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(Inventorspot)   Thanks to China's booming nuclear industry, "America Syndrome" will be coming soon to your local theater, front yard   (inventorspot.com) divider line 38
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2013-03-01 09:59:14 PM
Way to go, you NIMBY idiots. China actually HAS surpassed the United States on something.

upload.wikimedia.org

Gen III+ reactors are already out in commercial use. Gen IV reactors are as close as we can come with current technology limitations to being safe and mass proliferate without the risk of a nuclear weapon coming from them, and the technology for the systems is already feasible for commercial use.

But no. TEH RADIATIONS keeps the United States from doing this.
 
2013-03-01 10:35:49 PM
Shouldn't this be next to the Fallout 4 thread?
 
2013-03-01 10:36:44 PM
Oh wait! It is! Huzzuh!
 
2013-03-01 10:38:20 PM
Whoever coined the term "China Syndrome" had a really poor understanding of how a planet's gravity operates.
 
2013-03-01 10:38:58 PM

BronyMedic: Way to go, you NIMBY idiots. China actually HAS surpassed the United States on something.



Gen III+ reactors are already out in commercial use. Gen IV reactors are as close as we can come with current technology limitations to being safe and mass proliferate without the risk of a nuclear weapon coming from them, and the technology for the systems is already feasible for commercial use.

But no. TEH RADIATIONS keeps the United States from doing this.


Gen 4 plants, do they have the spent fuel rods issue solved? Honest question. I don't really like the idea of having to bury them in Nevada.
 
2013-03-01 10:53:20 PM

moistD: BronyMedic: Way to go, you NIMBY idiots. China actually HAS surpassed the United States on something.

Gen III+ reactors are already out in commercial use. Gen IV reactors are as close as we can come with current technology limitations to being safe and mass proliferate without the risk of a nuclear weapon coming from them, and the technology for the systems is already feasible for commercial use.

But no. TEH RADIATIONS keeps the United States from doing this.

Gen 4 plants, do they have the spent fuel rods issue solved? Honest question. I don't really like the idea of having to bury them in Nevada.


One, the fuel rod issue is of our own making, there's no reason we can't just burn the fark out of fuel like the french.  It also happens to make fission even more cost effective.

Two, yes, flouride or traveling wave reactors burn all the way down to easily managed low level waste products.  Which by the way even fusion reactors would have as part of repairs, upgrades or decommissioning.
 
2013-03-01 11:01:00 PM

Tickle Mittens: Two, yes, flouride or traveling wave reactors burn all the way down to easily managed low level waste products. Which by the way even fusion reactors would have as part of repairs, upgrades or decommissioning.


I don't know why we don't use Fluorine with our fuel (or do we?) It a great element at cleaning stuff up.
 
2013-03-01 11:11:05 PM
Reads like an ad for China.
 
2013-03-01 11:37:06 PM

paulleah: Reads like an ad for China.


This seems to be what this website is all about.
Did you know that Fill and Freeze Pops make healthy, refreshing treats?

http://inventorspot.com/articles/fill_freeze_pops_make_healthy_refre sh ing_treats

I have to laugh at China's nuclear industry sharing a website with these infomercials.
Let's all look forward to China's many catastrophes from their arsenal of nuclear power plants.
 
2013-03-01 11:41:45 PM

BronyMedic: Way to go, you NIMBY idiots. China actually HAS surpassed the United States on something.

[upload.wikimedia.org image 800x449]

Gen III+ reactors are already out in commercial use. Gen IV reactors are as close as we can come with current technology limitations to being safe and mass proliferate without the risk of a nuclear weapon coming from them, and the technology for the systems is already feasible for commercial use.

But no. TEH RADIATIONS keeps the United States from doing this.


China doesn't have an EPA.

If their performance with dealing with waste products from coal plants are any indication, this can only end well for the world in the long run.
 
2013-03-01 11:52:47 PM

mrlewish: Tickle Mittens: Two, yes, flouride or traveling wave reactors burn all the way down to easily managed low level waste products. Which by the way even fusion reactors would have as part of repairs, upgrades or decommissioning.

I don't know why we don't use Fluorine with our fuel (or do we?) It a great element at cleaning stuff up.


We don't want it stealing the essence of our rods, the precious fluids surrounding them could become contaminated.
 
2013-03-01 11:53:50 PM

Lsherm: BronyMedic: Way to go, you NIMBY idiots. China actually HAS surpassed the United States on something.

[upload.wikimedia.org image 800x449]

Gen III+ reactors are already out in commercial use. Gen IV reactors are as close as we can come with current technology limitations to being safe and mass proliferate without the risk of a nuclear weapon coming from them, and the technology for the systems is already feasible for commercial use.

But no. TEH RADIATIONS keeps the United States from doing this.

China doesn't have an EPA.

If their performance with dealing with waste products from coal plants are any indication, this can only end well for the world in the long run.


It'll be china that winds up with the giant monsters going after major cities. I for one bow to our giant panda overlords.
 
2013-03-01 11:56:46 PM

BronyMedic: Way to go, you NIMBY idiots. China actually HAS surpassed the United States on something.

[upload.wikimedia.org image 800x449]

Gen III+ reactors are already out in commercial use. Gen IV reactors are as close as we can come with current technology limitations to being safe and mass proliferate without the risk of a nuclear weapon coming from them, and the technology for the systems is already feasible for commercial use.

But no. TEH RADIATIONS keeps the United States from doing this.


I like the idea of putting resources into developing more sustainable and clean power, but I'm not completely okay with doing it over the objections - rational or not - of the people who live there.

One thing that makes me skittish about nuclear is, when you decommission any other kind of plant, you can clean the area up relatively cheaply, even in a densely populated area. The owner goes belly-up, and the public's liability is finite and probably reasonable. With a nuke plant, even if it's well-run from cradle to grave, there are so many more unlimited future liabilities. That, I suspect, more than the worries over a leak, is what holds them back.
 
2013-03-02 12:05:46 AM
We're the only country that doesn't develop energy resources in order to appease a bunch of crying children pretending to be environmentalists.
 
2013-03-02 12:26:39 AM

MisterTweak: BronyMedic: Way to go, you NIMBY idiots. China actually HAS surpassed the United States on something.

[upload.wikimedia.org image 800x449]

Gen III+ reactors are already out in commercial use. Gen IV reactors are as close as we can come with current technology limitations to being safe and mass proliferate without the risk of a nuclear weapon coming from them, and the technology for the systems is already feasible for commercial use.

But no. TEH RADIATIONS keeps the United States from doing this.

I like the idea of putting resources into developing more sustainable and clean power, but I'm not completely okay with doing it over the objections - rational or not - of the people who live there.

One thing that makes me skittish about nuclear is, when you decommission any other kind of plant, you can clean the area up relatively cheaply, even in a densely populated area. The owner goes belly-up, and the public's liability is finite and probably reasonable. With a nuke plant, even if it's well-run from cradle to grave, there are so many more unlimited future liabilities. That, I suspect, more than the worries over a leak, is what holds them back.


the USA has all sorts of manufacturing plants active and dormant that are so toxic and lethal they cannot be destroyed and the land cannot be put to other use. in the past it was easier for huge corporations to turn a blind eye and walk away from their pollution while cancer rates in nearby neighborhoods went sky high. Google and you can find heartbreaking photograph images of many wasteland nuclear sites we do nothing about. the planet pays a great price for mankind's industry, technology and greed. this will end right around the time earth is so thoroughly devastated it can no longer sustain life. meanwhile we can enjoy all these great gadgets and products, most of which we really don't need.
 
2013-03-02 12:26:41 AM

loonatic112358: Lsherm: BronyMedic: Way to go, you NIMBY idiots. China actually HAS surpassed the United States on something.

[upload.wikimedia.org image 800x449]

Gen III+ reactors are already out in commercial use. Gen IV reactors are as close as we can come with current technology limitations to being safe and mass proliferate without the risk of a nuclear weapon coming from them, and the technology for the systems is already feasible for commercial use.

But no. TEH RADIATIONS keeps the United States from doing this.

China doesn't have an EPA.

If their performance with dealing with waste products from coal plants are any indication, this can only end well for the world in the long run.

It'll be china that winds up with the giant monsters going after major cities. I for one bow to our giant panda overlords.


fark, the rain in China is going to kill off the pandas.  Bamboo is mostly water.

A China monster is going to be a cockroach that grows to sizes you wouldn't think possible.  And there will be billions of them.
 
2013-03-02 12:36:39 AM

MisterTweak: One thing that makes me skittish about nuclear is, when you decommission any other kind of plant, you can clean the area up relatively cheaply, even in a densely populated area. The owner goes belly-up, and the public's liability is finite and probably reasonable. With a nuke plant, even if it's well-run from cradle to grave, there are so many more unlimited future liabilities. That, I suspect, more than the worries over a leak, is what holds them back.


Part of the problem is that the technology in use is still most commonly in the Generation II and II+ levels in the United States and Canada, as well as Japan (Fukushima was a Gen 2 reactor built shortly after they came into existance). Very few reactors in the US are Generation III. Generation IV reactors can literally run till there is no more usable nuclear fuel left, and produce less radioactive waste - it's the purpose of their designs. In addition, the way the US does it is completely different than the French, as before mentioned. We generate more waste because we waste more than other countries when it comes to nuclear energy.
 
2013-03-02 12:37:45 AM

KrispyKritter: MisterTweak: BronyMedic: Way to go, you NIMBY idiots. China actually HAS surpassed the United States on something.

[upload.wikimedia.org image 800x449]

Gen III+ reactors are already out in commercial use. Gen IV reactors are as close as we can come with current technology limitations to being safe and mass proliferate without the risk of a nuclear weapon coming from them, and the technology for the systems is already feasible for commercial use.

But no. TEH RADIATIONS keeps the United States from doing this.

I like the idea of putting resources into developing more sustainable and clean power, but I'm not completely okay with doing it over the objections - rational or not - of the people who live there.

One thing that makes me skittish about nuclear is, when you decommission any other kind of plant, you can clean the area up relatively cheaply, even in a densely populated area. The owner goes belly-up, and the public's liability is finite and probably reasonable. With a nuke plant, even if it's well-run from cradle to grave, there are so many more unlimited future liabilities. That, I suspect, more than the worries over a leak, is what holds them back.

the USA has all sorts of manufacturing plants active and dormant that are so toxic and lethal they cannot be destroyed and the land cannot be put to other use. in the past it was easier for huge corporations to turn a blind eye and walk away from their pollution while cancer rates in nearby neighborhoods went sky high. Google and you can find heartbreaking photograph images of many wasteland nuclear sites we do nothing about. the planet pays a great price for mankind's industry, technology and greed. this will end right around the time earth is so thoroughly devastated it can no longer sustain life. meanwhile we can enjoy all these great gadgets and products, most of which we really don't need.


Umm, at Chernobyl there are bacteria that are thriving in the freaking reactor core. I don't think a little heavy metal and some halocarbons are going to destroy the planet.

fark it up in places, yeah. But the earth already does that with little things like volcanoes.
 
2013-03-02 12:40:17 AM
Not that I approve of shiat like triclosan, polybrominated diphenyl ethers, or hexavalent chromium, nor do I care much for the petrochemical industry.
 
2013-03-02 12:44:22 AM

omnibus_necanda_sunt: Not that I approve of shiat like triclosan, polybrominated diphenyl ethers, or hexavalent chromium, nor do I care much for the petrochemical industry.


www.questionsleep.com
 
2013-03-02 12:48:55 AM

paulleah: Reads like an ad for China.


Reddit linked to a different site. per pop China has nothing on Japan and SK in nuke for juice sites
/China is bad for using so much greenhouse gas
//China is bad for using cleaner nuclear power
///China floods the market in Solar panels
\Make up your mind America
 
2013-03-02 12:49:06 AM

BronyMedic: Way to go, you NIMBY idiots. China actually HAS surpassed the United States on something.



Gen III+ reactors are already out in commercial use. Gen IV reactors are as close as we can come with current technology limitations to being safe and mass proliferate without the risk of a nuclear weapon coming from them, and the technology for the systems is already feasible for commercial use.

But no. TEH RADIATIONS keeps the United States from doing this.


BLAH BLAH BLAH NUCLEAR ENERGY BLAH BLAH NO U

FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP
 
2013-03-02 12:49:08 AM

randomjsa: We're the only country that doesn't develop energy resources in order to appease a bunch of crying children pretending to be environmentalists.


Look how dumb you are!

Seriously though, development of nuclear power in the US has very, very little to do with the EPA or environmentalists. It's because they are not cost efficient. It costs way too much to build, insure, maintain, and ultimately decommission a nuke plant. France, China, and a number of other countries get away with it because the government heavily subsidizes the industry almost to the point of it being purely socialized.

So, yeah, you want more nuclear power in the US? SOCIALISMS!!!!
 
2013-03-02 12:54:56 AM

Znuh: omnibus_necanda_sunt: Not that I approve of shiat like triclosan, polybrominated diphenyl ethers, or hexavalent chromium, nor do I care much for the petrochemical industry.

[www.questionsleep.com image 400x282]


por-img.cimcontent.net

/Neither does she.
//Bonus: eyebleach for Toxic Waste Guy.
 
2013-03-02 12:56:55 AM
Augh! That dress! And those shoes! Jeez!
 
2013-03-02 01:03:29 AM

omnibus_necanda_sunt: KrispyKritter:[..] the planet pays a great price for mankind's industry, technology and greed. this will end right around the time earth is so thoroughly devastated it can no longer sustain life. meanwhile we can enjoy all these great gadgets and products, most of which we really don't need.


Umm, at Chernobyl there are bacteria that are thriving in the freaking reactor core. I don't think a little heavy metal and some halocarbons are going to destroy the planet.
fark it up in places, yeah. But the earth already does that with little things like volcanoes.


"The planet is fine. The people are farked"
 
2013-03-02 01:05:47 AM

BronyMedic: But no. TEH RADIATIONS keeps the United States from doing this.


And to think, not more than 100 years ago people thought radiation was a wonderful new thing and they were putting it in toothpaste, clock hands, tonics, and all sorts of things. They loved its magical new luminescent properties.

/and then teh cancer taught them not to do that
 
2013-03-02 01:33:03 AM

BronyMedic: But no. TEH RADIATIONS keeps the United States from doing this.


The US has more nuclear power plants than anywhere else by a large margin. Never let anyone stop them from building them. They create 101,409 megawats of nuclear power, and the only country that even comes close is France at 63,130 megawats.

The reason people aren't so keen on it now is because it's no longer the 50's or 60's, and newer technologies have emerged. People like new things. Especially when they don't produce tons of radioactive waste that's expensive to deal with.
 
2013-03-02 01:39:54 AM
Oh, and by comparison, China only produces 11,816 megawats of nuclear power. It'll take them a long time to catch up. The only reason they're still using nuclear power is because they don't have any of the more modern technology the west is exploring these days.
 
2013-03-02 01:40:47 AM
I guess they aren't going to need American coal after all...
 
2013-03-02 08:19:50 AM

drjekel_mrhyde: paulleah: Reads like an ad for China.

Reddit linked to a different site. per pop China has nothing on Japan and SK in nuke for juice sites
/China is bad for using so much greenhouse gas
//China is bad for using cleaner nuclear power
///China floods the market in Solar panels
\Make up your mind America


~To be clear, China flooded the market with CRAPPY Solar Panels and people picked those over the higher quality ones who were going long and caused them to fold. Then when the Chinese POS's started to fail, there was nothing better to go to.

~China is bad for not using U.S./French/Japanese nuclear engineers to assist them in building their grid up properly.
~China is a farking idiot for not listening to scientists about long term effects of environmental damage corporate America is levying on them for short term gains.
/China doesn't have issues, it has volumes.
 
2013-03-02 08:48:02 AM

BronyMedic: Way to go, you NIMBY idiots. China actually HAS surpassed the United States on something.

[upload.wikimedia.org image 800x449]

Gen III+ reactors are already out in commercial use. Gen IV reactors are as close as we can come with current technology limitations to being safe and mass proliferate without the risk of a nuclear weapon coming from them, and the technology for the systems is already feasible for commercial use.

But no. TEH RADIATIONS keeps the United States from doing this.


Done in one.   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVB0F7kORII

But go ahead with your fear mongering bullshiat, physics is probably broken or lying to you.
 
2013-03-02 09:23:19 AM

Lsherm: If their performance with dealing with waste products from coal plants are any indication, this can only end well for the world in the long run.


Considering the amount of soot, CO2 and other shiat they pump from their 620 coal-fired plants into our shared atmosphere...

pjmedia.com
 
2013-03-02 02:35:27 PM
inventorspot.com

How to lie with statistics - the height reflects the MW output, but they eye sees the increased area which goes up with the square of increase

/Not a big nuclear fan, but lets keep things in perspective
//Perspective? What am i talking about this is Fark
 
2013-03-03 02:36:57 AM
I think we're all suffering from American Syndrome.
 
2013-03-03 03:09:39 AM

mrlewish: Tickle Mittens: Two, yes, flouride or traveling wave reactors burn all the way down to easily managed low level waste products. Which by the way even fusion reactors would have as part of repairs, upgrades or decommissioning.

I don't know why we don't use Fluorine with our fuel (or do we?) It a great element at cleaning stuff up.


Because we poison our drinking water with it instead.
 
2013-03-03 03:11:40 AM
Try to read #10 with a straight face, especially coming from a site named Fark.

/"Hey, we need you to work on the Fuqing Power Plant" "Uhhh, which fuqing plant?" "Yes!"
 
2013-03-03 06:07:50 PM

Lsherm: BronyMedic: Way to go, you NIMBY idiots. China actually HAS surpassed the United States on something.

[upload.wikimedia.org image 800x449]

Gen III+ reactors are already out in commercial use. Gen IV reactors are as close as we can come with current technology limitations to being safe and mass proliferate without the risk of a nuclear weapon coming from them, and the technology for the systems is already feasible for commercial use.

But no. TEH RADIATIONS keeps the United States from doing this.

China doesn't have an EPA.

If their performance with dealing with waste products from coal plants are any indication, this can only end well for the world in the long run.


They do have The Ministry of Environmental Protection.
 
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