing about "barely legal teens" and found out that the emails were not going through.

Then I have to wonder about the balls on the guy who would complain about the emails not going through.  You have to have some stones if you are going to spam porn links then complain when someone does not get them

Finally, I have to laugh at the fact that it sounds like they are trying to start a revolution over the fact that they can't send out emails about "barely legal teens".  They have not identified any other phrases that are filtered so they are going to settle for fighting to send their "barely legal teens".
 
2013-03-04 03:46:36 PM
How about 'Bare Naked Ladies'?
 
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