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(Sun Sentinel)   Residents of a mobile home company agitated over new washing machine guidelines   (sun-sentinel.com) divider line 45
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2013-03-01 10:06:32 AM  
The required 'Tornado Spin Cycle' makes them twitchy.
 
2013-03-01 10:07:52 AM  
Well, that's one way to spin it.
 
2013-03-01 10:08:49 AM  
What's a laundry shed? Every mobile home I've been in has had the washer and dryer in the home.
 
2013-03-01 10:09:13 AM  

"I've been here 35 years and never had a problem, and now after 35 years they want me to change my pipe," said resident Sally Dun. "I'm getting very aggravated."


Roger, Roger.

What's our vector, Victor?

Oveur, Dun.


Fark headline next month after this lady is arrested: "Dun goofed"
 
2013-03-01 10:09:21 AM  
Meddling. 35 years from now they will come back and say," now it has.to be changed again".... Never can leave well enough alone.
 
2013-03-01 10:10:15 AM  
Will you please stop using this site? The rest of us don't want to register there.  Surely some other paper covers weird Florida news
 
2013-03-01 10:14:40 AM  
Washing machines...

Agitated...

Hahahahahahaha, I get it.

Oh that's rich.
 
2013-03-01 10:15:15 AM  
Sally Dun Frowns Upon Your Shenanigans

25.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-03-01 10:16:44 AM  
Being this is Florida, I wonder which Davie politician has a company that installs vents and drainlines
 
2013-03-01 10:17:22 AM  
Code Violation trifecta in play?
 
2013-03-01 10:17:57 AM  
Wait wait, so they live in the mobile home company?
 
2013-03-01 10:18:46 AM  
"Sewer gases need to have a vent to escape to the outside. ... Sewer gases are methane and highly flammable, which becomes a safety issue for the homeowner and surrounding properties," said town officials. Florida's building and plumbing code also requires all underground drain pipes be a minimum of 2 inches.

That sounds potentially bad, but rather expensive. You can't just expect these people to be able to...

When residents first got a notice from the city, they were told to comply with the building code within 10 days or risk being fined $500 a day. Since then, the city has eased up by waiving an $86 permit fee and by partnering with the local plumbers union, which will perform the labor at no cost if the homeowner provides the materials.

Oh. Well, that's nice. Now this all seems completely reasonable.

But residents still aren't happy.

"I've been here 35 years and never had a problem, and now after 35 years they want me to change my pipe," said resident Sally Dun. "I'm getting very aggravated."


Which of course means people will biatch about it.
 
2013-03-01 10:19:21 AM  

Old_Chief_Scott: Washing machines...

Agitated...

Hahahahahahaha, I get it.

Oh that's rich.


Article is just a fluff piece.
 
2013-03-01 10:20:55 AM  
Davie: we'll wave the permit fees and the plumbers union will do the work for free....

Residents: No....because we're old and we dont want to do it.

residents=assholes
 
2013-03-01 10:22:02 AM  

Devolving_Spud: Old_Chief_Scott: Washing machines...

Agitated...

Hahahahahahaha, I get it.

Oh that's rich.

Article is just a fluff piece.


But it did allow some of the residents to vent a bit.
 
2013-03-01 10:22:34 AM  

InovativelyFun: Will you please stop using this site? The rest of us don't want to register there.  Surely some other paper covers weird Florida news


I would like to second that motion. I prefer to keep my email address out of the hands of Floridians.
 
2013-03-01 10:24:23 AM  
So, I'm curious - what, exactly, is the fuss? Buy a couple of hundred bucks' worth of parts, and the town's arrangement with the union means the work gets done for free. (The labor's far more expensive than the parts, typically, when dealing with a plumbing refit.) Shed gets up to code, no risk of explosion, and everyone gets clean clothes.

The downside of not doing it is the waiting game to see which is the first shed that pops like a zit, expelling a crotchety cooked coot, thanks to the methane explosion.

Why do some folks dig their heels in for no other reason than to dig their heels in?
 
2013-03-01 10:28:41 AM  
In normal places stuff like this is "grandfathered in" -- if you don't change anything then you are fine. Once you start cutting pipes you have to bring it up to code. Which makes all the sense in the world, after all if it worked for 35 years it's unlikely to fail tomorrow just because someone else is in charge.

Also ten days or thirty days? Normal stuff like this is at least 90 days, and usually years of notice.
 
2013-03-01 10:30:26 AM  
That guy Davie sounds like a real jerk.
 
2013-03-01 10:31:19 AM  

99.998er: I would like to second that motion. I prefer to keep my email address out of the hands of Floridians.


If you don't have a Spam receptacle email address, you really are doing yourself a disservice.  Get an email address to be used solely for this kind of drudgery.  Empty it out every six months or so.  They get an email address, you get to ignore them forcefully, everybody's happy!  Though it does eat into your biatching-about-it time....
 
2013-03-01 10:32:52 AM  

Russ1642: What's a laundry shed? Every mobile home I've been in has had the washer and dryer in the home.


You mean disconnected and sitting in the front yard.
 
2013-03-01 10:36:42 AM  

The Irresponsible Captain: In normal places stuff like this is "grandfathered in" -- if you don't change anything then you are fine. Once you start cutting pipes you have to bring it up to code. Which makes all the sense in the world, after all if it worked for 35 years it's unlikely to fail tomorrow just because someone else is in charge.

Also ten days or thirty days? Normal stuff like this is at least 90 days, and usually years of notice.


This is pretty much what I was going to say. Aside from the venting issue which is a public health concern, if a 1.5" pipe was working just fine for 35 years then there should be no reason to change it. But I think that because of the need to properly vent the drains (which requires "Cutting pipe") they end up having to do the entire drain system. It's a catch 22 situation. The vents are probably $20-$30 in materials but the drain pipes can get pretty salty depending upon how long the run is.
 
2013-03-01 10:38:31 AM  

vartian: "Sewer gases need to have a vent to escape to the outside. ... Sewer gases are methane and highly flammable, which becomes a safety issue for the homeowner and surrounding properties," said town officials. Florida's building and plumbing code also requires all underground drain pipes be a minimum of 2 inches.

That sounds potentially bad, but rather expensive. You can't just expect these people to be able to...

When residents first got a notice from the city, they were told to comply with the building code within 10 days or risk being fined $500 a day. Since then, the city has eased up by waiving an $86 permit fee and by partnering with the local plumbers union, which will perform the labor at no cost if the homeowner provides the materials.

Oh. Well, that's nice. Now this all seems completely reasonable.

But residents still aren't happy.

"I've been here 35 years and never had a problem, and now after 35 years they want me to change my pipe," said resident Sally Dun. "I'm getting very aggravated."

Which of course means people will biatch about it.


It didn't start reasonable though, when your first letter to the people is:
"Modify your plumbing at your cost, and pay us a permit fee to do what we command, it else we are going to fine you into oblivion"

Stepping back from that isn't being reasonable, its just pitchfork avoidance. (And that's a 75$ fee)
 
2013-03-01 10:39:32 AM  

FormlessOne: So, I'm curious - what, exactly, is the fuss? Buy a couple of hundred bucks' worth of parts, and the town's arrangement with the union means the work gets done for free. (The labor's far more expensive than the parts, typically, when dealing with a plumbing refit.) Shed gets up to code, no risk of explosion, and everyone gets clean clothes.

The downside of not doing it is the waiting game to see which is the first shed that pops like a zit, expelling a crotchety cooked coot, thanks to the methane explosion.

Why do some folks dig their heels in for no other reason than to dig their heels in?


Because your waiting game has already been waiting 35+ years.
 
2013-03-01 10:40:48 AM  
What a load!
 
2013-03-01 10:45:01 AM  
Hurricanes, shootings, drugs, sink holes, alligators and man-eating sharks and they're worried about laundry shed code violations??  Really Florida??
 
2013-03-01 10:54:34 AM  
P-TRAPS how do they work?
oh yea, it is how the rest of the home keeps out methane (sewer) gases
if the tube to the washer also tees off to the roof then they are vented if not put one in
2 inch pipe needed WHY?
 
2013-03-01 10:57:21 AM  
Just don't get the "company" neighborhood watch involved.  You know what happened last time a Florida neighborhood watch got involved in something.

BTW subby, "...mobile home company..."?  Autocorrect headline?
 
2013-03-01 10:57:34 AM  
Pass the hat and fix the shiat.
 
2013-03-01 11:09:21 AM  

Fark In The Duck: Hurricanes, shootings, drugs, sink holes, alligators and man-eating sharks and they're worried about laundry shed code violations??  Really Florida??


this
 
2013-03-01 11:19:38 AM  
planofcare.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-03-01 11:36:04 AM  

karmaceutical: Wait wait, so they live in the mobile home company?


Well, you test drive automobiles at the factory, it would make sense to have somebody test reside in mobile homes at the factory too.
 
2013-03-01 11:47:32 AM  

Gary Coleman's kidneys: Davie: we'll wave the permit fees and the plumbers union will do the work for free....

Residents: No....because we're old and we dont want to do it.

residents=assholes


Stubborn OLD PEOPLE.
 
2013-03-01 11:47:40 AM  

InovativelyFun: Will you please stop using this site? The rest of us don't want to register there.  Surely some other paper covers weird Florida news


This

Registration sites make Baby Jesus cry.
 
2013-03-01 12:26:49 PM  
Layin' pipe all night long, layin' pipe, I'm working so hard,
Layin' pipe all night long, layin' pipe to satify that government!
 
2013-03-01 12:52:48 PM  
hee hee hee
 
2013-03-01 01:31:24 PM  
I call BS.

Union scum working for free. Yeah right.
 
2013-03-01 02:23:11 PM  

Bermuda59: Being this is Florida, I wonder which Davie politician has a company that installs vents and drainlines


Bingo.

If I had the time I could probably google it and directly connect a local plumbers business/union to a mayor or council member.
 
2013-03-01 02:34:55 PM  

99.998er: InovativelyFun: Will you please stop using this site? The rest of us don't want to register there.  Surely some other paper covers weird Florida news

I would like to second that motion. I prefer to keep my email address out of the hands of Floridians.


Get used to it, folks, the squeeze is on all over.  I don't want every Fark link to be some sucky blog.  Get a throwaway email address for such things.
 
2013-03-01 02:44:34 PM  
Sewer gases? That's some mighty dirty laundry.
 
2013-03-01 04:38:27 PM  

BarkingUnicorn: 99.998er: InovativelyFun: Will you please stop using this site? The rest of us don't want to register there.  Surely some other paper covers weird Florida news

I would like to second that motion. I prefer to keep my email address out of the hands of Floridians.

Get used to it, folks, the squeeze is on all over.  I don't want every Fark link to be some sucky blog.  Get a throwaway email address for such things.


I have a throwaway email for such things, :) but I don't think it's my responsibility to sign up for every site on the internet. Between this and sites wanting me to download their app to read the site, well, let's say I'm getting more work done.
 
2013-03-01 08:35:29 PM  

Sim Tree: BarkingUnicorn: 99.998er: InovativelyFun: Will you please stop using this site? The rest of us don't want to register there.  Surely some other paper covers weird Florida news

I would like to second that motion. I prefer to keep my email address out of the hands of Floridians.

Get used to it, folks, the squeeze is on all over.  I don't want every Fark link to be some sucky blog.  Get a throwaway email address for such things.

I have a throwaway email for such things, :) but I don't think it's my responsibility to sign up for every site on the internet. Between this and sites wanting me to download their app to read the site, well, let's say I'm getting more work done.


So registration walls are good for you.  Objecting to them is not in your best interests.
 
2013-03-01 08:41:47 PM  

BarkingUnicorn: So registration walls are good for you. Objecting to them is not in your best interests.


Bwahahahahaha!
 
2013-03-01 09:38:08 PM  
So, there's a bit of bullshiat being spread in that article. First of all, the purpose of the vent in a residential drain system is to allow air to enter when the drains are in use, preventing a vacuum from forming behind the "slug" of water going down the drain. The vent also vents small quantities of sewer gases to the air. But there's NOT enough gas to cause an explosion. And if the laundry drains have traps, that gas can't get in to the shed anyway. Second of all, the national plumbing code only requires 1 1/2" drains for bathtubs. So why would a washer require 2"? The drain tube coming out of most washers is 1" diameter You don't require that much capacity to handle the water.
 
2013-03-01 11:44:41 PM  

Sim Tree: BarkingUnicorn: 99.998er: InovativelyFun: Will you please stop using this site? The rest of us don't want to register there.  Surely some other paper covers weird Florida news

I would like to second that motion. I prefer to keep my email address out of the hands of Floridians.

Get used to it, folks, the squeeze is on all over.  I don't want every Fark link to be some sucky blog.  Get a throwaway email address for such things.

I have a throwaway email for such things, :) but I don't think it's my responsibility to sign up for every site on the internet. Between this and sites wanting me to download their app to read the site, well, let's say I'm getting more work done.


Hmm, I don't get asked to register. Probably Adblock/Noscript hard at work making the interwebs tolerable.
 
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