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2013-03-02 07:47:38 AM
If KC trades for his rights, Tebow should retire. He will never get a real shot at playing in the NFL as a QB, that ship sailed when he was traded out of Denver. Tim should switch to Fullback, where he has a good chance to get playing time in the NFL, and could be damn good. The guy has talent, he understands the game, and no one questions his excellent leadership qualities. Tebow is a position switch away from perhaps developing into one hell of an NFL player, maybe even a Hall of Famer. Seriously, he could be that good.

... Just not at quarterback. Fullback, maybe Tight End, that's where he needs to be playing this year.
 
2013-03-02 08:14:52 AM
Andy Reid can clog an artery *and* cloud a GM's mind
 
2013-03-02 08:29:33 AM

Mr. Coffee Nerves: Andy Reid can clog an artery *and* cloud a GM's mind


Andy Reid is the luckiest coach on the planet. He got every inch of rope possible in Philadelphia before they finally had to cut him loose, and now he gets a job with a team that isn't really that far off from being pretty decent, especially in a weak division like the AFC West. Give him the Alex Smith who actually played well the last couple of years, assuming he doesn't convert back into the Alex Smith we all know and laughed at in the NFC West the first few years of his career, and KC might actually do something in a few years.

That said, Tebow would be wasted in KC, holding a clipboard and watching any chance to really play go out the window. If he isn't a starter in some capacity this year, and I believe it will have to be at a different position than QB, then Tebow won't ever be a starter in the NFL. He might as well pack his bags and move to Canada, I'm sure someone in the CFL would appreciate his talents.
 
2013-03-02 10:43:04 AM

MmmmBacon: If KC trades for his rights, Tebow should retire. He will never get a real shot at playing in the NFL as a QB, that ship sailed when he was traded out of Denver. Tim should switch to Fullback, where he has a good chance to get playing time in the NFL, and could be damn good. The guy has talent, he understands the game, and no one questions his excellent leadership qualities. Tebow is a position switch away from perhaps developing into one hell of an NFL player, maybe even a Hall of Famer. Seriously, he could be that good.

... Just not at quarterback. Fullback, maybe Tight End, that's where he needs to be playing this year.


It is and has been trendy ti say that he would great at some other position. But wis there evidence that he would do any better at any other position? No evidence that he has particularly good hands or blocking skills. As a TE or a fullback, he's just another position player with a defensive player specifically assigned to him. At QB that is not always the case; defensive schemes don't and can't spy the QB every play, meaning he has opportunities where he is unaccounted for as a runner.
 
2013-03-02 11:10:59 AM
Please no.  The baggage Tebow comes with far outweighs any benefit.  What's more likely to happen is that the Teboners will start screaming for him to start, creating a qb controversy that destroys Smith's confidence just like it did Mark Sanchez.  Tebow himself won't say anything, but he's more than happen to let his moron brigade cause trouble.  It's just not worth it.  Smith needs to know that he's the guy.
 
2013-03-02 11:35:15 AM

kronicfeld: MmmmBacon: If KC trades for his rights, Tebow should retire. He will never get a real shot at playing in the NFL as a QB, that ship sailed when he was traded out of Denver. Tim should switch to Fullback, where he has a good chance to get playing time in the NFL, and could be damn good. The guy has talent, he understands the game, and no one questions his excellent leadership qualities. Tebow is a position switch away from perhaps developing into one hell of an NFL player, maybe even a Hall of Famer. Seriously, he could be that good.

... Just not at quarterback. Fullback, maybe Tight End, that's where he needs to be playing this year.

It is and has been trendy ti say that he would great at some other position. But wis there evidence that he would do any better at any other position? No evidence that he has particularly good hands or blocking skills. As a TE or a fullback, he's just another position player with a defensive player specifically assigned to him. At QB that is not always the case; defensive schemes don't and can't spy the QB every play, meaning he has opportunities where he is unaccounted for as a runner.




I'm really racking my brain trying to think of someone who successfully changed positions on the NFL level and was really successful afterward. Certainly not on offense: I guess there are people who have shifted from linebacker to safety or something like that. But this whole "Tebow should be a halfback!" thing makes no sense.
 
2013-03-02 11:36:46 AM

kronicfeld: MmmmBacon: If KC trades for his rights, Tebow should retire. He will never get a real shot at playing in the NFL as a QB, that ship sailed when he was traded out of Denver. Tim should switch to Fullback, where he has a good chance to get playing time in the NFL, and could be damn good. The guy has talent, he understands the game, and no one questions his excellent leadership qualities. Tebow is a position switch away from perhaps developing into one hell of an NFL player, maybe even a Hall of Famer. Seriously, he could be that good.

... Just not at quarterback. Fullback, maybe Tight End, that's where he needs to be playing this year.

It is and has been trendy ti say that he would great at some other position. But wis there evidence that he would do any better at any other position? No evidence that he has particularly good hands or blocking skills. As a TE or a fullback, he's just another position player with a defensive player specifically assigned to him. At QB that is not always the case; defensive schemes don't and can't spy the QB every play, meaning he has opportunities where he is unaccounted for as a runner.


The problem is the defense doesn't really need to spy Tebow as QB, they know he has a long and slow delivery, so it is easy to spot when he throws. Most of the time he'll run, especially if there is any pressure coming his way, so stack the box and force him to beat you with his arm. Until the 4th quarter, Tebow just can't do it.

That said, he has taken the handoff and ran well from the backfield, and he has caught short passes like you might ask a TE to do. Also he is big enough to block when needed, so on natural talent and physical skills alone Tebow should be able to handle a move to one of those positions. He'd be better in the backfield (Running back, Fullback, etc) than at TE, but I think he could do better there than trying to play QB. Especially when no NFL team is going to build their offense around his style of play, and that's the only way he could be successful at QB now.
 
2013-03-02 12:01:00 PM
jake_lex:
I'm really racking my brain trying to think of someone who successfully changed positions on the NFL level and was really successful afterward. Certainly not on offense: I guess there are people who have shifted from linebacker to safety or something like that. But this whole "Tebow should be a halfback!" thing makes no sense.

Brad Smith now primarily plays at wide receiver after being an awesome quarterback at Mizzou. Granted, he made the switch when he entered the NFL, but I don't see much difference.
 
2013-03-02 12:03:27 PM
If KC wants to bring that soap opera to their stadium, then they deserve to suck.
 
2013-03-02 12:05:08 PM
Lee "Hacksaw" Hamilton from AM 1090 sports radio in San Diego has been advocating this hard for the Chargers for a couple months...though more from a "utility" player that can handle several different positions including 3rd string or emergency quarterback.  I guess as the 53rd guy on the roster maybe.....but I don't see him becoming a solid position player and the NFL is too specialized for most teams to probably be able to afford him.
 
2013-03-02 12:07:45 PM
Fark no.
 
2013-03-02 12:08:55 PM

MmmmBacon: Mr. Coffee Nerves: Andy Reid can clog an artery *and* cloud a GM's mind

Andy Reid is the luckiest coach on the planet. He got every inch of rope possible in Philadelphia before they finally had to cut him loose, and now he gets a job with a team that isn't really that far off from being pretty decent, especially in a weak division like the AFC West. Give him the Alex Smith who actually played well the last couple of years, assuming he doesn't convert back into the Alex Smith we all know and laughed at in the NFC West the first few years of his career, and KC might actually do something in a few years.

That said, Tebow would be wasted in KC, holding a clipboard and watching any chance to really play go out the window. If he isn't a starter in some capacity this year, and I believe it will have to be at a different position than QB, then Tebow won't ever be a starter in the NFL. He might as well pack his bags and move to Canada, I'm sure someone in the CFL would appreciate his talents.


Alex Smith is fine when he has an o-line and bad when he doesn't.  Granted, this is most QBs, but that was the big difference between Smith of the past two years and Smith before then.
 
2013-03-02 12:37:29 PM
This sounds like it's Timmy Tebow's agent trying to sell his client, rather than the Chefs actually trying to get Tebow.
 
2013-03-02 12:41:04 PM

Mentat: Please no.  The baggage Tebow comes with far outweighs any benefit.  What's more likely to happen is that the Teboners will start screaming for him to start, creating a qb controversy that destroys Smith's confidence just like it did Mark Sanchez.  Tebow himself won't say anything, but he's more than happen to let his moron brigade cause trouble.  It's just not worth it.  Smith needs to know that he's the guy.


This is such garbage. Sanchez confidence was broken because he stunk last year. Frankly, if the Jets had a real backup, he would have been benched a whole lot earlier. If Smith can't handle the  pressure of a glorifed FB backing him up, then that's his problem.

KC shouldn't trade for Tebow because he's terrible, not because of his fans
 
2013-03-02 12:44:38 PM

MmmmBacon: If KC trades for his rights, Tebow should retire. He will never get a real shot at playing in the NFL as a QB, that ship sailed when he was traded out of Denver. Tim should switch to Fullback, where he has a good chance to get playing time in the NFL, and could be damn good. The guy has talent, he understands the game, and no one questions his excellent leadership qualities. Tebow is a position switch away from perhaps developing into one hell of an NFL player, maybe even a Hall of Famer. Seriously, he could be that good.

... Just not at quarterback. Fullback, maybe Tight End, that's where he needs to be playing this year.


He won't be better than a guy who's played that position through high school, college, and professionally.
 
2013-03-02 12:47:45 PM

MmmmBacon: If KC trades for his rights, Tebow should retire. He will never get a real shot at playing in the NFL as a QB, that ship sailed when he was traded out of Denver. Tim should switch to Fullback, where he has a good chance to get playing time in the NFL, and could be damn good. The guy has talent, he understands the game, and no one questions his excellent leadership qualities. Tebow is a position switch away from perhaps developing into one hell of an NFL player, maybe even a Hall of Famer. Seriously, he could be that good.

... Just not at quarterback. Fullback, maybe Tight End, that's where he needs to be playing this year.


probably - but he's from a Christian Dominionist family who's infected him with the idea he needs to be a Promise Keeper/leader of men, thus a QB on the team, and if he can't he'll just mope.
 
2013-03-02 12:48:51 PM
I can't understand why Tebow is not picking up on God's message to him that Tim should not be a QB. Talk about ignoring His message to you.
 
2013-03-02 01:02:54 PM
KC: 'We have a new, better QB...AND we have the first pick in the draft!  Now...how can we f*ck this up?'
 
2013-03-02 01:07:33 PM

skinink: I can't understand why Tebow is not picking up on God's message to him that Tim should not be a QB. Talk about ignoring His message to you.


Jesus H.Christ, this! A huge part of Christianity is accepting that God's plan for you is not your plan for yourself.
 
2013-03-02 01:22:45 PM

jake_lex: kronicfeld: MmmmBacon: If KC trades for his rights, Tebow should retire. He will never get a real shot at playing in the NFL as a QB, that ship sailed when he was traded out of Denver. Tim should switch to Fullback, where he has a good chance to get playing time in the NFL, and could be damn good. The guy has talent, he understands the game, and no one questions his excellent leadership qualities. Tebow is a position switch away from perhaps developing into one hell of an NFL player, maybe even a Hall of Famer. Seriously, he could be that good.

... Just not at quarterback. Fullback, maybe Tight End, that's where he needs to be playing this year.

It is and has been trendy ti say that he would great at some other position. But wis there evidence that he would do any better at any other position? No evidence that he has particularly good hands or blocking skills. As a TE or a fullback, he's just another position player with a defensive player specifically assigned to him. At QB that is not always the case; defensive schemes don't and can't spy the QB every play, meaning he has opportunities where he is unaccounted for as a runner.

I'm really racking my brain trying to think of someone who successfully changed positions on the NFL level and was really successful afterward. Certainly not on offense: I guess there are people who have shifted from linebacker to safety or something like that. But this whole "Tebow should be a halfback!" thing makes no sense.


Switching from CB to safety is almost routine. It's a way for very-good-to-HOF, but aging CBs to extend their careers. DE to LB or vice versa has become even more common, as teams switch back and forth from 3-4 to 4-3 base defenses. 40 years ago, it was SOP to turn black option QBs coming out of college into WRs or DBs, and sometimes it worked.
 
2013-03-02 01:24:52 PM
Seriously? Is the entire NFL just farking with him for laughs?
 
2013-03-02 01:28:31 PM
Just go play for that team that has your rights in Canada, Tim. You can be the next Flutie.
 
2013-03-02 01:32:51 PM
Just as long as Tebow doesn't end up in Arizona.
 
2013-03-02 01:33:53 PM

johnny_vegas: Lee "Hacksaw" Hamilton from AM 1090 sports radio in San Diego has been advocating this hard for the Chargers for a couple months...though more from a "utility" player that can handle several different positions including 3rd string or emergency quarterback.  I guess as the 53rd guy on the roster maybe.....but I don't see him becoming a solid position player and the NFL is too specialized for most teams to probably be able to afford him.


I think we've all more than learned by now that you do not get to sign Tim Tebow as a backup player. You sign him, you start him, or you are going to have Sportscenter jumping down your shiat every single day until you do. And if you never do, they're going to start calling for the coach to be fired.

You want the Tebow show to go away? It's very simple: Start him, somewhere, anywhere, and wait for him to suck long enough that people get bored with him. If he wins for you, outstanding. You are not going to get anywhere talking about Canada and backups and halfbacks. You're only going to get somewhere by playing him, as a quarterback, until his supporters go away. Like it or not, the guy has an overtime playoff win on his resume in his one season starting. He throws like a pregnant cow, but if the pregnant cow wins, people are going to want to send in the pregnant cow.
 
2013-03-02 01:34:53 PM

MmmmBacon: That said, Tebow would be wasted in KC, holding a clipboard and watching any chance to really play go out the window


Are you kidding?The Chefs haven't won a playoff game since 1993. If Tebow gave KC a playoff victory , especially over Denver, they'd elect him Pope!
 
2013-03-02 01:40:12 PM
As a Broncos fan, I applaud this move.

/thx for the memories, Timmy, but it's time to go to divinity school
 
2013-03-02 02:01:50 PM

AliceBToklasLives: As a Broncos fan, I applaud this move.

/thx for the memories, Timmy, but it's time to go to divinity school


You know he will. He's already on the speaking circuit.

Let's put it this way: either start him until he sucks enough for people to sour on him, or the guy's going to end up running for office in a decade or so.
 
2013-03-02 02:11:46 PM
Great Googly Moogly.
 
2013-03-02 02:15:31 PM

Mentat: Please no.  The baggage Tebow comes with far outweighs any benefit.  What's more likely to happen is that the Teboners will start screaming for him to start, creating a qb controversy that destroys Smith's confidence just like it did Mark Sanchez.  Tebow himself won't say anything, but he's more than happen to let his moron brigade cause trouble.  It's just not worth it.  Smith needs to know that he's the guy.


The Chiefs are perfectly capable of destroying a quarterback's confidence without Tim Tebow around. By the Ravens game, Cassel looked like the last thing he wanted to do was take a snap in the NFL. He'd be walking up to the line, and you could tell he was thinking, "First, I'm going to get clobbered by some 350 meathead, and then everyone is going to boo me. I should've been a CPA."
In fact, Tim Tebow may be the only quarterback we cannot destroy, because he's not really a quarterback. Maybe the Kansas City Curse will not work on him. But take that as wishful thinking, the only kind of thinking Chiefs fans are left with.
 
2013-03-02 02:27:02 PM
Just when I was feeling down about the Raiders picking Sharrif Floyd, Geno Smith or a guy with a fairly serious heart condition, the Chiefs go and make me feel so much better.
 
2013-03-02 02:45:12 PM

Gosling: or the guy's going to end up running for office


Yeah, that must be avoided at all costs.  I'd rather he'd play his little game.
 
2013-03-02 02:58:13 PM
Tebow is not a hard worker. He shows that by not improving.
 
2013-03-02 03:19:25 PM
I can't believe the Chiefs never gave Stanzi a real shot last year.  They had nothing to lose, and Stanzi did a damn fine job at Iowa overall.
 
2013-03-02 03:28:27 PM

JohnHall: KC shouldn't trade for Tebow because he's terrible, not because of his fans


KC shouldn't trade for Tebow because he's terrible AND because of his fans AND because a certain proportion of the Chiefs fanbase is going to be looking for an excuse to go after Smith anyway so the organization shouldn't make it any easier for them.
 
2013-03-02 03:39:34 PM
Is it Andy Reid's job to carry Tim Tebow around the NFL? I say let Josh McDaniels run the Tebow NFL adoption program, and send Tebow to kneel behind Tom Brady.
 
2013-03-02 03:39:41 PM
Tebow throws like a girl throws. I think it's consistent with the rest of his mannerisms. NTTAWWT.
 
2013-03-02 03:46:33 PM
The only reason he isn't playing for the Jags is because their owner doesn't want the team to start selling tickets.
 
2013-03-02 03:58:44 PM

jake_lex: kronicfeld: MmmmBacon: If KC trades for his rights, Tebow should retire. He will never get a real shot at playing in the NFL as a QB, that ship sailed when he was traded out of Denver. Tim should switch to Fullback, where he has a good chance to get playing time in the NFL, and could be damn good. The guy has talent, he understands the game, and no one questions his excellent leadership qualities. Tebow is a position switch away from perhaps developing into one hell of an NFL player, maybe even a Hall of Famer. Seriously, he could be that good.

... Just not at quarterback. Fullback, maybe Tight End, that's where he needs to be playing this year.

It is and has been trendy ti say that he would great at some other position. But wis there evidence that he would do any better at any other position? No evidence that he has particularly good hands or blocking skills. As a TE or a fullback, he's just another position player with a defensive player specifically assigned to him. At QB that is not always the case; defensive schemes don't and can't spy the QB every play, meaning he has opportunities where he is unaccounted for as a runner.



I'm really racking my brain trying to think of someone who successfully changed positions on the NFL level and was really successful afterward. Certainly not on offense: I guess there are people who have shifted from linebacker to safety or something like that. But this whole "Tebow should be a halfback!" thing makes no sense.


We have one example for the exact change proposed for Tebow. Michael Robinson went from successful Penn State QB to Pro Bowl fullback.
 
2013-03-02 04:01:50 PM
Are you farking kidding me???
 
2013-03-02 04:02:00 PM
Far as I can tell from this article/column/whatever-it-is, there is absolutely no hint the Chiefs are actually considering this. It's just this writer tossing around his idea (I'd never heard of this website until today)
 
2013-03-02 04:04:10 PM
Exactly what Smith needs...
 
2013-03-02 04:06:44 PM

nein: We have one example for the exact change proposed for Tebow. Michael Robinson went from successful Penn State QB to Pro Bowl fullback.


Eric Crouch went from QB to WR to out of football in a heartbeat.
 
2013-03-02 05:29:53 PM
Hey! Kansas City!
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2013-03-02 06:47:45 PM

jj325: I can't believe the Chiefs never gave Stanzi a real shot last year.  They had nothing to lose, and Stanzi did a damn fine job at Iowa overall.


I watched him in practice a few times when they were open to the public, and he somehow looked worse than he did at Iowa. Trust me, for as bad as Cassel and Quinn were last year, you didn't want to see Stanzi out there.
 
2013-03-02 07:45:54 PM
jake_lex:

I'm really racking my brain trying to think of someone who successfully changed positions on the NFL level and was really successful afterward. Certainly not on offense: I guess there are people who have shifted from linebacker to safety or something like that. But this whole "Tebow should be a halfback!" thing makes no sense.

Does Cordell Stewart count?
 
2013-03-02 07:52:51 PM

Incorrigible Astronaut: jj325: I can't believe the Chiefs never gave Stanzi a real shot last year.  They had nothing to lose, and Stanzi did a damn fine job at Iowa overall.

I watched him in practice a few times when they were open to the public, and he somehow looked worse than he did at Iowa. Trust me, for as bad as Cassel and Quinn were last year, you didn't want to see Stanzi out there.


The few times I saw Stanzi playing for Iowa, I thought he looked like a pile of crap. I couldn't figure out where all the enthusiasm for the kid was coming from. Lo and behold, he hits the NFL, and can't beat out a couple of 3rd-rate QBs.
 
2013-03-02 07:56:41 PM

Lost Thought 00: The only reason he isn't playing for the Jags is because their owner doesn't want the team to start selling tickets.


At this point, even Blaine Gabbart is a better qb than Tebow.
 
2013-03-02 08:46:31 PM

MmmmBacon: If he isn't a starter in some capacity this year, and I believe it will have to be at a different position than QB, then Tebow won't ever be a starter in the NFL. He might as well pack his bags and move to Canada, I'm sure someone in the CFL would appreciate his talents.

he need
Canadian football?  Where he would only get 3 downs and have to pass more because you need more yards per play and he'd have to have a much higher success rate because the margin for error is smaller (a failed play would be a much bigger deal)?  Yeah, that would suit his talents perfectly.
 
2013-03-02 08:47:56 PM
Well, I certainly hope someone picks up that phone.

... because I F**KING CALLED IT!!! XD

\ Wizard hat on stand-by.
 
2013-03-02 09:05:47 PM

Captain Steroid: Well, I certainly hope someone picks up that phone.

... because I F**KING CALLED IT!!! XD

\ Wizard hat on stand-by.


Your Donkeys are more than welcome to snatch him back up before he gets here.
 
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