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2013-03-02 03:08:30 PM
How can you learn to resist temptation if you don't know what it tastes like?
 
2013-03-02 03:38:39 PM
and nothing seems to stop them
 
2013-03-02 03:45:03 PM
It's weird to me that people think of food as sinful.

'Unhealthy', or 'not the best nutrition choice', OK.

But why "sin"?
 
2013-03-02 03:46:39 PM

Mentat: How can you learn to resist temptation if you don't know what it tastes like?


Signed,

The many Popes in history that operated on this principle
 
2013-03-02 03:47:33 PM
Install some sin taxes on it, just like smoking and drinking.  The Fattie tax.
 
2013-03-02 03:52:16 PM
Take those and add 'potassium' to the mix (kidney problem)

There's not much food left
 
2013-03-02 04:04:49 PM
It doesn't help that these things are in fraking EVERYTHING.  I struggle with eating healthy, but home cooking isn't always available and there isn't enough healthy options in most of the fast food joints.  I remember back when we were hitting the gym on a regular basis and our go-to restaurant always seemed to be Qdoba, next to the unhealthy KFC, Burger King, White Castle, and McDonalds.

Also, if you really want to tackle our sugar problem, get rid of the corn subsidies.  HFCS is literally killing our population.

Oh, and can we please quit putting Aspartame in every single diet drink?  It's like they are trying to make diet drinks taste bad, just so that you can go in the exact opposite direction with HFCS.  Splenda has been around for well over a decade and tastes a 1000x better than that Aspartame after-taste crap.
 
2013-03-02 04:09:29 PM

jaytkay: It's weird to me that people think of food as sinful.

'Unhealthy', or 'not the best nutrition choice', OK.

But why "sin"?


The new liberal mindset that bans salt and large sodas considered this sin. Adultery no. A large coke yes.
 
2013-03-02 04:10:55 PM
I'd rather laugh with the sinners than cry with the saints.
 
2013-03-02 04:11:17 PM
Sometimes, I think scientists and the media love to go around

1. determining what is fun or tasty or just makes people feel good

2. Make claims that it's bad and everyone should stop it immediately.

whatscookingamerica.net
 
2013-03-02 04:15:59 PM
Hmmm, article about sugar, salt, fat in processed food...

"The average American eats 33 pounds of cheese and 70 pounds of sugar a year "

One of these things is not like the other. Cheese is a good thing, and normally joins the party to make things better without adding loads of calories. Good cheese, at least.

/There's no bread or mayo in my kitchen
//And it'll stay that way.
 
2013-03-02 04:17:30 PM

Nemo's Brother: The new liberal mindset that bans salt and large sodas considered this sin. Adultery no. A large coke yes.


Nobody frames the public policy as a question of "sin". Whether you agree or not, it's a health issue.

My question is why people think of it as "sin".

I could lose a few pounds. If I exercised more, I would lose a few pounds, I know this.

But I don't consider myself a sinner for typing on Fark instead of running around the block.
 
2013-03-02 04:37:16 PM
I don't believe in sin.  After reading at article, I still don't believe in sin.
 
2013-03-02 04:43:08 PM

jaytkay: But I don't consider myself a sinner for typing on Fark instead of running around the block.


Well I run to the rock, please hide me
I run to the Rock, please hide me
I run to the Rock, please hide me,
Lord All along dem day

But the rock cried out, I can't hide you
The Rock cried out, I can't hide you
The Rock cried out, I ain't gonna hide you guy
All along dem day
 
2013-03-02 04:45:23 PM
So if I decide NASCAR is a sin, does that mean everyone that goes to a race should feel guilty about it from now on?
 
2013-03-02 04:48:25 PM
Maybe we just prefer to be hedonists and spend few years enjoying all the joy life has to offer rather than abstaining from everything fun in order to try to steal a few extra years of being old and infirm? I'd rather have 70 really fun years than 100 years full of denying myself joy.
 
2013-03-02 04:49:40 PM
I can resist everything but temptation.
 
2013-03-02 05:00:13 PM

jaytkay: It's weird to me that people think of food as sinful.

'Unhealthy', or 'not the best nutrition choice', OK.

But why "sin"?




It's satanic.

You are not worshipping The Lord right now, sinner.
 
2013-03-02 05:13:38 PM
I keep getting my patience tried by this guy I went to college with who keeps saying being gay is a choice. Said person is also so far into the closet they visit Narnia at will. Keeps saying it isn't "Biblical" to be born that way, because "God doesn't make mistakes." What the hell is wrong with people? If you believe God doesn't make mistakes then being gay isn't a mistake. Buddy's gonna keep on until he gets verbally atomized. I can only state nicely so many times that "My uncle didn't choose it. The one that died. The one that was gay" so many times.

So, I say to all of your snarky Farkers, what is the best way for me to turn his own logic against him?
 
2013-03-02 05:15:49 PM
Funny how those same moralizing, judgmental Christians conveniently forget about "sloth" so much of the time..
 
2013-03-02 05:26:42 PM
When "sin" is defined objectively and without emotion, we can recognize it as a real thing.  Until then, it's just a mask for judgemental bull shiat.
 
2013-03-02 05:27:57 PM
LOL, reality is that sugar, salt and fat are the most valuable substances on earth and without them we would die right quick.  An obsession with an aesthetic preference that evolved back when our biggest worry was that our mates and neighbors would eat all the rations over the winter and leave us to starve is blinding us to the truth.
 
2013-03-02 05:31:39 PM

ParagonComplex: So, I say to all of your snarky Farkers, what is the best way for me to turn his own logic against him?


Logic is not involved in his position, so you can't turn it against him.
 
2013-03-02 05:31:49 PM

ParagonComplex: I keep getting my patience tried by this guy I went to college with who keeps saying being gay is a choice. Said person is also so far into the closet they visit Narnia at will. Keeps saying it isn't "Biblical" to be born that way, because "God doesn't make mistakes." What the hell is wrong with people? If you believe God doesn't make mistakes then being gay isn't a mistake. Buddy's gonna keep on until he gets verbally atomized. I can only state nicely so many times that "My uncle didn't choose it. The one that died. The one that was gay" so many times.

So, I say to all of your snarky Farkers, what is the best way for me to turn his own logic against him?




Masturbation is a choice?
 
2013-03-02 05:33:49 PM

LewDux: and nothing seems to stop them


Get out of my mind!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ImRyPymRAM
 
2013-03-02 05:44:29 PM

ParagonComplex: So, I say to all of your snarky Farkers, what is the best way for me to turn his own logic against him?


ParagonComplex: If you believe God doesn't make mistakes then being gay isn't a mistake.


You have the best answer I know.
 
2013-03-02 05:46:33 PM

ParagonComplex: I keep getting my patience tried by this guy I went to college with who keeps saying being gay is a choice. Said person is also so far into the closet they visit Narnia at will. Keeps saying it isn't "Biblical" to be born that way, because "God doesn't make mistakes." What the hell is wrong with people? If you believe God doesn't make mistakes then being gay isn't a mistake. Buddy's gonna keep on until he gets verbally atomized. I can only state nicely so many times that "My uncle didn't choose it. The one that died. The one that was gay" so many times.

So, I say to all of your snarky Farkers, what is the best way for me to turn his own logic against him?


Tell him to watch Fish out of Water.
 
2013-03-02 06:08:28 PM

ParagonComplex: I keep getting my patience tried by this guy I went to college with who keeps saying being gay is a choice. Said person is also so far into the closet they visit Narnia at will. Keeps saying it isn't "Biblical" to be born that way, because "God doesn't make mistakes." What the hell is wrong with people? If you believe God doesn't make mistakes then being gay isn't a mistake. Buddy's gonna keep on until he gets verbally atomized. I can only state nicely so many times that "My uncle didn't choose it. The one that died. The one that was gay" so many times.

So, I say to all of your snarky Farkers, what is the best way for me to turn his own logic against him?


If God doesn't make mistakes, how do you explain Pope Benedict XVI?
 
2013-03-02 06:11:25 PM

Mad_Radhu: ParagonComplex: I keep getting my patience tried by this guy I went to college with who keeps saying being gay is a choice. Said person is also so far into the closet they visit Narnia at will. Keeps saying it isn't "Biblical" to be born that way, because "God doesn't make mistakes." What the hell is wrong with people? If you believe God doesn't make mistakes then being gay isn't a mistake. Buddy's gonna keep on until he gets verbally atomized. I can only state nicely so many times that "My uncle didn't choose it. The one that died. The one that was gay" so many times.

So, I say to all of your snarky Farkers, what is the best way for me to turn his own logic against him?

If God doesn't make mistakes, how do you explain Pope Benedict XVI?


"It was part of god's plan", 66% of the time it works every time.

/The great thing about science is you don't have to believe in it for it to be true
 
2013-03-02 07:43:37 PM
When it came to fat, it was the amazing role of what the industry calls the "mouth feel." That's the warm, gooey taste of cheese, or the bite into a crisp fried chicken that you get. It rushes right to the same pleasure centers of the brain that sugar does, but fat is carrying twice as many calories, so it is more problematic from an obesity standpoint.

Except that natural occurring fat actually fills you up. Eating a pound of sugar is easier than eating a pound of fat.

I know for a fact that if you give me a half a kilo of honey and a load of biscuits they will combine and everything will be consumed in an evening. Give me 200 grams of butter (the actual butter with at least 80% butterfat) and I'll start feeling full before I get through it.

/Assuming I could stomach eating sticks of pure butter
 
2013-03-02 08:38:24 PM

jaytkay: It's weird to me that people think of food as sinful.
'Unhealthy', or 'not the best nutrition choice', OK.
But why "sin"?


Epicurus, the ancient Greek, was an Atomist. He believed that everything was made of atoms, and returned to atoms upon death. There was no immortal soul. Therefore, man's greatest pursuit should be pleasure. Now here comes the early church. Boom! Pleasure is a denial of God.
 
2013-03-02 10:15:05 PM
STFU Sifferlin.
 
2013-03-03 01:19:23 AM
I'm overdosing on sin till the day I die
 
2013-03-03 02:14:44 AM

wildcardjack: Hmmm, article about sugar, salt, fat in processed food...

"The average American eats 33 pounds of cheese and 70 pounds of sugar a year "

One of these things is not like the other. Cheese is a good thing, and normally joins the party to make things better without adding loads of calories. Good cheese, at least.

/There's no bread or mayo in my kitchen
//And it'll stay that way.


Cheese is just milk fat. Partially pre digested by bacteria.
So cheese = fat.
 
2013-03-03 08:30:45 AM
I have one life.
It tastes good.
I'm not hurting anyone else, I'm not committing suicide, I'm productive.
I wank too, BTW


/Go take a shiat and smell it.
 
2013-03-03 09:51:51 AM

jaytkay: It's weird to me that people think of food as sinful.

'Unhealthy', or 'not the best nutrition choice', OK.

But why "sin"?


Because it's the closest a lot of fatties are going to get to other peoples' genitals.
 
2013-03-03 09:54:58 AM

IoSaturnalia: jaytkay: But I don't consider myself a sinner for typing on Fark instead of running around the block.

Well I run to the rock, please hide me
I run to the Rock, please hide me
I run to the Rock, please hide me,
Lord All along dem day

But the rock cried out, I can't hide you
The Rock cried out, I can't hide you
The Rock cried out, I ain't gonna hide you guy
All along dem day


Rock of Ages, cleft for me
Let me hide myself in Thee

[voice of Eric Cartman]: Unngh ungh, grunt pant......god DAMMIT!!
 
2013-03-03 10:59:41 AM

jaytkay: It's weird to me that people think of food as sinful.

'Unhealthy', or 'not the best nutrition choice', OK.

But why "sin"?


gluttony
 
2013-03-03 11:04:09 AM

ParagonComplex: I keep getting my patience tried by this guy I went to college with who keeps saying being gay is a choice. Said person is also so far into the closet they visit Narnia at will. Keeps saying it isn't "Biblical" to be born that way, because "God doesn't make mistakes." What the hell is wrong with people? If you believe God doesn't make mistakes then being gay isn't a mistake. Buddy's gonna keep on until he gets verbally atomized. I can only state nicely so many times that "My uncle didn't choose it. The one that died. The one that was gay" so many times.

So, I say to all of your snarky Farkers, what is the best way for me to turn his own logic against him?


God made gay people (god made everything) so if you don`t like that then you don`t like god (can be used with anything, even sin, god made the devil and sin so they are all in gods plan, you DO believe that god has a plan for us all don`t you? and god works in mysterious ways that we can`t understand) so if you don`t think god made gays and has a plan for them then that is right even if you don`t understand or think it`s wrong.
 
2013-03-03 12:25:19 PM
blue_2501:Oh, and can we please quit putting Aspartame in every single diet drink?  It's like they are trying to make diet drinks taste bad, just so that you can go in the exact opposite direction with HFCS.  Splenda has been around for well over a decade and tastes a 1000x better than that Aspartame after-taste crap.
100% this.  Plus, less aspartame headaches and strokes.
 
2013-03-03 04:02:11 PM

dready zim: God made gay people (god made everything) so if you don`t like that then you don`t like god (can be used with anything, even sin, god made the devil and sin so they are all in gods plan, you DO believe that god has a plan for us all don`t you? and god works in mysterious ways that we can`t understand) so if you don`t think god made gays and has a plan for them then that is right even if you don`t understand or think it`s wrong.


Yeah, but his whole argument is that homosexuality is caused by a person choosing to sin. He tries to 'figure out' why people are gay. Says that when people think about gay stuff enough it causes a chemical change in their brains. Either that or something bad happens to them to make them that way. The crazy thing is that some of that is possibly true (about something bad happening to them to warp them), but overall it's "they choose to sin". It's really quite frustrating. I think that, as I stated earlier, he is so far in the closet that he visits Narnia at will, and he desperately tries to rationalize why he is how he is. Maybe he really did "choose" to be gay in his own mind, but he was still born that way. If a person chooses it's a sign of mental illness. Some people are born without any real sexual attraction so I can sort of see his point of view. Thing is, a 31 year old guy that still lives with his parents and doesn't have a girlfriend because he "is really picky" isn't fooling anyone but themselves.
 
2013-03-03 04:21:54 PM

ParagonComplex: dready zim: God made gay people (god made everything) so if you don`t like that then you don`t like god (can be used with anything, even sin, god made the devil and sin so they are all in gods plan, you DO believe that god has a plan for us all don`t you? and god works in mysterious ways that we can`t understand) so if you don`t think god made gays and has a plan for them then that is right even if you don`t understand or think it`s wrong.

Yeah, but his whole argument is that homosexuality is caused by a person choosing to sin. He tries to 'figure out' why people are gay. Says that when people think about gay stuff enough it causes a chemical change in their brains. Either that or something bad happens to them to make them that way. The crazy thing is that some of that is possibly true (about something bad happening to them to warp them), but overall it's "they choose to sin". It's really quite frustrating. I think that, as I stated earlier, he is so far in the closet that he visits Narnia at will, and he desperately tries to rationalize why he is how he is. Maybe he really did "choose" to be gay in his own mind, but he was still born that way. If a person chooses it's a sign of mental illness. Some people are born without any real sexual attraction so I can sort of see his point of view. Thing is, a 31 year old guy that still lives with his parents and doesn't have a girlfriend because he "is really picky" isn't fooling anyone but themselves.


Hrmm, I usually go with "If you think it's a choice, that means you think that tomorrow you wake up and decide to go get some dick, and give up that whole attraction to women."  Usually their homophobia won't let them respond to that one.
 
2013-03-03 07:55:09 PM

Mrtraveler01: I'd rather laugh with the sinners than cry with the saints.


The sinners are much more fun...
 
2013-03-04 09:11:13 AM

ParagonComplex: I keep getting my patience tried by this guy I went to college with who keeps saying being gay is a choice. Said person is also so far into the closet they visit Narnia at will. Keeps saying it isn't "Biblical" to be born that way, because "God doesn't make mistakes." What the hell is wrong with people? If you believe God doesn't make mistakes then being gay isn't a mistake. Buddy's gonna keep on until he gets verbally atomized. I can only state nicely so many times that "My uncle didn't choose it. The one that died. The one that was gay" so many times.

So, I say to all of your snarky Farkers, what is the best way for me to turn his own logic against him?


Paraphrasing Neil DeGrasse Tyson here, but God apparently designed us to eat and breath through the same tube, guaranteeing that a percentage of the population will die an otherwise needless death that God could have prevented with a little more care. So, that seems a bit imperfect. In particular after making dolphins! It would also help to know if sea creatures were made first as then you could argue he even had a working prototype if dolphins came first. (I don't know and am not going to look it up). And also note that no amount of good works or praying or whatever his particular branch of mental instability Christianity pushes will avoid that.

Then keep mentioning how sinful things he probably does are, like lusting after people, wanking, pride, etc, and enjoy watching his long slide into self-hatred.
 
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