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(CNN)   Gen. Goubongue say Moktar Belmoktar the Belaouar of the Al-Mulathameen has been killed. Darmok and Jalad left inconsolate at Tanagra   (cnn.com) divider line 91
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2013-03-03 01:19:59 PM  
Shakakhan well the disco fell.......
 
2013-03-03 01:24:19 PM  
img202.imageshack.us
 
2013-03-03 01:25:08 PM  
i89.photobucket.com
/hot
 
2013-03-03 01:25:22 PM  
I feel ridiculous that I got this, but I see that I have plenty of company.
 
2013-03-03 01:37:40 PM  

wickedg: Will someone please post the explanation for people who don't get TNG references.

\too lazy


Short version: They met an alien race that talked only in memes and cliches.  They would parrot phrases referencing legends and history of their people, and that's it.  "Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra" was one of their more common phrases.

Imagine if Fark was nothing but image memes, inside jokes, movie and TV show references, and cliched callbacks to older threads. . .you don't have to imagine very hard.  Yeah, now imagine if an entire civilization communicated like that.

/Romero, explaining blogs. . .
 
2013-03-03 01:45:47 PM  

Silverstaff: wickedg: Will someone please post the explanation for people who don't get TNG references.

\too lazy

Short version: They met an alien race that talked only in memes and cliches.  They would parrot phrases referencing legends and history of their people, and that's it.  "Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra" was one of their more common phrases.

Imagine if Fark was nothing but image memes, inside jokes, movie and TV show references, and cliched callbacks to older threads. . .you don't have to imagine very hard.  Yeah, now imagine if an entire civilization communicated like that.

/Romero, explaining blogs. . .


Slightly longer version (shamelessly copied from wikipedia)

The senior crew discuss their latest mission: to make contact with the Tamarian race who have been transmitting signals toward Federation space for weeks. The Enterprise makes contact with a Tamarian ship in orbit around the planet El-Adrel. Though the universal translator can translate their words, the Tamarians only communicate through metaphor which baffles the Enterprise crew. Likewise, the Tamarians cannot understand Picard's straightforward use of language. Frustrated by their failure at communication, the Tamarian captain, Dathon, has himself and Captain Picard transported to the planet's surface. The Tamarians then create a scattering field in the planetary atmosphere to prevent transport functions from being used on either captain. On the surface, Dathon utters the metaphorical phrase "Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra" and tosses Picard a dagger. Picard mistakes this as a challenge to a duel and refuses. As night falls, Picard fails to make a fire and Captain Dathon shares his fire with the phrase "Temba, his arms wide". The next morning, Dathon comes running and then Picard realizes that there is also a hostile predator in the area that is stalking them both. Picard finally begins to understand the way the other race communicates when he recites one of the metaphors and sees the meaning underneath it. The two attempt to fight the beast together, but, because of the Enterprise's ultimately unsuccessful transporter attempt preventing Picard from participating in the battle, Dathon is mortally wounded.
On the Enterprise, First Officer Riker and the crew struggle to understand the alien's language and Riker has Commander Data work with ship's counselorTroi in hopes of translating it. Lt. Worf, in the meantime, thinks that the Captain is being tested as a warrior and advocates an aggressive stance which Riker says he will take as a last option. Riker has Worf take a shuttlecraft to try to retrieve the Captain which fails when the aliens disable the craft and force it to return to the Enterprise. Chief Engineer La Forge and Worf work on a way to disable the Tamarian's scattering field to beam up Picard, while Troi and Data work on deciphering the Tamarian language. They deduce that the Tamarian language is entirely based on metaphors from Tamarian folklore. They learn that Darmok was a hunter and Tanagra is an island, but nothing else. Without knowing the stories behind the metaphors, the Tamarian language remains indecipherable.
While tending to Dathon's wounds, Picard deduces that Darmok and Jalad were two warriors who met on an island called Tanagra, and had to cooperate to defeat a dangerous beast dwelling there, becoming friends in the process. Dathon tried to recreate this event between him and Picard on El-Adrel, hoping that their shared adversity would forge a friendship where words had failed. Picard recounts for Dathon the Epic of Gilgamesh, a human story that parallels the allegory of Darmok and Jalad's. Dathon succumbs to his wounds.
The Enterprise fires on the Tamarian ship, disabling the scattering field, and beams up Picard. Picard uses his newfound knowledge of Tamarian metaphors to communicate with the Tamarians and end the battle; the Tamarians record the story as "Picard and Dathon at El-Adrel", adding a new phrase to their language. Picard mourns Dathon, who sacrificed his life to open relations between their two cultures.
 
2013-03-03 01:52:23 PM  

STRYPERSWINE: I feel ridiculous that I got this, but I see that I have plenty of company.


Here? On Fark? You underestimate the geekness of this place.
 
2013-03-03 02:27:30 PM  
i.imgur.com

1991 was over twenty years ago.

Most Farkers weren't even born when we were watching this.
 
2013-03-03 02:28:54 PM  
tyguy101aa, his sides splitting.
 
2013-03-03 02:40:51 PM  

Silverstaff: wickedg: Will someone please post the explanation for people who don't get TNG references.

\too lazy

Short version: They met an alien race that talked only in memes and cliches.  They would parrot phrases referencing legends and history of their people, and that's it.  "Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra" was one of their more common phrases.

Imagine if Fark was nothing but image memes, inside jokes, movie and TV show references, and cliched callbacks to older threads. . .you don't have to imagine very hard.  Yeah, now imagine if an entire civilization communicated like that.

/Romero, explaining blogs. . .


Kinda... sorta... we are a civilization that talks like that. Granted, the civilization on TNG seemed to have lost the ability, even the concept of speaking literally.

But just think about how many times you reference something that you, your circle of friends, or even those with whom you share a language understand, but might be completely lost on someone from another background. A movie you've all seen. An event you all know about. A piece of literature that was widely read or taught in your language. Every time you use a name, or a term, or a phrase that represents more than the sum of its words, you are doing what that species was doing.

If a civilization had enough common experiences it could be an efficient way to communicate. Sort of a language compression. But meet up with another civilization... and you end up battling to the death with invisible creatures like Picard and Dathon at El-Adrel on TNG. And you won't get over it... like Ted at Macho Grande.

/I liked that episode. More after I watched it a few times.
 
2013-03-03 03:01:09 PM  
Meh. This reference is overused around here and I never liked that episode much anyway. Silly communication system.

Also, "the Al-Mulathameen" is redundant.
 
2013-03-03 03:01:31 PM  

weltallica: [i.imgur.com image 300x229]

1991 was over twenty years ago.

Most Farkers weren't even born when we were watching this.


i291.photobucket.com

Trigger; with phaser inward!
 
2013-03-03 03:18:03 PM  

weltallica: [i.imgur.com image 300x229]

1991 was over twenty years ago.

Most Farkers weren't even born when we were watching this.


MOST farkers...

Some farkers. For certain. Many farkers, for sure. But given the number of lawns, and the bellowing to remove oneself hither, I suspect your estimation on the distribution of farker ages is a little off.

/And I finally have a lawn
 
2013-03-03 03:22:27 PM  
Was this guy second in command, too?
 
2013-03-03 03:56:25 PM  
Conan and Jay at NBC.
 
2013-03-03 04:13:00 PM  

Silverstaff: wickedg: Will someone please post the explanation for people who don't get TNG references.

\too lazy

Short version: They met an alien race that talked only in memes and cliches.  They would parrot phrases referencing legends and history of their people, and that's it.  "Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra" was one of their more common phrases.

Imagine if Fark was nothing but image memes, inside jokes, movie and TV show references, and cliched callbacks to older threads. . .you don't have to imagine very hard.  Yeah, now imagine if an entire civilization communicated like that.

/Romero, explaining blogs. . .


Citzen Kane, clapping slowly.
 
2013-03-03 04:18:26 PM  

zamboni: Silverstaff: wickedg: Will someone please post the explanation for people who don't get TNG references.

\too lazy

Short version: They met an alien race that talked only in memes and cliches.  They would parrot phrases referencing legends and history of their people, and that's it.  "Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra" was one of their more common phrases.

Imagine if Fark was nothing but image memes, inside jokes, movie and TV show references, and cliched callbacks to older threads. . .you don't have to imagine very hard.  Yeah, now imagine if an entire civilization communicated like that.

/Romero, explaining blogs. . .

Kinda... sorta... we are a civilization that talks like that. Granted, the civilization on TNG seemed to have lost the ability, even the concept of speaking literally.

But just think about how many times you reference something that you, your circle of friends, or even those with whom you share a language understand, but might be completely lost on someone from another background. A movie you've all seen. An event you all know about. A piece of literature that was widely read or taught in your language. Every time you use a name, or a term, or a phrase that represents more than the sum of its words, you are doing what that species was doing.

If a civilization had enough common experiences it could be an efficient way to communicate. Sort of a language compression. But meet up with another civilization... and you end up battling to the death with invisible creatures like Picard and Dathon at El-Adrel on TNG. And you won't get over it... like Ted at Macho Grande.

/I liked that episode. More after I watched it a few times.


Major plot hole: How would a 2 year old Tamarian learn to speak?
 
2013-03-03 04:24:49 PM  

weltallica: [i.imgur.com image 300x229]

1991 was over twenty years ago.

Most Farkers weren't even born when we were watching this.


Fark.
 
2013-03-03 04:36:06 PM  

weltallica: [i.imgur.com image 300x229]

1991 was over twenty years ago.

Most Farkers weren't even born when we were watching this.


I realize Television is too old a medium for the Yutes of today, but that show *is* playing somewhere all the time - It's like I Love Lucy for Christ's sake.

\yes I know, If it's not on your phone, or in your Hulu queue, it never happened
 
2013-03-03 05:01:28 PM  
bwahhaha!
Im in a diner having breakfast.
First I'm cracking up at the HL, and now at all the wise guys in the thread.
I don't think you other guys should have explained the HL.
You killed the funny.......
/I vote for HLOTY
 
2013-03-03 05:03:42 PM  

Flab: Major plot hole: How would a 2 year old Tamarian learn to speak?


Like we learn to talk. Except they start with simple metaphors and work their way up.

Instead of "Mama!" they learn "Like (famous mother) to (famous child)"  e.g. Like Hillary to Chelsea!

Hey... I never said growing up Tamarian would be easy! Sounds hellish.

"Look... I just wanted change for a fiver. No... I can't think of anyone in all of literary history that asked for change for a fiver. Helooo?"
 
2013-03-03 05:11:56 PM  
Subby: Temba, his arms wide.
 
2013-03-03 05:15:18 PM  

no clever name here just move along:

I don't think you other guys should have explained the HL.

Picard and Dathon at El-Adrel.
 
2013-03-03 05:17:50 PM  

zamboni:

Instead of "Mama!" they learn "Like (famous mother) to (famous child)" e.g. Like Hillary to Chelsea!

Joan Crawford, wire hanger upraised.
 
2013-03-03 05:20:53 PM  
zamboni
"Look... I just wanted change for a fiver. No... I can't think of anyone in all of literary history that asked for change for a fiver. Helooo?"

According to Memory Alpha:
The Tamarian language is explored further in the short story "Friends with the Sparrows" from the TNG anthology The Sky's the Limit. In the story, it is explained that Tamarians have a fundamentally different brain structure to most humanoids, and as such experience concepts such as time and self differently.

The story explains that Tamarian children learn the stories behind the metaphors, and thus their meanings, through enactment and repetition. Variations of meaning in metaphors were conveyed through subtle vocal and gestural cues that the universal translator had previously missed. In fields such as engineering and programming, a musical language was used to convey precise equations, numbers and instructions; thus explaining how Tamarians could effectively operate starships.
 
2013-03-03 06:16:59 PM  

Thanks for the Meme-ries: weltallica: [i.imgur.com image 300x229]

1991 was over twenty years ago.

Most Farkers weren't even born when we were watching this.

[i291.photobucket.com image 392x496]

Trigger; with phaser inward!


They were... victorious. But... Enkidu fell to the ground, struck down by the gods. And Gilgamesh... wept bitter tears, saying, "He who was my companion, through adventure and hardship, is gone forever."

wonderful headline
 
2013-03-03 07:02:20 PM  

GeneralJim: zamboni: Instead of "Mama!" they learn "Like (famous mother) to (famous child)" e.g. Like Hillary to Chelsea!
Joan Crawford, wire hanger upraised.


Richie and Howard at Arnold's, their smiles wide.
 
2013-03-03 07:06:58 PM  

RanDomino: zamboni
"Look... I just wanted change for a fiver. No... I can't think of anyone in all of literary history that asked for change for a fiver. Helooo?"

According to Memory Alpha:
The Tamarian language is explored further in the short story "Friends with the Sparrows" from the TNG anthology The Sky's the Limit. In the story, it is explained that Tamarians have a fundamentally different brain structure to most humanoids, and as such experience concepts such as time and self differently.

The story explains that Tamarian children learn the stories behind the metaphors, and thus their meanings, through enactment and repetition. Variations of meaning in metaphors were conveyed through subtle vocal and gestural cues that the universal translator had previously missed. In fields such as engineering and programming, a musical language was used to convey precise equations, numbers and instructions; thus explaining how Tamarians could effectively operate starships.


Riiight.

This explanation was surely given by someone who has never had kids.

To be able to infer the meaning of the story, one has to be able to understand the concept. A child needs to undertand "want" and "juice" before she can infer the meaning of "Lootie, his tub full" and relate that particular metaphor to her situation.
 
2013-03-03 07:56:13 PM  
Moktar Belmoktar looked like a Hollywood villain:

static.guim.co.uk
 
2013-03-03 08:08:42 PM  
Subby, when the headline greened
 
2013-03-03 09:36:04 PM  
I can't fap to this. His hands open.
 
2013-03-03 10:47:08 PM  

hardinparamedic: What the hell?

Is this a headline about world events, or viral marketing for the Hobbit?


OK, let me see your Nerd'n'chip card, you lose a corner.
 
2013-03-03 11:05:23 PM  

Nothing To See Here: and watch Tech TV.


How do you watch a channel that hasn't existed in almost a decade?
 
2013-03-03 11:14:29 PM  

weltallica: [i.imgur.com image 300x229]

1991 was over twenty years ago.

Most Farkers weren't even born when we were watching this.


Yeah, I had that realization Friday night, and it still blows my mind that there's kids old enough to drink now that  didn't exist at the same time as Nirvana. MIND BLOWN.
 
2013-03-04 02:45:34 AM  
"Lootie, his tub full"

I think you just proved the point.
 
2013-03-04 08:55:04 AM  

Baloo Uriza: hardinparamedic: What the hell?

Is this a headline about world events, or viral marketing for the Hobbit?

OK, let me see your Nerd'n'chip card, you lose a corner.


And you get a box of Trails End.
 
2013-03-04 08:59:19 AM  

Flab: zamboni: Silverstaff: wickedg: Will someone please post the explanation for people who don't get TNG references.

\too lazy

Short version: They met an alien race that talked only in memes and cliches.  They would parrot phrases referencing legends and history of their people, and that's it.  "Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra" was one of their more common phrases.

Imagine if Fark was nothing but image memes, inside jokes, movie and TV show references, and cliched callbacks to older threads. . .you don't have to imagine very hard.  Yeah, now imagine if an entire civilization communicated like that.

/Romero, explaining blogs. . .

Kinda... sorta... we are a civilization that talks like that. Granted, the civilization on TNG seemed to have lost the ability, even the concept of speaking literally.

But just think about how many times you reference something that you, your circle of friends, or even those with whom you share a language understand, but might be completely lost on someone from another background. A movie you've all seen. An event you all know about. A piece of literature that was widely read or taught in your language. Every time you use a name, or a term, or a phrase that represents more than the sum of its words, you are doing what that species was doing.

If a civilization had enough common experiences it could be an efficient way to communicate. Sort of a language compression. But meet up with another civilization... and you end up battling to the death with invisible creatures like Picard and Dathon at El-Adrel on TNG. And you won't get over it... like Ted at Macho Grande.

/I liked that episode. More after I watched it a few times.

Major plot hole: How would a 2 year old Tamarian learn to speak?


> Major plot hole: How would a 2 year old Tamarian learn to speak?

Tarmok, going to his Goddamn room.
 
2013-03-04 09:34:20 AM  

TheotherMIguy: Baloo Uriza: hardinparamedic: What the hell?

Is this a headline about world events, or viral marketing for the Hobbit?

OK, let me see your Nerd'n'chip card, you lose a corner.

And you get a box of Trails End.


OK, Trail's End.  That was the reference  I had to look up, and I even worked on payroll for the Scouts for several years (natural Christmas wreathes and cedar garland, Christmas trees and recycling all of the above is wrapped up so tight with local Scout troops around Portland it's damn near a mob racket).
 
2013-03-04 09:44:27 AM  

Baloo Uriza: weltallica: [i.imgur.com image 300x229]

1991 was over twenty years ago.

Most Farkers weren't even born when we were watching this.

Yeah, I had that realization Friday night, and it still blows my mind that there's kids old enough to drink now that  didn't exist at the same time as Nirvana. MIND BLOWN.


Kurt Cobain's too.
 
2013-03-04 10:01:07 AM  

Flab: Baloo Uriza: weltallica: [i.imgur.com image 300x229]

1991 was over twenty years ago.

Most Farkers weren't even born when we were watching this.

Yeah, I had that realization Friday night, and it still blows my mind that there's kids old enough to drink now that  didn't exist at the same time as Nirvana. MIND BLOWN.

Kurt Cobain's too.


i.imgur.com
 
2013-03-04 01:51:44 PM  
Like Icy Hot Stuntaz from Toccoa On GeoCities
 
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