DrZiffle: leevis: DrZiffle: leevis: DrZiffle: Conservatives undermine public education for decades, and then they're shocked, SHOCKED that public education is broken.I live with my momIt's politicians from both sides that have screwed the system up. Some of them have been more concerned about slashing the budget, some of them have more concerned about turning it into a political indoctrination center.Not a troll. Conservatives consistently support vouchers for private schools and attempt to break teachers unions. Keep you false equivalences to yourself.Teachers unions aren't about improving education anymore, if they ever were. They exist to block merit-based promotions and fight for benefits packages that help bankrupt cities and states. Vouchers for private schools don't affect Johnny's ability to learn math from an incompetent teacher in a public schooHow about paying a decent wage? And don't give me that "teachers get the summer off bullshiat." Pay a living wage and Johnny's teacher might do better.Classrooms are overcrowded, and teachers are overworked because of the right's litany of "no taxes no taxes!"Conservative republicans promote creationism and climate-change denial. No child left behind undermines teaching in favor of testing and outcomes assessments that come out of corporate culture.And "Johnny's incompetent teacher" is a red herring, a hasty generalization, and a half dozen other logical fallacies.
BMFPitt: Fizpez: So (like everyone else) we had our budget slashed every year for the past 5 years. In the past teachers had a "duty" period where you would monitor a lunch or a study hall. We used our math and science teachers to tutor kids who had failed the state graduation (OGT) test - we had (/BoratOn "Great Success" /Boratoff) with the program.When the cuts finally became too deep we did what most schools did - we let a bunch of teachers go, hired untrained "mothers" to babysit the studyhalls and lunch and had the remaining teachers teach an extra period during that time. In and of themselves none of these things is a crime against humanity but the results were fairly predictable:The lunches and study halls are bigger discipline problems as the students figured out the babysitters had no real power.The kids that failed the OGT arent getting any additional help.The remaining staff is more worn out and less connected since you basically never leave your room during the day.And even if you ignore all of those other points, by this studies measure our school is now "worse" because we have more "non teachers" than we had before - and all because of the cuts made by the very same people who LOVE studies like this.If firing competent teachers and hiring babysitters was your solution to budget cuts that may or may not have actually happened, then you're a poster child for why they are right.
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