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(Slate)   "The most terrifying books for children are the ones where the book itself is being read to the children in the story." BOOKCEPTION   (slate.com) divider line 90
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2013-03-03 03:37:11 PM  
"Who Pooped in the Sonoran Desert" is one that my three year old boy currently enjoys. There are sister books for many of the National Parks that I will be adding to the collection.
 
2013-03-03 03:37:42 PM  

DB: What happened to everyone's sense of humor? Are we now taking everything we read on the internet seriously? Poe's Law I guess.


I'm not surprised that Somacandra misread the article; she never struck me as particularly intelligent. I'm disappointed, however, to see people agreeing with her misreading. They probably consider themselves good readers, too.
 
2013-03-03 03:37:58 PM  

Uisce Beatha: What about movies in which the book is being read to the kid on screen?

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//DNRTFA


This. I watched The Princess Bride last night and thought how there's a genre of movies with kids being read a book:

Princess Bride
The Point
The Neverending Story
A few that don't come to mind right now
 
2013-03-03 04:00:09 PM  
Terrifying books for children?

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Sweet dreams.
 
2013-03-03 04:00:35 PM  
Creepiest book ever
shaungroves.com
 
2013-03-03 04:02:28 PM  
Peggy Rathburn is the best at this sort of thing.  And the awesome part is that her references are so subtle that you might not notice them until years after your kids are all grown up and you're reading the books to your grandkids.  Who will spot it right away and make you feel like an idiot, and then you'll ask your kids about it, and they'll be all like "what? you never noticed that?  Why do you think we made you read those books a gazillion times when we were kids?"

Go read your kid "Ten Minutes to Bedtime" by Peggy Rathburn and see if you can spot what I'm talking about.  No hintsies.
 
2013-03-03 04:06:43 PM  
Came for Lovable, Furry, Old Grover, leaving Dénoued.
 
2013-03-03 04:07:15 PM  
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2013-03-03 04:09:42 PM  

Bastard Toadflax: Uisce Beatha: What about movies in which the book is being read to the kid on screen?

[cf.drafthouse.com image 450x314]

/Hot
//DNRTFA

This. I watched The Princess Bride last night and thought how there's a genre of movies with kids being read a book:

Princess Bride
The Point
The Neverending Story
A few that don't come to mind right now


<i>Stand By Me</i> was a weird variation of that, the whole story being an author writing a memoir for himself about his childhood.
 
2013-03-03 04:16:08 PM  

LarryDan43: Creepiest book ever
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Seriously...didn't it involve the mom creeping across the floor of his room once he was an adult so she could cradle him?  (shudder)...

/still gets a bit dusty in the room at the end...
 
2013-03-03 04:19:35 PM  

spunkymunky: "Who Pooped in the Sonoran Desert" is one that my three year old boy currently enjoys. There are sister books for many of the National Parks that I will be adding to the collection.


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Who pooped in the park?  In my neighborhood park, it's usually a guy that looks like this:

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2013-03-03 04:21:37 PM  

JrNeutron: Inception isn't a dream in a dream. Inception is putting an idea in someone's mind and having them think it is an original thought of their own. So the whole (anything)ception trend is based off of misinterpreted information or just general laziness in an attempt at being creative or witty.


But Inception does have dreams within dreams, in order to plant the idea.
 
2013-03-03 04:29:58 PM  

D Ray Morton:


Simply one of the greatest books of all time. Ever.
 
2013-03-03 04:30:18 PM  
Phew!  At first I thought It was just me.  I'm reading and reading and trying to understand, but it just isn't happening.  I blamed the fact that I just woke up  a few minutes ago.  Now I see that it was an article written by Mushmouth.
 
2013-03-03 04:34:07 PM  

Bob_Laublaw: That was the height of literary masturbation.


agreed
 
2013-03-03 04:36:46 PM  
Sorry, forgot

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had a boat load of similar but can't find them, apologies
 
2013-03-03 04:39:54 PM  

D Ray Morton:


The awesome unknown person who runs the Sesame Street Twitter feed recreated this book with a series of tweets about a month ago. I happened to be checking my feed right as it started. It was one of the greatest things that ever happened on the internet, and I got to watch it live.

/WHY DID YOU RETWEET THAT?!?!
 
2013-03-03 04:45:32 PM  

JrNeutron: Am I the only one who really watched that piece of trash movie? Inception isn't a dream in a dream. Inception is putting an idea in someone's mind and having them think it is an original thought of their own. So the whole (anything)ception trend is based off of misinterpreted information or just general laziness in an attempt at being creative or witty.


Apparently you're the only one who didn't notice that the name of the movie was Inception, and the meme is referring to the movie and the nested dreams within said movie and not specifically the definition of "inception" given within the movie.  Though I have to say I rather enjoy the irony of you misinterpreting the meme and complaining about how other people are the ones doing the misinterpreting.

"I don't properly understand something, but it's all of YOU who don't really understand it!"
 
2013-03-03 04:45:48 PM  
As someone who does research in American postmodern literature and has taught modern literature in the college classroom, I'm getting a laugh out of these replies
 
2013-03-03 04:46:11 PM  
Stupid reaching essay reaching stupid
 
2013-03-03 04:50:01 PM  

JrNeutron: Am I the only one who really watched that piece of trash movie?


I rather enjoyed (most) of that piece of trash movie, thank you.

Inception isn't a dream in a dream.

Actually, the idea of a dream within a dream is an important element of the plotline in the movie.

Inception is putting an idea in someone's mind and having them think it is an original thought of their own.

Which, according to movie science, can only be accomplished by invoking a dream within a dream (within a dream);  so the act of putting an outside idea into someone's mind will appear to be coming from the targets own subconcious instead of being rejected as an artificial thought.

So the whole (anything)ception trend is based off of misinterpreted information or just general laziness in an attempt at being creative or witty.

I'd say its more of a farkism.  Or a deliberate misrepresentation of the concept to appeal to those for whom the original explanation is less obscure.

/I am a little dissapointed that subby didn't include the *BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHM* effect in the headline.
 
2013-03-03 04:53:21 PM  

Somacandra: As someone who does research in American postmodern literature and has taught modern literature in the college classroom


Where do you teach, by the way? I want to make sure I advise people not to go there.
 
2013-03-03 04:57:34 PM  

SubBass49: spunkymunky: "Who Pooped in the Sonoran Desert" is one that my three year old boy currently enjoys. There are sister books for many of the National Parks that I will be adding to the collection.



Who pooped in the park?  In my neighborhood park, it's usually a guy that looks like this:


But what do his tracks look like? Are there regional variations to what he's called?
 
2013-03-03 05:09:35 PM  
HELP!!

Can someone please help me find the Kids in the Hall sketch about the guy who wrote the sketch, and forgot to write the ending?

I thought it was funny as nuts when I first saw it, but haven't been able to find it again since.

Kinda relevant, right?
 
2013-03-03 05:21:34 PM  

I created this alt just for this thread: JrNeutron: Am I the only one who really watched that piece of trash movie? Inception isn't a dream in a dream. Inception is putting an idea in someone's mind and having them think it is an original thought of their own. So the whole (anything)ception trend is based off of misinterpreted information or just general laziness in an attempt at being creative or witty.

Apparently you're the only one who didn't notice that the name of the movie was Inception, and the meme is referring to the movie and the nested dreams within said movie and not specifically the definition of "inception" given within the movie.  Though I have to say I rather enjoy the irony of you misinterpreting the meme and complaining about how other people are the ones doing the misinterpreting.

"I don't properly understand something, but it's all of YOU who don't really understand it!"


www.technovelgy.com

So by your logic this is "Matrixing" and not just dodging bullets because the movie is named the Matrix after the program world called the Matrix which Neo manipulated the physics of to bend his body like this in order to dodge the bullets fired at him. Thus giving us "Matrixing"?
 
2013-03-03 05:33:48 PM  

calbert: JrNeutron: Am I the only one who really watched that piece of trash movie? Inception isn't a dream in a dream. Inception is putting an idea in someone's mind and having them think it is an original thought of their own. So the whole (anything)ception trend is based off of misinterpreted information or just general laziness in an attempt at being creative or witty.

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What the what?  I'm rewatching the entire series and I recently saw the one where he gave Liz the extra-super sleep meds for the plane. So... did he really say that?
 
2013-03-03 05:38:43 PM  

JrNeutron: I created this alt just for this thread: JrNeutron: Am I the only one who really watched that piece of trash movie? Inception isn't a dream in a dream. Inception is putting an idea in someone's mind and having them think it is an original thought of their own. So the whole (anything)ception trend is based off of misinterpreted information or just general laziness in an attempt at being creative or witty.

Apparently you're the only one who didn't notice that the name of the movie was Inception, and the meme is referring to the movie and the nested dreams within said movie and not specifically the definition of "inception" given within the movie.  Though I have to say I rather enjoy the irony of you misinterpreting the meme and complaining about how other people are the ones doing the misinterpreting.

"I don't properly understand something, but it's all of YOU who don't really understand it!"

[www.technovelgy.com image 450x189]

So by your logic this is "Matrixing" and not just dodging bullets because the movie is named the Matrix after the program world called the Matrix which Neo manipulated the physics of to bend his body like this in order to dodge the bullets fired at him. Thus giving us "Matrixing"?


Matrixing is short for 'dodging bullets in the fashion of the movie 'The Matrix'.
 
2013-03-03 06:10:12 PM  
And the troll snaps shut his brass-bound briefcase.  He turns his back on his well-earned attention and slinks home from his job at Slate.com, satisfied that his day's work is done.
 
2013-03-03 06:19:35 PM  
Best childrens book EVER.

Go the fark to Sleep - Read by Samuel L. Jackson
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CseO1XRYs9I
 
2013-03-03 07:07:48 PM  
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2013-03-03 07:09:00 PM  
or possibly more scary for the child

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2013-03-03 07:12:02 PM  

Jument: calbert: JrNeutron: Am I the only one who really watched that piece of trash movie? Inception isn't a dream in a dream. Inception is putting an idea in someone's mind and having them think it is an original thought of their own. So the whole (anything)ception trend is based off of misinterpreted information or just general laziness in an attempt at being creative or witty.

[cdn.uproxx.com image 500x282]

What the what?  I'm rewatching the entire series and I recently saw the one where he gave Liz the extra-super sleep meds for the plane. So... did he really say that?


Double-Edged Sword

season 5 ep 14

it's the opening line.
 
2013-03-03 08:11:02 PM  

NutWrench: baka-san: What the hell did I just read?

You know how stoners on hallucinogens speculate about how atoms in their fingertips could contain entire universes? And how our universe is just an atom in the fingertip of a being residing in an even vaster universe? Basically, the children's version of that.


By stoners on hallucinogens you mean every kid before he's 12. it's moment down a path people take. no need to ridicule thought experiments. Have fun with it. Learn something about a lake looking at a puddle, all that.
 
2013-03-03 08:43:15 PM  

Abox: JrNeutron: I created this alt just for this thread: JrNeutron: Am I the only one who really watched that piece of trash movie? Inception isn't a dream in a dream. Inception is putting an idea in someone's mind and having them think it is an original thought of their own. So the whole (anything)ception trend is based off of misinterpreted information or just general laziness in an attempt at being creative or witty.

Apparently you're the only one who didn't notice that the name of the movie was Inception, and the meme is referring to the movie and the nested dreams within said movie and not specifically the definition of "inception" given within the movie.  Though I have to say I rather enjoy the irony of you misinterpreting the meme and complaining about how other people are the ones doing the misinterpreting.

"I don't properly understand something, but it's all of YOU who don't really understand it!"

[www.technovelgy.com image 450x189]

So by your logic this is "Matrixing" and not just dodging bullets because the movie is named the Matrix after the program world called the Matrix which Neo manipulated the physics of to bend his body like this in order to dodge the bullets fired at him. Thus giving us "Matrixing"?

Matrixing is short for 'dodging bullets in the fashion of the movie 'The Matrix'.


Do I look like I use Urban Fictionary to you?
 
2013-03-04 09:19:41 AM  

Somacandra: As someone who does research in American postmodern literature and has taught modern literature in the college classroom, I would just like to state unequivocally that this "essay" is unbelieveably stupid. Borges would have punched this guy in the 'nads. And as a parent, I like most others caught the intertexual references in Margaret Wise Brown's books the first time, and we point it out to our kids. And she does it in Our World, too. My kids LOVE seeing intertextual references that build a self-enclosed narrative world with different books as different entry points. Nothing terrifying at all. And like Borges, I too want to punch the author in the 'nads. This piece is a perfect example of exegesis as eisegesis----what he got out of the text is nothing but what he projected into the text.


I came into this thread to be angry about the article but wow Soma kind of hit it out of the park.  The article basically fails at being funny or thoughtful.  "OMG IN THIS BOOK THE AUTHOR PUT A REFERENCE TO ANOTHER BOOK THEY WROTE, LOOK AT ME PRETEND HOW SCARY THAT IS.  ISN'T THAT FUNNY!" Maybe if I was stoned or less intelligent.  Sorry Author, if this is a prime example what "Believed" is selling, I don't want to buy it.
 
2013-03-04 12:19:54 PM  
"If you speak ironically and I take you literally, if the power goes off for the third time this week and you say 'Oh, that's great' and I think you really mean it, I am wrong, period, and even more in the dark than everybody else." - John Kilgore

Good lord. You're all idiots. And the scariest thing is that you all probably consider yourselves good readers.
 
2013-03-04 02:24:31 PM  

James F. Campbell: "If you speak ironically and I take you literally, if the power goes off for the third time this week and you say 'Oh, that's great' and I think you really mean it, I am wrong, period, and even more in the dark than everybody else." - John Kilgore

Good lord. You're all idiots. And the scariest thing is that you all probably consider yourselves good readers.


Yeah but if I tell a stupid unfunny joke and you don't laugh at the joke because you don't get it because of an obscure reference that doesn't mean it was a good joke to begin with just because someone else gets the references.
You can dress up intellectualism however you want.  (And boy do you, holy crap your profile is TL;DR personified, I had to check to make sure you weren't shilling for TFA) But that doesn't make the joke good, funny, or worthwhile.
 
2013-03-04 02:57:22 PM  

SharkaPult: Yeah but if I tell a stupid unfunny joke and you don't laugh at the joke because you don't get it because of an obscure reference that doesn't mean it was a good joke to begin with just because someone else gets the references.


You don't get to pat yourself on the back for having outsmarted the author of this article if you have grossly misunderstood (as Soma did) what he was trying to say.

SharkaPult: You can dress up intellectualism however you want.


I'm sorry that you've bought into the conservative lie that intellectual is a dirty word. It isn't. Let me give you a tip: when you call someone who knows what they're talking about pretentious, what you are really advertising is "I don't know what you're talking about."

Also, I find it hilarious that you're calling me a dressed-up intellectual even though I'm not the one who throws around phrases like "exegesis as eisegesis" (incorrectly, I might add) and gets praised for it. In short: go fark yourself.
 
2013-03-04 04:03:26 PM  

James F. Campbell: SharkaPult: Yeah but if I tell a stupid unfunny joke and you don't laugh at the joke because you don't get it because of an obscure reference that doesn't mean it was a good joke to begin with just because someone else gets the references.

You don't get to pat yourself on the back for having outsmarted the author of this article if you have grossly
misunderstood (as Soma did) what he was trying to say.


I'm not patting myself on the back for outsmarting the author.  I just don't see why you think it is so brilliant when it is poorly written, poorly executed and not funny.  They can use some concepts and terms... mostly correctly.  Ehh, I'm not turning your opinion on this so I'm kind of done.

SharkaPult: You can dress up intellectualism however you want.

I'm sorry that you've bought into the conservative lie that intellectual is a dirty word. It isn't. Let me give you a tip: when you call someone who knows what they're talking about pretentious, what you are really advertising is "I don't know what you're talking about."


Firstly, I'm not Conservative.  AT ALL.  I know I don't have a novel up on my profile explaining my life's philosophies ad naseum so you would obviously assume that.  I have a higher degree in the arts, ffs.
I am however sick of people who pack an article or piece full of 101-level ideas then get paraded about like a friggen guru.  I'm pretty sure I see what you do, really.  I just don't see why you are all throwing a parade for it.


Also, I find it hilarious that you're calling me a dressed-up intellectual even though I'm not the one who throws around phrases like "exegesis as eisegesis" (incorrectly, I might add) and gets praised for it. In short: go fark yourself.

I didn't use that phrase.  I have to assume your comprehension is lacking.  While I was angry at the article, SOMA just took it to another level I really couldn't be bothered with.  Yes, some of their response was pretentious.  I'm not denying that.  I didn't however insult you.  Well directly.  Realistically I don't see any reason to get an intelligence-boner over this article.

I also see a "Jeremy Campbell" White Knighting this article in the Slate comments.  While it might be a coincidence I really have to rhetorically think.  What is your angle? (I really don't care, please don't respond)
/not fixed for typos I'm not giving any more thought to this.
 
2013-03-04 08:41:18 PM  

SharkaPult: What is your angle?


Because I'm farking puzzled, you see. I'm puzzled that everyone is up in arms over this article and treating the author as if he's serious -- thus missing the layer of irony. They're not saying, "Oh, his joke is lame," like you are. They're treating him as if what he is saying is serious. They're not even aware of a joke.

If everyone responding to him with such rage is such a good farking reader of books, then how come they missed the author's obvious irony?
 
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