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2013-03-03 05:29:01 AM
Disappointing.. thought at first she got applause because the judge deserved it or something.
 
2013-03-03 08:45:16 AM
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2013-03-03 09:53:49 AM
Crunchy latin hair = prim?
 
2013-03-03 09:54:12 AM
So, another successful beatdown into submission and repression. (sigh). Like "breaking" a horse.
 
2013-03-03 09:56:12 AM
Hopefully this includes a term of probation long enough to determine if it's false sincerity to get out of charges or if she realizes she needs to change her life around.
 
2013-03-03 09:56:16 AM
So, the moral of the story is that if you PRETEND to suck up to people in authority, you will be applauded by those same people....
 
2013-03-03 09:56:36 AM

The judge seemed thoroughly impressed with her transformation after learning that Soto had passed all of her drug tests and is regularly attending narcotics anonymous meetings.


I'm sure she's a COMPLETELY different person now. *eyeroll*

And the judge set the bar pretty damn low for being "thoroughly impressed".
 
2013-03-03 09:57:53 AM
I kinda like this girl she seems like she'd be fun.  I do want to get her sobered up before we have to talk to authority figures though.
 
2013-03-03 10:04:23 AM
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2013-03-03 10:06:34 AM

Englebert Slaptyback: The judge seemed thoroughly impressed with her transformation after learning that Soto had passed all of her drug tests and is regularly attending narcotics anonymous meetings.


I'm sure she's a COMPLETELY different person now. *eyeroll*

And the judge set the bar pretty damn low for being "thoroughly impressed".


Eh.. She's a kid. We were all assholes at that age.. Not necessarily to a judges face but most of us figured out ways to do illegal activity and not get caught.  Some.. Not so much
 
2013-03-03 10:06:42 AM

dobro: So, another successful beatdown into submission and repression. (sigh). Like "breaking" a horse.


More like another druggie learning how to play the system. I suspect we'll hear from her again.

/I'd like to be proven wrong though
 
2013-03-03 10:09:44 AM
I don't know the extent of her presumed drug problem (Xanax??), but nobody with a serious addiction is completely cured in one month.  The applause was not for some miracle recovery.  The applause was because her spirit was visibly and superficially broken by an authoritarian court system that set her bond at an amount beyond her means, due to her lack of taking the first judge "seriously" enough.
 
2013-03-03 10:10:05 AM

bighairyguy: dobro: So, another successful beatdown into submission and repression. (sigh). Like "breaking" a horse.

More like another druggie learning how to play the system. I suspect we'll hear from her again.

/I'd like to be proven wrong though


Could be worse, could be like the white collars who abuse the system and get no punishment

/steal millions/billions, caught written hookers and blow, get not even a also on the wrist
//be average Joe with not even enough pot for the night, life behind bars
 
2013-03-03 10:10:12 AM
I'd hit it.
 
2013-03-03 10:13:34 AM
So you get applause because you are respectful in court after farking it up the first time? The applause should be saved for when she really turns herself around.
 
2013-03-03 10:13:55 AM

styckx: Eh.. She's a kid. We were all assholes at that age..


A kid? She's 18 years old and supposedly an adult.
 
2013-03-03 10:16:26 AM

No Time To Explain: bighairyguy: dobro: So, another successful beatdown into submission and repression. (sigh). Like "breaking" a horse.

More like another druggie learning how to play the system. I suspect we'll hear from her again.

/I'd like to be proven wrong though

Could be worse, could be like the white collars who abuse the system and get no punishment

/steal millions/billions, caught written hookers and blow, get not even a also on the wrist
//be average Joe with not even enough pot for the night, life behind bars


I think we found the person who took all of her leftover drugs...AT ONCE.
 
2013-03-03 10:23:03 AM
She learned that cynicism is the key to avoid punishment, and that the US judicial system is a sham that values cheap cynical displays of atonement instead of actually upholding justice and rehabilitating criminals.
 
2013-03-03 10:26:09 AM

dobro: So, another successful beatdown into submission and repression. (sigh). Like "breaking" a horse.


/Yes, and excellent. She's not going to get far in life using/dealing drugs with a giant chip on her shoulder. It's not like we should support someone cleaning up their act and not acting like a filthy trash talking gutter rat.
 
2013-03-03 10:30:00 AM

Veramar: styckx: Eh.. She's a kid. We were all assholes at that age..

A kid? She's 18 years old and supposedly an adult.


I was pretty lame, I wasn't a druggie when I was 18.
 
2013-03-03 10:31:24 AM

skinink: So you get applause because you are respectful in court after farking it up the first time? The applause should be saved for when she really turns herself around.



I think most of us know she hasn't turned her life around yet. I think most of us also know that there is a high likelihood she'll be back.

On the other side of it, good on her that she did apologize, took ownership of the actions and is working to get off the drugs. Did she do those things because she just wanted to get out of jail? Probably. That said, your complaint is really that she had applause because of her change in attitude?

Two questions:

1) At what point do we determine that she's turned her life around? Drug addiction is not something you can cure. She could be a successful professional with a stable marriage and two kids 20 years from now and back in prison 21 years from now.

2) Cheers, encouragement or compliments shouldn't be allowed through the process of change? Is there really any harm in cheering for someone for making a positive STEP in their lives? I think the sad thing is how many people who do actively try to change do not get the encouragement or positive reinforcement they need to stick with it. I know the applause isn't going to keep her off the drugs, but I don't see how it hurts either.

/good for her
//long recovery kid, don't think it's over, don't EVER think it's over
 
2013-03-03 10:31:27 AM
Why does the headline say "Florida girl" when we're talking about an adult female?  Would an eighteen year old male be referred to as a Florida boy?
 
2013-03-03 10:32:05 AM

Bit'O'Gristle: dobro: So, another successful beatdown into submission and repression. (sigh). Like "breaking" a horse.

/Yes, and excellent. She's not going to get far in life using/dealing drugs with a giant chip on her shoulder. It's not like we should support someone cleaning up their act and not acting like a filthy trash talking gutter rat.


Well, that's your opinion.  Real world experience shows that there are shiatloads of successful people in this world who abuse drugs and alcohol, and have ENORMOUS chips on their shoulders.  In fact, I'd say it almost seems like a requirement for many.
 
2013-03-03 10:35:23 AM

SpdrJay: So, the moral of the story is that if you PRETEND to suck up to people in authority, you will be applauded by those same people....


calitreview.com

/Dafuq did I just read?
 
2013-03-03 10:37:47 AM

lordjupiter: Bit'O'Gristle: dobro: So, another successful beatdown into submission and repression. (sigh). Like "breaking" a horse.

/Yes, and excellent. She's not going to get far in life using/dealing drugs with a giant chip on her shoulder. It's not like we should support someone cleaning up their act and not acting like a filthy trash talking gutter rat.

Well, that's your opinion.  Real world experience shows that there are shiatloads of successful people in this world who abuse drugs and alcohol, and have ENORMOUS chips on their shoulders.  In fact, I'd say it almost seems like a requirement for many.


/Good point, but you must admit that for MOST of us who don't have millions of dollars, general civility and politeness have to be the norm unless you want to lose your job, and have constant strife with people due to your lack of general manners.
 
2013-03-03 10:38:02 AM
So basically the judge had her bathed and brought to his chambers
 
2013-03-03 10:38:20 AM

maggoo: She learned that cynicism is the key to avoid punishment, and that the US judicial system is a sham that values cheap cynical displays of atonement instead of actually upholding justice and rehabilitating criminals.


Impressive, actually, considering the mental capacity of your average teenager in the US and the fact that she's only had 5 days to learn.
 
2013-03-03 10:41:08 AM
Xanax is evil.

Ban it!
 
2013-03-03 10:42:59 AM

maggoo: She learned that cynicism is the key to avoid punishment, and that the US judicial system is a sham that values cheap cynical displays of atonement instead of actually upholding justice and rehabilitating criminals.


^^This^^

One of the hardest things I ever did was to hold my face still whilst standing in front of a judge who was sporting a glass eye..
 
2013-03-03 10:45:40 AM

SpdrJay: So, the moral of the story is that if you PRETEND to suck up to people in authority, you will be applauded by those same people....



Psst...people in authority don't care if you're pretending or sincere as long as they go home without a headache.
 
2013-03-03 10:48:26 AM
fark the judge and fark stupid contempt of court sentences.
 
2013-03-03 10:50:00 AM

Bit'O'Gristle: lordjupiter: Bit'O'Gristle: dobro: So, another successful beatdown into submission and repression. (sigh). Like "breaking" a horse.

/Yes, and excellent. She's not going to get far in life using/dealing drugs with a giant chip on her shoulder. It's not like we should support someone cleaning up their act and not acting like a filthy trash talking gutter rat.

Well, that's your opinion.  Real world experience shows that there are shiatloads of successful people in this world who abuse drugs and alcohol, and have ENORMOUS chips on their shoulders.  In fact, I'd say it almost seems like a requirement for many.

/Good point, but you must admit that for MOST of us who don't have millions of dollars, general civility and politeness have to be the norm unless you want to lose your job, and have constant strife with people due to your lack of general manners.



How do you know she didn't have those qualities in a work environment, as opposed to a court setting where her bond was being set beyond her means?  Or that playing the game in court has anything to do with cultivating those qualities?  How many totally mature 18 year olds are there, even ones who are "clean"?

A bit of an asshole streak is often a requirement for the pioneers and trendsetters in the world.  Running afoul of some people and finding your true calling may involve pissing some people off, and refusing to be tamed.  Otherwise, we'd all be enslaved by anyone who demanded we subjugate ourselves in the name of "manners".

This story is 99.9% about bowing down to judges, not just preparing one to either succeed or fail in life.  Whether or not it's a possible inconvenience to display such anti-authoritarianism to a judge is a separate question.
 
2013-03-03 10:54:41 AM

Abox: SpdrJay: So, the moral of the story is that if you PRETEND to suck up to people in authority, you will be applauded by those same people....


Psst...people in authority don't care if you're pretending or sincere as long as they go home without a headache.


Addendum: ...as long as they go home without a headache and with the firm conviction that everyone around them is inferior.
 
2013-03-03 10:58:44 AM
...waiting to see her first Brazzers or Bangbros video.

I'll use it a lot.
 
2013-03-03 10:58:49 AM
Everyone makes mistakes, but even at 18 I were brought before the judge I would have been pretty freaked out and been all yes sir and no sirs.

As for the excuse that she was drunk and pilled up in court, I doubt it.  I doubt she was arrested and right away brought before the judge.  She had at least a night in jail to sleep it off.  Unless she had an alcohol soaked tampon stuffed in the darkest nethers of her anus and along with some slow melting xanax next to it.

Also it is typical of the latino/catholic culture to repent today and be forgiven, and continue to keep farking up manana.

Call me when she is graduating from college, or when she stops peddling her ass on Collins Ave.
 
2013-03-03 11:02:39 AM

No Time To Explain: teal millions/billions, caught written hookers and blow, get not even a also on the wrist


You high? You flipping me off with that non-sense you speak? No soup for you !!!
 
2013-03-03 11:04:27 AM
Let's see...drinks to excess, games the court system, barely masks contempt for authority due only to desire for material gain....


Ladies and gentlemen, I present a Future Lawyer of America.
 
2013-03-03 11:05:35 AM

sendbillmoney: Why does the headline say "Florida girl" when we're talking about an adult female?  Would an eighteen year old male be referred to as a Florida boy?


if he's black and in the south --with a white judge. But your just trolling right?
 
2013-03-03 11:13:19 AM

sendbillmoney: Why does the headline say "Florida girl" when we're talking about an adult female?  Would an eighteen year old male be referred to as a Florida boy?


Yes. They are still kids at least to the age of 25.

Oh, and...She was a c*nt then and she's a c*nt now.
 
2013-03-03 11:17:43 AM
All she learned was how to game the system. And who taught her that? The system.
 
2013-03-03 11:19:16 AM
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2013-03-03 11:23:42 AM
The judge was a cock.  The only thing he offers the world is his authority.
 
2013-03-03 11:25:37 AM
Subby is sadly correct.

Where will this thing land?
The learning channel?
Biography?
Arts and Entertainment channel?

Maybe we can sandwich her in between " Sign twirlers of Alabama" and "Detroit midget plumbers"
 
2013-03-03 11:29:16 AM
I got smack downs at work two years in a row for arguing a bit too strenuously for testability, maintainability and documentation (in our SW development). Then I spent a year nodding my head in agreement and acting surprised whenever things went wrong (as predicted by my earlier, disagreeable self). Result: I'm a good team player and our product is a POS.
 
2013-03-03 11:47:00 AM

Benevolent Misanthrope: Abox: SpdrJay: So, the moral of the story is that if you PRETEND to suck up to people in authority, you will be applauded by those same people....


Psst...people in authority don't care if you're pretending or sincere as long as they go home without a headache.

Addendum: ...as long as they go home without a headache and with the firm conviction that everyone around them is inferior.



Are we talking about authority or hipsters?  I'm pretty sure feeling superior transcends every societal strata. As does wanting to go home without a headache.
 
2013-03-03 11:49:40 AM

skinink: So you get applause because you are respectful in court after farking it up the first time? The applause should be saved for when she really turns herself around.


I'll wait for her first action/adventure movie makes $30 million opening weekend.
 
2013-03-03 11:53:18 AM
30 days of sobriety in a monitored and controlled environment?  (rolls eyes)  Big accomplishment.

Let's see how she does after 30 unmonitored days in an uncontrolled environment.

I've seen people doing 90-day rehabs who would talk about how they couldn't wait for their time to be up so they could go use again without having to act remorseful and rehabilitated for a councilor.

As an added bonus, once she realizes the viral nature of her video, she'll ride that horse till its knees give out.
 
2013-03-03 11:56:10 AM

Abox: Benevolent Misanthrope: Abox: SpdrJay: So, the moral of the story is that if you PRETEND to suck up to people in authority, you will be applauded by those same people....


Psst...people in authority don't care if you're pretending or sincere as long as they go home without a headache.

Addendum: ...as long as they go home without a headache and with the firm conviction that everyone around them is inferior.


Are we talking about authority or hipsters?  I'm pretty sure feeling superior transcends every societal strata. As does wanting to go home without a headache.


Yes - but when dealing with people in authority, one should always remember that these traits are foremost.  They are not there for the public good, or to do the right thing, no matter what they said during their campaign or what their official bio says.  They are there to feel powerful, and they'll royally fark anyone who doesn't kiss their ass sufficiently.  Remember this, and act accordingly.
 
2013-03-03 11:56:31 AM

Vance Uppercut: The judge was a cock.  The only thing he offers the world is his authority.


which is more than what you apparently have
 
2013-03-03 12:04:53 PM

litespeed74: Subby is sadly correct.

Where will this thing land?
The learning channel?
Biography?
Arts and Entertainment channel?

Maybe we can sandwich her in between " Sign twirlers of Alabama" and "Detroit midget plumbers"


Are you a showrunner?
 
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