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(CNN)   Hugo Chavez and his cancer are about to go to join the likes of Lenin, Stalin, Tito, Ceausescu, and Milosevic   (cnn.com) divider line 88
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2013-03-02 10:10:14 AM
That link has me convinced.
 
2013-03-02 11:27:53 AM
That poor cancer has been infected with Hugo Chavez long enough. I hope its suffering ends soon.
 
2013-03-02 02:32:00 PM
Serious question about all this, I've been wondering since the news of his cancer broke.

Why is he going to Cuba for treatment?  I would be shocked that Cuba has better cancer doctors- or any medical stuff- than Venezuela.  I'd assume Venezuela isn't the best in the world, but are they really worse than Cuba?
 
2013-03-02 03:46:53 PM
He's going to join the faces on jokey hipster t-shirts?
 
2013-03-02 03:48:57 PM
Maybe he should come to America for treatment.
 
2013-03-02 03:49:49 PM

downstairs: Serious question about all this, I've been wondering since the news of his cancer broke.

Why is he going to Cuba for treatment?  I would be shocked that Cuba has better cancer doctors- or any medical stuff- than Venezuela.  I'd assume Venezuela isn't the best in the world, but are they really worse than Cuba?


I think that is the ONLY thing Cuba does right is train doctors. They have a surplus of medical staff that they send around the world.
 
2013-03-02 03:50:05 PM
He's not even close to those other dictators in the headline.
 
2013-03-02 03:50:59 PM
Not stating what kind of cancer he has? Isn't it obvious? He's got Asshole Cancer.
 
2013-03-02 03:52:01 PM
Those guys were all far more valuable to corporate America than Chavez will ever be.
 
2013-03-02 03:53:02 PM
Was dude responsible for the death's of millions? Nah, he's hardly a footnote in the annals of dictatorship, but boy does he really piss American conservatives off.
 
2013-03-02 03:54:00 PM

Nabb1: That poor cancer has been infected with Hugo Chavez long enough. I hope its suffering ends soon.

 
Let's open a dead dictator pool, I'm calling dib's on 4:30 am Sunday morning, as even the sun can't stand to shine on that ass's face one day longer than it has to.
 
2013-03-02 03:56:29 PM

MNguy: He's not even close to those other dictators in the headline.


I'd say he's quite close to Tito, Ceausescu, and Milosevic
 
2013-03-02 03:58:26 PM

downstairs: I'd assume Venezuela isn't the best in the world, but are they really worse than Cuba?


I'm not going to research to see if there are any better metrics, but Cuba's life expectancy is 78.5 (37th), Venezuela's is 73.73 (80th)
 
2013-03-02 03:58:35 PM

Iczer: Not stating what kind of cancer he has? Isn't it obvious? He's got Asshole Cancer.


Just like Farrah Fawcett?
 
2013-03-02 04:00:07 PM

desertfool: downstairs: Serious question about all this, I've been wondering since the news of his cancer broke.

Why is he going to Cuba for treatment?  I would be shocked that Cuba has better cancer doctors- or any medical stuff- than Venezuela.  I'd assume Venezuela isn't the best in the world, but are they really worse than Cuba?

I think that is the ONLY thing Cuba does right is train doctors. They have a surplus of medical staff that they send around the world.


The US is pretty much the only country that has an embargo against Cuba. They are not as back woods as a lot of people think they are.
 
2013-03-02 04:00:12 PM
Fidel Castro, Hugo Chavez, and the Pope were standing at the Pearly Gates...
 
2013-03-02 04:00:39 PM

downstairs: Serious question about all this, I've been wondering since the news of his cancer broke.

Why is he going to Cuba for treatment?  I would be shocked that Cuba has better cancer doctors- or any medical stuff- than Venezuela.  I'd assume Venezuela isn't the best in the world, but are they really worse than Cuba?


Cuba may not have the best doctors in the world, but they have the best in the third world.
 
2013-03-02 04:01:16 PM
i466.photobucket.com
 
2013-03-02 04:03:12 PM

Wittenberg Dropout: Was dude responsible for the death's of millions? Nah, he's hardly a footnote in the annals of dictatorship, but boy does he really piss American conservatives off.


More of an amusement really. Except that whole theft of Exxon assets, I find him to be a clown. I fully expect the Che Brigade to re-write his accomplishments in glowing terms then repeat those lies so often they believe them. It's not like it hasn't happened before.
 
2013-03-02 04:03:35 PM

downstairs: Serious question about all this, I've been wondering since the news of his cancer broke.

Why is he going to Cuba for treatment?  I would be shocked that Cuba has better cancer doctors- or any medical stuff- than Venezuela.  I'd assume Venezuela isn't the best in the world, but are they really worse than Cuba?


Is that a serious question? Cuba is known for the quality of their medical care and amount of trained doctors.

Cuba has a lower infant mortality rate than the U.S. and it has programs in place to train U.S. medical students.

So yes, Cuba has better medical care than Venezuela, and in some respects better care than the United States.
 
2013-03-02 04:05:04 PM

12349876: downstairs: I'd assume Venezuela isn't the best in the world, but are they really worse than Cuba?

I'm not going to research to see if there are any better metrics, but Cuba's life expectancy is 78.5 (37th), Venezuela's is 73.73 (80th)


You should have, because the USA is at 77.97 or 40th (pronounced "first" in American English).
 
2013-03-02 04:05:04 PM
Tito Jackson was a dictator?
 
2013-03-02 04:07:46 PM
Pope Darth Benedict will die before Hugo Chavez does.
 
2013-03-02 04:12:41 PM

Wittenberg Dropout: Was dude responsible for the death's of millions? Nah, he's hardly a footnote in the annals of dictatorship, but boy does he really piss American conservatives off.


What is sad is thathe does not piss off American "progressives".
 
2013-03-02 04:13:48 PM

ausfahrk: Fidel Castro, Hugo Chavez, and the Pope were standing at the Pearly Gates...


....and St. Peter looked up, confused, wondering what any of them were doing there ...
 
2013-03-02 04:17:03 PM
The neoliberal fascists will lose another of their great heroes.
 
2013-03-02 04:18:42 PM
Chavez has the Favre of cancer.
 
2013-03-02 04:19:24 PM
God Bless ya, Hugo!  I'll continue to judge you by your enemies in any event.
 
2013-03-02 04:20:15 PM

hasty ambush: Wittenberg Dropout: Was dude responsible for the death's of millions? Nah, he's hardly a footnote in the annals of dictatorship, but boy does he really piss American conservatives off.

What is sad is thathe does not piss off American "progressives".


perhaps it's that conservatives don't know anything about Citizens Energy Corporation or going over to a neighbors home to split wood for the elderly or disabled.
You know like good Ah-merican oil companies do.

all politics is local- except for some that think bigger
 
2013-03-02 04:28:41 PM
Touch of the Jack Ruby heritage strain lung cancer.

/I'll be in my hat
 
2013-03-02 04:33:52 PM

LewDux: MNguy: He's not even close to those other dictators in the headline.

I'd say he's quite close to Tito, Ceausescu, and Milosevic


How so?  He's not responsible for any mass killing AFAIK
 
2013-03-02 04:35:58 PM

wesmon: downstairs: Serious question about all this, I've been wondering since the news of his cancer broke.

Why is he going to Cuba for treatment?  I would be shocked that Cuba has better cancer doctors- or any medical stuff- than Venezuela.  I'd assume Venezuela isn't the best in the world, but are they really worse than Cuba?

Is that a serious question? Cuba is known for the quality of their medical care and amount of trained doctors.

Cuba has a lower infant mortality rate than the U.S. and it has programs in place to train U.S. medical students.

So yes, Cuba has better medical care than Venezuela, and in some respects better care than the United States.


but, its commie, socialist medicine, and therefor inferior.
 
2013-03-02 04:46:53 PM

stuhayes2010: Tito Jackson was a dictator?


Indeed. Firm, yet fair. Plus he has a decent set of pipes, which is always a plus.
 
2013-03-02 04:47:45 PM

MNguy: LewDux: MNguy: He's not even close to those other dictators in the headline.

I'd say he's quite close to Tito, Ceausescu, and Milosevic

How so?  He's not responsible for any mass killing AFAIK


There's so much derp around Chavez, coming from both left and right, that it's ridiculous.  The right wants to make him into South America's New Hitler, and he's definitely not that.  But there are people on the left who want to praise and canonize him, and he's just done too much troubling stuff to limit freedom of expression and the press to really be a hero either.  His legacy will be very, very complicated.
 
2013-03-02 04:51:07 PM
Remember when under the Bush right wing Hugo Chavez was a thing?  Those guys weren't anything without some world-ending enemy to fight.
 
2013-03-02 04:52:46 PM

MNguy: LewDux: MNguy: He's not even close to those other dictators in the headline.

I'd say he's quite close to Tito, Ceausescu, and Milosevic

How so?  He's not responsible for any mass killing AFAIK


How many Tito killed

Tito, Chavez, Ceaucesku. MIlosevic. Lenin. Hitler. Stalin
/acclaimeddictators.com
 
2013-03-02 04:54:52 PM
The CIA has gotten pretty good at giving the cancer nowadays.
 
2013-03-02 05:00:16 PM

johnnieconnie: ausfahrk: Fidel Castro, Hugo Chavez, and the Pope were standing at the Pearly Gates...

....and St. Peter looked up, confused, wondering what any of them were doing there ...


I'm sorry...too soon?
 
2013-03-02 05:02:56 PM
jake_lex:

There's so much derp around Chavez, coming from both left and right, that it's ridiculous.  The right wants to make him into South America's New Hitler, and he's definitely not that.  But there are people on the left who want to praise and canonize him, and he's just done too much troubling stuff to limit freedom of expression and the press to really be a hero either.  His legacy will be very, very complicated.

I agree.  I was in Venezuela during the last presidential 'election'.  But he hasn't started any wars and he hasn't pursued any genocidal policies.
 
2013-03-02 05:06:41 PM
Subby, why is the elected president of Venezuela in the same category as those mass murderers? Because his country has oil and he won't let Bush's cronies have it?
 
2013-03-02 05:08:14 PM
Chavez was dick, just a dick that got a lot of publicity and power.

Certainly no Stalin.
 
2013-03-02 05:08:59 PM

wesmon: downstairs: Serious question about all this, I've been wondering since the news of his cancer broke.

Why is he going to Cuba for treatment?  I would be shocked that Cuba has better cancer doctors- or any medical stuff- than Venezuela.  I'd assume Venezuela isn't the best in the world, but are they really worse than Cuba?

Is that a serious question? Cuba is known for the quality of their medical care and amount of trained doctors.

Cuba has a lower infant mortality rate than the U.S. and it has programs in place to train U.S. medical students.

So yes, Cuba has better medical care than Venezuela, and in some respects better care than the United States.


They have a different definition of "live birth" than the US, that causes many deaths to not be included and make their figures look a lot better.
 
2013-03-02 05:11:10 PM

downstairs: Serious question about all this, I've been wondering since the news of his cancer broke.

Why is he going to Cuba for treatment?  I would be shocked that Cuba has better cancer doctors- or any medical stuff- than Venezuela.  I'd assume Venezuela isn't the best in the world, but are they really worse than Cuba?


It's closer to Miami.
 
2013-03-02 05:12:24 PM

Takeshi6400: They have a different definition of "live birth" than the US, that causes many deaths to not be included and make their figures look a lot better.


Awww, did that mean old Castro steal your toy banana?
 
2013-03-02 05:19:46 PM

Marcintosh: perhaps it's that conservatives don't know anything about Citizens Energy Corporation or going over to a neighbors home to split wood for the elderly or disabled.


I see you, Joe Kennedy.  Three generations of self-aggrandizing, addiction-prone, Nazi-sympathizing, pocket-lining limousine liberals is enough.  Uphold the final element of your family tradition.
 
2013-03-02 05:22:30 PM

macadamnut: Takeshi6400: They have a different definition of "live birth" than the US, that causes many deaths to not be included and make their figures look a lot better.

Awww, did that mean old Castro steal your toy banana?


Uuumm......ok.

Cuba is one of many countries that has a different definition of what constitutes a "live birth."  The United States counts any baby exhibiting any signs of life as a live birth.  In France, Czech Republic, Ireland and Holland it has to be over 22 weeks and 500gm before it is counted.  The United States also counts premature babies who die before their due date but many other countries do not.  Many countries also report deaths in the first 24 hours of life as still births rather than infant deaths.  In the US they would be counted as infant deaths.
 
2013-03-02 05:27:29 PM
Y'know, I'm not one to cheer for someone's impending death, but YAY!!
 
2013-03-02 05:29:58 PM

Takeshi6400: macadamnut: Takeshi6400: They have a different definition of "live birth" than the US, that causes many deaths to not be included and make their figures look a lot better.

Awww, did that mean old Castro steal your toy banana?

Uuumm......ok.

Cuba is one of many countries that has a different definition of what constitutes a "live birth."  The United States counts any baby exhibiting any signs of life as a live birth.  In France, Czech Republic, Ireland and Holland it has to be over 22 weeks and 500gm before it is counted.  The United States also counts premature babies who die before their due date but many other countries do not.  Many countries also report deaths in the first 24 hours of life as still births rather than infant deaths.  In the US they would be counted as infant deaths.


In the U.S. your life expectancy can drop by 10 years because you're not white.
 
2013-03-02 05:42:17 PM

Theeng: Chavez was dick, just a dick that got a lot of publicity and power.

Certainly no Stalin.


Or even Noriega.  I'd rate him a bit worse than Berlusconi though.  In any case, he's a ridiculous popinjay who's not worth 10% of the villification and paranoia the GOP and Foxs spewed over him.
 
2013-03-02 05:43:37 PM
Dude's on his fourth line of chemo, 4 surgeries. This is stage IV of the recalcitrant variety.
How long he will live depends on which tumor he has.
 
2013-03-02 05:44:46 PM
Not stating what kind of cancer he has? Isn't it obvious? He's got Asshole Cancer.

This could very well be the case. Though the fact that he's had surgery four times kinda makes you wonder, how many assholes have been removed?
 
2013-03-02 05:45:49 PM
How DARE him for attempting energy resource sovereignty!  ALL YOUR OILS ARE BELONG TO THE NATION OF FREEDOM!!!!
 
2013-03-02 05:48:12 PM
Too bad for him.  If he had been president of the Soviet Union it would have only been a cold.
 
2013-03-02 05:48:18 PM
Why is Hugo Chavez hated by Americans so much? He is a hero for the poor, that is why.
God speed Chavez
 
2013-03-02 05:56:22 PM

downstairs: Serious question about all this, I've been wondering since the news of his cancer broke.

Why is he going to Cuba for treatment?  I would be shocked that Cuba has better cancer doctors- or any medical stuff- than Venezuela.  I'd assume Venezuela isn't the best in the world, but are they really worse than Cuba?


It's called security.  You don't risk a doctor in your own country from being paid off to do more harm.
 
2013-03-02 06:08:27 PM
Is Franco still dead?
 
2013-03-02 06:29:29 PM

cloud_van_dame: Not stating what kind of cancer he has? Isn't it obvious? He's got Asshole Cancer.

This could very well be the case. Though the fact that he's had surgery four times kinda makes you wonder, how many assholes have been removed?


Well, usually after your second time around with colon cancer is when you end up with a colostomy bag. Unless you have a really bad case to begin with.

/dad had colon cancer
//got a bag after he relapsed
///thankfully, he's still around now
////and yeah, Chavez may have been a dick, but he doesn't deserve near as much of the hate that he gets from conservatives
 
2013-03-02 06:40:58 PM

St_Francis_P: That link has me convinced.


I can imagine Chavez standing in line outside the dictators club in hell, the demonic bouncer looking in his little black book, noting the pathetically low body count next to Mr Chavez's name, then shaking his head and turning him away. "Sorry Sir. Perhaps sir, the La Bamba club down the street, I hear Jimmy Carter and Woody Allen are playing tonight"
 
2013-03-02 07:03:08 PM
SNL must bring back the Franco joke. Please.
 
2013-03-02 07:07:17 PM
germ78:
/dad had colon cancer
//got a bag after he relapsed
///thankfully, he's still around now
////and yeah, Chavez may have been a dick, but he doesn't deserve near as much of the hate that he gets from conservatives


Congratulations. Enjoy whatever time you have. My father-in-law had colon cancer. He wasn't lucky enough to get it the second time.
 
2013-03-02 07:09:04 PM
Here's another serious question. How is Venezuela as a travel destination? I would assume that there's not a huge influx of Americans in there, so it might be a nice change...
 
2013-03-02 07:28:37 PM

ausfahrk: Takeshi6400: macadamnut: Takeshi6400: They have a different definition of "live birth" than the US, that causes many deaths to not be included and make their figures look a lot better.

Awww, did that mean old Castro steal your toy banana?

Uuumm......ok.

Cuba is one of many countries that has a different definition of what constitutes a "live birth."  The United States counts any baby exhibiting any signs of life as a live birth.  In France, Czech Republic, Ireland and Holland it has to be over 22 weeks and 500gm before it is counted.  The United States also counts premature babies who die before their due date but many other countries do not.  Many countries also report deaths in the first 24 hours of life as still births rather than infant deaths.  In the US they would be counted as infant deaths.

In the U.S. your life expectancy can drop by 10 years because you're not white.


So you're saying black and Mexicans are dragging us down in yet another way?

Is there any Easter egg hunt they can't turn into a buttfarkathon?
 
2013-03-02 07:30:59 PM

finnished: Here's another serious question. How is Venezuela as a travel destination? I would assume that there's not a huge influx of Americans in there, so it might be a nice change...


I was only in a border town, so I don't know for sure.  Angel Falls are supposed to be beautiful and Maricabo is a destination as well.  Probably not the best idea to hit Caracas though.
 
2013-03-02 07:32:24 PM
maracaibo
 
2013-03-02 07:46:41 PM

hasty ambush: Wittenberg Dropout: Was dude responsible for the death's of millions? Nah, he's hardly a footnote in the annals of dictatorship, but boy does he really piss American conservatives off.

What is sad is thathe does not piss off American "progressives".


What I love is that American conservatives seem to be all outraged by the Cuban government and want to enforce that embargo that hasn't worked for 60 years, yet never a peep about placing an embargo on China.
 
2013-03-02 07:48:06 PM

WorldCitizen: hasty ambush: Wittenberg Dropout: Was dude responsible for the death's of millions? Nah, he's hardly a footnote in the annals of dictatorship, but boy does he really piss American conservatives off.

What is sad is thathe does not piss off American "progressives".

What I love is that American conservatives seem to be all outraged by the Cuban government and want to enforce that embargo that hasn't worked for 60 years, yet never a peep about placing an embargo on China.


Dissident Chinese can't swim here on old boats and gain the right to vote.
 
2013-03-02 07:50:43 PM
Did anyone else notice that Chavez has been cultivating a ridiculous cult of personality?  The newspapers are saying silly things like "Chavez got cancer because he was working so very hard for the people that he neglected his health.
 
2013-03-02 07:50:54 PM

MNguy: WorldCitizen: hasty ambush: Wittenberg Dropout: Was dude responsible for the death's of millions? Nah, he's hardly a footnote in the annals of dictatorship, but boy does he really piss American conservatives off.

What is sad is thathe does not piss off American "progressives".

What I love is that American conservatives seem to be all outraged by the Cuban government and want to enforce that embargo that hasn't worked for 60 years, yet never a peep about placing an embargo on China.

Dissident Chinese can't swim here on old boats and gain the right to vote.


Well, true. And then the Cubans vote Republican in a very important swing state.
 
2013-03-02 07:52:19 PM
Came for a Francisco Franco reference, Leaving disappointed
 
2013-03-02 07:55:42 PM

WorldCitizen: MNguy: WorldCitizen: hasty ambush: Wittenberg Dropout: Was dude responsible for the death's of millions? Nah, he's hardly a footnote in the annals of dictatorship, but boy does he really piss American conservatives off.

What is sad is thathe does not piss off American "progressives".

What I love is that American conservatives seem to be all outraged by the Cuban government and want to enforce that embargo that hasn't worked for 60 years, yet never a peep about placing an embargo on China.

Dissident Chinese can't swim here on old boats and gain the right to vote.

Well, true. And then the Cubans vote Republican in a very important swing state.

 
2013-03-02 08:15:22 PM

gibbon1: St_Francis_P: That link has me convinced.

I can imagine Chavez standing in line outside the dictators club in hell, the demonic bouncer looking in his little black book, noting the pathetically low body count next to Mr Chavez's name, then shaking his head and turning him away. "Sorry Sir. Perhaps sir, the La Bamba club down the street, I hear Jimmy Carter and Woody Allen are playing tonight"


Seriously!  Would Chavez even make double-A in the tyrants league?

/Being a dick and even screwing with freedom of the press can't make you a Stalin.
 
2013-03-02 08:34:01 PM
have any of you met any people from venezuela? i can't speak with any authority but of the 50 or so people i've met from the country, very few of them really cared for chavez. not saying they hated him but they definitely did not like him or many of his policies, to the point they said they would not recommend me coming to visit any time soon...
 
2013-03-02 08:36:02 PM

DerPups: have any of you met any people from venezuela? i can't speak with any authority but of the 50 or so people i've met from the country, very few of them really cared for chavez. not saying they hated him but they definitely did not like him or many of his policies, to the point they said they would not recommend me coming to visit any time soon...


How did you meet 50 Venezuelans without going there?
 
2013-03-02 08:52:46 PM

flypusher713: Seriously! Would Chavez even make double-A in the tyrants league?


I wouldn't doubt that Jenny McCartney has killed more people than Chavez.  Far as I know nothing like say the Argentinian Dirty war is going on.in Venezuela. Crime, police violence, corruption, dirty politics, mismanagement, sure, but really who cares vs any where else.  I can go to Florida for that stuff.
 
2013-03-02 08:54:46 PM
So who would get drafted into the developmental league first, Chavez or Noriega?
 
2013-03-02 09:32:24 PM

SBinRR: So who would get drafted into the developmental league first, Chavez or Noriega?


I think they're both washed out at this point.
 
2013-03-02 10:51:33 PM

NDP2: Theeng: Chavez was dick, just a dick that got a lot of publicity and power.

Certainly no Stalin.

Or even Noriega.  I'd rate him a bit worse than Berlusconi though.  In any case, he's a ridiculous popinjay who's not worth 10% of the villification and paranoia the GOP and Foxs spewed over him.


 I have torture marks around my body from Chavez's political police that'll disagree with you.
 
2013-03-03 02:21:53 AM
I don't like the guy either, but he's nowhere close to any of the guys in the headline.
 
2013-03-03 02:52:33 AM
Again?
 
2013-03-03 03:33:57 AM

JonBuck: I don't like the guy either, but he's nowhere close to any of the guys in the headline.


It's problem, there are rational reasons fro calling Chavez, but they're drowned out by a river of pearl clutching bullshait by people no one trusts. Which probably a decent reason as any why Chavez remains in power.
 
2013-03-03 07:24:20 AM
The people in Venezuela love Chavez and that's all that should matter to us. He is better liked than most leaders, especially in the West. That he did anything wrong is all in the eyes of ignorant people. It's kind of like how people all across the world hate Western governments (much more than they dislike Chavez). Western governments have obviously done exponentially more "bad" than Chavez ever did. But the official Western line is that they don't like him (even though they do), so the people follow suit like good citizens.
 
2013-03-03 07:40:40 AM

JonnyG: The people in Venezuela love Chavez and that's all that should matter to us. He is better liked than most leaders, especially in the West. That he did anything wrong is all in the eyes of ignorant people. It's kind of like how people all across the world hate Western governments (much more than they dislike Chavez). Western governments have obviously done exponentially more "bad" than Chavez ever did. But the official Western line is that they don't like him (even though they do), so the people follow suit like good citizens.


You are a complete moran.  Keep on keepin on.
 
2013-03-03 07:47:39 AM

finnished: Here's another serious question. How is Venezuela as a travel destination? I would assume that there's not a huge influx of Americans in there, so it might be a nice change...


If that's your line of reasoning, stick with Cuba. They're setup better for tourists anyway
 
2013-03-03 09:01:10 AM

MNguy: JonnyG: The people in Venezuela love Chavez and that's all that should matter to us. He is better liked than most leaders, especially in the West. That he did anything wrong is all in the eyes of ignorant people. It's kind of like how people all across the world hate Western governments (much more than they dislike Chavez). Western governments have obviously done exponentially more "bad" than Chavez ever did. But the official Western line is that they don't like him (even though they do), so the people follow suit like good citizens.

You are a complete moran.  Keep on keepin on.


MNguy: JonnyG: The people in Venezuela love Chavez and that's all that should matter to us. He is better liked than most leaders, especially in the West. That he did anything wrong is all in the eyes of ignorant people. It's kind of like how people all across the world hate Western governments (much more than they dislike Chavez). Western governments have obviously done exponentially more "bad" than Chavez ever did. But the official Western line is that they don't like him (even though they do), so the people follow suit like good citizens.

You are a complete moran.  Keep on keepin on.


Come on, his reasoning is based on logic. Kneejerk logic, but still
 
2013-03-03 09:59:37 AM

The Face Of Oblivion: Marcintosh: perhaps it's that conservatives don't know anything about Citizens Energy Corporation or going over to a neighbors home to split wood for the elderly or disabled.

I see you, Joe Kennedy.  Three generations of self-aggrandizing, addiction-prone, Nazi-sympathizing, pocket-lining limousine liberals is enough.  Uphold the final element of your family tradition.


still casting stones eh?  Good luck
 
2013-03-03 11:22:30 AM

maq0r: NDP2: Theeng: Chavez was dick, just a dick that got a lot of publicity and power.

Certainly no Stalin.

Or even Noriega.  I'd rate him a bit worse than Berlusconi though.  In any case, he's a ridiculous popinjay who's not worth 10% of the villification and paranoia the GOP and Foxs spewed over him.

 I have torture marks around my body from Chavez's political police that'll disagree with you.


I was trying to remember your username, I was wondering if you were still around Fark. I don't read every Chavez thread, but I know you've posted about the shiat that's gone down in your past before. At this point I'm surprised you don't just keep links to your old posts handy to cut-and-paste whenever someone says, "meh, he's not really all that bad."
 
2013-03-03 02:19:01 PM

schief2: I have torture marks around my body from Chavez's political police that'll disagree with you.

I was trying to remember your username, I was wondering if you were still around Fark. I don't read every Chavez thread, but I know you've posted about the shiat that's gone down in your past before. At this point I'm surprised you don't just keep links to your old posts handy to cut-and-paste whenever someone says, "meh, he's not really all that bad."


I guess he could show pictures, or not.
 
2013-03-06 11:50:24 AM

studs up: Wittenberg Dropout: Was dude responsible for the death's of millions? Nah, he's hardly a footnote in the annals of dictatorship, but boy does he really piss American conservatives off.

More of an amusement really. Except that whole theft of Exxon assets, I find him to be a clown. I fully expect the Che Brigade to re-write his accomplishments in glowing terms then repeat those lies so often they believe them. It's not like it hasn't happened before.


http://www.thenation.com/article/173212/legacy-hugo-chavez#
That didn't take long....

hey maq0r....you win. HC is rimjobbing Adolf right now.
 
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