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(Huffington Post)   Planned "Sugar Ray" reunion on Carnival Cruise with Spin Doctors, Smashmouth & The Gin Blossoms cancelled, Mark McGrath explains succinctly: "that poop cruise did us no favors"   (huffingtonpost.com) divider line 134
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2013-03-01 02:02:47 PM  
I went to a concert in the summer of 2004. It was a four-band bill of Gin Blossoms, Spin Doctors, Seven Mary Three and Cracker.

I'll never forget the year, because I was 29. And I remember thinking, "Jesus. I'm not even thirty, and my youth is already being repackaged and sold back to me as nostalgia."

It was a really good show, though.
 
2013-03-01 02:03:52 PM  
Sad?

How is this sad?
 
2013-03-01 02:07:12 PM  
CSB: I met Mark McGrath at the Viper Room, I was "that guy", a drunk annoying fan who said hello and told him how smart he was.

This was back when he was on "Rock and Roll Jeopardy" and I really was hoping he was bisexual.
 
2013-03-01 02:07:21 PM  
Carnival is the Sugar Ray of cruise lines.
 
2013-03-01 02:10:08 PM  
Holy shiat, is it 1995 already?

And it's not like the "poop cruise" thing is going to happen again. If anything they're going to be even more diligent than they were before. It's like people who wouldn't go to the movies after the Batman shooting. What are the odds that it's going to happen a second time?

/doesn't understand why anyone would go on a cruise in the first place
 
2013-03-01 02:13:00 PM  
What is Cracker doing playing with these people all the time?
I know they had their big hit around the same time, but musically they're really in a different realm.
 
2013-03-01 02:15:12 PM  
For a poop cruise, you want a band who's going to roll with it. I suggest GWAR.
 
2013-03-01 02:16:46 PM  

GreenAdder: For a poop cruise, you want a band who's going to roll with it. I suggest GWAR.


LOL How about G. G. Allin's corpse?
 
2013-03-01 02:17:52 PM  
I saw  Sugar Ray during Universal's Mardi Gras concert series last year.  On St. Pat's day.

They were really off their game.  Bloody awful.  How you bomb on St. Pat's is anyone's guess.  They weren't that drunk.
 
2013-03-01 02:27:45 PM  
i.cdn.turner.com

"My Daddy said I could play the poop cruise."
 
2013-03-01 02:31:10 PM  
aww... i was so looking forward to the bootleg footage of Cracker

/where the hell is Bill?
 
2013-03-01 02:57:08 PM  
Just reading that list of bands made me feel phantom acne on my face.
 
2013-03-01 03:03:04 PM  

kid_icarus: phantom acne


My new band name.
 
2013-03-01 03:06:09 PM  
He's right -- this cruise would NEVER live up to those standards.
 
2013-03-01 03:24:25 PM  
wow, i would literally chew my own leg off before i would pay to see any of those bands.
 
2013-03-01 03:26:53 PM  

Mugato: Holy shiat, is it 1995 already?

And it's not like the "poop cruise" thing is going to happen again. If anything they're going to be even more diligent than they were before. It's like people who wouldn't go to the movies after the Batman shooting. What are the odds that it's going to happen a second time?

/doesn't understand why anyone would go on a cruise in the first place


The poop cruise thing... that is one of a number of "bad" things that can go wrong because you are on a floating island a long way away from anyone to help you.... but, I agree, in that case, they'll put more 'precautions" in place to make sure it doesn't happen again.  Of course, you can never say never, but, for the most part, they are in control of that.

The Batman shooting thing... while you can't go around in life worrying about that, because, it can happen anywhere... a school, a movie theatre, a shopping center, wherever there is a close crowd of people.... do you really think there has been "that much" by theatre's to really prevent that from happening again?   The only thing affecting the odds of that happening again is whether there is another crazy person out there ready to do it.
 
2013-03-01 03:35:20 PM  

dletter: Mugato: Holy shiat, is it 1995 already?

And it's not like the "poop cruise" thing is going to happen again. If anything they're going to be even more diligent than they were before. It's like people who wouldn't go to the movies after the Batman shooting. What are the odds that it's going to happen a second time?

/doesn't understand why anyone would go on a cruise in the first place

The poop cruise thing... that is one of a number of "bad" things that can go wrong because you are on a floating island a long way away from anyone to help you.... but, I agree, in that case, they'll put more 'precautions" in place to make sure it doesn't happen again.  Of course, you can never say never, but, for the most part, they are in control of that.

The Batman shooting thing... while you can't go around in life worrying about that, because, it can happen anywhere... a school, a movie theatre, a shopping center, wherever there is a close crowd of people.... do you really think there has been "that much" by theatre's to really prevent that from happening again?   The only thing affecting the odds of that happening again is whether there is another crazy person out there ready to do it.


It freaks people out whenever they're reminded that they could be picked off at random at any given time. You could be lying in the safety of your own bed and a farking sink hole opens up and the earth swallows you. A lady in my town was ran over and killed yesterday after a car crashed through the restaurant she was in. Or even worse...you could be stuck on a boat with Sugar Ray, pits deep in shiat.
 
2013-03-01 03:39:15 PM  

dletter: Mugato: Holy shiat, is it 1995 already?

And it's not like the "poop cruise" thing is going to happen again. If anything they're going to be even more diligent than they were before. It's like people who wouldn't go to the movies after the Batman shooting. What are the odds that it's going to happen a second time?

/doesn't understand why anyone would go on a cruise in the first place

The poop cruise thing... that is one of a number of "bad" things that can go wrong because you are on a floating island a long way away from anyone to help you.... but, I agree, in that case, they'll put more 'precautions" in place to make sure it doesn't happen again.  Of course, you can never say never, but, for the most part, they are in control of that.


No amount of precautions will ever fix the #1 problem with cruises: The fact that you're spending your vacation stuck on a cruise ship with the kind of people who go on cruises. That problem is built right into the experience.

Even when not stranded at sea, I've always imagined that cruise ships smell like the ball pits at a McDonald's Play Place doused with dirty mop water and hep C.
 
2013-03-01 03:43:42 PM  

SlothB77: Carnival is the Sugar Ray of cruise lines.


I LOLed.
 
2013-03-01 03:45:23 PM  

sigdiamond2000: Even when not stranded at sea, I've always imagined that cruise ships smell like the ball pits at a McDonald's Play Place doused with dirty mop water and hep C.


Don't forget that nice dose of Old Spice and Ralph Lauren as a heady odor above all that
 
2013-03-01 03:48:11 PM  
Pretty sure you would have to pay me to go on a cruise with those four bands performing.  Man overboard!
 
2013-03-01 03:49:24 PM  

Diogenes: I saw  Sugar Ray during Universal's Mardi Gras concert series last year.  On St. Pat's day.

They were really off their game.  Bloody awful.  How you bomb on St. Pat's is anyone's guess.  They weren't that drunk.


Based on what I saw when Sugar Ray played at U of Maryland way back when, sounds like they were absolutely on their game, their game is just farking horrible.

And he said "thank you Baltimore".  Though I guess when you're having an orgy with every slut on campus in your tour bus it's hard to know where you are.
 
2013-03-01 03:49:49 PM  
Down the reality show highway y'all go ...
 
2013-03-01 03:50:18 PM  
I'd pack a box of Depends and jump of a boat to go see the Spin Doctors.
 
2013-03-01 03:50:31 PM  
I cannot imagine the hell that would be being stuck on a boat with the douches who like those bands.
 
2013-03-01 03:52:09 PM  

sigdiamond2000: No amount of precautions will ever fix the #1 problem with cruises: The fact that you're spending your vacation stuck on a cruise ship with the kind of people who go on cruises. That problem is built right into the experience.


Winner winner chicken dinner.
 
2013-03-01 03:52:46 PM  
Excuses are just sh*tty reasons.

Bad sh*t happens all the time. If we stopped having concerts after bad things happen there would have never been another one since that Altamont concert. Many more examples as well.

Weak.
 
2013-03-01 03:54:23 PM  
1)  Mark McGrath was pretty cool on Jay Mohr' podcast some time ago.  he took pokes at himself/his band, like, "yeah, we're on the 'state fair'/'indian casino' level of fame, but, hey man, that pays enough to where that's my fulltime gig.  I get paid to sing songs.  make fun of where we play, but don't make fun of my job!"

2)  hard to believe GB's career hit the skids after they fired the guy that wrote basically all of "NME".

/old high school friend said he kinda knew the GBs juuuuuuuuuuuust before they got big.  he was friends with Dead Hot Workshop / 24 Hour World  and several other of the "next big thing" bands, and I somewhat recall him saying he'd met Doug and some of the other guys rigth before they exploded.  dunno. lost touch with him.
//although about the last time we hung out, he had a party at his house and the lead guy from the Dead Hots was the entertainment.
////no one knows what i'm talking about
//what else is new
 
2013-03-01 03:54:34 PM  
Mrs_Fabulous went to high school with the singer/songwriter for the Gin Blossoms. Says he was a nice enough guy, back in the day.
 
2013-03-01 03:56:10 PM  

rickythepenguin: /old high school friend said he kinda knew the GBs juuuuuuuuuuuust before they got big


Wow. Bet he knows my wife. Did he go to Coronado HS?
 
2013-03-01 03:56:10 PM  

rickythepenguin:
////no one (really) knows what i'm talking about


that's alright, my name's Yauch.
 
2013-03-01 03:57:40 PM  

Mugato: Holy shiat, is it 1995 already?

And it's not like the "poop cruise" thing is going to happen again. If anything they're going to be even more diligent than they were before. It's like people who wouldn't go to the movies after the Batman shooting. What are the odds that it's going to happen a second time?


That doesn't mean that the Carnival name isn't going to take a hit for awhile. You DO understand how this works, right?

/doesn't understand why anyone would go on a cruise in the first place

What's not to understand? 1st class food(All you can eat), 1st class service, lots of interesting stuff to see, lots of stuff to do on the ship, plenty of time to just relax and have drinks, read a book, boink your significant other, etc... We went about 6 years ago, and it is probably one of the best trips of my entire life.

Now if you were wondering why someone would travel via Carnival, THAT I can understand. We went Royal Caribbean, and I'll never cruise with another company again, unless I get the money to take a small cruise, where there are 60 or so people on board. I've heard that Carnival is more like the WalMart of cruise lines, and Disney is more like Romper Room.
 
2013-03-01 03:57:41 PM  
♫ Hey Geritol ♫
 
2013-03-01 03:57:58 PM  

Yanks_RSJ: And he said "thank you Baltimore". Though I guess when you're having an orgy with every slut on campus in your tour bus it's hard to know where you are.


ive told this story 7,792 times here before but i saw the Flaming Lips open for Beck in tempe, and wayne is like, "wow, it's great to be back in Salt Lake City!"

a low roar starts to form, and Wayne is like, "wiat, no, i mean, we were in Salt Lake City yesterday, and....I know we're not there."  the crowd isn't buying it, peeople start booing.  he's like, "i mean, our bus broke down, we just got in late, it's great to be in, uh......It's great to be in, uh.......are we in.....Phoenix?"   now the crowd is in full boo.  and then he throws the band into "Race For The Prize" to start the show.
 
2013-03-01 03:58:09 PM  

MaxxLarge: I went to a concert in the summer of 2004. It was a four-band bill of Gin Blossoms, Spin Doctors, Seven Mary Three and Cracker.

I'll never forget the year, because I was 29. And I remember thinking, "Jesus. I'm not even thirty, and my youth is already being repackaged and sold back to me as nostalgia."

It was a really good show, though.


Did you have drunken porta-potty sex or something? With those band we know it wasn't a really good show for the music .
 
2013-03-01 03:58:45 PM  

FlashHarry: wow, i would literally chew my own leg off before i would pay to see any of those bands.


Even worse, being around people who love those bands.
 
2013-03-01 03:59:36 PM  
I'd say it was an appropriate line up for the cruise line that features guy ferry's burger place as a featured restaurant.

/also the poop thing
 
2013-03-01 04:00:11 PM  

LarryDan43: FlashHarry: wow, i would literally chew my own leg off before i would pay to see any of those bands.

Even worse, being around people who love those bands.


But we were going to shut off the toilets on you and then put poo in the food.
 
2013-03-01 04:00:12 PM  

sigdiamond2000: Even when not stranded at sea, I've always imagined that cruise ships smell like the ball pits at a McDonald's Play Place doused with dirty mop water and hep C.


You should stop imagining then... The cruise I went on had no phantom smells, no issues at all.
 
2013-03-01 04:00:23 PM  

Mr_Fabulous: Wow. Bet he knows my wife. Did he go to Coronado HS?


no, but you were in our conference back in the day when there were only about a dozen or so high schools.  coronado, arcadia, saguaro, cactus, and i think tempe were our conference.  i dragged my nuts all over your soccer field and track.

/coronado dons?  conquistadors?  coronado bulls?
 
2013-03-01 04:00:43 PM  
I don't know, i had a blast on the cruise I went on. Yeah its everything everyone biatches about in these threads but I still enjoyed it.
 
2013-03-01 04:01:41 PM  

rickythepenguin: Yanks_RSJ: And he said "thank you Baltimore". Though I guess when you're having an orgy with every slut on campus in your tour bus it's hard to know where you are.

ive told this story 7,792 times here before but i saw the Flaming Lips open for Beck in tempe, and wayne is like, "wow, it's great to be back in Salt Lake City!"



I don't even remember the show (whoa) but it was at Starlight in KC MO and David Grisman came out and said "Hello, St. Louis."

BOOOOs and FUs were heard.

/now, I gotta check my ticket stub collection to remember what show he would have been at
 
2013-03-01 04:02:37 PM  

Yanks_RSJ: And he said "thank you Baltimore".


"Thank you, Bonnarroo!!!"

-- Dean Ween, at Lollapalooza 2011

/laughed my ass off
 
2013-03-01 04:03:01 PM  

Yanks_RSJ: Diogenes: I saw  Sugar Ray during Universal's Mardi Gras concert series last year.  On St. Pat's day.

They were really off their game.  Bloody awful.  How you bomb on St. Pat's is anyone's guess.  They weren't that drunk.

Based on what I saw when Sugar Ray played at U of Maryland way back when, sounds like they were absolutely on their game, their game is just farking horrible.

And he said "thank you Baltimore".  Though I guess when you're having an orgy with every slut on campus in your tour bus it's hard to know where you are.


Your sluts don't come with GPS or RF tags?  Weak.
 
2013-03-01 04:04:46 PM  
At least now they can get back to the studio and work on their comeback album.
 
2013-03-01 04:05:57 PM  

rickythepenguin: Mr_Fabulous: Wow. Bet he knows my wife. Did he go to Coronado HS?

no, but you were in our conference back in the day when there were only about a dozen or so high schools.  coronado, arcadia, saguaro, cactus, and i think tempe were our conference.  i dragged my nuts all over your soccer field and track.

/coronado dons?  conquistadors?  coronado bulls?


A. It's the Dons. I think.

B. I didn't go to school there. I grew up in Georgia. Met the wife in grad school.
 
2013-03-01 04:06:11 PM  
So.. what were the advance ticket sales for the event looking like?

Are they saying that bookings for the event dried up when the poop cruise happened? or did they not sell enough tickets and are blaming the poop cruise?


I've never been on a cruise, but I'm not opposed to having the experience. I just think that if I ever were to take one, I woulf avoid Carnival at all costs.
 
2013-03-01 04:09:16 PM  
Yeah, I have been on two Royal Caribbean cruises and had a great time. Getting drunk in the middle of the ocean and my wife winning a grand on a poker machine and the second cruise winning about 1200 on slotto was kick ass.
 
2013-03-01 04:12:07 PM  

dletter: ... do you really think there has been "that much" by theatre's to really prevent that from happening again? The only thing affecting the odds of that happening again is whether there is another crazy person out there ready to do it.


Okay, maybe you're thinking about the copycat possibility but even so, even if you don't restrict it to just Batman films, how many screenings are there around the country each day? I'm not going to research and do the math but I'm guessing it's in the big numbers. Even if there was a shooting a day, your chances of getting hit by a monkey driving a bus would be higher than getting gunned down by some psycho gunman. And even if you were in a theater with a shooting, only a few people will get killed and if you survive, you get a meet and greet with the star of the film of whatever movie you were trying to see. You should be so lucky.

Mikey1969: What's not to understand? 1st class food(All you can eat), 1st class service, lots of interesting stuff to see, lots of stuff to do on the ship, plenty of time to just relax and have drinks, read a book, boink your significant other, etc... We went about 6 years ago, and it is probably one of the best trips of my entire life.


Fair enough. My dad and his new wife loves them. Doesn't sound like anything I couldn't do at a hotel but whatever. My gf is a claustrophobic so I know if we were in on the "poop ship" incident we'd just jump ship and they'd have no choice but to helicopter-rescue us. I don't know why no one else thought of that.
 
2013-03-01 04:16:47 PM  

rickythepenguin: Yanks_RSJ: And he said "thank you Baltimore". Though I guess when you're having an orgy with every slut on campus in your tour bus it's hard to know where you are.

ive told this story 7,792 times here before but i saw the Flaming Lips open for Beck in tempe, and wayne is like, "wow, it's great to be back in Salt Lake City!"

a low roar starts to form, and Wayne is like, "wiat, no, i mean, we were in Salt Lake City yesterday, and....I know we're not there."  the crowd isn't buying it, peeople start booing.  he's like, "i mean, our bus broke down, we just got in late, it's great to be in, uh......It's great to be in, uh.......are we in.....Phoenix?"   now the crowd is in full boo.  and then he throws the band into "Race For The Prize" to start the show.


I wish I could find the video for Southwest Airlines:

"Thank you Detroit!  We love you!"

(silence)

"Detroit was last night".
 
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