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2013-03-02 10:44:38 AM  

Nefarious: Casino poker would probably have a resurgence if Americans could legally play cash games on the internet.  The U.S. government should just tax it and the online feeder system will provide enough renewed interest to start filling the poker rooms.


this. fark casinos for lobbying against me playing online. vegas not doing well? dont care anymore, buddy.
 
2013-03-02 10:47:47 AM  

Barricaded Gunman: Good. A couple of years ago a bunch of people I'd known for years were all of a sudden claiming to have been playing poker their whole lives, smugly saying things like "Look around the table. If you can't tell who the fish is, it's you" as if they were wizened, hardened cardsharps from way back, instead of dipsh#t mortgage brokers who watched a lot of people playing cards on cable.

F#ck poker, and f#ck most of the people who claim to play it.


I feel the same way, but I could swear most of them never played before Red Dead Redemption. Furthermore, of course it's Texas Hold 'Em... Whoever called it glorified Black Jack hit the nail on the head.
 
2013-03-02 10:53:21 AM  
About time. Get the sleazeballs back to their smoke-filled back room games and out of our sight. The next thing that needs to go is the pawn store shows.
 
2013-03-02 11:23:42 AM  

Enemabag Jones: Dancis_Frake,
I'm waiting patiently until the day comes where I can go to a local tournament and not have to face some a-hole wearing sunglasses, a cap, Ipod earbuds or whatever while playing.
The day the players will man up, I'll be back in the game.

Always thought that was cowardice, might as well be playing against the unibomber.

I am suprised nobody ever wore a wresting mask, a baklava or a hockey mask.





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2013-03-02 12:11:44 PM  

blue_2501: Meh, speak for yourself.  I don't play as much as I used to, but that's because I don't wander into casinos as much as I used to.  If I go into a casino, there are two games I play:

Blackjack (only if there isn't any Texas Hold 'Em)
Texas Hold 'Em

There's only a few games you SHOULD be playing at a casino, since they have a 51/49 split between the dealer and yourself.  With Poker, you're playing against other players, so you can actually make money.

People who walk in to play One Arm Bandits might as well light their cash on fire.  Even Roulette is boring as hell, since it's purely a game of coin-flipping chance.


There is NO GAME you should be playing in the casinos. The only time blackjack can be favorable to the player is if the player is counting and betting heavy when the aces and faces are heavy in the deck. Poker is only winnable if you are playing against rubes and marks. In a game of equivalent poker players, the rake wins.

And the reason for the smaller poker rooms closing is because the rake can only cover the dealer/floorspace/margin if the players are betting big. $50 pots earn the casino $2.50 per hand - peanuts! So the small-time players can even be a money loser. That leaves the big casinos fighting over bankrolled players who are counting on semi-skilled marks flying into Vegas with $10k and dreams of winning it big at poker.
 
2013-03-02 01:22:26 PM  

fusillade762: Poker has never been a high-profit game for casinos because players exchange money with one another, not the house. Rooms must employ a dealer for every table and can collect only a portion of what players put down, usually about 5 percent.

Not sure I understand the logic of paying a casino to let you play in their room. I mean, you need chips and a deck of cards. What does the casino offer, really?


Goons with guns, the feeling that you are James bond in Monte Carlo?
 
2013-03-02 02:38:43 PM  

madgonad: blue_2501: Meh, speak for yourself.  I don't play as much as I used to, but that's because I don't wander into casinos as much as I used to.  If I go into a casino, there are two games I play:

Blackjack (only if there isn't any Texas Hold 'Em)
Texas Hold 'Em

There's only a few games you SHOULD be playing at a casino, since they have a 51/49 split between the dealer and yourself.  With Poker, you're playing against other players, so you can actually make money.

People who walk in to play One Arm Bandits might as well light their cash on fire.  Even Roulette is boring as hell, since it's purely a game of coin-flipping chance.

There is NO GAME you should be playing in the casinos. The only time blackjack can be favorable to the player is if the player is counting and betting heavy when the aces and faces are heavy in the deck. Poker is only winnable if you are playing against rubes and marks. In a game of equivalent poker players, the rake wins.

And the reason for the smaller poker rooms closing is because the rake can only cover the dealer/floorspace/margin if the players are betting big. $50 pots earn the casino $2.50 per hand - peanuts! So the small-time players can even be a money loser. That leaves the big casinos fighting over bankrolled players who are counting on semi-skilled marks flying into Vegas with $10k and dreams of winning it big at poker.




Step 1: Play video poker in casino with free drinks
Step 2:
Step 3: Profit!
 
2013-03-02 03:34:13 PM  

Smeggy Smurf: //fark asthma


I used to be on Seretide 250/50mg 2 puffs, 2 times a day (plus Ventolin, as-and-when), then I took a vaporizer to the stash.

Seriously. Not taking in burning plant material, I found that I could stop with inhalers altogether and move to Singulair one-a-day tablets, and I only use Ventolin once-a-bluemoon, instead of twice a day.

Also, read up about tantric breathing tecniques. No joke - my life is turned around from these two things alone.
 
2013-03-02 03:35:13 PM  
sorry for the threadjack.

/posted from the laptop bought with online poker winnings.
 
2013-03-02 03:50:19 PM  

madgonad: There is NO GAME you should be playing in the casinos. The only time blackjack can be favorable to the player is if the player is counting and betting heavy when the aces and faces are heavy in the deck. Poker is only winnable if you are playing against rubes and marks. In a game of equivalent poker players, the rake wins.


Well, with the non-poker games, the dealer is always ahead.  (Even with poker, the dealer is still making plenty of money.)  Everybody should know that.  But the 51/49 games at least gives you a chance to get a small-time profit in the short run.  Get a good pot, and GTFO, else that 1% is going to rake you in.  It's about having fun and (hopefully) winning some money.  The non-coin-flip games are just going to rake you  MOST of the time, sort of like playing the lottery.  (Somebody's going to win, might as well not be you.)

Poker's the only game where you play the rake, if you play smart, and if somebody else is playing dumb.  It greatly depends on the environment, yes, but there's plenty of fast and loose players out there that don't really care if they are losing money.  Hell, last casino I was playing at was on a cruise.  Plenty of rich types who got drunk and I gladly accepted their chips.  Lost some money on the first night (honestly, I was rusty), but gained it back and more afterwards.  After a few high-risk all-in hands from aggressive (but fairly smart) players, I cashed out.  Don't push your luck and you'll typically come out ahead.

No, I don't gamble often, and I never bet more than I can afford.  Break any of those two rules and you really need to get help.
 
2013-03-02 04:57:18 PM  
I guess there are less douchebag frat boys with their hats on backwards and sunglasses on indoors these days.

/if only
 
2013-03-02 10:36:59 PM  
I like playing the free poker online, but never played for money online. A friend of mine is a pretty serious poker player (tracked his wins and losses for the last twenty years, cashed at the WSOP in Omaha). I went to a local card room with him and had a good time despite losing about $40. He would coach me after hands, telling me what I did wrong and how lucky I was when I won. He also has an incredible memory for hands and can play back the hands I was in better than I could. He also looks at the game differently than a beginner. It's a trip following his thought process and seeing exactly where I went wrong.

I still suck, but I like playing poker because if you play the smaller limit hold em games or play suitably tight at the small blind no-limit/pot-limit games, you can have fun and lose slower than at other forms of gambling. But yeah, the only way to win is not to play. You have to lose quite a bit, play a long time and really be a student of the game before you get good enough to make it back into the black.
 
2013-03-03 04:21:04 AM  
Reminds me of the old combination saloons and whorehouses in the Old West that had the big signs saying:

"Poker in the front, liquor in the rear."
 
2013-03-03 04:53:25 AM  
The appeal of poker is waning because it only takes so long for people to realize, hey, you know what, poker players are dicks.

Why would I want to sit at a table with a bunch of uninteresting assbags? I would have to be making some decent green doing that to make it worthwhile. And if that were the case, I would just get a farking job.

Meanwhile, I can STILL play online, and turn off chat for the annoying douches there.
 
2013-03-03 07:37:54 AM  

Do you know the way to Mordor: Reminds me of the old combination saloons and whorehouses in the Old West that had the big signs saying:

"Poker in the front, liquor in the rear."


Ewwww.

You have that backwards, you know.
 
2013-03-04 03:41:10 AM  

jack21221: Do you know the way to Mordor: Reminds me of the old combination saloons and whorehouses in the Old West that had the big signs saying:

"Poker in the front, liquor in the rear."

Ewwww.

You have that backwards, you know.


Oh well, I tried and failed- still it was worth a try
 
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