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2013-03-02 12:08:21 PM
TFA: When told that a lab commission by NPR had tested several Budweiser samples and found them to match their labeled alcohol content, Boxer dismissed our test results, confident that when he gets his hands on Anheuser-Busch's internal testing, he'll still have a strong case.

Wait.  So he's going to dismiss a third-party result, confident that internal testing by the company he's suing is going to be MORE accurate?  Grasping at straws, there...
 
2013-03-02 12:49:13 PM
I figured this was the case.  I'm sure it was just Budweiser trying to broaden its appeal.
 
2013-03-02 12:49:24 PM

downstairs: TFA: When told that a lab commission by NPR had tested several Budweiser samples and found them to match their labeled alcohol content, Boxer dismissed our test results, confident that when he gets his hands on Anheuser-Busch's internal testing, he'll still have a strong case.

Wait.  So he's going to dismiss a third-party result, confident that internal testing by the company he's suing is going to be MORE accurate?  Grasping at straws, there...


So glad I don't have the kind of job where I'm paid to believe and spout such obvious lies.
 
2013-03-02 12:50:29 PM
From TFA
"How would you feel if you paid premium prices for premium gas and were told that in fact, they were giving you the low-grade gas?"

Friend, when you're talking about Budweiser there are just some metaphors that you should think more carefully about using...
 
2013-03-02 12:50:30 PM
I pointed out on a thread on Reddit that Budweiser, at 5%, has more alcohol than the top selling beers in England (Carling, 4.1%) and Australia (VB, 4.6% IIRC). Even Bud Light at 4.2% is stronger than England's top selling.
 
2013-03-02 12:50:38 PM

downstairs: TFA: When told that a lab commission by NPR had tested several Budweiser samples and found them to match their labeled alcohol content, Boxer dismissed our test results, confident that when he gets his hands on Anheuser-Busch's internal testing, he'll still have a strong case.

Wait.  So he's going to dismiss a third-party result, confident that internal testing by the company he's suing is going to be MORE accurate?  Grasping at straws, there...



5% ABV is beer enough for me.

Is this guy expecting some high powered beer like some of the micros and crafts have been doing?
 
2013-03-02 12:50:50 PM
At Thunderhead brewery in Kearney, nebraska, they used to have a Russian barman. When anyone would ask him if they had Bud light, he'd dip a glass into the rinse water, and give them that. The man was a hero.
 
2013-03-02 12:51:39 PM
I don't mind budweiser or mgd when I'm working on my car or something but I tend to save the good stuff for a snifter in the evening. Nothing wrong with those types of beers. There's plenty of selection out there if you don't like them.
 
2013-03-02 12:53:29 PM
I thought it was 6%? In any case while Budweiser may lack flavor, it definitely gets the job done for people looking to get drunk.
 
2013-03-02 12:57:32 PM

downstairs: TFA: When told that a lab commission by NPR had tested several Budweiser samples and found them to match their labeled alcohol content, Boxer dismissed our test results, confident that when he gets his hands on Anheuser-Busch's internal testing, he'll still have a strong case.

Wait.  So he's going to dismiss a third-party result, confident that internal testing by the company he's suing is going to be MORE accurate?  Grasping at straws, there...


I refuse to believe anything from NPR, as it is an ultraliberal Marxist propaganda machine, which gets 110% of its funding from taxes stolen from job creators.  (They embezzle the extra 10% for limousines, Iranian caviar, and speech lessons for Diane Rehm.)

No doubt they are trying to undermine confidence in American beers, like Budweiser, in favor of froo-froo homosexual foreign beers like Stella Artois (from Belgium), Löwenbräu (from Germany), or Corona (from Mexico).  They probably used science, which has a known liberal bias.  I sure hope Fox and Friends does their own testing, with science-free methodology, so we know it can be trusted.
 
2013-03-02 12:58:07 PM
Want stronger beer? Just add vodak.
 
2013-03-02 12:58:11 PM
Drinking one now.
/May have runny shiats later, but what the hell
 
2013-03-02 01:01:36 PM
...as Coors Light slowly backs out of the room.
 
2013-03-02 01:02:34 PM
[Obvious]
 
2013-03-02 01:03:32 PM
So NPR is now a schill for Anheiser- Busch?
 
2013-03-02 01:05:05 PM

Enigmamf: I pointed out on a thread on Reddit that Budweiser, at 5%, has more alcohol than the top selling beers in England (Carling, 4.1%) and Australia (VB, 4.6% IIRC). Even Bud Light at 4.2% is stronger than England's top selling.


Newcastle has 4.7 and is delicious while still not being too heavy for a hot summer day.  I'll accept the penalty of drinking less than 10% more of them than Budweisers.
 
2013-03-02 01:06:56 PM
I dislike the stuff as mush as the next snob, but it seems to me that when filing a class action lawsuit, one must have more evidence than a (from the article's explanation, clearly misunderstood) statement of an employee.
 
2013-03-02 01:15:16 PM

Smackledorfer: Enigmamf: I pointed out on a thread on Reddit that Budweiser, at 5%, has more alcohol than the top selling beers in England (Carling, 4.1%) and Australia (VB, 4.6% IIRC). Even Bud Light at 4.2% is stronger than England's top selling.

Newcastle has 4.7 and is delicious while still not being too heavy for a hot summer day.  I'll accept the penalty of drinking less than 10% more of them than Budweisers.


You don't get to pick-and-choose what the top selling beer in your homeland is. Your countrymen do that for you. And if Americans are going to get pegged with Bud on that basis, you should be judged on Carling.
 
2013-03-02 01:15:34 PM

Enigmamf: I pointed out on a thread on Reddit that Budweiser, at 5%, has more alcohol than the top selling beers in England (Carling, 4.1%) and Australia (VB, 4.6% IIRC). Even Bud Light at 4.2% is stronger than England's top selling.


Higher alcohol content does not equal superior product.
 
2013-03-02 01:16:48 PM
Tried DNA test yet?
 
2013-03-02 01:19:27 PM

miniflea: I dislike the stuff as mush as the next snob, but it seems to me that when filing a class action lawsuit, one must have more evidence than a (from the article's explanation, clearly misunderstood) statement of an employee.


Well, you don't have to have it when filing, though that's usually a pretty good idea. You usually need it to win a class action suit, though.
 
2013-03-02 01:20:51 PM
InBev has been systematically changing their hops to less expensive varieties.  Perhaps that could be the reason for a taste shift which some people perceive as being more watery?
 
2013-03-02 01:22:09 PM
Five percent ABV?  I would have thought it was half that.
 
2013-03-02 01:22:38 PM

r1niceboy: At Thunderhead brewery in Kearney, nebraska, they used to have a Russian barman. When anyone would ask him if they had Bud light, he'd dip a glass into the rinse water, and give them that. The man was a hero.


A man enters an establishment that sells a product, and orders a brand of that product, the largest selling band of that product in the country and the worker tries to humiliate that man, and that's the actions of a hero?

Here's a link to a pic of the taps at Thunderhead.
http://i.imgur.com/1yEH1.jpg

Notice the tap 7th from the right? Yeah, that's Coors Light. Either your story is, shall we say, an embellishment, or the bar man is an ass.
 
2013-03-02 01:23:36 PM

Parthenogenetic: downstairs: TFA: When told that a lab commission by NPR had tested several Budweiser samples and found them to match their labeled alcohol content, Boxer dismissed our test results, confident that when he gets his hands on Anheuser-Busch's internal testing, he'll still have a strong case.

Wait.  So he's going to dismiss a third-party result, confident that internal testing by the company he's suing is going to be MORE accurate?  Grasping at straws, there...

I refuse to believe anything from NPR, as it is an ultraliberal Marxist propaganda machine, which gets 110% of its funding from taxes stolen from job creators.  (They embezzle the extra 10% for limousines, Iranian caviar, and speech lessons for Diane Rehm.)

No doubt they are trying to undermine confidence in American beers, like Budweiser, in favor of froo-froo homosexual foreign beers like Stella Artois (from Belgium), Löwenbräu (from Germany), or Corona (from Mexico).  They probably used science, which has a known liberal bias.  I sure hope Fox and Friends does their own testing, with science-free methodology, so we know it can be trusted.


Ok I loled
 
2013-03-02 01:24:16 PM

Derigiberble: InBev has been systematically changing their hops to less expensive varieties.  Perhaps that could be the reason for a taste shift which some people perceive as being more watery?


If you had the palate to detect a shift in the taste of Budweiser, wouldn't you be drinking something else?
 
2013-03-02 01:25:13 PM

Enigmamf: Smackledorfer: Enigmamf: I pointed out on a thread on Reddit that Budweiser, at 5%, has more alcohol than the top selling beers in England (Carling, 4.1%) and Australia (VB, 4.6% IIRC). Even Bud Light at 4.2% is stronger than England's top selling.

Newcastle has 4.7 and is delicious while still not being too heavy for a hot summer day.  I'll accept the penalty of drinking less than 10% more of them than Budweisers.

You don't get to pick-and-choose what the top selling beer in your homeland is. Your countrymen do that for you. And if Americans are going to get pegged with Bud on that basis, you should be judged on Carling.


I'm not british, and not everyone in the world judges the salt of the earth cheap top-selling beers as the representation of quality in a country.

Nobody does that with any other product, I don't see why anyone pretends it makes sense with beer.
 
2013-03-02 01:25:43 PM

Smackledorfer: Enigmamf: I pointed out on a thread on Reddit that Budweiser, at 5%, has more alcohol than the top selling beers in England (Carling, 4.1%) and Australia (VB, 4.6% IIRC). Even Bud Light at 4.2% is stronger than England's top selling.

Newcastle has 4.7 and is delicious while still not being too heavy for a hot summer day.  I'll accept the penalty of drinking less than 10% more of them than Budweisers.


You really enjoy a Newcastle on a hot summer day? I've always enjoyed it in cooler months, but maybe I'll have to give it another whirl this summer.

Of course, Magic Hat #9 is my summer go-to, and it's a tough habit to break
 
2013-03-02 01:28:49 PM

NightOwl2255: r1niceboy: At Thunderhead brewery in Kearney, nebraska, they used to have a Russian barman. When anyone would ask him if they had Bud light, he'd dip a glass into the rinse water, and give them that. The man was a hero.

A man enters an establishment that sells a product, and orders a brand of that product, the largest selling band of that product in the country and the worker tries to humiliate that man, and that's the actions of a hero?

Here's a link to a pic of the taps at Thunderhead.
http://i.imgur.com/1yEH1.jpg

Notice the tap 7th from the right? Yeah, that's Coors Light. Either your story is, shall we say, an embellishment, or the bar man is an ass.


Yes. Working to save the nation from the scourge of crappy beer, however popular, is an act of heroism. If you want an easygoing, refreshing lager... well, that's what Yuengling is for. If you don't care about taste and just want to get hammered, well, that's what rail vodka is for, but please go to the next bar over instead, I don't want you puking on my floor.
 
2013-03-02 01:29:04 PM

Hot Lunch: Smackledorfer: Enigmamf: I pointed out on a thread on Reddit that Budweiser, at 5%, has more alcohol than the top selling beers in England (Carling, 4.1%) and Australia (VB, 4.6% IIRC). Even Bud Light at 4.2% is stronger than England's top selling.

Newcastle has 4.7 and is delicious while still not being too heavy for a hot summer day.  I'll accept the penalty of drinking less than 10% more of them than Budweisers.

You really enjoy a Newcastle on a hot summer day? I've always enjoyed it in cooler months, but maybe I'll have to give it another whirl this summer.

Of course, Magic Hat #9 is my summer go-to, and it's a tough habit to break


Newkie Brown is a surprisingly capable lawnmower beer.  Flavorful without being too heavy.

Personally, on a hot summer day I really like a Unibroue Éphémère or a Brooklyn Summer Ale if I can get my hands on either of them.
 
2013-03-02 01:31:10 PM

miniflea: I dislike the stuff as mush as the next snob, but it seems to me that when filing a class action lawsuit, one must have more evidence than a (from the article's explanation, clearly misunderstood) statement of an employee.


Are you drunk?
 
2013-03-02 01:34:21 PM

Smackledorfer: Enigmamf: Smackledorfer: Enigmamf: I pointed out on a thread on Reddit that Budweiser, at 5%, has more alcohol than the top selling beers in England (Carling, 4.1%) and Australia (VB, 4.6% IIRC). Even Bud Light at 4.2% is stronger than England's top selling.

Newcastle has 4.7 and is delicious while still not being too heavy for a hot summer day.  I'll accept the penalty of drinking less than 10% more of them than Budweisers.

You don't get to pick-and-choose what the top selling beer in your homeland is. Your countrymen do that for you. And if Americans are going to get pegged with Bud on that basis, you should be judged on Carling.

I'm not british, and not everyone in the world judges the salt of the earth cheap top-selling beers as the representation of quality in a country.

Nobody does that with any other product, I don't see why anyone pretends it makes sense with beer.


They sure do with Americans. "Oh, you all and your bud. You're so lame. You should try real beer. Blah blah blah". Well your country's top selling beer is just as bad. Get over it.
 
2013-03-02 01:35:15 PM

Robo Beat: Five percent ABV?  I would have thought it was half that.


That's what makes Bud a perfectly serviceable beer #7, #8, etc. of the evening.

/what, I'm gonna pay twice as much to achieve the same goal?
 
2013-03-02 01:38:38 PM

cptjeff: Yes. Working to save the nation from the scourge of crappy beer, however popular, is an act of heroism


You might to tell Thunderhead Brewer to stop selling crappy beer since they sell Bud Light.
i939.photobucket.com
 
2013-03-02 01:46:49 PM

meat0918: downstairs: TFA: When told that a lab commission by NPR had tested several Budweiser samples and found them to match their labeled alcohol content, Boxer dismissed our test results, confident that when he gets his hands on Anheuser-Busch's internal testing, he'll still have a strong case.

Wait.  So he's going to dismiss a third-party result, confident that internal testing by the company he's suing is going to be MORE accurate?  Grasping at straws, there...


5% ABV is beer enough for me.

Is this guy expecting some high powered beer like some of the micros and crafts have been doing?


It has nothing to do with the actual ABV.  He's saying Bud claims they're 5%, but its less than that.  That's all.  If it were- its deceptive advertising.  Problem is, its not.
 
2013-03-02 01:54:38 PM

NightOwl2255: cptjeff: Yes. Working to save the nation from the scourge of crappy beer, however popular, is an act of heroism

You might to tell Thunderhead Brewer to stop selling crappy beer since they sell Bud Light.
[i939.photobucket.com image 789x331]


That picture in no way disproves a story about an individual bartender refusing to serve it.
 
2013-03-02 01:56:41 PM
How sad is it to be a professional taster for Bud? Wasting a refined palate on that dreck is like a highly skilled artist being assigned to spot-check Kinkade prints.
 
2013-03-02 01:57:00 PM
Friend of mine used to work at an Anhueser-Busch bottling facility. Said that when they switched from Bud to Busch on the bottling line, they'd "clear the lines" by putting Bud into Busch bottles or vice/versa. No one ever noticed or complained....
 
2013-03-02 01:59:51 PM

Parthenogenetic: downstairs: TFA: When told that a lab commission by NPR had tested several Budweiser samples and found them to match their labeled alcohol content, Boxer dismissed our test results, confident that when he gets his hands on Anheuser-Busch's internal testing, he'll still have a strong case.

Wait.  So he's going to dismiss a third-party result, confident that internal testing by the company he's suing is going to be MORE accurate?  Grasping at straws, there...

I refuse to believe anything from NPR, as it is an ultraliberal Marxist propaganda machine, which gets 110% of its funding from taxes stolen from job creators.  (They embezzle the extra 10% for limousines, Iranian caviar, and speech lessons for Diane Rehm.)

No doubt they are trying to undermine confidence in American beers, like Budweiser, in favor of froo-froo homosexual foreign beers like Stella Artois (from Belgium), Löwenbräu (from Germany), or Corona (from Mexico).  They probably used science, which has a known liberal bias.  I sure hope Fox and Friends does their own testing, with science-free methodology, so we know it can be trusted.


Everything about this was perfect. Have you ever been kissed by a straight man? (Question does not apply if you're a straight woman)
 
2013-03-02 02:05:52 PM
When I see what, how, and where Americans eat it always reminds me of my uncle's pig farm.
 
2013-03-02 02:10:39 PM

cptjeff: NightOwl2255: cptjeff: Yes. Working to save the nation from the scourge of crappy beer, however popular, is an act of heroism

You might to tell Thunderhead Brewer to stop selling crappy beer since they sell Bud Light.
[i939.photobucket.com image 789x331]

That picture in no way disproves a story about an individual bartender refusing to serve it.


No,but it does negate the heroism. That's a douchey thing to do. Work at or visit bars that don't serve bud light if it's that big of a deal.
 
2013-03-02 02:13:11 PM

Enigmamf: I pointed out on a thread on Reddit that Budweiser, at 5%, has more alcohol than the top selling beers in England (Carling, 4.1%) and Australia (VB, 4.6% IIRC). Even Bud Light at 4.2% is stronger than England's top selling.


Thanks for fighting the good fight. The persistent claim that American beer is weak may arise from some genuine problem with our mass-produced brews, but simply perpetuating a myth that has more to do with measurement systems doesn't do anything to solve it. I'm happy with the status quo - we have excellent microbreweries all over the country and relatively decent lawnmower beers coming from the middle. In addition to that, any serious stay in many of these countries seems to confirm that their beer is not so much stronger as it is simply, as a whole, darker (and in Germany, I don't even really remember it being all that much darker, at least in the north).

Plus we have better sports to watch while drinking our beer.
 
2013-03-02 02:13:56 PM

picturescrazy: cptjeff: NightOwl2255: cptjeff: Yes. Working to save the nation from the scourge of crappy beer, however popular, is an act of heroism

You might to tell Thunderhead Brewer to stop selling crappy beer since they sell Bud Light.
[i939.photobucket.com image 789x331]

That picture in no way disproves a story about an individual bartender refusing to serve it.

No,but it does negate the heroism. That's a douchey thing to do. Work at or visit bars that don't serve bud light if it's that big of a deal.


Not in the slightest.
 
2013-03-02 02:42:26 PM
Most large breweries let their beer ferment to 8 or 8.5 percent alcohol and then water them down to get more mileage out of the brewing process.

The Alcohol content is always within limits, it just tastes watered down.
 
2013-03-02 02:48:56 PM
I remember from reading back in my heavy home brew days that all the majors brewed a stronger beer (around 9% abv) then cut it at bottling to the proper strength. It saved them millions on brewing space and distribution brewing and distributing to the bottlers a "concentrated" brew. I think it was from an old copy of Zymurgy.
 
2013-03-02 02:51:49 PM

NightOwl2255: r1niceboy: At Thunderhead brewery in Kearney, nebraska, they used to have a Russian barman. When anyone would ask him if they had Bud light, he'd dip a glass into the rinse water, and give them that. The man was a hero.

A man enters an establishment that sells a product, and orders a brand of that product, the largest selling band of that product in the country and the worker tries to humiliate that man, and that's the actions of a hero?

Here's a link to a pic of the taps at Thunderhead.
http://i.imgur.com/1yEH1.jpg

Notice the tap 7th from the right? Yeah, that's Coors Light. Either your story is, shall we say, an embellishment, or the bar man is an ass.


He said bud light
 
2013-03-02 02:53:20 PM

Enigmamf: They sure do with Americans. "Oh, you all and your bud. You're so lame. You should try real beer. Blah blah blah". Well your country's top selling beer is just as bad. Get over it.


Do they? It seems like it is mostly you.  I've never met a foreign person who considered bud to be the cream of the American crop.

You also keep saying "your".  I live in Michigan.  But I think I see the problem.  Just as you repeatedly assume I'm not American when there is nothing I've said to suggest that (and in fact am defending Americans' ability to drink common drinks without having that represent our finer tastes), you are probably also just making up the profiles of people you think believe Americans only drink Bud.
 
2013-03-02 02:53:21 PM
It truly is a testament to the power of American advertising that people still buy and drink Budweiser, or any other "domestic" rice beer. It's even more shocking that some people will go so far as to defend it's "taste."

If you ignore the usual "domestic" suspects, then thankfully the US is starting to catch up to European standards, wherein beer should be delicious and refreshing, and not consumed to merely "get drunk."  In fact, I'd prefer LESS alcohol content so I could drink more beer without feeling too buzzed.
 
2013-03-02 02:54:40 PM

Ranger Rover: Plus we have better sports to watch while drinking our beer.


Now THAT is a fact, although I admit soccer is growing on me as I age.
 
2013-03-02 02:56:16 PM

cptjeff: NightOwl2255: r1niceboy: At Thunderhead brewery in Kearney, nebraska, they used to have a Russian barman. When anyone would ask him if they had Bud light, he'd dip a glass into the rinse water, and give them that. The man was a hero.

A man enters an establishment that sells a product, and orders a brand of that product, the largest selling band of that product in the country and the worker tries to humiliate that man, and that's the actions of a hero?

Here's a link to a pic of the taps at Thunderhead.
http://i.imgur.com/1yEH1.jpg

Notice the tap 7th from the right? Yeah, that's Coors Light. Either your story is, shall we say, an embellishment, or the bar man is an ass.

Yes. Working to save the nation from the scourge of crappy beer, however popular, is an act of heroism. If you want an easygoing, refreshing lager... well, that's what Yuengling is for. If you don't care about taste and just want to get hammered, well, that's what rail vodka is for, but please go to the next bar over instead, I don't want you puking on my floor.


I would not say yuengling is easy going but it's a better choice than bud on most days. however if it's 100 degrees out I'm grabbing bud or landshark.
 
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2013-03-02 02:56:23 PM

NightOwl2255: r1niceboy: At Thunderhead brewery in Kearney, nebraska, they used to have a Russian barman. When anyone would ask him if they had Bud light, he'd dip a glass into the rinse water, and give them that. The man was a hero.

A man enters an establishment that sells a product, and orders a brand of that product, the largest selling band of that product in the country and the worker tries to humiliate that man, and that's the actions of a hero?

Here's a link to a pic of the taps at Thunderhead.
http://i.imgur.com/1yEH1.jpg

Notice the tap 7th from the right? Yeah, that's Coors Light. Either your story is, shall we say, an embellishment, or the bar man is an ass.


I've been the Thunderhead. Stopped in once on a road trip from Denver to the Twin Cities.

Sucked ass. They may think they are doing interesting things with corn as an adjunct but it still sucks to drink something that tastes like it brewed in an old can of creamed corn.
 
2013-03-02 03:00:17 PM
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Balls
 
2013-03-02 03:06:15 PM

duffblue: cptjeff: NightOwl2255: r1niceboy: At Thunderhead brewery in Kearney, nebraska, they used to have a Russian barman. When anyone would ask him if they had Bud light, he'd dip a glass into the rinse water, and give them that. The man was a hero.

A man enters an establishment that sells a product, and orders a brand of that product, the largest selling band of that product in the country and the worker tries to humiliate that man, and that's the actions of a hero?

Here's a link to a pic of the taps at Thunderhead.
http://i.imgur.com/1yEH1.jpg

Notice the tap 7th from the right? Yeah, that's Coors Light. Either your story is, shall we say, an embellishment, or the bar man is an ass.

Yes. Working to save the nation from the scourge of crappy beer, however popular, is an act of heroism. If you want an easygoing, refreshing lager... well, that's what Yuengling is for. If you don't care about taste and just want to get hammered, well, that's what rail vodka is for, but please go to the next bar over instead, I don't want you puking on my floor.

I would not say yuengling is easy going but it's a better choice than bud on most days. however if it's 100 degrees out I'm grabbing bud or landshark.


Compared to other things in the class of "real beer" it's easygoing. But no, it's not easygoing and mild when you compare it to watered down horsepiss. Which is kind of the point.
 
2013-03-02 03:08:45 PM

garumph: I remember from reading back in my heavy home brew days that all the majors brewed a stronger beer (around 9% abv) then cut it at bottling to the proper strength. It saved them millions on brewing space and distribution brewing and distributing to the bottlers a "concentrated" brew. I think it was from an old copy of Zymurgy.


There was a fluff some years ago when Coor's had been advertizing "Brewed With Pure Rocky Mountain Spring Water".  People got bent out of shape to learn that the strong-brewed beer was shipped to bottlers in far flung places and topped off with water that wasn't from a Rocky Mountain spring.
 
2013-03-02 03:16:35 PM
Compare the hangover from Natural Light to Dogfishhead 90 minute IPA, then tell me what you're paying for.
 
2013-03-02 03:18:02 PM

RatOmeter: garumph: I remember from reading back in my heavy home brew days that all the majors brewed a stronger beer (around 9% abv) then cut it at bottling to the proper strength. It saved them millions on brewing space and distribution brewing and distributing to the bottlers a "concentrated" brew. I think it was from an old copy of Zymurgy.

There was a fluff some years ago when Coor's had been advertizing "Brewed With Pure Rocky Mountain Spring Water".  People got bent out of shape to learn that the strong-brewed beer was shipped to bottlers in far flung places and topped off with water that wasn't from a Rocky Mountain spring.


"Brewed with Pure Rocky Mountain Spring Water then Watered Down with a Municipal Water Source" doesn't have quite the same ring to it, does it?
 
2013-03-02 03:18:21 PM
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2013-03-02 03:39:38 PM
There seems to be two seperate discussions going on here. Bud may be as strong as or stranger than, this or that other beer which is fine if all your after is getting hammered. However it tastes like crap next to many other imports or craft beers. I drink beer for the way it tastes. If I want to get Hammered I'll have a Martini. I also love the flavor of good gin so that's a two-fer in my case.
 
2013-03-02 03:55:36 PM

Kermit The Toad: There seems to be two seperate discussions going on here. Bud may be as strong as or stranger than, this or that other beer which is fine if all your after is getting hammered. However it tastes like crap next to many other imports or craft beers. I drink beer for the way it tastes. If I want to get Hammered I'll have a Martini. I also love the flavor of good gin so that's a two-fer in my case.


If I want to get hammered, I'll drink a Martini, followed by a Manhattan, probably followed by something obscure in one of my cocktail books that looks like a good idea at the time.

Actually, I can't do that right now- I desperately need to buy sweet vermouth. I've wanted to make something calling for it at least 5 or 6 times now before realizing I hadn't gotten by the liquor store to buy some yet- the grocery store I usually go to these days has a pitiful wine section, and the only fortified anything they stock is cheap cooking sherry.
\Sometimes I start off with the obscure drink.
 
rka
2013-03-02 04:13:53 PM

Kermit The Toad: Bud may be as strong as or stranger than, this or that other beer which is fine if all your after is getting hammered. However it tastes like crap next to many other imports or craft beers.


1) Taste is subjective. No one gives a crap about your taste, my taste or anyone else's taste but their own. It's purely internet ego stroking to even talk about it. We all indulge in it, but it means nothing.

2) Bud (or any other US macro brew) being as strong or stronger than many others sort of makes the sort of person who thinks the "Why is American beer like a canoe" joke is accurate (or funny) look pretty damn stupid.
 
2013-03-02 04:29:29 PM
Budweiser and most large brewers brew 'heavy'. That is they brew a strong beer and add water before canning to meet the labeled ABV. This is just efficient use of their equipment. I suspect most people who drink Bud would not like it straight from the lagering tanks.
 
2013-03-02 04:54:29 PM
Has the percent of alcohol in beer gone down over the years?
I thought Bud was 7.2%  here in Florida at one time?
And I know we went across the river from W.Va. into Ohio because they had stronger beer.
 
2013-03-02 05:04:14 PM

LewDux: Tried DNA test yet?


Your horse has diabetes.
 
2013-03-02 05:05:23 PM

rka: 1) Taste is subjective. No one gives a crap about your taste, my taste or anyone else's taste but their own. It's purely internet ego stroking to even talk about it. We all indulge in it, but it means nothing.


i could not agree with you more. bud may not be everybodies cup of tea, but its a matter of taste. for a light american lager, its not bad at all.

/but it gives me awful, awful, AWFUL farts
 
2013-03-02 06:15:04 PM
Isn't NPR run by a bunch of Brits? Who in ther right mind would take their opinion about what taste good?
 
2013-03-02 06:50:16 PM
When told that a lab commission by NPR had tested several Budweiser samples and found them to match their labeled alcohol content, Boxer dismissed our test results, confident that when he gets his hands on Anheuser-Busch's internal testing, he'll still have a strong case.

What a damn idiot this guy is.  The end product was tested legitimately, give it up.
I have no problem believing that Bud is at full alcoholic strength.  The thing is, that's not what I care about.
I care about what it tastes like, and to me it still tastes like skunky ass.
 
2013-03-03 12:26:08 AM
maybe I'm misintepretating the entire thing altogether but wouldn;t this actually be a  further negative for Bud? I would've prefered if the test had shown that it was indeed watered down.. at least we know  the reason.. but now they are saying budweiser taste like it's watered down beer even though it really isn't.. HUH?

so WTF makes it taste watered down then?
 
2013-03-03 09:27:19 AM

xsarien: From TFA
"How would you feel if you paid premium prices for premium gas and were told that in fact, they were giving you the low-grade gas?"

Friend, when you're talking about Budweiser there are just some metaphors that you should think more carefully about using...


I came here to say this.  This guy is a moron and I hope the judge is a craft beer drinker, but a home brewing judge would make for a real interesting case.
 
2013-03-03 10:23:40 AM
Yuengling is only 4.4... I drink it because sometimes trippel at 7.8 just isn't in the budget or the schedule
 
2013-03-03 10:05:35 PM
I've been travelling today and spent much of my time reading a free from Kindle book written by Samuel McHarry and published by John Wyeth in 1809. Title: The Practical Distiller: OR An Introduction To Making Whiskey, Gin, Brandy, Spirits, etc, etc, of Better Quality, and in Larger Quantities, Than Produced by the Present Mode Of Distilling, From the Produce of the United States.

On beer, even in 1809, the author mentions brewing strong and watering (at least some of it) down to be "less heavy".

He has a couple of nice rants on the vileness of coffee in the book too.  Quite an interesting read.

/likes coffee
//hates bad coffee
/hates paying too much for good coffee
 
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