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(Detroit Free Press)   Detroit to be placed under emergency financial manager, Omni Consumer Products expected to bid   (freep.com) divider line 269
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2013-03-01 05:15:00 PM  

Why Would I Read the Article: MyKingdomForYourHorse: Cheron: Tunk87: Fark It: Interesting. What happens to democracy when people and their elected representatives are too illiterate, apathetic, corrupt, and/or incompetent?

Detroit Tea party The Republican Party Democrats

Politicians
 
2013-03-01 05:16:36 PM  

yeegrek: For example, I cannot accept that Kwame Kilpatrick was the best possible Democrat in Detroit.


You know how Kilpatrick won? (Besides manipulation by his mother) Voters in Detroit wanted a mayor who was more black than Dennis Archer.

The joke was on them. They got one.
 
2013-03-01 05:18:01 PM  

killershark: ha-ha-guy: ds615: This is a good thing.  Everyone that knows anything about it agrees.
The only people that don't think so is the city council, but they're corrupt idiots so their opinion doesn't matter.

/Live just North of it.
// Would sell the whole damn thing to OPC, China, or the Girls Scouts for a dollar. Whichever offers first.

Yup, the City Council dug their own graves when they went all in against Bing's plans to shrink the city's service footprint.  Everyone knew it had to be done, the Mayor of the Detroit had a reasonable proposal on the table, and the farkers refused out of a fear it might remotely impact their corrupt little fiefdoms.  So now Lansing is going to do it.  Basically they proved even if an intelligent and capable executive is elected, the City Council will fark it all up.

The city council started digging their grave when Coleman Young let them ransack the place for their own personal gains. It's just been going down from there.

Grew up in the Oakland Co. suburbs and haven't been back in years but still breaks my heart to see it has become this bad. Is Bing the right solution though? I think it would be interesting to see a business/finance type come in and clean up the books.


Bing's a businessman.
 
2013-03-01 05:18:21 PM  
Wasn't Detroit bailed out once already? Guess it takes a lot time and money to fix 50 years of democrat corruption..
 
2013-03-01 05:18:58 PM  

Lost Thought 00: By the same logic, Obama could throw out a state legislature and governor, overturn all their state laws, and install his own appointees as the new government


Maybe so, maybe not, but the constitution does not allow the feds to remove and replace state officials they disagree with.  Michigan law does allow the state to take over the finances of a city when that city has gotten itself into the sort of mess Detroit has.  Also the takeover is temporary.  The article said the appointee would hold the job for 18 months.
 
2013-03-01 05:19:25 PM  
"I look at today as a sad day, a day I wish had never happened in the history of Detroit, but also a day of optimism and promise," Snyder said.

What the fark is he optimistic about? Are they going to wall off the city a la Escape from New York or something?
 
2013-03-01 05:20:53 PM  

ha-ha-guy: JohnAnnArbor: kmfjd: How many Detroit city council members will be crying racism?

Not all.  Some do, though, when waking up, getting coffee, showing up at the office, etc.  Basically continuously.  Sad and incredibly counterproductive, as well as sadly effective.

The President has already hint at it and said if it isn't a black person, the race card is getting played.  It's said how many good ideas die in Detroit, simply because the white folk up in Oakland County support it, so it must be the work of the devil.

/also hopefully AATA is able to avoid this SE Michigan transit authority bullshiat that Snyder proposes


shiat, if Snyder wanted to play political hardball, he'd nominate Obama as manager. Anyone who takes it on is doomed to fail.
 
2013-03-01 05:20:57 PM  

tallguywithglasseson: "I look at today as a sad day, a day I wish had never happened in the history of Detroit, but also a day of optimism and promise," Snyder said.

What the fark is he optimistic about? Are they going to wall off the city a la Escape from New York or something?


There's nowhere to go but up.
 
2013-03-01 05:22:24 PM  
Everyone knows exactly what is wrong with Detroit.

Can't solve the problem until the problem is allowed to be recognized.
 
2013-03-01 05:23:42 PM  

Hobodeluxe: Michigan is a dictatorship. they've overthrown duly elected representatives and installed corporate cronies to do away with collective bargaining agreements and crush unions allowing then to cut the pay of city workers.


The state of Michigan will end up having to bail out Detroit.  Remember the golden rule.  He who has the gold makes the rules.  Also  as someone else said.  State governments don't exist at the pleasure of the federal government.  City governments usually do exist at the pleasure of the state governments.  Also the city of Detroit farked up big time.  By doing so, they have proven they're not capable of running their own finances.
 
2013-03-01 05:27:18 PM  

This text is now purple: yeegrek: For example, I cannot accept that Kwame Kilpatrick was the best possible Democrat in Detroit.

You know how Kilpatrick won? (Besides manipulation by his mother) Voters in Detroit wanted a mayor who was more black than Dennis Archer.

The joke was on them. They got one.


Would you f*ckers stop talking about him?  I hate when that douche bag makes my inbox blow up with notices.
 
2013-03-01 05:30:08 PM  

kwame: This text is now purple: yeegrek: For example, I cannot accept that Kwame Kilpatrick was the best possible Democrat in Detroit.

You know how Kilpatrick won? (Besides manipulation by his mother) Voters in Detroit wanted a mayor who was more black than Dennis Archer.

The joke was on them. They got one.

Would you f*ckers stop talking about him?  I hate when that douche bag makes my inbox blow up with notices.


He's about to get convicted.  Get ready.
 
2013-03-01 05:30:59 PM  

I Like Shiny Things: Everyone knows exactly what is wrong with Detroit.

Can't solve the problem until the problem is allowed to be recognized.


This book talks about that very thing
i26.photobucket.com
 
2013-03-01 05:35:59 PM  

PaLarkin: The article said the appointee would hold the job for 18 months.


What happens if there are still huge problems after 18 months?  New Manager appointed, or elected officials resume?
 
2013-03-01 05:37:03 PM  

Cheron: Tunk87: Fark It: Interesting.  What happens to democracy when people and their elected representatives are too illiterate, apathetic, corrupt, and/or incompetent?

Detroit Tea party


Yeah, it's heavy tea party voting cities that are festering hell holes and not democratic voting urban centers. You're right on the money.
 
2013-03-01 05:38:23 PM  
I have no problem with Detroit's elected officials continuing to turn the city into more of a wasteland then it already is just as long as none of my federal tax money goes to bailing them out.
 
2013-03-01 05:45:37 PM  
Good news everyone!

You (yes YOU) can be a proud homeowner for just $100!!!

Difficulty: Detroit

http://www.businessinsider.com/cheap-detroit-homes-2011-6?op=1

(megarian representin'. The D...it's so cold in here)
 
2013-03-01 05:49:09 PM  

JohnAnnArbor: kwame: This text is now purple: yeegrek: For example, I cannot accept that Kwame Kilpatrick was the best possible Democrat in Detroit.

You know how Kilpatrick won? (Besides manipulation by his mother) Voters in Detroit wanted a mayor who was more black than Dennis Archer.

The joke was on them. They got one.

Would you f*ckers stop talking about him?  I hate when that douche bag makes my inbox blow up with notices.

He's about to get convicted.  Get ready.


For the third time. Kwame's a gem.
 
2013-03-01 05:50:18 PM  
You ever go to a party at a party center for like a reception or something and at the end of the night, everybody is half hammered and the floor is covered in sparkles and confetti and people are filling little plastic bags with prime rib and hors d'oeuvres and putting the leftover beer in their cars and somebody is standing there with a broom waiting for everybody to get the f*ck out and you wonder, "what becomes of this place when the party's over?"  That's where America is now.  This is just the most visible portion of the emperor's naked ass.
 
2013-03-01 05:57:42 PM  

Onkel Buck: This book talks about that very thing


I went to amazon and read the description and cringed harder than I have in a long time.  Then I hit up google to see if this guy is a crank and hit a wall of WP sites.  Think I'm going to take a pass on that one.
 
2013-03-01 06:01:33 PM  

megarian: Good news everyone!

You (yes YOU) can be a proud homeowner for just $100!!!

Difficulty: Detroit

http://www.businessinsider.com/cheap-detroit-homes-2011-6?op=1

(megarian representin'. The D...it's so cold in here)


)



T Baby is a national treasure and the next big thing to come out of The D!
 
2013-03-01 06:03:00 PM  
By the same logic, Obama could throw out a state legislature and governor, overturn all their state laws, and install his own appointees as the new government
I thought that was what he was trying to do already
 
2013-03-01 06:05:26 PM  
If everybody from every extant political apparatus in your country is trying hard to distance themselves further away from the present state of affairs than the other, your country is probably on fire.
 
2013-03-01 06:06:49 PM  

IrateShadow: Onkel Buck: This book talks about that very thing

I went to amazon and read the description and cringed harder than I have in a long time.  Then I hit up google to see if this guy is a crank and hit a wall of WP sites.  Think I'm going to take a pass on that one.


Yeah, not helpful is the nicest thing I could say.
 
2013-03-01 06:06:56 PM  

Onkel Buck: megarian: Good news everyone!

You (yes YOU) can be a proud homeowner for just $100!!!

Difficulty: Detroit

http://www.businessinsider.com/cheap-detroit-homes-2011-6?op=1

(megarian representin'. The D...it's so cold in here)

)



T Baby is a national treasure and the next big thing to come out of The D!


Bahahaha oooh that gave me lulz. Unfortunate, unfortunate lulz.
 
2013-03-01 06:07:18 PM  

IrateShadow: Onkel Buck: This book talks about that very thing

I went to amazon and read the description and cringed harder than I have in a long time.  Then I hit up google to see if this guy is a crank and hit a wall of WP sites.  Think I'm going to take a pass on that one.


Fair enough, but you still have look at the leadership that got Detroit into the mess its in now and acknowledge all the corruption and terrible mismanagment. That shold make you cringe as well
 
2013-03-01 06:07:40 PM  

DogBoyTheCat: By the same logic, Obama could throw out a state legislature and governor, overturn all their state laws, and install his own appointees as the new government
I thought that was what he was trying to do already


That derp was dealt with up thread.  State Constitution != Federal Constitution
 
2013-03-01 06:08:04 PM  

Adolf Oliver Nipples: yeegrek: And the inevitable climax of the Teabagger Revolution finally comes around.

I generally try to avoid playing this game (but I'll power through it this one time):  Can anyone else imagine the psychotic ragegasm that would erupt from the right if a Democratic Governor told, say, a part of Appalachia that it was no longer fit to govern itself and therefore it's elected representatives would be swept aside in favor of the Gov's cronies?   I'm sure they'd handle it with the same general sense of calm and lack of hyperbole that they always handle things with.

To be fair, you'd have to find a case where such a situation exists. Can you? I can point to dozens of cities, including the one nearest to me (Harrisburg, PA), that have been savaged by the policies of their leaders. With very few exceptions, they are all governed by Democrats.

Is that a reflection of the party as a whole or the mores of the locales in question? Maybe a little bit of both. But mostly it's the failure of the electorate to vote for people who will govern responsibly instead of running on ridiculous populism and promises that they simply cannot keep without driving the city into the ground, which they then invariably do.


With very few exceptions, all cities (successful or not) of any significant size are governed by Democrats and feature a majority Democratic voting population.  Note: Maybe not be valid in the former Confederate States of America.

Assuming you are not in the land of Dixie, here's how it works:

Rural areas are almost always Republican.
Suburbs that are next to rural areas are usually Republican.
Suburbs that are next to big cities are usually Democratic.
Big cities are almost always Democratic.

That is, the reason poorly run big cities are always run by Democrats is because they are big cities, not because they are poorly run.
 
2013-03-01 06:10:08 PM  
I hate the Emergency Financial Manager thing...

It's so anti-Democracy...
 
2013-03-01 06:10:10 PM  
www.annarbor.com
Miss Me Yet?
 
2013-03-01 06:13:18 PM  

Jodeo: [www.annarbor.com image 149x176]
Miss Me Yet?


No.  Nobody does.  Criminals selling themselves as the least reprehensible criminal, and therefore the best choice, is half the problem.  People thinking that's all the get is the other half.   :  )
 
2013-03-01 06:14:18 PM  

Adolf Oliver Nipples: There's nowhere to go but up.


Get back to me in another 5-10 years.
 
2013-03-01 06:14:25 PM  
www.annarbor.com
Miss Me Yet?

Miss soap on a rope yet?
 
2013-03-01 06:18:48 PM  

lack of warmth: [www.annarbor.com image 149x176]
Miss Me Yet?

Miss soap on a rope yet?


Kwame a big dude, he'll be a viking before he is a victim
 
2013-03-01 06:21:51 PM  
The no-bid "privatization" contracts that will inevitably follow will be epic.  They'll make Chicago's horrible parking meters deal look like NewsCorp's deal for MySpace.  Tolls for sidewalks? Credit card swipers on water fountains? Melt down the Joe Louis statue for something "less intimidating and more business friendly"?

Anything is possible!
 
2013-03-01 06:23:52 PM  

Onkel Buck: Kwame a big dude, he'll be a viking before he is a victim


And the true patriotic Americans left will find a way to turn that into a 69.99 pay per view special with T-shirts and Kwame Cola.
 
2013-03-01 06:26:31 PM  
i26.photobucket.com
and all I got was a dead hooker
 
2013-03-01 06:29:01 PM  

Now That's What I Call a Taco!: The no-bid "privatization" contracts that will inevitably follow will be epic.  They'll make Chicago's horrible parking meters deal look like NewsCorp's deal for MySpace.  Tolls for sidewalks? Credit card swipers on water fountains? Melt down the Joe Louis statue for something "less intimidating and more business friendly"?

Anything is possible!


"We're out of resources, we don't make stuff anymore and the wealthy have shoved every nickel they could get straight up their asses and there's no money moving around amongst the poor people who pay our bills!  What should we do?"

"Monetize and overcharge for every single thing that is necessary for survival!"

"You think that'll work?"

"Look, f*ck if know or care.  Just help me get this money in this suitcase and take me to the airport."
 
2013-03-01 06:30:38 PM  
occupycorporatism.com
 
2013-03-01 06:33:38 PM  

Onkel Buck: [i26.photobucket.com image 280x280]
and all I got was a dead hooker


Hey man, that party never happened.  Didn't you hear?

/I heard the rumors long before they hit the news..................
 
2013-03-01 06:33:51 PM  

lack of warmth: [www.annarbor.com image 149x176]
Miss Me Yet?

Miss soap on a rope yet?


The jurors could have really trolled the Detroit media by returning a verdict today.
 
2013-03-01 06:39:24 PM  

Onkel Buck: lack of warmth: [www.annarbor.com image 149x176]
Miss Me Yet?

Miss soap on a rope yet?

Kwame a big dude, he'll be a viking before he is a victim


Yeah, big dudes never get raped.  No, that never happens, the other inmates don't ever gang up on a guy just to prove that it can be done.
 
2013-03-01 06:42:40 PM  

JohnAnnArbor: Onkel Buck: [i26.photobucket.com image 280x280]
and all I got was a dead hooker

Hey man, that party never happened.  Didn't you hear?

/I heard the rumors long before they hit the news..................


Im sure. I listen to Drew and Mike online in the morning since I live in NC and got their take on it. What a mess
 
2013-03-01 06:48:43 PM  
This is what happens with 5 decades of Liberal Progressiveness.
 
2013-03-01 06:51:30 PM  

bunner: Before this thread goes full scale partisan hackery, I just wanted to proffer this plain-as-the-balls-on-a-tall-dog factoid.

"Liberal", "Conservative"  "Democrat" and "Republican" are

a b s o l u t e l y

m e a n i n g l e s s .


You're welcome.


Yea...but the Republicans and the Conservatives left Detroit a long time ago.
 
2013-03-01 06:51:56 PM  

lokis_mentor: I'll give you $35.


That show is such a farking train wreck that I can't help but watch it sometimes.
 
2013-03-01 06:52:10 PM  

lack of warmth: Onkel Buck: lack of warmth: [www.annarbor.com image 149x176]
Miss Me Yet?

Miss soap on a rope yet?

Kwame a big dude, he'll be a viking before he is a victim

Yeah, big dudes never get raped.  No, that never happens, the other inmates don't ever gang up on a guy just to prove that it can be done.


Can you tell us you made wine in the terlet, it sounds like you speak from experience

/Would anyone wanna brag that they farked Kwame Kilpatrick in the ass?
//don't answer that
 
2013-03-01 06:56:55 PM  
Job Creators(tm) chewed up Detroit, swallowed all our jobs, spit out an industrial wasteland, and made sure their well-paid minions on AM radio blamed all the resulting decay on those uppity folk left behind. Now the next generation of grifters get to come in and clean up on what's left for pennies on the dollar.

Kwame knows its good to be gangsta, he just didn't realize how much better it was to be a corporate one.
 
2013-03-01 07:02:39 PM  

Spare Me: Yea...but the Republicans and the Conservatives left Detroit

ceased to exist in any meaningful definition of the terms a long time ago.

FIFM
 
2013-03-01 07:03:02 PM  

birdboy2000: If Obama decided to remove Michigan's governor for partisan reasons and appoint a democrat in his place, and a partisan supreme court signed off on it, the nation would be justly outraged.  Yet Michigan's governor is doing the same thing to democratic cities and towns across the state.


You don't actually think he's doing it for partisan reasons, do you?  I refuse to believe anyone is that dumb.
 
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