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(Syracuse Post-Standard)   New York: Hey, here's a tax-rebate program. Go on and apply and you'll get something. It's not like we verify anything since we couldn't do that even if we wanted to - and besides, it's only 20% of the program being ripped off, you haters   (syracuse.com ) divider line
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1154 clicks; posted to Politics » on 01 Mar 2013 at 11:23 AM (3 years ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



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2013-03-01 11:08:39 AM  
Well, you'd have to pay me to live in New York.

Looks like a few people agree with me
 
2013-03-01 11:12:45 AM  
Now audit the rest of it. Business tax breaks, food stamps, Medicaid, the MTA, the whole farking lot of it up in that cesspit Albany.

The major news will be if you DON'T find corruption.
 
2013-03-01 11:32:00 AM  
What is happening in this headline?
 
2013-03-01 11:39:48 AM  
"Basic STAR exemptions are designed for an owner-occupied, primary residence where the income of owners and their spouses totals less than $500,000. The enhanced STAR program gives a bigger tax break to senior citizens with incomes of $79,050 or less."

No love for renters? :(
 
2013-03-01 11:54:13 AM  

Car_Ramrod: What is happening in this headline?


This
 
2013-03-01 12:01:45 PM  

Gulper Eel: Now audit the rest of it. Business tax breaks, food stamps, Medicaid, the MTA, the whole farking lot of it up in that cesspit Albany.

The major news will be if you DON'T find corruption.


Perhaps you didn't read the article. The problem is that the program in question is currently administered by county tax assessors, not by the cesspit.  As a result there is a lack of coordination between the various counties which invites abuse.  By centralizing program administration and returning control to the cesspit, the state expects to save $1M per year.
 
2013-03-01 12:18:02 PM  

Car_Ramrod: What is happening in this headline?


Had to be there, I guess
 
2013-03-01 12:36:19 PM  

skullkrusher: "Basic STAR exemptions are designed for an owner-occupied, primary residence where the income of owners and their spouses totals less than $500,000. The enhanced STAR program gives a bigger tax break to senior citizens with incomes of $79,050 or less."

No love for renters? :(


why would there be? OK fine, you can get a rebate on your property tax bill as well. So thats 10% back of $0 paid, so i will cut you a check for $0.00. Is it ok if i post-date it?
 
2013-03-01 12:43:24 PM  

LemSkroob: skullkrusher: "Basic STAR exemptions are designed for an owner-occupied, primary residence where the income of owners and their spouses totals less than $500,000. The enhanced STAR program gives a bigger tax break to senior citizens with incomes of $79,050 or less."

No love for renters? :(

why would there be? OK fine, you can get a rebate on your property tax bill as well. So thats 10% back of $0 paid, so i will cut you a check for $0.00. Is it ok if i post-date it?


Property tax is a part of the landlord's cost of doing business. As a result, it is in the rent you pay. Landlords may pay the property tax directly but the renter is paying it in reality.
 
2013-03-01 12:53:04 PM  

skullkrusher: LemSkroob: skullkrusher: 
Property tax is a part of the landlord's cost of doing business. As a result, it is in the rent you pay. Landlords may pay the property tax directly but the renter is paying it in reality.



You can't look down the chain like that, because every dollar is connected to every other dollar. Its a loop. You, a butcher, pays $10 for shoes from the smith, who pays $10 for a shirt from the tailor, who pays $10 to the barkeep to settle is tab, who pays you $10 for a steak.

That doesnt mean that you are buying the shirt, shoes, or paying the bar tab, and it most certianly doesnt mean that you should get a rebate on your new shoes because the smith got his shirt from the tailor on sale.

At the end of the day, the STAR program isn't about 'paying people to live in New York' as another poster had said. Its about encouraging home ownership for middle class families. If you arent willing to make that investment into NY, then you dont get the tax break. Its as simple as that.
 
2013-03-01 01:02:18 PM  

LemSkroob: skullkrusher: LemSkroob: skullkrusher: 
Property tax is a part of the landlord's cost of doing business. As a result, it is in the rent you pay. Landlords may pay the property tax directly but the renter is paying it in reality.


You can't look down the chain like that, because every dollar is connected to every other dollar. Its a loop. You, a butcher, pays $10 for shoes from the smith, who pays $10 for a shirt from the tailor, who pays $10 to the barkeep to settle is tab, who pays you $10 for a steak.

That doesnt mean that you are buying the shirt, shoes, or paying the bar tab, and it most certianly doesnt mean that you should get a rebate on your new shoes because the smith got his shirt from the tailor on sale.

At the end of the day, the STAR program isn't about 'paying people to live in New York' as another poster had said. Its about encouraging home ownership for middle class families. If you arent willing to make that investment into NY, then you dont get the tax break. Its as simple as that.


I don't see it as much different than giving a car manufacturer your tax rebate for buying an electric car
 
2013-03-01 03:02:11 PM  
skullkrusher: 
No love for renters? :(
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Property tax is a part of the landlord's cost of doing business. As a result, it is in the rent you pay. Landlords may pay the property tax directly but the renter is paying it in reality.



You answer yourself. If the landlord's taxes were higher then the rent would also be higher. So lower tax rates also benefit the renter.
 
2013-03-01 03:34:15 PM  

Stile4aly: Perhaps you didn't read the article. The problem is that the program in question is currently administered by county tax assessors, not by the cesspit. As a result there is a lack of coordination between the various counties which invites abuse. By centralizing program administration and returning control to the cesspit, the state expects to save $1M per year.


I've seen how Albany exercises 'control'. They'll save a million, hold a press conference to pat themselves on the back, then let 50 million more fly out the door.
 
2013-03-01 04:34:04 PM  
Still a bargain compared to corporate welfare and tax evasion.
 
2013-03-01 10:38:57 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Well, you'd have to pay me to live in New York.

Looks like a few people agree with me


What a coincidence, you'd have to pay them to take you.
 
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