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2013-03-01 11:20:28 PM  
And what's so wrong with that, exactly?
 
2013-03-01 11:26:07 PM  
Are we surprised?  You take enough people out of Hockey Town, to set up shop in another state, they're going to want their hockey.  It worked for my folks in NC, since moving to the south, they have reminisced about hockey games.  The Hurricanes came along and now for the price of a pop and Koegel at the Joe, they get their ticket, pop and two hot dogs for the same price.  It means they only see their Wings a couple times a year, but the price makes it better.  Whereas I live in Flint and can only afford to see a Jr hockey league that is barely considered pro.  The team is so low budget, players can't afford to live on their own.  They stay with some of the fans.  Not kidding.

/I need to plan a trip to NC to match the Wings schedule
 
2013-03-01 11:47:30 PM  
Based on my experience having lived in Michigan, worked in the automotive industry, and traveled to the Nissan plan in Smyrna quite a few times, this article is 100% correct.

/My favorite was checking into a hotel downtown the morning after a Wings-Preds game and everyone else in the lobby was dressed in Wings gear and checking out.
//Now that I live in Chicago, Nashville is a popular sports tourism destination for Chicagoans too.  They drank the city dry of beer when the Bears played the Titans last season
//I'm told that slashies have to come in threes
 
2013-03-02 12:15:19 AM  
You know, I never thought about this, and I have family that works at that plant.
 
2013-03-02 12:19:06 AM  
Why the fark is there a random section about the Battle of Franklin in there?
 
2013-03-02 12:25:05 AM  
But but but...damn Southerners don't deserve hockey!!!!!!

/outrage
 
2013-03-02 01:13:05 AM  
They should tell some people from Tennessee.
 
2013-03-02 01:35:50 AM  
I don't know why the Simmon's hate on fark.  Grantland really was a great idea and gives stories like this one a great avenue to reach readers that I would have never found otherwise....
 
2013-03-02 01:46:44 AM  

lack of warmth: Whereas I live in Flint and can only afford to see a Jr hockey league that is barely considered pro.  The team is so low budget, players can't afford to live on their own.  They stay with some of the fans.  Not kidding.


That's what all junior hockey is.

/not that that league isn't riddled with problems
 
2013-03-02 02:12:15 AM  
What surprises me is that despite all the Michigan transplants I know here in Oregon, hockey isn't bigger here.

AlLthough I do suppose it is growing.
 
2013-03-02 02:23:02 AM  

Argyle82: I don't know why the Simmon's hate on fark.  Grantland really was a great idea and gives stories like this one a great avenue to reach readers that I would have never found otherwise....


What this really serves as a reminder of is the fact that its really the working/middle class types that make sports teams happen. Most other sports have kind of become immaculate palaces for the rich. Keeping the everyday fan attached needs to be a priority of any sports team.
 
2013-03-02 02:27:53 AM  

meat0918: What surprises me is that despite all the Michigan transplants I know here in Oregon, hockey isn't bigger here.

AlLthough I do suppose it is growing.


Hey, aren't you the guy I talked to about Eugene the other day? Funny, we're moving from Michigan (if we do), no connection to the automotive industry. My kids will be second year Squirts and a Bantam.

I really enjoyed this article, thanks subby. I didn't know about the UW/GM/TN thing, it all makes sense.
 
2013-03-02 03:16:01 AM  
Hockey in Nashville still has a long way to go. However, the previous owner of the NHL Predators (who now is primary owner of the Minnesota Wild) and the current ownership have done a good job of fielding competitive teams year in and year out. I'm so glad they've been able to get past the Jim Balsillie debacle where he tried to buy the team outright (and failed) to move the team to Hamilton, Ontario, then became a significant investor in the group that was able to buy the team, only to declare bankruptcy soon afterwards and forced to sell his portion. Probably will never be a top tier franchise like the Red Wings and Blackhawks, but at least they're not a bottom feeder team like the Coyotes and Panthers are.
 
2013-03-02 03:27:20 AM  
TFA:  A hockey mom in Nashville, Tennessee, is surprised to hear that Buffalo, New York, has a professional hockey team.

I'm supposed to take them seriously as hockey fans when they've never heard about a team that's been around since 1970?  Really?  They sound like the same uneducated hicks that I've come to expect out of Tennessee, only they're pretending to care about something else this time.
 
2013-03-02 06:47:11 AM  

davidphogan: TFA:  A hockey mom in Nashville, Tennessee, is surprised to hear that Buffalo, New York, has a professional hockey team.

I'm supposed to take them seriously as hockey fans when they've never heard about a team that's been around since 1970?  Really?  They sound like the same uneducated hicks that I've come to expect out of Tennessee, only they're pretending to care about something else this time.


to be fair, most of the world is probably surprised Buffalo has professional sports teams
 
2013-03-02 07:21:41 AM  

davidphogan: TFA:  A hockey mom in Nashville, Tennessee, is surprised to hear that Buffalo, New York, has a professional hockey team.

I'm supposed to take them seriously as hockey fans when they've never heard about a team that's been around since 1970?  Really?  They sound like the same uneducated hicks that I've come to expect out of Tennessee, only they're pretending to care about something else this time.


Considering how the Sabers have done the past few years, I forget they exist too sometimes.
 
2013-03-02 09:23:57 AM  

lack of warmth: Are we surprised?  You take enough people out of Hockey Town, to set up shop in another state, they're going to want their hockey.  It worked for my folks in NC, since moving to the south, they have reminisced about hockey games.  The Hurricanes came along and now for the price of a pop and Koegel at the Joe, they get their ticket, pop and two hot dogs for the same price.  It means they only see their Wings a couple times a year, but the price makes it better.  Whereas I live in Flint and can only afford to see a Jr hockey league that is barely considered pro.  The team is so low budget, players can't afford to live on their own.  They stay with some of the fans.  Not kidding.

/I need to plan a trip to NC to match the Wings schedule


It's not just the emigres, though; the 'Canes managed to lure in a good chunk of the locals as well.  Of course, we've always had a couple of big-name stars to hold people's attention.  And the Stanley Cup didn't hurt at all.

/Canes always win the Cup after a lockout!
 
2013-03-02 10:40:20 AM  

Argyle82: I don't know why the Simmon's hate on fark.  Grantland really was a great idea and gives stories like this one a great avenue to reach readers that I would have never found otherwise....


The article seems to think.more of itself than it should, nobody ever attributed hockey with the civil war, that shiat meant nothing to us born now. The worst part is they didn't give jobs to locals for the plant and transplanted those with hockey roots into the area.
That's hardly turning Tennessee into a hockey state, especially when they can't even name all the teams according to their logos. You can bet your ass they could name all the sec teams by their logo.
If hockey was played during football games the arena would be half filled at best.
 
2013-03-02 11:24:07 AM  
That article was really easy to skim.
 
2013-03-02 11:28:51 AM  

drunk_bouncnbaloruber: lack of warmth: Whereas I live in Flint and can only afford to see a Jr hockey league that is barely considered pro.  The team is so low budget, players can't afford to live on their own.  They stay with some of the fans.  Not kidding.

That's what all junior hockey is.

/not that that league isn't riddled with problems


I'm originally, from manitoba  canada. Met a gorgeous lady in michigan and am hoping to move her asap and marry her. I love my junior hockey. Didn't think I would get my hockey fix (michigan is considered a hockey state, but still nothing compared to even manitoba.) I've become a big fan of the USHL and the Muskegon Lumberjacks. Good hockey, even if there isn't much hockey. I doubt Muskegon will have their team long, though, the rink never seems to be more than a quarter full when I'm there.

/csb
 
2013-03-02 11:33:55 AM  

Argyle82: I don't know why the Simmon's hate on fark.  Grantland really was a great idea and gives stories like this one a great avenue to reach readers that I would have never found otherwise....


Grantland's a return to long-form journalism; that's a good thing in this world of people creating a scandal out of a single tweet.
 
2013-03-02 12:12:26 PM  
How General Motors and the UAW turned Tennessee Greater Nashville  into a hockey state


There is no evidence of it here in Chattanooga.
 
2013-03-02 01:39:46 PM  

UncleStumpy: drunk_bouncnbaloruber: lack of warmth: Whereas I live in Flint and can only afford to see a Jr hockey league that is barely considered pro.  The team is so low budget, players can't afford to live on their own.  They stay with some of the fans.  Not kidding.

That's what all junior hockey is.

/not that that league isn't riddled with problems

I'm originally, from manitoba  canada. Met a gorgeous lady in michigan and am hoping to move her asap and marry her. I love my junior hockey. Didn't think I would get my hockey fix (michigan is considered a hockey state, but still nothing compared to even manitoba.) I've become a big fan of the USHL and the Muskegon Lumberjacks. Good hockey, even if there isn't much hockey. I doubt Muskegon will have their team long, though, the rink never seems to be more than a quarter full when I'm there.

/csb


Jets come back and you leave? What were you thinking?!
 
2013-03-02 02:37:05 PM  

Kyle Butler: How General Motors and the UAW turned Tennessee Greater Nashville  into a hockey state


There is no evidence of it here in Chattanooga.


Maybe if the UAW gets organizes the VW plant there it will happen.
 
2013-03-02 03:37:38 PM  
Still trying to figure out where the fans learned the chants. Every time an opposing goalie is bad they do the typical derisive repeating of the name three times, but then they add a you suck at the end. Apparently they don't get that the you suck is implied. I want to yell at them "That's the Joke."
 
2013-03-02 05:40:53 PM  

lack of warmth: Whereas I live in Flint and can only afford to see a Jr hockey league that is barely considered pro.  The team is so low budget, players can't afford to live on their own.  They stay with some of the fans.  Not kidding.


That's standard operating procedure of pretty much all of Junior hockey leagues.

Billet
 
2013-03-02 07:33:35 PM  

fusion7: Still trying to figure out where the fans learned the chants. Every time an opposing goalie is bad they do the typical derisive repeating of the name three times, but then they add a you suck at the end. Apparently they don't get that the you suck is implied. I want to yell at them "That's the Joke."


I have always thought the chants sounded a lot like ones you would hear at Michigan hockey games. I  figured there are a lot of people down here that went to U of M or a similar school and applied that to the Predators games.
 
2013-03-03 02:00:47 AM  

Man in the BoX: fusion7: Still trying to figure out where the fans learned the chants. Every time an opposing goalie is bad they do the typical derisive repeating of the name three times, but then they add a you suck at the end. Apparently they don't get that the you suck is implied. I want to yell at them "That's the Joke."

I have always thought the chants sounded a lot like ones you would hear at Michigan hockey games. I  figured there are a lot of people down here that went to U of M or a similar school and applied that to the Predators games.


Also, the "You suck" addendum has been fairly common with ECHL and IHL franchises--I actually suspect this may be a stigmata from those days :D

/remembers the "You Suck" variant back when Louisville had hockey...usually aimed at one particular referee by the name of Henry, as I recall
//of course, we pretty much had the same shiat happen as the Thrashers did in that the team was solely being used as a tax shelter...closest hockey now is in Lexington or Cincy for minor leagues, and in Nashville for pro
 
2013-03-03 03:53:50 AM  

fusion7: Still trying to figure out where the fans learned the chants. Every time an opposing goalie is bad they do the typical derisive repeating of the name three times, but then they add a you suck at the end. Apparently they don't get that the you suck is implied. I want to yell at them "That's the Joke."


Moronic Nashville fans will taunt the opposing goalie even if the Preds are losing. Nashville, yernotdoinitrite.
 
2013-03-04 12:55:11 PM  
This is part of the reason why I don't understand all the hatred for expansion in the NHL. Before a team can be considered viable or not viable, you have to be prepared to last for up to 30 years with less than full capacity.  What makes people come to sporting events is their attachment to it.  If you've never played hockey, and your brother/friends/kids never got into it, you are not going to have any reason to understand it or watch it.
In 30 years, the kids grew up watching hockey.  They don't care that it's a mostly Northern thing.  They just like the pace, the energy and the grace/violence that goes with it.  If they grew up watching it on TV, and there was a youth league, there will be a lot more interest in it when those kids are grown up.  They're going to spend the money to go to games.  They'll buy their kids equipment, ice time, etc...
It takes a full generation for a new (to the area) sport to catch on.
Just my opinion.  I just get sick of seeing comments about how certain teams should be folded because there isn't enough interest.
 
2013-03-04 12:56:32 PM  

Man in the BoX: fusion7: Still trying to figure out where the fans learned the chants. Every time an opposing goalie is bad they do the typical derisive repeating of the name three times, but then they add a you suck at the end. Apparently they don't get that the you suck is implied. I want to yell at them "That's the Joke."

I have always thought the chants sounded a lot like ones you would hear at Michigan hockey games. I  figured there are a lot of people down here that went to U of M or a similar school and applied that to the Predators games.


My favorite was always "Goalie ---> sieve".
 
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