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2013-03-01 09:52:27 PM

dopekitty74: digitalrain: KrispyKritter: there were people of governments that killed far more but Hitler gets all the press. it's always Hitler, Hitler, Hitler.

Am I the only one who read that in Jan Brady's voice?

Hehe, nope.

/now picturing Musssolini shaking a fist and complaining it's all about Hitler, Hitler Hitler!


lh5.googleusercontent.com

Hitler, Hitler, Hitler!

I couldn't resist a quick and dirty photoshop.
 
2013-03-01 09:52:56 PM

sxacho: James F. Campbell: Why, pray tell?

Short story of the latest, my wife is a big facebooker. She has her friends and all that, but so one of her friends posts that bullshiat "Bill Cosby" rant about Muslims and the poor ruining America thing. So my wife responds (I'm so farking proud, I taught her to do this) "this shait ain't true, here's a link". The post was pulled in a manner of minutes and this other girl didn't speak to my wife for a week... or maybe longer, I don't know if they're talking. Everytime I've done that I've actually never been welcome to speak by the other person again.


I'm trying to follow your story, so please tell me if I understand you correctly. You're thinking it might be time to leave the US because you think some bad things will be happening soon. And one of the bad things that has happened in the US is that your wife disagreed with her friend's FB post and the friend is no longer talking to your wife. Is this what you're saying?
 
2013-03-01 09:53:18 PM
They were just using green, small scale, locally sourced slave labor.
 
2013-03-01 09:53:20 PM

mekki: vygramul: ISO15693: lifeboat: Say what you will about Hitler, but at least he killed Hitler.

Yes but he also killed the guy who killed hitler.

Yeah, but he also killed THAT guy.

It's a Russian nesting doll of Hitlers.


It'shiatlers all the way down.
 
2013-03-01 09:56:57 PM

Xythero: Alonjar: St. Snuff: systematic genocide of millions by the Nazis is incomparable to any other act by man in history.

I guess you arent terribly familiar with human history.  Genocide was always the order of the day... this is a very rare time in human history where genocide is frowned upon.  Its a downright anomaly, really.  You should read some eye witness accounts of the crusades some time... the nazi's were practically humane.

The human population was lower in those centuries.  The Aztecs murdered countless tribes on the tops of those pyramids, but never reached Nazi numbers.  I think that is why, even in a world filled with evil, the Nazis always win most evil.


The Holocaust was every bit as evil as advertised, but the Nazis don't win on either absolute numbers (Stalin, especially in the Ukraine) or relative ones (Genghis Khan; see Baghdad).
 
2013-03-01 09:57:46 PM
That's the jews punishment for killing our savior Jesus Christ.
They turned away from God and they deserved to be punished. This is why God scattered them to the four corners of the earth.
 
2013-03-01 09:58:07 PM

Atomic Spunk: sxacho: James F. Campbell: Why, pray tell?

Short story of the latest, my wife is a big facebooker. She has her friends and all that, but so one of her friends posts that bullshiat "Bill Cosby" rant about Muslims and the poor ruining America thing. So my wife responds (I'm so farking proud, I taught her to do this) "this shait ain't true, here's a link". The post was pulled in a manner of minutes and this other girl didn't speak to my wife for a week... or maybe longer, I don't know if they're talking. Everytime I've done that I've actually never been welcome to speak by the other person again.

I'm trying to follow your story, so please tell me if I understand you correctly. You're thinking it might be time to leave the US because you think some bad things will be happening soon. And one of the bad things that has happened in the US is that your wife disagreed with her friend's FB post and the friend is no longer talking to your wife. Is this what you're saying?


No. It's a small sign that I think is worth paying attention to. Your friends laying out overly patriotic, xenophobic messages that would otherwise go unchallenged among your other friends. I think that's pretty worrisome.

Little things add up to hegemony. I'd hate to be stuck is all.
 
2013-03-01 09:58:17 PM

Hagenhatesyouall: doglover: America had concentration camps, too. It was the soup du jour of warfare to arrest citizens for the crime of ethnicity.

No, no, NO, no, NO!!

We had "reservations"....."reservations", NOT "concentration camps".

Completely different. Really.


4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-03-01 09:58:42 PM
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2013-03-01 10:00:32 PM

chrylis: Genghis Khan


Now this guy was a real pro.
 
2013-03-01 10:01:21 PM
A188991

That fits on an IBM post-1931 card nicely. Surely it's just a coinky-dinky.
 
2013-03-01 10:01:36 PM
So, people that work in holocaust companies are farking terrible at history like most dumbasses?  You don't say.
 
2013-03-01 10:01:52 PM

jake_lex: m00: BigLuca: It's not "The Holocaust" it's "The Holocaust Theory."

Teach the controversy.

Holocaust denial is so vile, so scummy, and holocaust deniers are such horrid pieces of human shiat, that it's one of the few things I just cannot joke about.


Well, not with THAT attitude, Debbie Downer.
 
2013-03-01 10:03:07 PM

FriarReb98: Louisiana_Sitar_Club: [www.bbc.co.uk image 401x536]
[img2.timeinc.net image 399x533]

LordOfThePings: [24.media.tumblr.com image 400x538][i45.tinypic.com image 358x538]

And that is quite possibly one of the greatest simulposts of all time.


THAT JUST HAPPENED.
 
2013-03-01 10:03:27 PM

iheartscotch: davidphogan: iheartscotch: SuddenlySamhain: iheartscotch: I guess they did nazi that coming.

ugh,
how long have you been sitting on that egg?

Since the last time we had a nazi thread.

So next dog thread, if anyone needs you you'll be in your lab?

Precisely, mien Fürher; excuse me, Mr. President.

/ The nature of the doomsday device; whole idea of this machine, you know. Deterrence is the art of producing in the mind of the enemy... the FEAR to attack. And so, because of the automated and irrevocable decision-making process which rules out human meddling, the Doomsday machine is terrifying and simple to understand... and completely credible and convincing.


Dude. No fighting in the war room.
 
2013-03-01 10:03:53 PM

lifeboat: Say what you will about Hitler, but at least he killed Hitler.


Funny
 
2013-03-01 10:04:24 PM

Lordserb: They may pale in comparison with the injustices done by other nations,


I wouldn't say that at all. Between slavery and the shiat we did to the Indians, I'd say we're right up there with the Germans when it comes to pure evil. We're a little less murderous, of course, but killing a person is far from the worst thing you can do to someone. And let's not forget that the creation of this nation was nothing more or less than robbery on a massive scale.
 
2013-03-01 10:04:47 PM

KrispyKritter: there were people of governments that killed far more but Hitler gets all the press. it's always Hitler, Hitler, Hitler.


It's because of the snazzy Nazi uniforms. No other brutalizing, murdering dictatorship had such styling clothes.
 
2013-03-01 10:06:53 PM

Alonjar: St. Snuff: systematic genocide of millions by the Nazis is incomparable to any other act by man in history.

I guess you arent terribly familiar with human history.  Genocide was always the order of the day... this is a very rare time in human history where genocide is frowned upon.  Its a downright anomaly, really.  You should read some eye witness accounts of the crusades some time... the nazi's were practically humane.


I believe as pointed out prior, it was the sheer scale at which the Nazi's acted, such that the world had never before seen, is what distinguishes the Holocaust from the patterned mass-slayings of human history - which is not only present in the Medieval Ages, but even during the rule of the Egyptian Pharaoh's and the great dynasties of Asia.

And as for considering the continual decrease in the instances of genocide an anomaly is simply asinine. Putting aside the notion that the Holocaust was the only instance of genocide in the the 20th Century, which is patently false, calling societal progression an anomaly is an illogical and untenable position to hold.
 
2013-03-01 10:07:05 PM

Nefarious: chrylis: Genghis Khan

Now this guy was a real pro.


Hey, over a thousand years later, something like 1/5th of Asians are directly related to him because of how much he enjoyed legitimate rape. And how their bodies didn't have a way of shutting that down.
 
2013-03-01 10:07:56 PM

doglover: Hagenhatesyouall: doglover: America had concentration camps, too. It was the soup du jour of warfare to arrest citizens for the crime of ethnicity.

No, no, NO, no, NO!!

We had "reservations"....."reservations", NOT "concentration camps".

Completely different. Really.


I dunno, that seems a helluva lot more polite.
 
2013-03-01 10:08:47 PM

LordOfThePings: [www.midlifegamer.net image 324x270]


Freakin' awesome.
 
2013-03-01 10:09:15 PM

LordOfThePings: [24.media.tumblr.com image 400x538][i45.tinypic.com image 358x538]


Louisiana_Sitar_Club: [www.bbc.co.uk image 401x536]
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SIMULPOST - TO THE SECOND

THAT
WAS
CREEPY



/Its a sign from GOD
//warning us that Keanu Reeves is STALIN
///AND that Netanyahu is Hitler
 
2013-03-01 10:09:31 PM

sxacho: Atomic Spunk: sxacho: James F. Campbell: Why, pray tell?

Short story of the latest, my wife is a big facebooker. She has her friends and all that, but so one of her friends posts that bullshiat "Bill Cosby" rant about Muslims and the poor ruining America thing. So my wife responds (I'm so farking proud, I taught her to do this) "this shait ain't true, here's a link". The post was pulled in a manner of minutes and this other girl didn't speak to my wife for a week... or maybe longer, I don't know if they're talking. Everytime I've done that I've actually never been welcome to speak by the other person again.

I'm trying to follow your story, so please tell me if I understand you correctly. You're thinking it might be time to leave the US because you think some bad things will be happening soon. And one of the bad things that has happened in the US is that your wife disagreed with her friend's FB post and the friend is no longer talking to your wife. Is this what you're saying?

No. It's a small sign that I think is worth paying attention to. Your friends laying out overly patriotic, xenophobic messages that would otherwise go unchallenged among your other friends. I think that's pretty worrisome.

Little things add up to hegemony. I'd hate to be stuck is all.


I know what you mean. People are saying sh*t publicly these days that would have been social suicide back in the 1990s. American culture is regressing, and quickly. Ignorance is becoming socially accepted and even admired.
 
2013-03-01 10:11:22 PM
So this old Jew wins $10 million in the lottery and his friend asks,"What are you going to do with the money?"
The old Jew says,"Well I'm gonna give $1 million to the American Nazi Party."
The friend replies,"What, why the hell would you do that, those bastards tried to kill you?"
The old Jew looks at his arm and says, "Yeah, but they gave me the numbers"
 
2013-03-01 10:12:20 PM

Lt. Cheese Weasel: FriarReb98: Louisiana_Sitar_Club: [www.bbc.co.uk image 401x536]
[img2.timeinc.net image 399x533]

LordOfThePings: [24.media.tumblr.com image 400x538][i45.tinypic.com image 358x538]

And that is quite possibly one of the greatest simulposts of all time.

Well, I dunno, I've seen better. Let's not all start sucking each other dicks just yet.....


So maybe it wasn't the greatest simulpost of all time.  Are you and I really going to let that stop us?  I think you know the answer, my little weasel.
 
2013-03-01 10:12:23 PM

silvervial: KrispyKritter: there were people of governments that killed far more but Hitler gets all the press. it's always Hitler, Hitler, Hitler.

It's because of the snazzy Nazi uniforms. No other brutalizing, murdering dictatorship had such styling clothes.


Made by Hugo Boss.
 
2013-03-01 10:12:40 PM

malaktaus: Lordserb: They may pale in comparison with the injustices done by other nations,

I wouldn't say that at all. Between slavery and the shiat we did to the Indians, I'd say we're right up there with the Germans when it comes to pure evil. We're a little less murderous, of course, but killing a person is far from the worst thing you can do to someone. And let's not forget that the creation of this nation was nothing more or less than robbery on a massive scale.


To be fair I think you'd be hard pressed to name a single country that isn't the product of someone stealing land from somebody at some point.
 
2013-03-01 10:12:57 PM

mekki: Honest to God, Subby, I was expecting an article about cannibalism. Because knowing all the stuff the Nazis did, cannibalism would the only thing that could make it worse.


Actually, that was the Japanese:

Many written reports and testimonies collected by the Australian War Crimes Section of the Tokyo tribunal, and investigated by prosecutor. This frequently involved murder for the purpose of securing bodies. For example, an Changdi Ram, testified that: "[on November 12, 1944] the Kempeitai beheaded [an Allied] pilot. I saw this from behind a tree and watched some of the Japanese cut flesh from his arms, legs, hips, buttocks and carry it off to their quarters... They cut it [into] small pieces and fried it.

Link
 
2013-03-01 10:15:06 PM
24.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-03-01 10:15:19 PM
By all means, continue to write about things that the entirety of Europe knew was happening before WW2 even started, and criminally chose to ignore. Meanwhile China, RIGHT NOW, is doing this VERY SAME shiat to political dissidents, religious minorities and journalists EVERY DAY, which the west, again, knows and is criminally choosing to ignore.
 
2013-03-01 10:17:45 PM

malaktaus: And let's not forget that the creation of this nation was nothing more or less than robbery on a massive scale.


Now that's pretty much how the world worked until quite recently.  (You could probably easily argue it still does)  You capture a piece of territory and either absorb or drive out the native population.  It's not pretty, it's not enlightened but the conqueror and the conquered have been around for almost as long as we have.  I'm not excusing it but the European colonization of North America wasn't a unique situation and despite what some naive people may believe the Native Americans did not all live in harmony together.
 
2013-03-01 10:18:17 PM
Say what you will, the man had a strong work ethic.

/Too soon?
 
2013-03-01 10:18:47 PM

Xythero: Alonjar: St. Snuff: systematic genocide of millions by the Nazis is incomparable to any other act by man in history.

I guess you arent terribly familiar with human history.  Genocide was always the order of the day... this is a very rare time in human history where genocide is frowned upon.  Its a downright anomaly, really.  You should read some eye witness accounts of the crusades some time... the nazi's were practically humane.

The human population was lower in those centuries.  The Aztecs murdered countless tribes on the tops of those pyramids, but never reached Nazi numbers.  I think that is why, even in a world filled with evil, the Nazis always win most evil.


That's because of the much-vaunted "German efficiency." I'm sure we are all grateful that they now turn that national characteristic towards making cars.

/and a beautiful country
//and a great economy
///and farking awesome food
 
2013-03-01 10:20:16 PM

sxacho: James F. Campbell: Why, pray tell?

Short story of the latest, my wife is a big facebooker. She has her friends and all that, but so one of her friends posts that bullshiat "Bill Cosby" rant about Muslims and the poor ruining America thing. So my wife responds (I'm so farking proud, I taught her to do this) "this shait ain't true, here's a link". The post was pulled in a manner of minutes and this other girl didn't speak to my wife for a week... or maybe longer, I don't know if they're talking. Everytime I've done that I've actually never been welcome to speak by the other person again.


Ah. I thought you were going to blame Obama.
 
2013-03-01 10:20:29 PM
He proved millions of people could be collected and deported.......So, let's get to it ICE agents.
 
2013-03-01 10:22:45 PM
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/oontz oontz oontz oontz
 
2013-03-01 10:23:09 PM
The numbers astound: 30,000 slave labor camps; 1,150 Jewish ghettos; 980 concentration camps; 1,000 prisoner-of-war camps; 500 brothels filled with sex slaves; and thousands of other camps used for euthanizing the elderly and infirm, performing forced abortions, "Germanizing" prisoners or transporting victims to killing centers.

In Berlin alone, researchers have documented some 3,000 camps and so-called Jew houses, while Hamburg held 1,300 sites.

Dr. Dean, a co-researcher, said the findings left no doubt in his mind that many German citizens, despite the frequent claims of ignorance after the war, must have known about the widespread existence of the Nazi camps at the time.

"You literally could not go anywhere in Germany without running into forced labor camps, P.O.W. camps, concentration camps," he said. "They were everywhere."
 
2013-03-01 10:23:11 PM

doglover: America had concentration camps, too. It was the soup du jour of warfare to arrest citizens for the crime of ethnicity.


It was the 1940s
 
2013-03-01 10:24:17 PM

RockChalkH1N1: doglover: America had concentration camps, too. It was the soup du jour of warfare to arrest citizens for the crime of ethnicity.

It was the 1940s


While Japanese internment was a shameful and inexcusable period of paranoia and abuse of the constitution, it is in no way remotely comparable with the Holocaust. The only similarity is that people of like ethnicity were grouped together in camps.
 
2013-03-01 10:25:13 PM
Good to see that they did not sit on the evidence for 70 years or something....
 
2013-03-01 10:25:13 PM
Become victims of Hitler's
quest for "living space".

huisjenphilosophy.files.wordpress.com
Free Reign forever to create
settlements in Palestinian
          West bank.
 
2013-03-01 10:26:48 PM
Came for Eddy, disappointed, want a job done right, got to do it yourself.

img107.imageshack.us
 
2013-03-01 10:28:23 PM
Thanks, Obama.
 
2013-03-01 10:28:55 PM

Plant Rights Activist: They were just using green, small scale, locally sourced slave labor.


Well, it wasn't entirely "locally sourced." My husband's grandfather was "conscripted" from the Netherlands to work at forced labor (i.e., he was a slave) in Germany during the war. My mother-in-law said he was lucky, since his rations included sausage, while she and her mother back in Holland nearly starved. She never voluntarily ate a beet again as long as she lived. Or rye bread.
 
2013-03-01 10:29:27 PM

cman: Racism runs deep. It is still in our psyche. We may be an enlightened species, but we have a major problem, and that is our programming. What is different could be dangerous. This is a primitive emotion from where bigotry comes from. In order for us to evolve we must accept who we are so we can recognize it and control it.



I strongly agree with this part of your statement.

The primal drive toward tribalism/ ethnocentrism/ nationalism/ racism no doubt served us as a species over the course of much of our evolution, but the world has become much too small a place as of late, and these tendencies have suddenly become a major liability - perhaps our single greatest liability.

Unfortunately I these tendencies are so heavily ingrained in our nature that they will not be easily eradicated, so I'm not terribly optimistic.

And strangely, there are many of us who insist that certain groups be not only allowed, but ENCOURAGED to continue on this treacherous path of separatism and particularism.

No, I'm not terribly optimistic at all.
 
2013-03-01 10:30:14 PM

bitsy_boffin: Came for Eddy, disappointed, want a job done right, got to do it yourself.


I was expecting the "what's going on in this thread...oh lord!" by now.
 
2013-03-01 10:31:34 PM

Ryker's Peninsula: It'shiatlers all the way down.


I don't know why, but that particular filter pwnage really made me laugh.  Thanks for that.
 
2013-03-01 10:32:46 PM

digitalrain: Atomic Spunk: [img.dailymail.co.uk image 468x551]
snickers at Hitler's body count

By the way, I while looking for the picture above, I learned that Stalin was quite handsome when he was young:
[24.media.tumblr.com image 500x672]

[24.media.tumblr.com image 500x672]

Young Stalin was a hipster? Who knew???


Young Stalin had dead eyes.
 
2013-03-01 10:33:37 PM

Amos Quito: LordOfThePings: [24.media.tumblr.com image 400x538][i45.tinypic.com image 358x538]

Louisiana_Sitar_Club: [www.bbc.co.uk image 401x536]
[img2.timeinc.net image 399x533]

SIMULPOST - TO THE SECOND

THAT
WAS
CREEPY


/Its a sign from GOD
//warning us that Keanu Reeves is STALIN
///AND that Netanyahu is Hitler


Keanu Reeves already played Lucifer's lawyer, it's not much of a stretch.
 
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