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(EarthCam)   Time lapse webcam footage of New Jersey DOT rebuilding a bridge in 48 hours   (earthcam.net) divider line 23
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2013-03-01 08:46:45 PM
Bullshiat. Private contractors. I don't care what state you live in, the DOT doesn't fix anything that fast.


//but it can be done
 
2013-03-01 09:11:39 PM

cretinbob: Bullshiat. Private contractors. I don't care what state you live in, the DOT doesn't fix anything that fast.


//but it can be done


yeah....farking this. the NJDOT couldn't build a bridge in 48 days let alone 48 hours.
 
2013-03-01 11:14:34 PM
I agree with the private contractors --- here in Georgia, you are lucky to get the GDOT to sign off on anything without an order, signed in triplicate, sent in, sent back, queried, lost, found, subjected to public enquiry, lost again, and finally buried in soft peat for three months and recycled as firelighters.

However, that being said, all I could go by was the title tag, and the title tag says NJ DOT.

/subby
//still finds the video awesomely cool
///it's like Restaurant Impossible meets Habitat For Humanity
 
2013-03-01 11:27:35 PM
I think I saw Cory Booker in that shot.

Not standing around, but actually pouring concrete and laying tar n shiat.
 
2013-03-01 11:43:52 PM
I remember last year in Toronto, it took them something like 6 months to remove a bridge. Then they started the new one.
 
2013-03-01 11:56:21 PM

Fiction Fan: I agree with the private contractors --- here in Georgia, you are lucky to get the GDOT to sign off on anything without an order, signed in triplicate, sent in, sent back, queried, lost, found, subjected to public enquiry, lost again, and finally buried in soft peat for three months and recycled as firelighters.

However, that being said, all I could go by was the title tag, and the title tag says NJ DOT.

/subby
//still finds the video awesomely cool
///it's like Restaurant Impossible meets Habitat For Humanity


The only time I complained to the DC DOT (DDOT) for shutting down lanes before 9am to build the "US Institute of Peace" on 23rd and Constitution, they never got back to me.  The signs and the laws were clear - no lane shutdowns before 9am.  So I filled out the complaint form every day for a month.  After a month, they sent a DC police officer to my goddamn office to tell me they had lodged a "harassment complaint" and I should stop filling out the form.  The officer was apologetic because he knew exactly what I was complaining about.

Turns out the construction company was just paying the fines each day to shut the lane down early.  It cost them $1000 a day if they blocked the lanes early, so they just added it to the cost of the project.  DDOT was happy because of the extra money, the contractors were fine with it because it was a stupidly small sum, and for two years commuters got farked in the ass.

For the record, they never responded to any of the 40+ complaint forms I filled out, beyond sending the officer.

Government employees are awesome.
 
2013-03-02 12:27:39 AM

Lsherm: Government employees are awesome.


So you're pissed that a DOT in a different jurisdiction did all that they were allowed to do when a private company broke the law.

Ooooooookay
 
2013-03-02 01:24:41 AM
 
2013-03-02 02:54:07 AM

Krieghund: Lsherm: Government employees are awesome.

So you're pissed that a DOT in a different jurisdiction did all that they were allowed to do when a private company broke the law.

Ooooooookay


Are you farking retarded?  Go read my post again.
 
2013-03-02 03:05:52 AM

Lsherm: Government employees are awesome.


The only issue here is that the fine is not high enough.
 
2013-03-02 03:36:01 AM
i'm in NJ, not amused. only a few months into a one year project where a terribly outdated unsafe viaduct has been removed and a new one is being built. the project starts where my yard ends. holy farking crap i'm seeing every type of heavy equipment machine on the market. and they're LOUD. but it is very cool. it's like a life size Matchbox sand box diorama that changes every day.

i'll give those SOB's credit: they've been out there working every day in the most vicious miserable ungodly weather i've ever seen people work in. those guys must be the meanest bastards i've ever seen, i can't imagine working outdoors in those conditions. and not one lunch truck has ever been on site. those bad asses probably eat rocks and steel for lunch.
 
2013-03-02 06:15:34 AM

ManateeGag: cretinbob: Bullshiat. Private contractors. I don't care what state you live in, the DOT doesn't fix anything that fast.


//but it can be done

yeah....farking this. the NJDOT couldn't build a bridge in 48 days let alone 48 hours.


It took the MTA four weeks to rebuild a single flight of stairs at my local station.
 
2013-03-02 08:07:10 AM

cretinbob: Bullshiat. Private contractors. I don't care what state you live in, the DOT doesn't fix anything that fast.


//but it can be done


Next you'll tell me they're not union.
 
2013-03-02 08:40:57 AM

Lsherm: Krieghund: Lsherm: Government employees are awesome.

So you're pissed that a DOT in a different jurisdiction did all that they were allowed to do when a private company broke the law.

Ooooooookay

Are you farking retarded?  Go read my post again.


He did read your post. The lanes were getting shut down too early by a company with authority to shut them down for the project. DOT recognized this, and punished them for each violation in accordance with the law. Yes, they may have broken the law. But if the punishment for breaking the law is a small fine, the authority (DOT) responsible for enforcement imposes the fine, and the fine is paid, there ain't much more to that law.

It's like a parking ticket. I worked in an administrative role for a contractor once, just as a temp job. They ignored parking laws when inconvenient, took the $50-$100 parking tickets, paid them off, and just put them down as a cost. Same damn thing. If you lose less money paying the fine than you would to break the law, you break the law. That's why we're having trouble with banks, for chrissakes.
 
2013-03-02 09:46:33 AM
Bob the Builder's first attempt at the project: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vTwdMCUEVY
 
2013-03-02 10:28:36 AM

cptjeff: Lsherm: Krieghund: Lsherm: Government employees are awesome.

So you're pissed that a DOT in a different jurisdiction did all that they were allowed to do when a private company broke the law.

Ooooooookay

Are you farking retarded?  Go read my post again.

He did read your post. The lanes were getting shut down too early by a company with authority to shut them down for the project. DOT recognized this, and punished them for each violation in accordance with the law. Yes, they may have broken the law. But if the punishment for breaking the law is a small fine, the authority (DOT) responsible for enforcement imposes the fine, and the fine is paid, there ain't much more to that law.

It's like a parking ticket. I worked in an administrative role for a contractor once, just as a temp job. They ignored parking laws when inconvenient, took the $50-$100 parking tickets, paid them off, and just put them down as a cost. Same damn thing. If you lose less money paying the fine than you would to break the law, you break the law. That's why we're having trouble with banks, for chrissakes.


I believe his issue is that he lodged 40 farking complaint forms, and never got a single call from anyone to explain wtf was going on and why, he only got a cop sent by to talk to him about "harassment."
 
2013-03-02 10:48:28 AM

NIXON YOU DOLT!!!!!: cptjeff: Lsherm: Krieghund: Lsherm: Government employees are awesome.

So you're pissed that a DOT in a different jurisdiction did all that they were allowed to do when a private company broke the law.

Ooooooookay

Are you farking retarded?  Go read my post again.

He did read your post. The lanes were getting shut down too early by a company with authority to shut them down for the project. DOT recognized this, and punished them for each violation in accordance with the law. Yes, they may have broken the law. But if the punishment for breaking the law is a small fine, the authority (DOT) responsible for enforcement imposes the fine, and the fine is paid, there ain't much more to that law.

It's like a parking ticket. I worked in an administrative role for a contractor once, just as a temp job. They ignored parking laws when inconvenient, took the $50-$100 parking tickets, paid them off, and just put them down as a cost. Same damn thing. If you lose less money paying the fine than you would to break the law, you break the law. That's why we're having trouble with banks, for chrissakes.

I believe his issue is that he lodged 40 farking complaint forms, and never got a single call from anyone to explain wtf was going on and why, he only got a cop sent by to talk to him about "harassment."


And? Civil servants are incredibly overworked these days, they don't have time to respond to every howl at the moon idiot who writes them with what were probably increasingly incoherent complaints, especially when they're already doing everything they can do on that action.

I complain to companies online a fair amount. I figure if I register a problem I have with a product, they'll assume I'm not the only one with that complaint, and try to take it into account in future versions. I don't, however, expect them to ever send me a response. Doing that costs them time and money. Just properly registering the complaint costs them time and money- somebody's gotta read it, after all. Raging about things doesn't help. If it's a valid issue, they'll take it into account. If it's not, they'll ignore it. Either way, you're not important enough that you'll get a response every time.
 
2013-03-02 02:46:25 PM

cptjeff: NIXON YOU DOLT!!!!!: cptjeff: Lsherm: Krieghund: Lsherm: Government employees are awesome.

So you're pissed that a DOT in a different jurisdiction did all that they were allowed to do when a private company broke the law.

Ooooooookay

Are you farking retarded?  Go read my post again.

He did read your post. The lanes were getting shut down too early by a company with authority to shut them down for the project. DOT recognized this, and punished them for each violation in accordance with the law. Yes, they may have broken the law. But if the punishment for breaking the law is a small fine, the authority (DOT) responsible for enforcement imposes the fine, and the fine is paid, there ain't much more to that law.

It's like a parking ticket. I worked in an administrative role for a contractor once, just as a temp job. They ignored parking laws when inconvenient, took the $50-$100 parking tickets, paid them off, and just put them down as a cost. Same damn thing. If you lose less money paying the fine than you would to break the law, you break the law. That's why we're having trouble with banks, for chrissakes.

I believe his issue is that he lodged 40 farking complaint forms, and never got a single call from anyone to explain wtf was going on and why, he only got a cop sent by to talk to him about "harassment."

And? Civil servants are incredibly overworked these days, they don't have time to respond to every howl at the moon idiot who writes them with what were probably increasingly incoherent complaints, especially when they're already doing everything they can do on that action.

I complain to companies online a fair amount. I figure if I register a problem I have with a product, they'll assume I'm not the only one with that complaint, and try to take it into account in future versions. I don't, however, expect them to ever send me a response. Doing that costs them time and money. Just properly registering the complaint costs them time and money- somebody's gotta re ...


Bullshiat. It would have taken less time for a clerk, supervisor, or manager to call and explain than it did to call the police to take a harassment report.  And I don't know where the fark you live, but our civil servants are expected to respond to the citizens they serve and not just ignore them until they get annoyed enough that they feel like sending the police after them.
 
2013-03-02 03:02:15 PM

NIXON YOU DOLT!!!!!: Bullshiat. It would have taken less time for a clerk, supervisor, or manager to call and explain than it did to call the police to take a harassment report. And I don't know where the fark you live, but our civil servants are expected to respond to the citizens they serve and not just ignore them until they get annoyed enough that they feel like sending the police after them.



The police thing is odd, I'll give you that, but I suspect we're not getting the whole story. He very well have gotten a little heated and said things that could have been taken as threats, or something along those lines.

And their job is not to respond to every crackpot idiot who won't stop with the abusive e-mails. Their job is to actually do the work they need to do to keep the DOT running.
 
2013-03-02 08:05:50 PM
It took NJ over 9000 years to repave 295. I think they just finished up this past summer.
 
2013-03-03 12:42:05 AM

cptjeff: He very well have gotten a little heated


Lsherm: Are you farking retarded? Go read my post again.


Gee, cptjeff, I have no idea where you got that idea from.
 
2013-03-03 08:07:49 AM
It's NJ?  Where's the toll booth?
 
2013-03-03 05:31:12 PM
aye, would only be accurate if the video itself was 48 hours long...
 
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