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2013-03-02 12:46:36 AM
So Yes is the band on stage?


/theoretically obscure
 
2013-03-02 12:56:46 AM
I saw Glass Hammer at a ProgFest maybe 15 years ago.  Although plagued with numerous technical difficulties, they rocked.  Bought their CD and took it home, it sucked :(

Also heard this week Baja Prog is back on.  Too bad it's in Mexico, my neck likes my head where it is.
 
2013-03-02 01:17:02 AM
My point is simply this: they introduced a profound topic and barely scratched the surface! They told me nothing! How does the owner of a lonely heart compare to, say, the owner of a broken gas fireplace? Or, for that matter, to the owner of a perfectly functional cheese slicer! As the owner of a lonely heart , how do I stack up against the owner of a pencil?! I mean, come on, Yes!  What about the owner of a parcel of land in Montana versus the owner of a Piiiiieeee? How does the owner of a jaaarrrr stack up against the owner of a split-level?

/Goosio demands to know!!!

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2013-03-02 02:00:57 AM
My friend and I came up with a good Abbott and Costello routine involving Yes. He plays some prog. rock..

"Who is this? Is this Yes?"
"No."
"Yes?"
"No."
So it's not Yes."
"Yes."
"So it is Yes."
"No."
...repeat for four minutes...
 
2013-03-02 02:06:50 AM

SilentStrider: So Yes is the band on stage?


/theoretically obscure


Third Base!
 
2013-03-02 02:12:08 AM

SilentStrider: So Yes is the band on stage?


/theoretically obscure


No, Aunt Slappy. Yes is on later. This is Who.

...and The Band isn't even at this concert.
 
2013-03-02 02:14:29 AM
Damn it. Got it backwards. Yes isn't at the concert. The Band is performing later.
 
2013-03-02 02:46:06 AM

FirstNationalBastard: My point is simply this: they introduced a profound topic and barely scratched the surface! They told me nothing! How does the owner of a lonely heart compare to, say, the owner of a broken gas fireplace? Or, for that matter, to the owner of a perfectly functional cheese slicer! As the owner of a lonely heart , how do I stack up against the owner of a pencil?! I mean, come on, Yes!  What about the owner of a parcel of land in Montana versus the owner of a Piiiiieeee? How does the owner of a jaaarrrr stack up against the owner of a split-level?

/Goosio demands to know!!!


Came for this. .
 
2013-03-02 04:15:52 AM
Everybody knows that a broken heart is blind.
 
2013-03-02 04:17:54 AM
Actual Yes fans just shat a brick that subby quoted a Trevor Rabin song instead of a Yes song.

/Leave it
 
2013-03-02 06:49:38 AM
fellow i know that has attended more concerts than you would believe swears Yes is the best damn live show he's had the pleasure to be at.
 
2013-03-02 07:05:22 AM
For spiritual reasons, Davison was taking a vow of silence when it came time to interview him.

It's like, how much more prog rock could this be? and the answer is none. None more prog rock.
 
2013-03-02 07:32:21 AM
Well, I guess I should weigh in.  The Yes fanbase is far smaller than it has been in years, and is essentially broken up into two parts.  One half is still going to the shows and enjoying the lineup for what it is.  The other half is "No Jon, No Yes."

For myself, I give the band props for keeping the flame alive, even if it is probably just to pad their retirement portfolios.  But I haven't seen a show since the 35th Anniversary Tsongas Arena show that was filmed.  Mind you, I like Fly From Here a lot, and their last fill-in guy tried his best in live performances, but there is something missing.  For one thing, they play interminably slow, a trait they started to develop even while Anderson and Wakeman were still in the band.

By all mean, if you haven't seen them, go.  It's rare to see such accomplished musicianship in a rock band.  Just don't go expecting to see them at their peak.  Compare now with old YopuTube recordings and you will see what I mean.
 
2013-03-02 07:33:47 AM
BTW subby, nice job mixing in an ASIA reference as well.  +1 to you.
 
2013-03-02 07:50:05 AM
Put me in the "No Jon, no Yes" camp.Close2TheEdge is a Yes fan?My DREAM double bill would have been Yes and the Grateful Dead. That would have been quite interesting and strange. I actually saw a YouTube video of Jon playing with Bobby.
 
2013-03-02 07:50:45 AM
What happened to my spacing?!?!
 
2013-03-02 07:56:06 AM

FirstNationalBastard: /Goosio demands to know!!!


This...this is why you are favorited.
 
2013-03-02 08:11:54 AM

Ishkur: My friend and I came up with a good Abbott and Costello routine involving Yes. He plays some prog. rock..

"Who is this? Is this Yes?"
"No."
"Yes?"
"No."
So it's not Yes."
"Yes."
"So it is Yes."
"No."
...repeat for four minutes...


Who?
Guess Who?
Who?
Yes.
 
2013-03-02 08:23:27 AM
Who is on stage?
Yes.
Yes is on stage?
No.
Then Who is on stage?
Yes.
 
2013-03-02 08:38:12 AM

Close2TheEdge: Well, I guess I should weigh in.  The Yes fanbase is far smaller than it has been in years, and is essentially broken up into two parts.  One half is still going to the shows and enjoying the lineup for what it is.  The other half is "No Jon, No Yes."


I'm the latter myself, though the band has split into two parts before.  Remember Union?  (Though, both bands still had Jon in them.)  And that was a HUGE amount of band members in one album: Jon Anderson, Chris Squire, Trevor Rabin, Tony Kaye, Alan White, Bill Bruford, Rick Wakeman, Steve Howe, Tony Levin, Billy Sherwood, etc., etc.

Even the later stuff has been pretty good, though I'll admit that I haven't heard much after The Ladder.
 
2013-03-02 08:58:10 AM
Wow, you guys are far more loyal than I am. I quit buying the albums with 90210 and the last show I saw was ABWH, but I only went because it was free, considering what a disappointment the Drama tour was.
 
2013-03-02 09:10:33 AM

drewogatory: Wow, you guys are far more loyal than I am. I quit buying the albums with 90210 and the last show I saw was ABWH, but I only went because it was free, considering what a disappointment the Drama tour was.


Seeing as how 90125 was the album, I'm curious as to what it was about that TV show drove you away from the band.
 
2013-03-02 09:13:51 AM

Close2TheEdge: their last fill-in guy tried his best in live performances, but there is something missing.  For one thing, they play interminably slow, a trait they started to develop even while Anderson and Wakeman were still in the band.

By all mean, if you haven't seen them, go.  It's rare to see such accomplished musicianship in a rock band.  Just don't go expecting to see them at their peak.  Compare now with old YopuTube recordings and you will see what I mean.


I saw the 2010 tour with Benoît (balls) and while musically it was very good, the phrase that kept going through my head was "limping across the finish line".  They were playing on a small outdoor temporary stage on the horse track at a casino.  A beautiful June evening with absolutely perfect weather, but probably no more than 700-800 in attendance.

The thing that I remember the most (other than opening act Peter Frampton playing an instrumental cover of Black Hole Sun for some inexplicable reason) was the friendliness of the crowd.  I was there with a long time Yes fan, and he struck up conversations with several other fans.  I think I was the only person there who hadn't seen them before.
 
2013-03-02 09:25:53 AM

The Perfect Drug: drewogatory: Wow, you guys are far more loyal than I am. I quit buying the albums with 90210 and the last show I saw was ABWH, but I only went because it was free, considering what a disappointment the Drama tour was.

Seeing as how 90125 was the album, I'm curious as to what it was about that TV show drove you away from the band.


Man, it's early here in L.A. That's my only excuse.
 
2013-03-02 09:25:58 AM
What happened to their songs that I once knew so well?
 
2013-03-02 09:48:24 AM
"Owner of a Lonely Heart" is #2 on my list of most hated songs of all time. Right after Starship.
 
2013-03-02 09:55:33 AM

Snotnose: I saw Glass Hammer at a ProgFest maybe 15 years ago.  Although plagued with numerous technical difficulties, they rocked.  Bought their CD and took it home, it sucked :(

Also heard this week Baja Prog is back on.  Too bad it's in Mexico, my neck likes my head where it is.



Try Glass Hammer from from the album "Shadowlands" on. They're much better than the earlier albums. Anything where Susie Bogdanowicz is singing lead vocals is great. Their last two albums feature Jon Davidson on vocals, and while I prefer Susie, he sounds more like Jon Anderson than Jon Anderson, if that's your thing.
 
2013-03-02 10:48:01 AM
The sample hit from that song provided many hours of annoying for anyone who worked in or walked into a musical instrument store in the 80s. It was the keyboard department's Stairway To Heaven.

Bwayomp! Bwayomp! Bwa! Bwa! Bwa! Bwa! Bwa! Bwayomp!

Hard to believe now adays that the sampler responsible for that cost over a quarter of a million dollars and had less computing power than my 2 year old smart phone.
 
2013-03-02 10:59:15 AM
So how is the guitar player in Yes?
 
2013-03-02 11:12:33 AM

Fark Dupp: So how is the guitar player in Yes?

Yes, Howe is the guitar player in Yes.

 
2013-03-02 12:46:02 PM
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2013-03-02 02:40:05 PM
Yes was awesome as a jam band. Then they became.... not great.
 
2013-03-02 03:16:24 PM
To be fair to Yes, "Owner of a Lonely Heart" is lame-comeback-attempt Yes, not classic Yes.
 
2013-03-02 05:13:55 PM
Since no one else mentioned it, how is this considered "an interview with the founders of prog rock" when the only person interviewed is the replacement singer?
 
2013-03-02 05:53:18 PM
Is there really one "founder" of prog rock anyway? There were several bands that debuted at least a year before them (The moody blues was the oldest according to Wiki). Nonetheless, I do respect and like Yes.

/but I am a hardcore Genesis fan
//happy to see Rush get some mad respect from the Rock and Roll hall of fame
 
2013-03-02 06:19:16 PM
If you are interested in the beginnings of Prog Rock.

This is a decent documentary(pops)
 
2013-03-02 06:19:52 PM
A seasoned witch could call you from the depths of your disgrace subby.
 
2013-03-02 08:17:16 PM
But just like Anderson, David suffered a respiratory illness and did not feel comfortable continuing with Yes. With Benoît David's blessing, bassist Chris Squire, guitarist Steve Howe, drummer Alan White and keyboardist Geoff Downes found themselves yet a new singer from another Yes cover band.

So...Benoit choked?
 
2013-03-02 09:23:24 PM

Ravijn: Fark Dupp: So how is the guitar player in Yes?

Yes, Howe is the guitar player in Yes.


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2013-03-02 11:24:10 PM
Sure, there were bands/albums that can be considered prog before prog was prog (The Nice/Five Bridges, The Moody Blues/On The Threshold Of A Dream being the prime examples) but for me, this is Prog 1:1

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Yes, Genesis and many others were very influenced by that album. Yes were a struggling band doing pop songs until Steve Howe joined, I haven't listened to Yes and Time And A Word in 30 years.

Last time I saw Yes was in 1997 and I only went because they played The Revealing Science of God. Turned out to be an excellent show, though why Billy Sherwood was there was a bit of a mystery. He was off in the shadows on Squire's side, sang some harmonies and strummed his guitar a bit. Actually, I think he was there to play the guitar parts on Owner of a Lonely Heart because Steve Howe wandered off stage during that.

I'd go see them again if they did Tales From Topographic Oceans and/or Relayer complete. Maybe in 2015?
 
2013-03-03 12:23:00 AM

The_Philosopher_King: If you are interested in the beginnings of Prog Rock.

This is a decent documentary(pops)


Feh.

It isn't a REAL prog rock documentary unless it's 7 hours long and goes off onto multiple tangents.
 
2013-03-03 12:41:13 AM

The_Philosopher_King: If you are interested in the beginnings of Prog Rock.

This is a decent documentary(pops)


It's decent and has some funny lines--I guess it settles whether Bruford or Squire threw the first punch--but almost ignores the King Crimson connections. As

Henry Hollandnotes, you can't discuss the beginnings of prog without KC (or The Moody Blues or Procul Harum, for that matter), and the Yes/ELP connections with KC are pretty important.

Henry Holland: I'd go see them again if they did Tales From Topographic Oceans and/or Relayer complete. Maybe in 2015?


Perhaps, although they've been playing pretty ploddingly the last several years, and the sluggish tempos are a bit of a downer.  Also hard to forgive them kicking Oliver Wakeman to the curb, regardless of who was in the right in the situation with Anderson.

There are really fine versions of "The Gates of Delirium" and "Ritual" on the Symphonic Live DVD.  I don't usually care for band-with-orchestra stuff, but the orchestrations on this one are great, keyboardist Tom Breslin is a fine fill-in for Rick Wakeman, and the orchestra really gets into it; everyone seemed to have a great time.  And Anderson is in excellent form; "Soon" is fantastic.  Amazing that he could sound so good at his age.

Oh, and f*ck "Owner of a Lonely Heart."  Give me "Astral Traveller" any day if you need a five-minute Yes tune.
 
2013-03-03 02:29:19 PM
GypsyJoker: There are really fine versions of "The Gates of Delirium" and "Ritual" on the Symphonic Live DVD.

Thanks for the heads up. My first Yes show was 6/21/75 at the Hollywood Bowl. The setlist (thank you Forgotten Yesterdays, RIP):

Firebird intro
Sound Chaser
Close to the Edge
To Be Over
The Gates of Delirium
Your Move/I've Seen All Good People
Mood for a Day
Long Distance Runaround
Keyboard Solo
Clap
And You and I
Ritual (Nous Sommes du Soleil)

Roundabout
Sweet Dreams

I'd only been a Yes fan for a few months at that point (I was 15) and the only two albums I had were Relayer and Tales. So, sadly, all the Close to the Edge stuff was just a blur. However, I still clearly remember being blown away by the middle section of Ritual, what with Moraz doing this amazing background of maniacal sequencer riffs while White, Squire and Anderson bashed the hell out of various percussion instruments with a huge strobe light, great lights and tons of stage smoke making it look great. Plus, as someone just getting serious about learning to play bass guitar, I was totally amazed at what Chris Squire was doing.

Nous Sommes du Soleil.........
 
2013-03-03 03:00:47 PM
"An interview with the founders of prog rock, Yes..."

So, an interview only with the 3rd string Jon Anderson replacement is an interview with the band? Bad headline, sub.
 
2013-03-03 03:14:01 PM

The English Major: FirstNationalBastard: /Goosio demands to know!!!

This...this is why you are favorited.


I have three points of reference if there's a Yes headline... the Melvins song "Mine is No Disgrace", Slappy and Skippy at Woodstock (which was taken), and MST3K. Mentioning Owner of a Lonely Heart just made sure which reference I would use.

/YES orchestra hit.
 
2013-03-03 08:41:35 PM

Henry Holland: GypsyJoker: There are really fine versions of "The Gates of Delirium" and "Ritual" on the Symphonic Live DVD.

Thanks for the heads up. My first Yes show was 6/21/75 at the Hollywood Bowl. The setlist (thank you Forgotten Yesterdays, RIP):

Firebird intro
Sound Chaser
Close to the Edge
To Be Over
The Gates of Delirium
Your Move/I've Seen All Good People
Mood for a Day
Long Distance Runaround
Keyboard Solo
Clap
And You and I
Ritual (Nous Sommes du Soleil)

Roundabout
Sweet Dreams

I'd only been a Yes fan for a few months at that point (I was 15) and the only two albums I had were Relayer and Tales. So, sadly, all the Close to the Edge stuff was just a blur. However, I still clearly remember being blown away by the middle section of Ritual, what with Moraz doing this amazing background of maniacal sequencer riffs while White, Squire and Anderson bashed the hell out of various percussion instruments with a huge strobe light, great lights and tons of stage smoke making it look great. Plus, as someone just getting serious about learning to play bass guitar, I was totally amazed at what Chris Squire was doing.

Nous Sommes du Soleil.........


I saw them the first time in 76 with the Roger Dean stage. Great setup.

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2013-03-03 09:23:20 PM
Seen Yes live 3 times, 90125, Big Generator and (Re)Union tours.

No Jon, No Yes.

Even when his voice is on the blink he better than most.

/Rick Wakefield is a god.
//Trevor Rabin didn't suck.
///No Jon, No Yes.
 
2013-03-03 11:37:29 PM

Henry Holland:  Plus, as someone just getting serious about learning to play bass guitar, I was totally amazed at what Chris Squire was doing.



I know there are more influential, more subtle, or more technically-gifted bassists out there, but I can't think of any of them who I'd rather listen to.  The guy's a goddamn beast.  When he finally shuffles off this mortal coil--given his health, it could be any day--it'll be so long and thanks for all the Schindleria praematurus, and a gallon of Newcastle in his honor.
 
2013-03-04 12:46:03 AM

Henry Holland: Firebird intro
Sound Chaser
Close to the Edge
To Be Over
The Gates of Delirium
Your Move/I've Seen All Good People
Mood for a Day
Long Distance Runaround
Keyboard Solo
Clap
And You and I
Ritual (Nous Sommes du Soleil)

Roundabout
Sweet Dreams


So roughly 3,5 hour long show?

Keyboard Solo

So roughly 4,5 hour long show?
 
2013-03-04 01:59:06 AM
The first concert I ever went to was Yes at Boston Garden in 1974, where the played all of Topographic oceans plus Close to the Edge, and have seen them probably 10 times since, most recently last July in Boston, and brought my 2 sons and a friend from Germany. Trust me, Jon Davison sings all the older material really well. I was ready to be disappointed, but he really nailed it, especially on "Awaken". The rest of the band was in great form as well.

If you're in the 'No Jon (Anderson), no Yes' camp, you're doing yourself a great disservice (IMHO) by ignoring this tour and, especially with them all in their 60's (except for Davison), they'll be gone soon. In a few years you'll never have a chance to see them again...

I'll be at Hampton Beach, NH. on April 6th. They'll be playing 3 albums in their entirety, The Yes Album, Close to the Edge, and Going for the One.

Soon, oh soon the light...
 
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