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2013-03-03 11:59:37 AM
I'm of the opinion that this anti-racism skit was racist.
 
2013-03-03 12:38:31 PM

arkansas: I'm of the opinion that this anti-racism skit was racist.


I'm of the opinion that the host last night was one of the weaker performers of the season. That skit in particular was closer to cringe than laugh.
 
2013-03-03 12:46:52 PM
That isn't where I would have gone with a "Walking Dead" racism skit. I would have goofed on the apparent 'there can be only one' rule about black cast members. Introduce one black guy only to kill him as soon as a second one appears and then kill that guy when a third appears and so on.

Except SNL itself never seems to have more than 2 black cast members at any one time either.


At least it didn't go on for seven more minutes grinding out that same unfunny joke.
 
2013-03-03 01:14:52 PM

milsorgen: That skit in particular was closer to cringe than laugh.


No, no, no, you don't understand: cringing is the sign that today's comedy was successful.
 
2013-03-03 01:51:23 PM
I'm really glad they touched upon how that kid can just shoot people and not seem to suffer any ill mental effects.  That's always annoyed me!  That and his whining, and his parents giving in to his whining, which always inevitably led to trouble.

/really want that kid to get bit...
 
2013-03-03 04:09:33 PM
Well, SNL underwhelms again.  Soooooooo much they could have done with that premise, but...no.  And is there anyone on the writing staff that can think of anything approaching a funny ending for a single sketch?  Ugh.
 
2013-03-03 04:21:24 PM
The Walking Dead does have some problems with black characters. Yes, they let an Asian male get the girl, which is a victory of sorts in this country, but even still, it just can't seem to have characters of any depth who happen to be darker than cafe au lait. There Can Be Only One IS a good term for how their writers are handling African American characters. And shuffling them off to be tangential characters at best. Are the writers racist? Probably not in the "we're going to burn folks' churches down and run them out of the country!" sense, but for a show set in the South, it is sort of odd that dark faces show up so rarely. I rack it up to simple incompetence and trying very hard to not to fall into racial stereotypes and thus removing themselves from the subject by simply not having African American character be all that integral to the plot is sort of a dodge around the whole issue. It's not what drove me from the show--the weak and grindingly slow plotting did that one--but it's only getting more and more apparent that the writers have been trying to avoid a lot of issues by just ignoring them, and it looks awful odd, given the size of their following.
 
2013-03-03 04:25:51 PM
The Walking Dead live threads are far funnier than that skit.
 
2013-03-03 04:26:36 PM

LadyHawke: I'm really glad they touched upon how that kid can just shoot people and not seem to suffer any ill mental effects.  That's always annoyed me!  That and his whining, and his parents giving in to his whining, which always inevitably led to trouble.

/really want that kid to get bit...


I think it's pretty clear that Carl has suffered mentally.  It's one of his defining characteristics.
 
2013-03-03 04:27:10 PM

hubiestubert: -but it's only getting more and more apparent that the writers have been trying to avoid a lot of issues by just ignoring them


Why does my zombie TV drama have to address issues?
 
2013-03-03 04:30:47 PM
The Homeland parody was funnier.
 
2013-03-03 04:30:53 PM

Mentalpatient87: hubiestubert: -but it's only getting more and more apparent that the writers have been trying to avoid a lot of issues by just ignoring them

Why does my zombie TV drama have to address issues?


Because zombies have always been an obvious allegory for a number of things ever since Romero.
 
2013-03-03 04:36:52 PM

Mentalpatient87: hubiestubert: -but it's only getting more and more apparent that the writers have been trying to avoid a lot of issues by just ignoring them

Why does my zombie TV drama have to address issues?


The same reason Singer's X-men and Superman films were insufferably whiny and emo.

/also black leather
 
2013-03-03 04:37:28 PM

hubiestubert: The Walking Dead does have some problems with black characters. Yes, they let an Asian male get the girl, which is a victory of sorts in this country, but even still, it just can't seem to have characters of any depth who happen to be darker than cafe au lait. There Can Be Only One IS a good term for how their writers are handling African American characters. And shuffling them off to be tangential characters at best. Are the writers racist? Probably not in the "we're going to burn folks' churches down and run them out of the country!" sense, but for a show set in the South, it is sort of odd that dark faces show up so rarely. I rack it up to simple incompetence and trying very hard to not to fall into racial stereotypes and thus removing themselves from the subject by simply not having African American character be all that integral to the plot is sort of a dodge around the whole issue. It's not what drove me from the show--the weak and grindingly slow plotting did that one--but it's only getting more and more apparent that the writers have been trying to avoid a lot of issues by just ignoring them, and it looks awful odd, given the size of their following.


I always thought that zombies are some sort of symbol for something that won't ever die ... like racism.

/Did I just blow yer mind, or what?
 
2013-03-03 04:40:28 PM

Mentalpatient87: hubiestubert: -but it's only getting more and more apparent that the writers have been trying to avoid a lot of issues by just ignoring them

Why does my zombie TV drama have to address issues?


This this this.

It's a zombie horror thriller, don't give a fark what color folks are. What race are the folks in the source material? They got a black woman, asian dude, black guys here and there (zomg racist!), strong female characters. Let's all complain about how the most racist character is a white guy, that's a racist stereotype in itself, right? Sheesh, people with hammers see nails; it gets so tiresome.

/Carl sucks tho, take off that damn hat. Would love to see him get mauled.
 
2013-03-03 04:41:32 PM
IS IT A G-SHIRT??!!

"Naw, mannnn..."
 
2013-03-03 04:50:50 PM

One Bad Apple: That isn't where I would have gone with a "Walking Dead" racism skit. I would have goofed on the apparent 'there can be only one' rule about black cast members. Introduce one black guy only to kill him as soon as a second one appears and then kill that guy when a third appears and so on.


Yeah, it's like none of the writers actually watched the show, and were only sort of vaguely aware of an issue with its black cast members, but never bothered to find out the details.

Plus, it was a surprisingly weak impression from Bill Hader.  The dude is usually scary good.
 
2013-03-03 04:51:31 PM
They don't call the undead on The Walking Dead "zombies".

I don't think I've heard them use the word yet. "walkers", "stenches", "biters", "geeks", sure... But not "zombies". The world of TWD is genre-blind. I like to imagine that in their world, "zombie" hangs on to its original meaning: A person who has been drugged and mentally-enslaved by a Vodou bokor.

Romero didn't originally use the word "zombie" either.

Anyway, that SNL skit was not only unfunny, it was ill-informed. If you're going to parody something, at least get the target's terminology and universal rules straight.
 
2013-03-03 04:57:50 PM

One Bad Apple: That isn't where I would have gone with a "Walking Dead" racism skit. I would have goofed on the apparent 'there can be only one' rule about black cast members. Introduce one black guy only to kill him as soon as a second one appears and then kill that guy when a third appears and so on.

Except SNL itself never seems to have more than 2 black cast members at any one time either.


^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Perfect.
 
2013-03-03 04:58:19 PM
I surely hope that cross bow was a dummy prop and purposely created with the string pulled back and the bolt in firing position for realism, because I was cringing at Hader constantly flagging Hart with it.  If not, Hart narrowly missed getting "Brandon Lee'ed".
 
2013-03-03 04:59:05 PM
meh....

That being said, I am not a zombie, but I would definitely eat Maggie given the chance....
 
2013-03-03 05:00:55 PM
because race only consists of black and white
 
2013-03-03 05:01:29 PM

Richard Sauce: Mentalpatient87: hubiestubert: -but it's only getting more and more apparent that the writers have been trying to avoid a lot of issues by just ignoring them

Why does my zombie TV drama have to address issues?

This this this.

It's a zombie horror thriller, don't give a fark what color folks are. What race are the folks in the source material? They got a black woman, asian dude, black guys here and there (zomg racist!), strong female characters. Let's all complain about how the most racist character is a white guy, that's a racist stereotype in itself, right? Sheesh, people with hammers see nails; it gets so tiresome.

/Carl sucks tho, take off that damn hat. Would love to see him get mauled.


Actually, the fact that they have an Asian character getting the girl IS a huge step in this country. I give them props for that, given that I was born in Okinawa, and my mother was a Japanese national.

The issue isn't so much that they HAVE black characters, it's that those characters are essentially sort of scenery. Strong women is questionable, since all the women have existential crisis every episode or two. The show is set in Georgia, and the survivors are all fairly pale, and I think it has more to do with the writers simply wanting to avoid making characters that are caricature, so they simply don't write much for them. The writers, with the exception of Angela Kang, are all fairly pale. I think it's a sin of omission, less about being outright racist, as simply not having the cultural context, and NOT wanting to screw it up, they simply leave it out. And that omission, is becoming more and more glaring.

Write characters. Write people. Their ethnicity should only really matter when it comes down to specifics. NOTHING about Glenn screasm "I'm Chinese, DAMMIT!" He's a guy, and he has a story, and very little of it hinges on him being Chinese. There was some notes, early in the show, with our Happy Rednecks traveling with some dark folks, but in the end, that sort of drifted off as the characters were shuffled around and turned essentially into scenery, with few lines, and not much for a story. And that is the issue. It's a sin of omission. Especially given that they were leaving frippin' Atlanta...
 
2013-03-03 05:05:12 PM

hubiestubert: The Walking Dead does have some problems with black characters. Yes, they let an Asian male get the girl, which is a victory of sorts in this country, but even still, it just can't seem to have characters of any depth who happen to be darker than cafe au lait. There Can Be Only One IS a good term for how their writers are handling African American characters. And shuffling them off to be tangential characters at best. Are the writers racist? Probably not in the "we're going to burn folks' churches down and run them out of the country!" sense, but for a show set in the South, it is sort of odd that dark faces show up so rarely. I rack it up to simple incompetence and trying very hard to not to fall into racial stereotypes and thus removing themselves from the subject by simply not having African American character be all that integral to the plot is sort of a dodge around the whole issue. It's not what drove me from the show--the weak and grindingly slow plotting did that one--but it's only getting more and more apparent that the writers have been trying to avoid a lot of issues by just ignoring them, and it looks awful odd, given the size of their following.


The biggest issue with the show in that regard turns out not even to be the blatant Black Man revolving door.  For me, it was the unresolved tension between Merle and T-Dogg.  For me, there's a sexist component as well, because now Merle's assholery is directed towards Michonne and has a sexual predator vibe to it.

They couldn't have the biggest racist on the show deal with his racism man to man, they are making him deal with it with a *woman*.  Something is very, very off.  Merle also appears at the prison *after* Tyrese has already left!  Say what?  Again, a chance for Merle to deal with his issues man to man, and they conveniently remove the conflict.

Since Schubert is the Governor's man in Woodbury, there wasn't a chance to show any conflict between Merle and Schubert because Merle the Southern Redneck stereotype was subservient to the Governor Southern Gentleman stereotype.   No way to show it...................... or, was there?  Another missed opportunity.

I don't blame the showrunners, though.  I place the blame where it is deserved: AMC and their executive meddling.
 
2013-03-03 05:08:39 PM
At least there's a new episode of The Walking Dead tonight to help us forget.
 
2013-03-03 05:12:24 PM

Richard Sauce: Mentalpatient87: hubiestubert: -but it's only getting more and more apparent that the writers have been trying to avoid a lot of issues by just ignoring them

Why does my zombie TV drama have to address issues?

This this this.

It's a zombie horror thriller, don't give a fark what color folks are. What race are the folks in the source material? They got a black woman, asian dude, black guys here and there (zomg racist!), strong female characters. Let's all complain about how the most racist character is a white guy, that's a racist stereotype in itself, right? Sheesh, people with hammers see nails; it gets so tiresome.

/Carl sucks tho, take off that damn hat. Would love to see him get mauled.


Carl turned into a bad ass post-putting down Shane.  People still using the 'Where's Carl?' meme haven't been watching Season 3.  That kid is a battle hardened warrior, with sublimated post traumatic stress disorder.  His father, now, his father is cracking... so Carl is having to man up, like a little Angolan child soldier.  The kid has come into his own this season.

As for zombies being stand-ins for social issues,  Dhusk is right: "Because zombies have always been an obvious allegory for a number of things ever since Romero." But then the same can be said for ALL horror stories.  The Zombie, the Vampire, the Werewolf, the Mummy, Frankenstein's Monster, the Alien, the Mutant, the Strain, all are allegories, and their horror is based in what they are allegories for.  Take away the allegory, you take away what makes them horrifying in the first place.
 
2013-03-03 05:13:31 PM

ZeroCorpse: They don't call the undead on The Walking Dead "zombies".

I don't think I've heard them use the word yet. "walkers", "stenches", "biters", "geeks", sure... But not "zombies". The world of TWD is genre-blind.



I only remember that word being used in Romero's "Land of the Dead"
 
2013-03-03 05:17:44 PM

sgtbarthel: I surely hope that cross bow was a dummy prop and purposely created with the string pulled back and the bolt in firing position for realism, because I was cringing at Hader constantly flagging Hart with it.  If not, Hart narrowly missed getting "Brandon Lee'ed".


www.voyagersguidebook.net

On Alternate Earth, the Towers are still standing and this man is still alive with an 80s action oeuvre to make every actor in the Expendables series weep.

/RIP, sweet Phineas
 
2013-03-03 05:23:15 PM

hubiestubert: Write characters. Write people. Their ethnicity should only really matter when it comes down to specifics.


America has race issues. Specifically with black people, African Americans, whatever. The non-mexican, non-arab, non-indian, non-native-american (and if I forgot someone to offend here, sorry) brown people.

Writting a black character 'well' will not win you awards.  Doing one poorly will have Jesse and Al on your ass like white on rice screaming racism and boycott and more negative publicity than you can shake a stick at.  So they have every incentive not to play in that particular realm.

Especially since, in Georgia, especially deep Georgia, you're going to get the hillbilly version of black people. Which would be way to close to caricature for anyone to be comfortable with that, unless the guy happened to be a city-dweller caught out by deus ex machina..
 
2013-03-03 05:35:14 PM
I'd kinda like to watch this, but apparently we're not allowed to have SNL in Canada.  I spend a good minute or two figuring out which combination of allowed scripts would let me watch the video only to get shut down by international copyright law.

If only pirating were half as difficult as going legit.
 
2013-03-03 05:37:29 PM

hubiestubert: The Walking Dead does have some problems with black characters. Yes, they let an Asian male get the girl, which is a victory of sorts in this country, but even still, it just can't seem to have characters of any depth who happen to be darker than cafe au lait. There Can Be Only One IS a good term for how their writers are handling African American characters. And shuffling them off to be tangential characters at best. Are the writers racist? Probably not in the "we're going to burn folks' churches down and run them out of the country!" sense, but for a show set in the South, it is sort of odd that dark faces show up so rarely. I rack it up to simple incompetence and trying very hard to not to fall into racial stereotypes and thus removing themselves from the subject by simply not having African American character be all that integral to the plot is sort of a dodge around the whole issue. It's not what drove me from the show--the weak and grindingly slow plotting did that one--but it's only getting more and more apparent that the writers have been trying to avoid a lot of issues by just ignoring them, and it looks awful odd, given the size of their following.


Glen *was* bad-ass, then he got constant access to pussy; now he's more concerned about protecting the pussy than being a badass.  Plus, Season One Glen would never have been questioned as a Leader, if shiat hit the fan, nevermind as a backup leader.  Season Three Glen has Hershell (whom I love) declaring that Glen isn't up to the challenge... and it doesn't even feel like old Hershell's old racism peeking through, it feels like truth.

Glen had his manhood manhandled in Woodbury.  To get his manhood back, he needs to be in a situation where not only does he witness Maggie holding her own, but he needs to be in a position where Maggie and him are back on equal footing in his head.  Right now, he's in failed caveman mode; it's true to life, but I want Season One Glen back.

I agree with you about the writers ignoring certain issues.  Again, I blame AMC, not necessarily the writers. I also blame the fans who biatched about any semblance of character building as 'boring' and unnecessary because they wanted to see more zombie kills.  I blame them for giving AMC the ammunition to continue their executive meddling.

All of the characters have suffered, even the Official Bad Guy, everyone except the two Redneck Brothers.  I don't know what that says about the show and what AMC's opinion of the viewers is.

As for dark faces not showing up, what I noticed was that if you wanted to see black characters, you needed to look at who the zombies were.  Most people thought they were invisible. I never not saw them :(  I only tried to figure out what it meant after one of Daryl's one handed crossbow kills and again after the contents of Hershell's barn were revealed and there were no people of color inside in spite of the number of black zombie kills in the woods.  Blacks are noticeable as background characters; they're just.. not alive.  For whatever commentary that is meant as.

I want old Glen back.  I want Morgan and Tyrese (and Duane! and Schubert) to exist in the same universe without having to die if two of them share the screen for more than 2 minutes.  I want Axel back (what a funny, engaging guy!).  I want Oscar back. Oscar and Tyrese together, damn.  T-Dog rounding out the trio, triple Damn. Oscar, Tyrese, T-Dog -- and then Schubert saying fark it we out to Dr. Stephens and those two leaving Woodbury to roll with O, T, and Dog. Awesomesauce.  Michonne playing the Sixth Ranger to this group? Oh, hell yes.

In my dreams. Where Jim is still alive to be the Token White Boy in this bad ass group. (You know what they say about the lone white boy in a group of knee-grows.)

Sigh.

Hell, I want Tomas back.  Tomas versus the Governor, Unintentionally Sheltered Thug versus Intentionally Sheltered Despot, sigh.

/and I want that Dixon Brother mini-show mentioned jokingly a couple threads/weeks ago here, where the brothers just go around surviving and killing zombies and bonding week after week
//how would the show have changed if Amy had survived instead of Andrea?
///what character building would Ed have faced if he'd survived?
 
2013-03-03 05:44:51 PM

hubiestubert: Richard Sauce: Mentalpatient87: hubiestubert: -but it's only getting more and more apparent that the writers have been trying to avoid a lot of issues by just ignoring them

Why does my zombie TV drama have to address issues?

This this this.

It's a zombie horror thriller, don't give a fark what color folks are. What race are the folks in the source material? They got a black woman, asian dude, black guys here and there (zomg racist!), strong female characters. Let's all complain about how the most racist character is a white guy, that's a racist stereotype in itself, right? Sheesh, people with hammers see nails; it gets so tiresome.

/Carl sucks tho, take off that damn hat. Would love to see him get mauled.

Actually, the fact that they have an Asian character getting the girl IS a huge step in this country. I give them props for that, given that I was born in Okinawa, and my mother was a Japanese national.

The issue isn't so much that they HAVE black characters, it's that those characters are essentially sort of scenery. Strong women is questionable, since all the women have existential crisis every episode or two. The show is set in Georgia, and the survivors are all fairly pale, and I think it has more to do with the writers simply wanting to avoid making characters that are caricature, so they simply don't write much for them. The writers, with the exception of Angela Kang, are all fairly pale. I think it's a sin of omission, less about being outright racist, as simply not having the cultural context, and NOT wanting to screw it up, they simply leave it out. And that omission, is becoming more and more glaring.

Write characters. Write people. Their ethnicity should only really matter when it comes down to specifics. NOTHING about Glenn screasm "I'm Chinese, DAMMIT!" He's a guy, and he has a story, and very little of it hinges on him being Chinese. There was some notes, early in the show, with our Happy Rednecks traveling with some dark folks, but in the end, ...


I think what we're saying is that one ought not look to a zombie show to take up the task of developing compelling characters of one particular race or another. I think criticisms of the plot sluggishness and weakness of characters are valid and relevant, but had this show not become so popular, who would even care and/or be surprised by its omission of a perceived compelling AA male character. Michone is a compelling AA female character, does she count less because she is a woman? 2012 census shows about 2/3 of Georgia being white, so the racial make-up of their survival group is not statistically absurd, especially if you consider two families comprise a large percentage of their band. Again, I don't know enough about the source material, but I would imagine the character ethnicity is constrained by the comic.

As a show about zombies and people trying to survive a zombie apocalypse, the race of the characters is so far down the list of priorities concerning what makes the show good that I cannot understand this being a recurring hang-up for so many people. If you want to call it a "sin of omission" fine, but how is that a sin worth so much consternation when it's a zombie show.

Movies like Night of The Living Dead and Dawn of The Dead had AA male protagonists, but I would never count that as something that made them better or worse as zombie movies.
 
2013-03-03 05:48:32 PM
You mean like this? (NSFW language)
 
2013-03-03 05:50:17 PM
Well, that skit simply confirms why I haven't watched SNL in years.  It's not funny and doesn't appear to have any other redeeming qualities.
 
2013-03-03 05:51:49 PM

The Man Who Laughs: I'd kinda like to watch this, but apparently we're not allowed to have SNL in Canada.  I spend a good minute or two figuring out which combination of allowed scripts would let me watch the video only to get shut down by international copyright law.

If only pirating were half as difficult as going legit.


You're REALLY not missing anything.  Go to Youtube.  Search for cats.  Click on the 34th page of results, close your eyes, click one of the videos at random.  Guaranteed to be more entertaining that this video.
 
2013-03-03 05:52:17 PM

ExperianScaresCthulhu: Carl turned into a bad ass post-putting down Shane.  People still using the 'Where's Carl?' meme haven't been watching Season 3.


I just finished season 2. The "Where's Carl?" meme exaggerated reality to say the least. I was expecting every other episode to be a "Where's Carl?" episode, but that was far from the case. The few times that Carl's whereabouts were unknown, I don't recall that finding him suddenly became the focus of the episode. (Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, as if I need to give you permission.) THAT was what I was dreading.
 
2013-03-03 05:53:38 PM
This seems apropo:
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2013-03-03 06:00:47 PM

Richard Sauce: Movies like Night of The Living Dead and Dawn of The Dead had AA male protagonists, but I would never count that as something that made them better or worse as zombie movies.


Night of the Living Dead's Ben and Dawn of the Dead's Peter being strong, virile, resourceful African-American men damn well did make those movies not only better zombie movies, but better movies in general. Their African-American-ness was an Extra Special Sauce, but their characters were treated mainstream white, so that context was added to the role by the viewers themselves. It elevated both the stories beyond just 'let's watch shiat get killed'.

Ben and Peter were Historic, and were Forerunners.  They were the best actors for the jobs, and the symbolism attached to what could have been generic white roles for generic white men was a plus.  It was a plus because it wasn't intentionally written in, it was added by the viewers themselves.  Everyone loves a mirror, even when it's uncomfortable.

/See also:  Bruce Lee as Kato
 
2013-03-03 06:05:35 PM
Well there's the black chick with the katana and the black couple that got kicked out by Crazy Rick and joined up with the Governor, how many black characters do you need?
 
2013-03-03 06:08:13 PM

hubiestubert: He's a guy, and he has a story, and very little of it hinges on him being Chinese.


Korean.

Anyway, the skit would have been funnier if they had two black characters who knew about the "One Black Man" rule and spent the skit trying not to be the guy that gets killed.
 
2013-03-03 06:08:59 PM

Mugato: Well there's the black chick with the katana and the black couple that got kicked out by Crazy Rick and joined up with the Governor, how many black characters do you need?


The gag is the One Black Man rule, not how many show up over the course of the show.
 
2013-03-03 06:10:25 PM

Mentat: Mugato: Well there's the black chick with the katana and the black couple that got kicked out by Crazy Rick and joined up with the Governor, how many black characters do you need?

The gag is the One Black Man rule, not how many show up over the course of the show.


Right, all three of them them were in the same episode.
 
2013-03-03 06:20:16 PM
Meh. In Night of the Living Dead original, even though the last person living in the house was a black man, he still got killed.

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2013-03-03 06:27:49 PM
I don't hate on SNL on a regular basis. I watch about half of their episodes, and I generally enjoy it.  This episode was ass.  Kevin Hart's monologue was enjoyable, and after that, nothing but Weekend Update was worth a damn.  Even that was weak.  The Walking Dead sketch had possibilities, but they didn't exploit it.
 
2013-03-03 06:29:34 PM

Mentat: hubiestubert: He's a guy, and he has a story, and very little of it hinges on him being Chinese.

Korean.

Anyway, the skit would have been funnier if they had two black characters who knew about the "One Black Man" rule and spent the skit trying not to be the guy that gets killed.


You are correct. That was my mistake. And yeah, One Black Man Only would have been a lot funnier, if it weren't already so damn true...
 
2013-03-03 06:30:08 PM
I really want to see Andrea completely naked.
 
2013-03-03 06:30:30 PM

imagonyx123: You mean like this? (NSFW language)


Yeah

Remember way back when when it was funny?
 
2013-03-03 06:32:54 PM

Mugato: Mentat: Mugato: Well there's the black chick with the katana and the black couple that got kicked out by Crazy Rick and joined up with the Governor, how many black characters do you need?

The gag is the One Black Man rule, not how many show up over the course of the show.

Right, all three of them them were in the same episode.


What part of One Black Man do you not understand?
 
2013-03-03 06:56:27 PM
I agree with the view that it's not overt racism, but some kind of sin of omission.   You can blame the comic, since that's where the story and characters come from, but then how do you explain the addition of Merle and Daryl?   Two of the more compelling characters on the show turn out to be not from the comic.

It just seems to be to be an obvious move, if you're building a tv show from established source material, that you would examine what you have to work with then plan your additions or changes to compensate for what is clearly missing.

In the case of The Walking Dead, it's the post apocalypse!  You have the golden opportunity to work with a diverse cast, that alone would add drama.   For instance, imagine Shane had been a black guy.  Suddenly the lame 'been there done that' love triangle takes on all kinds of interesting new subtext while the same time getting a black actor a more substantial role from the start.

But to do anything like that the showrunners would have to make a specific effort, it isn't going to happen by magic.  I don't think making any such effort is a priority for them.
 
2013-03-03 06:57:16 PM
my god the entertainment tab is awful
 
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