weave: Mason officials declined to discuss the specifics of Molly's case, citing privacy laws, but they urged the family to consider an internal appeal. Dantzler said about 1,500 applicants appeal their denial of in-state eligibility every year, and about half win."We just don't have that much time and effort to put into that," Hakopian said. OK, I stopped right there. You don't have time for a routine appeal but you have time to whore it up to the media?
cman: With the exception of the Bush tax cuts expiring being made a permanent feature of our tax code with only a minor 5% increase in Capital Gains
filter: I hate that crap. My parents never paid a cent for my education, yet their income determined my financial aid?!?
Fizpez: weave: Mason officials declined to discuss the specifics of Molly's case, citing privacy laws, but they urged the family to consider an internal appeal. Dantzler said about 1,500 applicants appeal their denial of in-state eligibility every year, and about half win."We just don't have that much time and effort to put into that," Hakopian said. OK, I stopped right there. You don't have time for a routine appeal but you have time to whore it up to the media?Yep, that's where I slammed on the mental brakes as well - outrage fled (well more like mild concern but never miss a chance for hyperbole) and I stopped caring. There's an appeal process and you have about a 50% blind chance of winning even before the appeals board find out your mother was murdered. And as sad as that sounds there's probably scholarships she qualifies for BECAUSE her mother was killed.
Greek: liam76: Mere presence? No. Having a drivers license, Yes.Greek: Having a job is not legally sufficient for financial independence with regards to the university system.This. Made it a bit tricky for me to pay for college by myself, since my parents had plenty of money but told me to pound sand when I asked for help.These rules exist for a reason- there's plenty of examples where people who really don't have any kind of excuse try to get tuition reduced/ get need- based grants and scholarships/ all kinds of favorable financial aid- but the lawmakers spent so much time trying to make sure there were no loopholes that they didn't make any consideration for exceptions. There are some "parents" out there who honestly believe that once their kids hit age 18, that they should no longer provide for them or help them in any way whatsoever. You know, just because the law absolves responsibility at that age for many things, doesn't mean you're morally absolved of responsibility. What magical thing happens on ones 18th birthday that changes them overnight from a helpless infant to a fully- prepared, fully independent adult? Everyone's circumstances are different, and the transition to "responsible adult" is a gradual one that starts BEFORE age 18, and often takes a few years AFTER to be complete. Hell, I'm a married man in my 30s. My mother has passed away. I'm totally independent of my dad now, and, in fact, I help take care of things that he can't deal with, like his English isn't that great- never has been- and now that mom's gone, I help him navigate official paperwork and such. I also help him maintain his house as he gets too old to physically do things. But I also know that if my whole world suddenly came crashing down, I could move back home if I had to to get back on my feet. And that's the way things should be. But back to my original point- things AREN'T always that way, but the laws regarding financial aid and such assume they are, and don't make exceptions for when they aren't.
meyerkev: So my sister is going to the University of Michigan, and will be in a similar boat (Not in the same way. Mom got married to a doctor near Cleveland last weekend and moved), so we asked about this prior.At U of M, in-state status stays grandfathered. Once you get in-state status, you keep in-state status.
buzzcut73: meyerkev: So my sister is going to the University of Michigan, and will be in a similar boat (Not in the same way. Mom got married to a doctor near Cleveland last weekend and moved), so we asked about this prior.At U of M, in-state status stays grandfathered. Once you get in-state status, you keep in-state status.as long as you don't join the Navy
Saners: I never understood the logic behind in-state vs out-of-state tuition. It seems to be supported for two reasons:1) State taxes help fund schools so students (or parents if under the age of 24) who have been paying should get a break. Except most of the time you can get around this by living in the state for a year prior. So if you're over 24 a years worth of taxes is considered enough for you to get the break but if you are under 24 screw you your money isn't good enough and your parents are either rich or you have some sweet scholarships so pay up. It also ignores internships creating a bigger selection pool for local companies.2) It encourages students to stay in their home location, under the guise of "well the state paid for you for the last 18 years of your life to get educated, so stay here and pay back into the system" yet it discourages students from outside the state whose primary education was not paid by the state to come in and pay into the system. Unless your college is shiat and couldn't attract students worth a damn, this sounds counterproductive.
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