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2013-03-01 01:59:47 PM
I suspect the Russian Wolfhound.
 
2013-03-01 02:02:54 PM

OtherLittleGuy: I suspect the Russian Wolfhound.


Nonsense! The wolfhound is a sighthound. The Shar Pei looks more suspicious to me. Just look at those eyes...
 
2013-03-01 02:06:07 PM
Never trust the guy with two left feet.

i218.photobucket.com
 
2013-03-01 02:28:09 PM
FTA:

"The timeline adds up. There's no other scenario we can come up with other than poison," she said.

Asked if she thought it was intentional, she said: "I don't think we'll ever know."


No, you stupid farkwad.  You would know exactly for sure what happened if you spent the money to get a necropsy/toxicology screen.
 
2013-03-01 02:50:52 PM
Thank Vishnu it wasn't another sex tape scandal
 
2013-03-01 02:53:32 PM
Punny headline subby.  Took me 2 looks to see it.
 
2013-03-01 03:20:44 PM
Did she have the dog insured? I think this is relevant information. (Can you insure a dog?)
 
2013-03-01 03:31:43 PM

kid_icarus: Did she have the dog insured? I think this is relevant information. (Can you insure a dog?)


That was my first thought. And yes you can insure a dog, and a top tier show dog would be insured for quite a tidy sum, probably.
 
2013-03-01 03:39:02 PM
It boggles my mind she didn't get an autopsy.  She isn't a licensed professional and nobody is going to take her word for it.  If she is so sure the dog was poisoned, then get the autopsy so that it is definitively proven.  Then you have hard evidence to back up your claims.
 
2013-03-01 03:40:52 PM

namegoeshere: kid_icarus: Did she have the dog insured? I think this is relevant information. (Can you insure a dog?)

That was my first thought. And yes you can insure a dog, and a top tier show dog would be insured for quite a tidy sum, probably.


Hmm...the refusal to have an autopsy...the asinine accusation aimed at animal rights groups...something stinks here.
 
2013-03-01 03:45:08 PM
The veterinarian who treated Cruz, Molly Comiskey, told the Times: "Dogs are dogs. It's not anyone's fault. They eat stuff; they get into things; they make bad decisions." - See more at: http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/owner-dog-that-died-in-colorado- m ay-have-been-poisoned-at-westminster-dog-show#sthash.sk1MbC1v.dpuf FT FA:  They (dogs) make bad decisions.
The veterinarian who treated Cruz, Molly Comiskey, told the Times: "Dogs are dogs. It's not anyone's fault. They eat stuff; they get into things; they make bad decisions." - See more at: http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/owner-dog-that-died-in-colorado- m ay-have-been-poisoned-at-westminster-dog-show#sthash.sk1MbC1v.dpuf

WUT?
The veterinarian who treated Cruz, Molly Comiskey, told the Times: "Dogs are dogs. It's not anyone's fault. They eat stuff; they get into things; they make bad decisions." - See more at: http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/owner-dog-that-died-in-colorado- m ay-have-been-poisoned-at-westminster-dog-show#sthash.sk1MbC1v.dpuf
 
2013-03-01 03:46:09 PM

blatz514: The veterinarian who treated Cruz, Molly Comiskey, told the Times: "Dogs are dogs. It's not anyone's fault. They eat stuff; they get into things; they make bad decisions." - See more at: http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/owner-dog-that-died-in-colorado- m ay-have-been-poisoned-at-westminster-dog-show#sthash.sk1MbC1v.dpuf FT FA:  They (dogs) make bad decisions.
The veterinarian who treated Cruz, Molly Comiskey, told the Times: "Dogs are dogs. It's not anyone's fault. They eat stuff; they get into things; they make bad decisions." - See more at: http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/owner-dog-that-died-in-colorado- m ay-have-been-poisoned-at-westminster-dog-show#sthash.sk1MbC1v.dpuf

WUT?
The veterinarian who treated Cruz, Molly Comiskey, told the Times: "Dogs are dogs. It's not anyone's fault. They eat stuff; they get into things; they make bad decisions." - See more at: http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/owner-dog-that-died-in-colorado- m ay-have-been-poisoned-at-westminster-dog-show#sthash.sk1MbC1v.dpuf


Well, looky at that post.  That's a first for me.
 
2013-03-01 03:50:35 PM

PainInTheASP: Never trust the guy with two left feet.

[i218.photobucket.com image 627x350]


One of the funniest movies of all time.

ALL TIME
 
2013-03-01 03:51:47 PM
The 137th Westminster drew 2,721 purebred entries. Cruz, one of 33 Samoyeds list in the show, did not win any ribbons in the best of breed judging.

That sounds like a failure to me.  Perhaps the dog took its own life.  Sleeping pills and alcohol.

/No, not barbthebiatchyouate, you sick puppy.
 
2013-03-01 03:53:49 PM

PainInTheASP: Never trust the guy with two left feet.

[i218.photobucket.com image 627x350]


THIS!

/To think in some countries these dogs are eaten
 
2013-03-01 03:55:14 PM

hb0mb: FTA:

"The timeline adds up. There's no other scenario we can come up with other than poison," she said.

Asked if she thought it was intentional, she said: "I don't think we'll ever know."


No, you stupid farkwad.  You would know exactly for sure what happened if you spent the money to get a necropsy/toxicology screen.


Yeah, but what kind of idiot would spend that kind of money on a dog ?
 
2013-03-01 03:55:29 PM
i78.photobucket.com
 
2013-03-01 03:55:41 PM

mafiageek1980: PainInTheASP: Never trust the guy with two left feet.

[i218.photobucket.com image 627x350]

THIS!

/To think in some countries these dogs are eaten


Do dogs from other countries understand each other?
 
2013-03-01 03:56:59 PM
If it is indeed poison, that's a whole new level beyond "mustache-twirlingly evil". Someone must be taking these competitions way too serious.
 
2013-03-01 03:59:12 PM

namegoeshere: kid_icarus: Did she have the dog insured? I think this is relevant information. (Can you insure a dog?)

That was my first thought. And yes you can insure a dog, and a top tier show dog would be insured for quite a tidy sum, probably.


Elementary, my dear dachshund, after taking paws to reflect on it all, the owner's murder of her own show dog is the only reasonable conclusion.

/Sherlock Bones
 
2013-03-01 03:59:17 PM
Kinda late to the game aren't you Fark?  This has been national news for at least 3 days now.

/welcome to frak
 
2013-03-01 04:02:28 PM
no necropsy? then STFU. stupid woman.

/ sorry doggie died.
 
2013-03-01 04:04:11 PM
That's sad, but it could have been something else like renal failure. I've lost two cats to renal failure, one had eaten rat poison but with the other one, there was no specific cause. It was one of those things that just happens. If it was me, I would've had the necropsy done to know for sure.

Also, gonna call bullshiat on PETA's statement, but that's a given.

But PETA co-founder and president Ingrid Newkirk said "it makes no sense whatsoever" that an animal rights activist would harm an animal.
"It's a fantasy, it's a fallacy," she told the AP by phone Thursday night. "How dare you point a finger and cast aspersions when you haven't a clue."
- See more at: http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/owner-dog-that-died-in-colorado- m ay-have-been-poisoned-at-westminster-dog-show#sthash.lcpf58D7.dpuf
But PETA co-founder and president Ingrid Newkirk said "it makes no sense whatsoever" that an animal rights activist would harm an animal.
"It's a fantasy, it's a fallacy," she told the AP by phone Thursday night. "How dare you point a finger and cast aspersions when you haven't a clue."
- See more at: http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/owner-dog-that-died-in-colorado- m ay-have-been-poisoned-at-westminster-dog-show#sthash.lcpf58D7.dpufBut PETA co-founder and president Ingrid Newkirk said "it makes no sense whatsoever" that an animal rights activist would harm an animal.
"It's a fantasy, it's a fallacy," she told the AP by phone Thursday night. "How dare you point a finger and cast aspersions when you haven't a clue."
- See more at: http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/owner-dog-that-died-in-colorado- m ay-have-been-poisoned-at-westminster-dog-show#sthash.lcpf58D7.dpuf
 
2013-03-01 04:05:34 PM
Well it seems the internet gremlins got to me... nothing showed up when I tried to paste in the article quote, but then *bam* there it is. Three times.
 
2013-03-01 04:05:59 PM
something something Westminster inbreds something something
 
2013-03-01 04:06:55 PM

blatz514: blatz514: The veterinarian who treated Cruz, Molly Comiskey, told the Times: "Dogs are dogs. It's not anyone's fault. They eat stuff; they get into things; they make bad decisions." - See more at: http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/owner-dog-that-died-in-colorado- m ay-have-been-poisoned-at-westminster-dog-show#sthash.sk1MbC1v.dpuf FT FA:  They (dogs) make bad decisions.
The veterinarian who treated Cruz, Molly Comiskey, told the Times: "Dogs are dogs. It's not anyone's fault. They eat stuff; they get into things; they make bad decisions." - See more at: http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/owner-dog-that-died-in-colorado- m ay-have-been-poisoned-at-westminster-dog-show#sthash.sk1MbC1v.dpuf

WUT?
The veterinarian who treated Cruz, Molly Comiskey, told the Times: "Dogs are dogs. It's not anyone's fault. They eat stuff; they get into things; they make bad decisions." - See more at: http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/owner-dog-that-died-in-colorado- m ay-have-been-poisoned-at-westminster-dog-show#sthash.sk1MbC1v.dpuf

Well, looky at that post.  That's a first for me.


What is it, boy? Whatcha tryin' to tell us, boy?
 
2013-03-01 04:10:53 PM
This was definitely not a Min Pin. Too smart to eat bad stuff; too happy to commit suicide.

/Min Pins. The happy little goose-stepping Prussians of the dog show circuit
 
2013-03-01 04:14:14 PM
www.nippertown.com
 
2013-03-01 04:14:25 PM
temeez.com
 
2013-03-01 04:14:34 PM

KellyKellyKelly: blatz514: blatz514: The veterinarian who treated Cruz, Molly Comiskey, told the Times: "Dogs are dogs. It's not anyone's fault. They eat stuff; they get into things; they make bad decisions." - See more at: http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/owner-dog-that-died-in-colorado- m ay-have-been-poisoned-at-westminster-dog-show#sthash.sk1MbC1v.dpuf FT FA:  They (dogs) make bad decisions.
The veterinarian who treated Cruz, Molly Comiskey, told the Times: "Dogs are dogs. It's not anyone's fault. They eat stuff; they get into things; they make bad decisions." - See more at: http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/owner-dog-that-died-in-colorado- m ay-have-been-poisoned-at-westminster-dog-show#sthash.sk1MbC1v.dpuf

WUT?
The veterinarian who treated Cruz, Molly Comiskey, told the Times: "Dogs are dogs. It's not anyone's fault. They eat stuff; they get into things; they make bad decisions." - See more at: http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/owner-dog-that-died-in-colorado- m ay-have-been-poisoned-at-westminster-dog-show#sthash.sk1MbC1v.dpuf

Well, looky at that post.  That's a first for me.

What is it, boy? Whatcha tryin' to tell us, boy?


Sounds like trouble down at the old mill.
 
2013-03-01 04:15:49 PM
Well, looky at that post.  That's a first for me.

What is it, boy? Whatcha tryin' to tell us, boy?


My initial post was to say this:

They (dogs) make bad decisions

Then I was going to say.

Wow, dogs running into the street and getting hit by cars is a very reasonable decision.

Then the evil Fark post comments section fisted me.
 
2013-03-01 04:17:30 PM
I feel so very bad for laughing at that headline.
 
2013-03-01 04:20:12 PM

blatz514: ... #sthash.sk1MbC1v.dpuf

I should be in the kitchen: ...  #sthash.lcpf58D7.dpuf



A tracking hash to boot. That's more evil than tynt used to be.
 
2013-03-01 04:20:44 PM

ArcadianRefugee: hb0mb: No, you stupid farkwad.  You would know exactly for sure what happened if you spent the money to get a necropsy/toxicology screen.

Yeah, but what kind of idiot would spend that kind of money on a dog ?



I work for the AKC and you wouldn't believe the kind of money the top dogs are worth. Some of them have five different owners. Six and seven figure dogs are not uncommon.  They're like racehorses, that can produce young by the litter. Puppies from highly-awarded biatch/sire combinations are worth 5-figures.

A virile male can impregnate several dozen biatches a year and command thousands of dollars each time.

/ laughed the first time I heard a little old lady ask a customer "who owns this biatch!?"
 
2013-03-01 04:22:14 PM

SlothB77: It boggles my mind she didn't get an autopsy.  She isn't a licensed professional and nobody is going to take her word for it.  If she is so sure the dog was poisoned, then get the autopsy so that it is definitively proven.  Then you have hard evidence to back up your claims.


Yup.  It was at that point in the article where she lost my sympathy and it makes me wonder about her involvement.  Who wouldn't get an autopsy on an expensive show dog that you think was poisoned at a major show?
 
2013-03-01 04:25:35 PM

PainInTheASP: Never trust the guy with two left feet.

[i218.photobucket.com image 627x350]


came for the guest reference, leaving happy
 
2013-03-01 04:27:19 PM
That "don't point a finger" quote sounds mighty testy for someone who's spent their lives trolling the fark out of the rest of the world.
 
2013-03-01 04:30:26 PM
"She said that while there was no evidence foul play was involved, certain symptoms were consistent with dogs that ingest rat or mouse poison. That was the reason she said she decided against a necropsy"

Horsehiate.  The reason to not do a necropsy would be if the cause of death were obvious - decapitation, crushed torso, rapid loss of blood, etc.  A few signs of poisoning, as determined by a person who's credentials end and begin at being able to get dogs to fark and being able to cut a dog's hair?  That is PRECISELY the BEST reason to do a necropsy.  Not the other way around.
 
2013-03-01 04:32:39 PM
"Dogs make bad decisions"
??????

Dogs, like middle-school boys, don't make ANY decisions. Especially about food.
 
2013-03-01 04:33:03 PM

SovietCanuckistan: mafiageek1980: PainInTheASP: Never trust the guy with two left feet.

[i218.photobucket.com image 627x350]

THIS!

/To think in some countries these dogs are eaten

Do dogs from other countries understand each other?


I went to one of those obedience places once... it was all going well until they spilled hot candle wax on my private parts
 
2013-03-01 04:34:38 PM
Meh, it's been done.
 
2013-03-01 04:34:48 PM
*announcer*

Next up in the Working Dog category we have a lovely samoyed named Cru..*thud*...er, um next up in the Recently Retired Dog category we have a lovely samoyed named Cruz.
 
2013-03-01 04:38:53 PM
TFA
But PETA co-founder and president Ingrid Newkirk said "it makes no sense whatsoever" that an animal rights activist would harm an animal


4.bp.blogspot.com
Oh rly?
 
2013-03-01 04:39:29 PM
And people say cat people are crazy....wtf

RIP poor pooch.
 
2013-03-01 04:42:38 PM
I should be in the kitchen:
Also, gonna call bullshiat on PETA's statement, but that's a given.


glad i'm not the only one who caught that.
is she serious with that nonsense?

i guess that 97% kill rate doesn't count as "harming an animal?"

God I hate PETA
 
2013-03-01 04:43:03 PM
I think the guilty party should really face charges, but it makes sense, him being a cop and all.
i.imgur.com
 
2013-03-01 04:49:32 PM

robbiex0r: I think the guilty party should really face charges, but it makes sense, him being a cop and all.
[i.imgur.com image 850x435]


that's a big part of why we got rid of our alarm-service.... i'd rather get robbed than some cop shoot my dog because it barks and growls, when get this - somebody comes charging in the house
 
2013-03-01 04:55:25 PM
That was the reason she said she decided against a necropsy -- an autopsy for animals.

"The timeline adds up. There's no other scenario we can come up with other than poison," she said.

Asked if she thought it was intentional, she said: "I don't think we'll ever know.
" da da da daaaaaaaaa . . . .

You madam are a moron.  I had a necropsy done on my dead 8' Rosy Tail Boa.  Just to see if there was an illness or something else.   It was cardiac arrest thankyouverymuch.

Madam, YOU should not be responsible for handling dogs or children.  Had you allowed one done then you could have cast aspersions.  Until such time I suggest you shut your trap.
 
2013-03-01 04:59:00 PM

Pangea: ArcadianRefugee: hb0mb: No, you stupid farkwad.  You would know exactly for sure what happened if you spent the money to get a necropsy/toxicology screen.

Yeah, but what kind of idiot would spend that kind of money on a dog ?


I work for the AKC and you wouldn't believe the kind of money the top dogs are worth. Some of them have five different owners. Six and seven figure dogs are not uncommon.  They're like racehorses, that can produce young by the litter. Puppies from highly-awarded biatch/sire combinations are worth 5-figures.

A virile male can impregnate several dozen biatches a year and command thousands of dollars each time.

/ laughed the first time I heard a little old lady ask a customer "who owns this biatch!?"


You work for the AKC, huh? Any qualms about the unethical breeding practices of your members? Because I'd find it really hard to work for an organisation that is contributing to the genetic downfall of so many breeds of dog...
 
2013-03-01 04:59:17 PM
Cruz, play dead

*plop*

good boy.  Wow, you really sold that one.  Ok, Cruz, up!  Cruz?  Up!  Boy?  Didn't you hear me?  Up!  Cruz?!?

Noooooooooooooooooo!!!

/aisle seat, smoking, please
//was going to house sit for a friend's family while they went on christmas vacation to ski resort.  at last minute, his mom took the job.  Their beloved boxer Rocky died the day after they left.  Don't want to sound selfish but boy was I glad I didn't have to make that phone call and tell them.
 
2013-03-01 05:06:14 PM

kid_icarus: Did she have the dog insured? I think this is relevant information. (Can you insure a dog?)




Our dog is insured, but he is an aide dog. 1500$ to purchase and 5k to train. Great dog, just a little derpy when he's not working.
 
2013-03-01 05:11:49 PM
So, she thinks poisoning is POSSIBLE, so that was enough for her to treat the situation as if it WAS poisoning and not have an autopsy performed? What a moron and what a waste of ink. It's as if she turned down the autopsy because she was afraid it might prove there's no story worthy of attention here.
 
2013-03-01 05:17:40 PM
Good God what a grandstanding coont, she decides against a necropsy and then is shouting "poison!" to anyone who wants to listen?

If I were the reporter the moment she said "Oh... I decided against a necropsy" I'd have responded with "Okay... I think we're done here." put away my notepad and walked out.

Rumors and made up nonsense is not news.

My neighbors ordered a necropsy on the death of their dog. It was natural causes but they just wanted to know what happened. Now they know why, and it helped them get past the loss.
 
2013-03-01 05:26:46 PM
So it was the person who had the second best dog i presume?
 
2013-03-01 05:36:34 PM
Hath no farker a sammy?  Any good sammy stories in honor of Cruz (and not his idiot owner).

First time a friend of mine was over my house (I had one when I was a boy) he may have heard the dog barking a bit, then come in through the dog door.  Dog door=1'x1', dog=roughly 2' diameter of fluff, the look on his face was priceless (I guess most others didn't see the dog first coming through the dog door).  Little known facts about sammies:

They can violate the conservation of mass.  Sammies can shed arbitrarily large amounts of fluff without losing any mass
This is an attempt to reproduce by budding.  Brush a sammy that is shedding long enough and you will have another sammy.
Once you have brushed a new sammy from the old one, you may be able to feel a dog underneath all that fur.   This is the only time you will be sure it isn't really fur all the way down (the new one is, of course, fur all the way down until it grows a bit).
Do not start any obesity treatments until first taking your sammy to a lake (they will rush in like a lab, but oddly will avoid swimming).  Don't take your eyes off you sammy or you will be wondering where your sammy is and why there is a white goat bothering you.
A sammy was one of the dogs seen here:  http://www.fark.com/comments/7532789/Dog-owners-wearing-clothes-made- w ith-fur-of-their-dogs 4 sweaters were produced each shedding season and the sammy wasn't harmed at all.
 
2013-03-01 05:41:09 PM
Sammy's are, in addition, particularly prone to bad decision-making (along with American Eskimo Dogs and Pomeranians).
 
2013-03-01 05:41:19 PM
So, if I'm reading TFA right, her dog died, from something that maybe LOOKED like poison, but she has 0 evidence to support her claim and when given a chance to have the dogs corpse looked at by a vet, where poisoning could have been proven, she declined. So ..in a nutshell, this article proves nothing but someone sad that their dog died and pulled a random cause of death out of her ass.
 
2013-03-01 05:47:43 PM
I suspect it was the German Shepherd, you know how those Germans are still bitter about that whole Russia/WWII thingy.

/Somebody should check to make sure the Canaan wasn't poisoned either
 
2013-03-01 05:49:07 PM
Those biatches play for keeps
/probably already done by I dont care
 
2013-03-01 05:49:36 PM
I find the whole thing fishy. Reasons not to get a necropsy on a young champion stud dog? You think he was poisoned? Couldn't be that you have a freezer full of his sperm for sale and would never sell another vial if he dropped dead from natural causes. That would mean that you have an incentive to make up a story explaining the early death that still allows you to collect money.

/nothing to see here folks...
//I said good day!
 
2013-03-01 05:52:16 PM
Sucks. I had a dog poisoned via Strychnine. Very violent death. I would not wish this on anyone's pet.
 
2013-03-01 05:57:25 PM
I suspect she knows exactly what killed the dog.

The Westminster dog show was a few days before it died. She actually had it at different shows in between Westminster and when it died, and she refused to do the autopsy (necropsy, whatever) to establish the cause of death definitively. Instead she makes a bunch of wild speculation aimed at only the most high profile event the dog was at in the days before its death - and not any of the others.


I think she killed the dog. Insurance money, attention, whatever... If anything I think she's the most likely culprit and her behavior speaks to that.
 
2013-03-01 05:59:56 PM

RealFarknMcCoy2: You work for the AKC, huh? Any qualms about the unethical breeding practices of your members? Because I'd find it really hard to work for an organisation that is contributing to the genetic downfall of so many breeds of dog...


You clearly already know all the details about every registered American dog club and accredited breeder, and are fully versed on all of the outreach and rehabilitation programs we offer. Not to mention the extensive training all judges go through in order to detect subtle signs of mistreatment of the animals.

Dog breeds have been cultivated over thousands of years for specific purposes. We didn't invent that. We catalog and document adherence to a clearly defined breed standard. I'm not going to spend my Friday evening trying to enlighten you because you're not worth my time.
 
2013-03-01 06:12:59 PM

ArcadianRefugee: hb0mb: FTA:

"The timeline adds up. There's no other scenario we can come up with other than poison," she said.

Asked if she thought it was intentional, she said: "I don't think we'll ever know."


No, you stupid farkwad.  You would know exactly for sure what happened if you spent the money to get a necropsy/toxicology screen.

Yeah, but what kind of idiot would spend that kind of money on a dog ?


A Westminster Kennel Club show contestant?
 
2013-03-01 06:31:58 PM

Mercury: Sucks. I had a dog poisoned via Strychnine. Very violent death. I would not wish this on anyone's pet.


this wasn't someone's pet - they were a breeder and shower.   Want a pet?  Go get a dog from a pound.
 
2013-03-01 06:32:20 PM

daisygrrl: I find the whole thing fishy. Reasons not to get a necropsy on a young champion stud dog? You think he was poisoned? Couldn't be that you have a freezer full of his sperm for sale and would never sell another vial if he dropped dead from natural causes. That would mean that you have an incentive to make up a story explaining the early death that still allows you to collect money.

/nothing to see here folks...
//I said good day!


Or he could be shooting blanks and thus worthless as a stud.
 
2013-03-01 06:34:05 PM

hb0mb: FTA:

"The timeline adds up. There's no other scenario we can come up with other than poison," she said.

Asked if she thought it was intentional, she said: "I don't think we'll ever know."


No, you stupid farkwad.  You would know exactly for sure what happened if you spent the money to get a necropsy/toxicology screen.


LOLWUT?  The necropsy would reveal whether the dog had ingested poison but it wouldn't create some magic Minority Report style video of the event.
 
2013-03-01 06:38:17 PM

Speedofdarkness: KellyKellyKelly: blatz514: blatz514: The veterinarian who treated Cruz, Molly Comiskey, told the Times: "Dogs are dogs. It's not anyone's fault. They eat stuff; they get into things; they make bad decisions." - See more at: http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/owner-dog-that-died-in-colorado- m ay-have-been-poisoned-at-westminster-dog-show#sthash.sk1MbC1v.dpuf FT FA:  They (dogs) make bad decisions.
The veterinarian who treated Cruz, Molly Comiskey, told the Times: "Dogs are dogs. It's not anyone's fault. They eat stuff; they get into things; they make bad decisions." - See more at: http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/owner-dog-that-died-in-colorado- m ay-have-been-poisoned-at-westminster-dog-show#sthash.sk1MbC1v.dpuf

WUT?
The veterinarian who treated Cruz, Molly Comiskey, told the Times: "Dogs are dogs. It's not anyone's fault. They eat stuff; they get into things; they make bad decisions." - See more at: http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/owner-dog-that-died-in-colorado- m ay-have-been-poisoned-at-westminster-dog-show#sthash.sk1MbC1v.dpuf

Well, looky at that post.  That's a first for me.

What is it, boy? Whatcha tryin' to tell us, boy?

Sounds like trouble down at the old mill.


One of the flayrods has apparently gotten out of skew on the treadle.

/ Biggie Smalls
 
2013-03-01 06:40:13 PM
24.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-03-01 06:51:30 PM
Biatches be crazy
 
2013-03-01 06:51:53 PM

leonel: ArcadianRefugee: hb0mb: FTA:

"The timeline adds up. There's no other scenario we can come up with other than poison," she said.

Asked if she thought it was intentional, she said: "I don't think we'll ever know."


No, you stupid farkwad.  You would know exactly for sure what happened if you spent the money to get a necropsy/toxicology screen.

Yeah, but what kind of idiot would spend that kind of money on a dog ?

A Westminster Kennel Club show contestant?


Seriously, this.  My friend's mother has been breeding & showing English Toy Spaniels for over 30 years.  She's had many champions over the years and the puppies can fetch (no pun intended) $2000-$3000 depending on the bloodline.  I've helped her out w/dozens of shows over the years and some prize dogs go for tens of thousands of dollars.

If you have a prize dog in Westminster, chances are you can afford a freakin' necropsy.  This woman's story sounds like BS.
 
2013-03-01 06:57:11 PM
FTFA:   Cruz, one of 33 Samoyeds list in the show, did not win any ribbons in the best of breed judging.

Nobody poisoned this woman's dog.  33 Samoyeds and this one didn't even so much as place 4th?  Not even worth the time.   I'm more suspicious of dragging the dog to another show 4 days later.  Westminster's a HUGE production and a lot of stress on a dog.  To spend 2+ days in NYC and then take the dog all the way to Colorado for another show within 4 days is utter madness.
 
2013-03-01 07:01:42 PM

Pangea: RealFarknMcCoy2: You work for the AKC, huh? Any qualms about the unethical breeding practices of your members? Because I'd find it really hard to work for an organisation that is contributing to the genetic downfall of so many breeds of dog...

You clearly already know all the details about every registered American dog club and accredited breeder, and are fully versed on all of the outreach and rehabilitation programs we offer. Not to mention the extensive training all judges go through in order to detect subtle signs of mistreatment of the animals.

Dog breeds have been cultivated over thousands of years for specific purposes. We didn't invent that. We catalog and document adherence to a clearly defined breed standard. I'm not going to spend my Friday evening trying to enlighten you because you're not worth my time.


Wow - way to avoid the issue. The issue isn't mistreatment, per se. The issue is that, by breeding towards an arbitrary breed standard, such as "face should be as flat as possible", your members are sometimes breeding dogs which shouldn't be bred, due to severe and avoidable genetic faults (including heart issues, syringomyelia, hip displaysia, back problems, to name only a very few) I hold the AKC and other breed associations largely responsible for the inbreeding, genetic deformities and severe health issues that result from breeding dogs for the show ring, rather than for the working/sporting purposes for which they were orginally developed. I could never work for the AKC, unless it was to oversee a complete overhaul of the system that is ruining dog breeds.<a data-cke-saved-href="<a href=" href="%3Ca%20href=" http:="" en.wikipedia.org="" wiki="" syringomyelia"="" target="_blank">
 
2013-03-01 08:00:40 PM

hb0mb: FTA:

"The timeline adds up. There's no other scenario we can come up with other than poison," she said.

Asked if she thought it was intentional, she said: "I don't think we'll ever know."


No, you stupid farkwad.  You would know exactly for sure what happened if you spent the money to get a necropsy/toxicology screen.


4.bp.blogspot.com

Heck, just have some LA detective follow around one of the arrogant rich guys, no testing really needed.
 
2013-03-01 08:32:47 PM
Did it get fed some mushrooms by an unknown invader?
 
2013-03-01 08:48:23 PM

Pangea: RealFarknMcCoy2: You work for the AKC, huh? Any qualms about the unethical breeding practices of your members? Because I'd find it really hard to work for an organisation that is contributing to the genetic downfall of so many breeds of dog...

You clearly already know all the details about every registered American dog club and accredited breeder, and are fully versed on all of the outreach and rehabilitation programs we offer. Not to mention the extensive training all judges go through in order to detect subtle signs of mistreatment of the animals.

Dog breeds have been cultivated over thousands of years for specific purposes. We didn't invent that. We catalog and document adherence to a clearly defined breed standard. I'm not going to spend my Friday evening trying to enlighten you because you're not worth my time.


This. And to add, most dogs are a cross species. Also, NO interbreeding is allowed. Records for these dogs are better kept than the Mormans.
 
2013-03-01 08:48:26 PM

Pichu0102: Did it get fed some mushrooms by an unknown invader?


It wasn't in Donkey Kong...
 
2013-03-01 08:53:55 PM

RealFarknMcCoy2: Pangea: RealFarknMcCoy2: You work for the AKC, huh? Any qualms about the unethical breeding practices of your members? Because I'd find it really hard to work for an organisation that is contributing to the genetic downfall of so many breeds of dog...

You clearly already know all the details about every registered American dog club and accredited breeder, and are fully versed on all of the outreach and rehabilitation programs we offer. Not to mention the extensive training all judges go through in order to detect subtle signs of mistreatment of the animals.

Dog breeds have been cultivated over thousands of years for specific purposes. We didn't invent that. We catalog and document adherence to a clearly defined breed standard. I'm not going to spend my Friday evening trying to enlighten you because you're not worth my time.

Wow - way to avoid the issue. The issue isn't mistreatment, per se. The issue is that, by breeding towards an arbitrary breed standard, such as "face should be as flat as possible", your members are sometimes breeding dogs which shouldn't be bred, due to severe and avoidable genetic faults (including heart issues, syringomyelia, hip displaysia, back problems, to name only a very few) I hold the AKC and other breed associations largely responsible for the inbreeding, genetic deformities and severe health issues that result from breeding dogs for the show ring, rather than for the working/sporting purposes for which they were orginally developed. I could never work for the AKC, unless it was to oversee a complete overhaul of the system that is ruining dog breeds.<a data-cke-saved-href="<a href=" href="%3Ca%20href=" http:="" en.wikipedia.org="" wiki="" syringomyelia"="" target="_blank">


Instead of attacking, if you stated your issues, out rightly I'm sure posters would have addressed it sunshine.
 
2013-03-01 09:08:02 PM

sleeps in trees: Instead of attacking, if you stated your issues, out rightly I'm sure posters would have addressed it sunshine.


Try reading.  "...contributing to the genetic downfall of so many breeds of dog..."  RealFarknMcCoy2 didn't say anything about abusing the animals, sunshine.
 
2013-03-01 09:10:38 PM
That site always freaks out my virus scanner.

Anyone else?
 
2013-03-01 09:28:05 PM

RealFarknMcCoy2: Pangea: RealFarknMcCoy2: You work for the AKC, huh? Any qualms about the unethical breeding practices of your members? Because I'd find it really hard to work for an organisation that is contributing to the genetic downfall of so many breeds of dog...

You clearly already know all the details about every registered American dog club and accredited breeder, and are fully versed on all of the outreach and rehabilitation programs we offer. Not to mention the extensive training all judges go through in order to detect subtle signs of mistreatment of the animals.

Dog breeds have been cultivated over thousands of years for specific purposes. We didn't invent that. We catalog and document adherence to a clearly defined breed standard. I'm not going to spend my Friday evening trying to enlighten you because you're not worth my time.

Wow - way to avoid the issue. The issue isn't mistreatment, per se. The issue is that, by breeding towards an arbitrary breed standard, such as "face should be as flat as possible", your members are sometimes breeding dogs which shouldn't be bred, due to severe and avoidable genetic faults (including heart issues, syringomyelia, hip displaysia, back problems, to name only a very few) I hold the AKC and other breed associations largely responsible for the inbreeding, genetic deformities and severe health issues that result from breeding dogs for the show ring, rather than for the working/sporting purposes for which they were orginally developed. I could never work for the AKC, unless it was to oversee a complete overhaul of the system that is ruining dog breeds.<a data-cke-saved-href="<a href=" href="%3Ca%20href=" http:="" en.wikipedia.org="" wiki="" syringomyelia"="" target="_blank">


In all fairness, the parent breed clubs set the standards, not the AKC.

However, the AKC does have other issues it can address to help dogs, but that doesn't help them make money.

Like not making it so easy for AKC registered dogs to be sold en masse in pet shops. Some breed clubs fight tooth and nail to prevent AKC recognition just for this reason (see Cavalier King Charles, Australian Shepherd, Border Collie, Jack Russell....) because AKC reconition encourages the puppy mills. UKC has an anti-pet shop rule, why not AKC? Harsh rules preventing clubs and judges from working with other registrations and venues (No you can't work that ASCA show because there's a nearby AKC show that weekend, doesnt matter that you weren't hired for it...). Realistic breeding limits on studs and biatches? Breed every heat cycle starting with first heat is fine. Only suspending a commercial breeder when they're arrested, despite what their own inspections show on living conditions.

Another good example is the Australian Shepherd mess from when an ILP Aussie won the agility championships a few years back, oh man that was a serious joke. ILP is the old "Indefinite Listing Priveledge", a kind of registration that let neutered animals who seem purebred compete in sports even if they don't have papers. It was very popular, especially for those with rescued purebreds.

But the Aussie parent club got their panties in a wad when a "mini" aussie won the grand prize. Said dog was also registered as a North American Shepherd with someone else. So what? There are many dual registered dogs out there with different names. UKC American Pit Bulls are sometimes registeres as AmStaffs, Jack vs Parson Russell, etc, never a problem before.

AKC let that one parent club, in a fit of pique, single handedly, and almost immediately, change the rules on ILP and toss out all the meaning and intentions on what standards are for. Dog meets the standard? Too bad now. Only AKC registered Aussies are considered Aussies? So if a dog is already AKC registered, why would he need ILP registration? This line of reasoning also disowns any dogs in any breed club's own rescue program because there will usually be no prior registration papers available.  My own 1991 Aussie, a beautiful boy from an ASCA hall of fame breeder and registered with ASCA before AKC even recognized the breed, is, according to the AKC, would no longer an Australian Shepherd if I got his ILP after this incident.

The maintenance of records and breed standards are the least of AKC's problems.
 
2013-03-01 09:42:38 PM

kibblesnbits: RealFarknMcCoy2: Pangea: RealFarknMcCoy2: You work for the AKC, huh? Any qualms about the unethical breeding practices of your members? Because I'd find it really hard to work for an organisation that is contributing to the genetic downfall of so many breeds of dog...

You clearly already know all the details about every registered American dog club and accredited breeder, and are fully versed on all of the outreach and rehabilitation programs we offer. Not to mention the extensive training all judges go through in order to detect subtle signs of mistreatment of the animals.

Dog breeds have been cultivated over thousands of years for specific purposes. We didn't invent that. We catalog and document adherence to a clearly defined breed standard. I'm not going to spend my Friday evening trying to enlighten you because you're not worth my time.

Wow - way to avoid the issue. The issue isn't mistreatment, per se. The issue is that, by breeding towards an arbitrary breed standard, such as "face should be as flat as possible", your members are sometimes breeding dogs which shouldn't be bred, due to severe and avoidable genetic faults (including heart issues, syringomyelia, hip displaysia, back problems, to name only a very few) I hold the AKC and other breed associations largely responsible for the inbreeding, genetic deformities and severe health issues that result from breeding dogs for the show ring, rather than for the working/sporting purposes for which they were orginally developed. I could never work for the AKC, unless it was to oversee a complete overhaul of the system that is ruining dog breeds.<a data-cke-saved-href="<a href=" href="%3Ca%20href=" http:="" en.wikipedia.org="" wiki="" syringomyelia"="" target="_blank">

In all fairness, the parent breed clubs set the standards, not the AKC.

However, the AKC does have other issues it can address to help dogs, but that doesn't help them make money.

Like not making it so easy for AKC registered dogs to b ...


imgs.xkcd.com
 
2013-03-01 09:51:00 PM
BTW, my own qualifications for what I'm saying: My mixed breed beaglish girl is registered with UKC, AMBOR, ASCA, AHBA, and NADAAC. No conflicts whatsoever (except when I want to be at two different trials on the same day). And, yes, I've read the judges' manual as well as lots of breed standards. I know that the Aussie standard only offers guidelines on height, with no DQs for being undersized. I know that Vizslas even have their barking mentioned in their standard. Even wrote a fake breed standard that some actually believed. Made up my own kennel club too that some fell for too.

I also wrote this (admittedly now a bit outdated) article many years ago, that many have used to educate themselves. I think I need to update it sooner than later.

http://www.wonderpuppy.net/kc.htm
 
2013-03-01 09:54:33 PM

Cyno01: kibblesnbits: RealFarknMcCoy2: Pangea: RealFarknMcCoy2: You work for the AKC, huh?


"Human subcultures are nested fractally...."

You are so freakin' right, LOL!!
 
2013-03-01 10:40:19 PM

Gyrfalcon: "Dogs make bad decisions"
??????

Dogs, like middle-school boys, don't make ANY decisions. Especially about food.


If you are an asshole, like say my ex-husband, you can get a dog to make decisions about food. How? Well, he thought it was hilarious to feed spicy food to the dogs. While my basset hound will eat it, the other dog learned very quickly to smell whatever it was in his hand before he decided whether he wanted it, rather than just gulping down whatever he was being handed.

/fool me once...
 
2013-03-01 11:51:14 PM
She said that while there was no evidence foul play was involved, certain symptoms were consistent with dogs that ingest rat or mouse poison. That was the reason she said she decided against a necropsy -- an autopsy for animals.

Erm.... *head-shake-erblerblerbl* ... WUT? Your prize, nationally-competitive Samoyed dies suddenly without apparent cause, and that's why you decided AGAINST necropsy?
 
2013-03-02 12:02:29 AM

blatz514: The veterinarian who treated Cruz, Molly Comiskey, told the Times: "Dogs are dogs. It's not anyone's fault. They eat stuff; they get into things; they make bad decisions." - See more at: http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/owner-dog-that-died-in-colorado- m ay-have-been-poisoned-at-westminster-dog-show#sthash.sk1MbC1v.dpuf FT FA:  They (dogs) make bad decisions.
The veterinarian who treated Cruz, Molly Comiskey, told the Times: "Dogs are dogs. It's not anyone's fault. They eat stuff; they get into things; they make bad decisions." - See more at: http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/owner-dog-that-died-in-colorado- m ay-have-been-poisoned-at-westminster-dog-show#sthash.sk1MbC1v.dpuf

WUT?
The veterinarian who treated Cruz, Molly Comiskey, told the Times: "Dogs are dogs. It's not anyone's fault. They eat stuff; they get into things; they make bad decisions." - See more at: http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/owner-dog-that-died-in-colorado- m ay-have-been-poisoned-at-westminster-dog-show#sthash.sk1MbC1v.dpuf

 
2013-03-02 12:20:50 AM
I'm always afraid while watching the dog show, that one of those fat biatches will fall on the dog and kill it.
 
2013-03-02 07:28:16 AM

RealFarknMcCoy2: I hold the AKC and other breed associations largely responsible for the inbreeding, genetic deformities and severe health issues that result from breeding dogs for the show ring, rather than for the working/sporting purposes for which they were orginally developed.


Some issues were there all along even with well-established breeds. How well do you think dachshunds survive in the wild? They're one of the first breeds that were recognized. Selective inbreeding is indeed the cause of genetic deformities with some of the breeds. However, genetic inbreeding is also the only reason multiple breeds exist, including all those working and sporting breeds you deem acceptable.

It is only over time as breeders push for certain standards that specific abnormalities present themselves. I do personally disagree with certain breeds that serve no clear purpose, such as any flat-faced dog that can't breathe. Same goes for dogs prone to hip problems. You can see that a german shepherd will develop problems just by observing his gait. However I've personally seen amazing herding displays of actual working Collies while visiting Ireland. No one could know which would be a success or failure when initially breeding for those purposes. Would you argue there should be no Collie because of the Shepherd's hips?

I work here because I love dogs and because we do a lot of good things the public never sees. If I got involved in finance reform because I wanted to help end predatory lending practices on high-risk clients, would you deride my choice because some banks engage in those predatory practices? I do hope to enact positive change in whatever small way I can, but I don't feel compelled to convince you of my motives any further.

// Gym in 26 minutes.
 
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