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2013-03-03 02:35:45 PM  
Newt has occasional moments of near-lucidity.
 
2013-03-03 02:47:34 PM  
My gawd, his wife has dead eyes...
 
2013-03-03 02:58:49 PM  

abb3w: Newt has occasional moments of near-lucidity.


He'll say whatever he needs to say to appeal to whichever crowd he's working at the moment. I don't think he really feels strongly about anything on the inside, he'll push whatever rhetoric puts him out front. Mitt Romney's another one like that. In this election at least, enough people saw right through it with both Gingrich and then subsequently, Romney.
 
2013-03-03 03:43:26 PM  

zulius: My gawd, his wife has dead eyes...


Mrs. Gingrich, a late model Stepford Wife*, is saving her shopping money to buy a Stepford Husband.

*Perfect Republican Political Wife Series, Model GOP-137
 
2013-03-03 04:47:22 PM  

abb3w: Newt has occasional moments of near-lucidity.


Only because he lost.  That entire thing boils down to 'the only reason I lost is I had to say what I thought people wanted to hear.  It's not my fault they wanted to hear it, and it's their fault they didn't like it when I said it.'
 
2013-03-03 05:06:18 PM  
What did you get wrong about the campaign?

First, there was a belief in economic determinism, that you couldn't have that level of unemployment and have a president get re-elected.


LOL!

It actually started to get ridiculous after a while, the number of RW hacks repeating "Obama simply *can't* get re-elected if unemployment is at (fill in arbitrary number o' the week here)".

It was like their mantra or something.

Buying into your own BS, Newt? That's a noob move.

/Don't get high on your own supply.
 
2013-03-03 05:18:35 PM  
He's like an Interwebs troll but real.
 
2013-03-03 05:23:23 PM  
If you look at the attitudes of the country, they ended up blaming George W. Bush, not Obama. They ended up thinking that ObamaCare actually was a net plus by the election. None of that seemed at all obvious to us.

So, they were smarter than you thought?
 
2013-03-03 05:26:44 PM  
How many times does someone have to be an admitted liar huckster before he loses credibility? Six?
 
2013-03-03 05:46:44 PM  

quatchi: What did you get wrong about the campaign?

First, there was a belief in economic determinism, that you couldn't have that level of unemployment and have a president get re-elected.

LOL!

It actually started to get ridiculous after a while, the number of RW hacks repeating "Obama simply *can't* get re-elected if unemployment is at (fill in arbitrary number o' the week here)".

It was like their mantra or something.

Buying into your own BS, Newt? That's a noob move.

/Don't get high on your own supply.


I remember them repeating that mantra over and over. After falling for the "real estate never loses value" bit last decade, I'm convinced that nothing is ever carved in stone or guaranteed.

Repeat after me:
Past experience does not necessarily predict future performance.
Past experience does not necessarily predict future performance.
Past experience does not necessarily predict future performance.
Past experience does not necessarily predict future performance.
 
2013-03-03 06:07:57 PM  

make me some tea: I remember them repeating that mantra over and over. After falling for the "real estate never loses value" bit last decade, I'm convinced that nothing is ever carved in stone or guaranteed.


"No sitting President has ever been reelected with..."

As if the electorate, technology, and our culture is stagnant and that it is the exact same playing field every four years and the country simply chooses between two parties.
 
2013-03-03 06:32:09 PM  
Something like once a year, we get an interview from a good number of the GOP "big hitters" where they come out, speak candidly, and insinuate that the ideology put forth by candidates in elections is really sort of bunk, and they aren't really as fascist as they need to pretend to be when their base is watching.  It really sticks in my junk.  I'd almost rather them be comic book supervillains who believe the shiat- at least then they'd be farksticks with a little integrity.
 
2013-03-03 06:57:19 PM  

Fair_Poopsmith: Something like once a year, we get an interview from a good number of the GOP "big hitters" where they come out, speak candidly, and insinuate that the ideology put forth by candidates in elections is really sort of bunk, and they aren't really as fascist as they need to pretend to be when their base is watching.  It really sticks in my junk.  I'd almost rather them be comic book supervillains who believe the shiat- at least then they'd be farksticks with a little integrity.


Oh, I've said that for years. If any Republitard actually came out and said "No, I just hate Obama because he's black," I'd vote for him twice.
 
2013-03-03 06:58:35 PM  
Newt is a tireless self promoter and populist politician. He will literally say anything if he believes it is with popular sentiment. I'm not saying that's bad exactly, but the idea that he even "has ideas" is patently false. His only driving motivator is building the Newt Gingrich brand.
 
2013-03-03 06:59:30 PM  
media.salon.com
"In the real world we were kidding ourselves"

Perfect example: Callista is kidding herself if she thinks she more than a single bad pap-smear away from being Newt's next ex-wife.
 
2013-03-03 07:00:52 PM  
He's just jealous over Bohner's grandstanding after faking everyone over, again. Then Gingrich got a chubby from seeing Cantor try to fark everyone over, and now he just wants sloppy 1727821ths.
 
2013-03-03 07:05:20 PM  
Does anyone give a damn, what Newt says anymore?
 
2013-03-03 07:07:23 PM  
First, there was a belief in economic determinism, that you couldn't have that level of unemployment and have a president get re-elected.

If anybody ever had any doubt the GOP was purposefully trying to hamper job growth, there is your proof. They thought if they slowed hiring and caused more uncertainty, the White House was their's for the taking. They doubled down on this bet and lost. Most intelligent people saw it, and Obama won in a landslide.
 
2013-03-03 07:10:17 PM  

Fair_Poopsmith: Something like once a year, we get an interview from a good number of the GOP "big hitters" where they come out, speak candidly, and insinuate that the ideology put forth by candidates in elections is really sort of bunk, and they aren't really as fascist as they need to pretend to be when their base is watching.  It really sticks in my junk.  I'd almost rather them be comic book supervillains who believe the shiat- at least then they'd be farksticks with a little integrity.


This is actually part of the reason Rick Santorum is one of the most 'likeable' of the GOP candidates. He is truly batshiat insane evil.
 
2013-03-03 07:11:02 PM  

brantgoose: zulius: My gawd, his wife has dead eyes...

Mrs. Gingrich, a late model Stepford Wife*, is saving her shopping money to buy a Stepford Husband.

*Perfect Republican Political Wife Series, Model GOP-137


They remind me of Nadine's eyes after Flagg popped her  cherry.
 
2013-03-03 07:13:58 PM  

Karac: [media.salon.com image 620x412]
"In the real world we were kidding ourselves"

Perfect example: Callista is kidding herself if she thinks she more than a single bad pap-smear away from being Newt's next ex-wife.


Callista is a Stepford Wife. She'll keep right on smiling as Newt is banging a filipino ladyboy right in front of her
 
2013-03-03 07:15:26 PM  
It has become a cold day in Hell when Newt Gingrich is the "moderate Republican" candidate.
 
2013-03-03 07:17:56 PM  

Gyrfalcon: Fair_Poopsmith: Something like once a year, we get an interview from a good number of the GOP "big hitters" where they come out, speak candidly, and insinuate that the ideology put forth by candidates in elections is really sort of bunk, and they aren't really as fascist as they need to pretend to be when their base is watching.  It really sticks in my junk.  I'd almost rather them be comic book supervillains who believe the shiat- at least then they'd be farksticks with a little integrity.

Oh, I've said that for years. If any Republitard actually came out and said "No, I just hate Obama because he's black," I'd vote for him twice.


I think the reality is something more like, "my voter base hates Obama because he's black, and while I couldn't really give a shiat, I've got to come up with bullshiat they can use to justify their racist dick-cockery while pretending not to be racist dick-cocks."
 
2013-03-03 07:20:22 PM  
"deep, bold, thorough and lengthy"
Logjammin II
 
2013-03-03 07:20:38 PM  

zulius: My gawd, his wife has dead eyes...


You'd have dead eyes too after 15 years of that gelatinous pantload climbing on top of you, gleefully yelling "Newty Booty, Newty Booty, Newty Booty."

Poor gal's probably buying Valium by the crate by now.
 
2013-03-03 07:22:43 PM  
Newt is a opportunist, a blowhard, and will say anything to anyone just to keep himself in the news and help push his books and talks. By the way, when he says something using the word "profound", that does not make what he just said actually profound.
 
2013-03-03 07:26:13 PM  

DuudeStanky: Karac: [media.salon.com image 620x412]
"In the real world we were kidding ourselves"

Perfect example: Callista is kidding herself if she thinks she more than a single bad pap-smear away from being Newt's next ex-wife.

Callista is a Stepford Wife. She'll keep right on smiling as Newt is banging a filipino ladyboy right in front of her


Well, of course she would.  But the divorce won't be her choice; as soon as her manufactorer's warranty runs out, Newt'll trade her in for a newer model - 'cause you KNOW he didn't spring for the extended package.

Neat bit of trivia:  Newt married 1st wife Jackie in 1962, divorced in 1980 (18 years).  He married 2nd wife Marianne in 1981, divorced her in her in 2000 (19 years).  His affair with Callista started in 1993 (20 years ago).  He's due for a new squeeze.
 
2013-03-03 07:26:20 PM  
Newt Gingrich? The sociopath?
 
2013-03-03 07:26:34 PM  
All politicians are self-serving, but Gingrich is purely self-serving. There is never a reason to pay attention to him. He will contradict himself the minute he sees an angle in doing so. While speaking smugly about the importance of sticking to principles.
 
2013-03-03 07:26:45 PM  
For the most part I find Newt to be a loathsome amoral shiatbag that's learned how to troll the political system for cash whenever his finances get low. If karma really existed, he would be dying of nut cancer and crying because Calista left him.

But this was almost thoughtful and lucid.
 
2013-03-03 07:27:18 PM  
No Newt, we won't forget all that stupid shiat you said in the primaries.
 
2013-03-03 07:27:41 PM  

quatchi: What did you get wrong about the campaign?

First, there was a belief in economic determinism, that you couldn't have that level of unemployment and have a president get re-elected.

LOL!

It actually started to get ridiculous after a while, the number of RW hacks repeating "Obama simply *can't* get re-elected if unemployment is at (fill in arbitrary number o' the week here)".


There have to have been people in Alf Landon's camp in 1936 looking at 'unskewed' numbers and coming to the same conclusion.
 
2013-03-03 07:35:24 PM  

roadkillontheweb: Does anyone give a damn, what Newt says anymore?


Other than pointing and laughing at him, Newt Gingrich does not belong on any media outlet.
 
2013-03-03 07:40:21 PM  
Newt is desperately trying to remain relevant.

The Republican Party is lost, very lost. Newt wants to be the Jew that leads them out of the desert into the White House.

The 8 years of Neo-con rule during GWB is something Newt is disparate to put behind them.

I think the Republicans will splinter like the Democrats during the 60's when equal rights for Blacks drove the Southern Democrats out of the party. I think there will again be a southern split, this time an off-shoot Republican anti-gay and anti-abortion that will probably merge with the tea party.
 
2013-03-03 07:45:13 PM  
A$$-Phat...
 
2013-03-03 07:45:37 PM  

make me some tea: Repeat after me:
Past experience does not necessarily predict future performance.
Past experience does not necessarily predict future performance.
Past experience does not necessarily predict future performance.
Past experience does not necessarily predict future performance.


FTA:  The fact is inner-city black districts are not the same as suburban Republican districts.

Yep, he still doesn't get it. In much of the country, the suburbs are the new mixing pots. Go try to talk to the inner city blacks and you're likely to find their houses filled with white gay graphic designers. The demographics of the cities and suburbs are changing but he still sees city/black/poor - suburb/white/middle class as the way the world works.This is part of the reason why they've had to get so crazy with the gerrymandering lately.

Things aren't as (pardon the phrase) black and white as they use to be.  Not all black people are poor. Not all poor people are black. Not all poor people live in cities (as matter of fact, a majority of them now live in suburbs). Hispanic people are no longer a small minority who you only see at ethnic restaurants.

I'm not sure Newt has really learned a thing. And I'm quite sure the GOP as a whole hasn't. They're still searching for the right combination of words and gimmicks that will get people to vote for them without needing to actually change their positions one bit... unless it's to wander off further to the fringe.
 
2013-03-03 07:48:11 PM  
The only thing I'd be willing to listen to Newt Gingrich say is: "ouch stop hitting me with that shovel".
 
2013-03-03 07:48:48 PM  

Kumana Wanalaia: Newt Gingrich? The sociopath?


It's not weird that I read that in Christopher Lloyd's voice, right?
 
2013-03-03 07:54:18 PM  

Lawnchair: There have to have been people in Alf Landon's camp in 1936 looking at 'unskewed' numbers and coming to the same conclusion.


LOL.

I just looked up the wiki page on Landon and discovered some interesting parallels between his landslide loss to FDR and Romney's epic loss to Obama.

First there was the whole "black vote" thing.

Both tried and failed to bring the black vote into the Republican tent at least long enough to vote.

Both tried to do outreach through black churches, in Landon's case outright bribing them with 5$ checks and in Mitt and the modern day GOP's case that whole trying to reach common cause with black churches because of the "we both hate teh ghey" thing.

In the end FDR took 71% of the black vote and Landon got 29%. Puts him ahead of Mittster.

Landon lost his home state. Mitt lost both of his.

At least Landon admitted he admired FDR and that parts of the New Deal weren't so bad which is more than Mitt could say about Obama and his healthcare insurance initiative (that was originally a GOP counter proposal to Hillarycare back in the day).

Plus Landon ran on the idear that FDR's initiative's were "Hostile to business" and that he was "subverting the Constitution".

Sound familiar?

Nothing new under the sun, apparently.
 
2013-03-03 07:55:59 PM  

PanicMan: The only thing I'd be willing to listen to Newt Gingrich say is: "ouch stop hitting me with that shovel".


ROFLOL...!
 
2013-03-03 07:56:38 PM  
They don't need to come to you; you need to go to them. And when you go there, listen. Phase one is not going there to tell about you. Why is it we can have entire cities that are disasters, that we can have 500 people getting killed in Chicago, we can have Detroit collapsing, we can have the highest black unemployment teenage in modern history, and no Republican politician can figure out that going there to say, "Gee, shouldn't we do something to make this better"?

A central issue that Republicans are going to face is the entire more government vs less government.  He asks "shouldn't we do something" but that would require some government policies to be implemented that would focus on address structural poverty.  Those policies will be derided by conservatives.  So Newt is going to have to deal with matters of political philosophy first.
 
2013-03-03 07:57:15 PM  

PanicMan: The only thing I'd be willing to listen to Newt Gingrich say is: "ouch stop hitting me with that shovel".


LLOL'd.

/The first L is for "literally".
 
2013-03-03 08:11:32 PM  
Wake me when Sarah Palin and Michelle Bachmann are considered RINOs.

/Robespierre was eventually a RINO
 
2013-03-03 08:15:09 PM  
www.rampartsofcivilization.com
 
2013-03-03 08:16:15 PM  

stoli n coke: "Newty Booty, Newty Booty, Newty Booty."



GAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!! I didn't need that in my head!!!
 
2013-03-03 08:17:03 PM  
Both parties lack balls. The Democrats lack the balls to go up against the repubs and say "Go ahead, destroy the country. When your constituents put your head on a pike we'll be standing by to pick up the pieces." The repubs lack the balls to go up against the Tea Party and say "No, you're wrong. There is no grand conspiracy, there is no communist threat, now shut up and pay your taxes." The Democrats are hobbled by what is essentially a form of moral cowardice; the repubs by the fact that it's so easy to make a ton of money simply by pandering to their constituents' worst instincts and paranoid delusions.
 
2013-03-03 08:17:52 PM  
So he's saying what everybody else aside from the GOP leadership understand.  Good first step I suppose.
 
2013-03-03 08:18:22 PM  

clambam: The Democrats lack the balls to go up against the repubs and say "Go ahead, destroy the country. When your constituents put your head on a pike we'll be standing by to pick up the pieces." The repubs lack the balls to go up against the Tea Party and say "No, you're wrong. There is no grand conspiracy, there is no communist threat, now shut up and pay your taxes." The Democrats are hobbled by what is essentially a form of moral cowardice; the repubs by the fact that it's so easy to make a ton of money simply by pandering to their constituents' worst instincts and paranoid delusions.


How is it moral cowardice to NOT let someone destroy the world to prove a point? Seems like the opposite.
 
2013-03-03 08:22:31 PM  
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2013-03-03 08:27:00 PM  

clambam: Both parties lack balls. The Democrats lack the balls to go up against the repubs and say "Go ahead, destroy the country. When your constituents put your head on a pike we'll be standing by to pick up the pieces." The repubs lack the balls to go up against the Tea Party and say "No, you're wrong. There is no grand conspiracy, there is no communist threat, now shut up and pay your taxes." The Democrats are hobbled by what is essentially a form of moral cowardice; the repubs by the fact that it's so easy to make a ton of money simply by pandering to their constituents' worst instincts and paranoid delusions.


I think that's an astute assessment. And intensely frustrating. Few lefties that are actually a part of the political system are really all that energetic about taking a vocal moral stand, in almost anything, or openly call a spade a spade, and call out the GOP for what they are.

And the GOP is too enamored of their wet dream of hereditary aristocracy and fat stacks of campaign cash to seriously examine the problems in their own party.
 
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