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(WBIR Knoxville)   Tennessee approves "guns in trunks" law after legislators felt that the current "guns in saddles and stagecoaches" law was outdated   (wbir.com) divider line 85
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2013-03-02 07:53:41 AM  
Cute name but other than that, what does it have to do with trunks?

Illinois has a guns in trunk law:  firearms unloaded and cased; store ammunition in a separate, closed container; transport in an inaccessible location within the vehicle.  That means the trunk if you have one.

We could say Illinois has concealed carry.
 
2013-03-02 08:00:50 AM  
Is that the law that orders filmmakers to stop ripping off the "inside the trunk POV" shot from Pulp Fiction?
 
2013-03-02 09:11:28 AM  
I'm waiting for the "guns in buns" law where everyone is allowed to walk around with a small (but effective) gun hidden between their butt cheeks.
 
2013-03-02 09:40:59 AM  

edmo: Cute name but other than that, what does it have to do with trunks?


If only there were an article you could have read to find out.
 
2013-03-02 09:49:21 AM  

edmo: Cute name but other than that, what does it have to do with trunks?


You can keep a roscoe in the turtle now.
 
2013-03-02 09:49:57 AM  
Walker
I'm waiting for the "guns in buns" law where everyone is allowed to walk around with a small (but effective) gun hidden between their butt cheeks.


That would lead to too many suicides in the back of cop cars.
 
2013-03-02 09:50:22 AM  

edmo: Cute name but other than that, what does it have to do with trunks?

Illinois has a guns in trunk law:  firearms unloaded and cased; store ammunition in a separate, closed container; transport in an inaccessible location within the vehicle.  That means the trunk if you have one.

We could say Illinois has concealed carry.


Not really. I could say bats fly out of my ass but that doesn't make it true.
 
2013-03-02 09:51:07 AM  
Wait before how did you transport guns? You have to walk them everywhere?
 
2013-03-02 09:51:27 AM  

Walker: I'm waiting for the "guns in buns" law where everyone is allowed to walk around with a small (but effective) gun hidden between their butt cheeks.


Damn you! i came here to make a joke like that.
/BTW a fat person can hide a AK-47 in their butt folds
 
gja [TotalFark]
2013-03-02 09:52:49 AM  
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2013-03-02 09:55:24 AM  
Are we arming the elephants?
 
2013-03-02 09:55:54 AM  

edmo: Cute name but other than that, what does it have to do with trunks?

Illinois has a guns in trunk law:  firearms unloaded and cased; store ammunition in a separate, closed container; transport in an inaccessible location within the vehicle.  That means the trunk if you have one.

We could say Illinois has concealed carry.


I thought that was this article was going to be about e.g clip in glove compartment and gun in trunk
/I might be a minority minority here that thinks open carry is better
 
2013-03-02 09:57:14 AM  
I much prefer the "guns in church" law:
www.personaldefenseworld.com
"umm,,good news y'all, I just heard from Jesus, and you are all SAVED!"
 
2013-03-02 09:57:44 AM  

Adolf Oliver Nipples: edmo: Cute name but other than that, what does it have to do with trunks?

If only there were an article you could have read to find out.


Well, gee I did just that and other than "guns-in-trunks" being in the text four times, there's still no discussion of what part trunks play in this. Perhaps you have special reading powers the rest of us don't?
 
2013-03-02 09:58:13 AM  
Meh, just means if you forget and leave a shotgun in your trunk and go to pick up your kids from school; you won't get in trouble.
 
2013-03-02 09:58:17 AM  
Article comes with a helpful picture of what a "gun" may look like for everyone who still lives with Nanny.
 
2013-03-02 09:59:00 AM  
The latest fun thing that people are pushing in Tennessee is allowing EMTs, Firefighters, and Paramedics to carry pistols and concealed firearms in the line of conducting their duties.

You know. Acting as agents of the Government. Without Law Enforcement training. Or the  "protections" typically associated with Law Enforcement commissions.

This can only end well.

Thisbymaster: Wait before how did you transport guns? You have to walk them everywhere?


Before the law was passed, an employer could arbitrarily terminate you if they found out you had a gun on their premises, regardless if it was loaded or stored safely in a locked vehicle. I really don't see a problem with it.
 
2013-03-02 09:59:47 AM  
So, how did you transportthem before?Say, you were heading to the range.
 
2013-03-02 10:00:22 AM  
This steps on private property rights. You have the right to prohibit guns on your own property. By a variety of regulations, business owners no longer own their own property.
 
2013-03-02 10:00:55 AM  

edmo: Well, gee I did just that and other than "guns-in-trunks" being in the text four times, there's still no discussion of what part trunks play in this. Perhaps you have special reading powers the rest of us don't?


Before the law was passed, any Tennessee employer could fire an employee if they found out they kept a firearm, legally, secured in a vehicle on their premises, regardless if it met the criteria of a "Gun Free Zone" according to federal law.
 
2013-03-02 10:01:31 AM  
drjekel_mrhyde:

I thought that was this article was going to be about e.g clip in glove compartment and gun in trunk
/I might be a minority minority here that thinks open carry is better


Magazine
 
2013-03-02 10:01:40 AM  
What's their stance on radioactive aliens in the trunk?

dvdmedia.ign.com
 
2013-03-02 10:01:44 AM  

Mugato: Is that the law that orders filmmakers to stop ripping off the "inside the trunk POV" shot from Pulp Fiction Uncle Buck?


It was also in Uncle Buck. Five years before the movie you cited.
 
2013-03-02 10:02:16 AM  

hardinparamedic: The latest fun thing that people are pushing in Tennessee is allowing EMTs, Firefighters, and Paramedics to carry pistols and concealed firearms in the line of conducting their duties.

You know. Acting as agents of the Government. Without Law Enforcement training. Or the  "protections" typically associated with Law Enforcement commissions.

This can only end well.

Thisbymaster: Wait before how did you transport guns? You have to walk them everywhere?

Before the law was passed, an employer could arbitrarily terminate you if they found out you had a gun on their premises, regardless if it was loaded or stored safely in a locked vehicle. I really don't see a problem with it.


They are being trained by Homeland Security as well. If you see something, say something.
 
2013-03-02 10:03:00 AM  

badhatharry: This steps on private property rights. You have the right to prohibit guns on your own property. By a variety of regulations, business owners no longer own their own property.


Do I not have private property rights of of own in my vehicle?
 
2013-03-02 10:06:10 AM  

badhatharry: They are being trained by Homeland Security as well. If you see something, say something.


OH NO.

That's the beauty of it.

They want Paramedics to be able to be armed using the CCW standards Tennessee has. 8 hours of class and 50 rounds on range. There's no "training" involved in it!

Although, you do have a point, but I'd also point out that Homeland Security absorbing FEMA and the USFA was the best thing to happen to Emergency Services in the United States since the 1970s. Despite the abuse of grant money by some departments, they're the only reason that many rural volunteer departments have equipment that was manufactured in the last decade.
 
2013-03-02 10:08:23 AM  

drjekel_mrhyde: /I might be a minority minority here that thinks open carry is better


I live in California where a open carry is against the law, but you can get a CCW. I have a CCW and I'd prefer open carry be permitted here for people who can pass the HSC test (handgun safety certificate - you need one to legally have a handgun) but NOT pass the CCW test. I want to know which dumbfarks patriots exercising their second amendment rights to keep an eye on. The HSC is so incredibly easy if someone fails that, they should not be allowed any firearms, period.

tinyarena: I much prefer the "guns in church" law:
[www.personaldefenseworld.com image 400x220]
"umm,,good news y'all, I just heard from Jesus, and you are all SAVED!"


"and I'm forgiven!"
*BLAM!*
 
2013-03-02 10:08:50 AM  

Thisbymaster: Wait before how did you transport guns? You have to walk them everywhere?


Its more a law designed to prevent people from declaring authority over what is inside your car on their property. Basically a protection of individual property rights to your vehicle. In essence it is saying "You are allowed to prevent vehicles from entering your property, but you cannot demand that those vehicles not contain firearms, provided that the vehicle is locked.

Personally I wish the law covered everything, basically extend it to say your vehicle is a little bubble of your home, if its legal to put in a vehicle no one should be able to say you can't do that even if it is their parking lot. Defining a line between the two property rights.

That still allows for protections from someone having a car full of propane (illegal beyond a certain amount) but also prevents busybody rich assholes from imposing their morality on you just because they own all the grocery stores in the area and decided to ban alcohol even in car trunks.
 
2013-03-02 10:10:26 AM  

Real Women Drink Akvavit: I live in California where a open carry is against the law, but you can get a CCW. I have a CCW and I'd prefer open carry be permitted here for people who can pass the HSC test (handgun safety certificate - you need one to legally have a handgun) but NOT pass the CCW test. I want to know which dumbfarks patriots exercising their second amendment rights to keep an eye on. The HSC is so incredibly easy if someone fails that, they should not be allowed any firearms, period.


Um, I've seen questions from the CCW test. If you CAN'T pass it, you have no business handling a hangun around anyone and outside of an armored room without being an organ donor.
 
2013-03-02 10:10:33 AM  

badhatharry: This steps on private property rights. You have the right to prohibit guns on your own property. By a variety of regulations, business owners no longer own their own property.


It does, but it also extends private property rights at the same time. Net loss of property rights is zero.
 
2013-03-02 10:12:15 AM  

Pelvic Splanchnic Ganglion: drjekel_mrhyde:

I thought that was this article was going to be about e.g clip in glove compartment and gun in trunk
/I might be a minority minority here that thinks open carry is better

Magazine


Okay gunnazi
 
2013-03-02 10:12:39 AM  

Mugato: Is that the law that orders filmmakers to stop ripping off the "inside the trunk POV" shot from Pulp Fiction?


I'm confused. Isn't that Reservoir Dogs?
 
2013-03-02 10:14:09 AM  
i'm glad i'm not a Christian
or i'd need a gun or some garbage
 
2013-03-02 10:20:34 AM  

Mugato: Is that the law that orders filmmakers to stop ripping off the "inside the trunk POV" shot from Pulp Fiction?


There's a similar scene in  Reservoir Dogs. Maybe  Jackie Browntoo. Heck, maybe in all QT movies, I dunno.
 
2013-03-02 10:20:35 AM  

Pelvic Splanchnic Ganglion: badhatharry: This steps on private property rights. You have the right to prohibit guns on your own property. By a variety of regulations, business owners no longer own their own property.

Do I not have private property rights of of own in my vehicle?


Sure, in most states it is an extension of your home. The difference with your car is that you have to respect other property owners when you drive on their property.
 
2013-03-02 10:21:54 AM  

John Buck 41: Mugato: Is that the law that orders filmmakers to stop ripping off the "inside the trunk POV" shot from Pulp Fiction?

There's a similar scene in  Reservoir Dogs. Maybe  Jackie Browntoo. Heck, maybe in all QT movies, I dunno.


Kinda like there's plenty of foot shots in those movies too. Quinty has a foot fetish.
 
2013-03-02 10:22:10 AM  
I see.  So a Constitutional Amendment, meant to protect citizens from intrusions by the government, is now being used to trump private property rights and contracts between private citizens.
Only in the modern pants-on-head crazy GOP I guess.

What has happened to my former party??
 
2013-03-02 10:28:45 AM  
junk in the trunk law

/violent criminals don't care
 
2013-03-02 10:28:49 AM  

Pelvic Splanchnic Ganglion: badhatharry: This steps on private property rights. You have the right to prohibit guns on your own property. By a variety of regulations, business owners no longer own their own property.

Do I not have private property rights of of own in my vehicle?


Haha you're funny. You realize that in some places in America (usually places in nutty California) it's illegal to smoke in your own car or even your own home.
 
2013-03-02 10:29:48 AM  

Igor Jakovsky: So, how did you transportthem before?Say, you were heading to the range.


They had to be displayed in the rear window.
 
2013-03-02 10:29:54 AM  

Walker: Pelvic Splanchnic Ganglion: badhatharry: This steps on private property rights. You have the right to prohibit guns on your own property. By a variety of regulations, business owners no longer own their own property.

Do I not have private property rights of of own in my vehicle?

Haha you're funny. You realize that in some places in America (usually places in nutty California) it's illegal to smoke in your own car or even your own home.


why would you want to.  when you can eat marijuana jolly ranchers
 
2013-03-02 10:44:28 AM  

Jon iz teh kewl: Walker: Pelvic Splanchnic Ganglion: badhatharry: This steps on private property rights. You have the right to prohibit guns on your own property. By a variety of regulations, business owners no longer own their own property.

Do I not have private property rights of of own in my vehicle?

Haha you're funny. You realize that in some places in America (usually places in nutty California) it's illegal to smoke in your own car or even your own home.

why would you want to.  when you can eat marijuana jolly ranchers


yes, because regular people want to be high all farking day.  smoking wears off after a normal time, eating is a dang commitment.
 
2013-03-02 11:03:32 AM  
It was originally based on a British law, but guns in the boot was too confusing.
 
2013-03-02 11:03:59 AM  
So I suppose this is will assist in the war against bathroom use scofflaws. (pops)

i.imgur.com
 
2013-03-02 11:06:15 AM  
I buried a jar in Tennessee.
 
2013-03-02 11:17:08 AM  
Neither property owners nor employers can prevent people/employees from storing guns in cars on the property/workplace.

Guns are more important than private property rights now. I, for one, welcome our new warmonger overlords.
 
2013-03-02 11:29:47 AM  
Ad-click revenues must be down - Drew's back to stroking the "gun" pud again.
i18.photobucket.com
 
2013-03-02 11:33:49 AM  
The measure removes criminal penalties for bringing a gun onto private property, but it is unclear whether businesses could continue to set policies banning firearms.

The bill's House sponsor, state Rep. Jeremy Faison, R-Cosby, said nothing in the measure prevents business owners from firing employees who bring guns to work. But Ramsey, the measure's sponsor in the Senate, has cited other Tennessee laws that suggest the opposite.

It also is unclear whether schools and universities could ban firearms.


Sounds like a subsidy for TN lawyers.
 
2013-03-02 11:35:23 AM  

Macinfarker: Neither property owners nor employers can prevent people/employees from storing guns in cars on the property/workplace.

Guns are more important than private property rights now. I, for one, welcome our new warmonger overlords.


Except that cars are considered the private property of their respective lease/lein holders or owners, not dominion of the people who's property they're on.

That whole 4th Amendment thing, you know.
 
2013-03-02 11:39:50 AM  
So people with carry permits can keep their handguns locked up in the car while they go into work or the mall or to eat. No big deal.

Once they have the ability to search my car they can start discussing what I can and cannot keep inside it.
 
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