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2013-03-01 10:54:04 AM
3 votes:

Oztemprom: jennies1897: I'm really starting to wonder what horse steak would taste like.

I am so glad I am not the only one.   I wonder, do you cook it like beef, or do you have to hit a chicken temperature?


It cooks exactly like beef. You can cook to pink, rare not recommended. It's flavor profile is sweeter than beef slightly close to venison though not as gamey unless its an pretty old horse. Ground is recommended to well done.

Makes excellent tacos

....I lived in a communal home with migrant and day laborers for a several months. You eat anything that moves when you're at that level of society.
2013-03-01 10:16:38 AM
3 votes:
I don't have a problem with the producing OR selling horse meat in the US for human consumption as long as it's properly labeled.
2013-03-01 02:40:20 PM
2 votes:
I'll enjoy a plate full of herbivore any time, but I'd like to know what herbivore it is.

I will never eat an obligate carnivore (no, I don't eat any kind of fish)

I'm on the fence about omnivores like pigs and accept, with a resigned sigh, that poultry and herbivores get fed animal proteins from some suppliers.

The worrisome thing about the horsemeat scandal is that it means they've lost control of their suppliers. The suppliers are not only cheating them on what species it is, but there's no guarantee the animals were not drugged up, downers, infected, and so on.
2013-03-01 02:28:27 PM
2 votes:

Jarhead_h: Why does this get the "sick" tag?  Horse meat is a viable form of animal protein that can feed people for a profit, and America happens to have an abundance of them.


+1  I've read that the ban also resulted in a lot of animal cruelty.  Basically, before the ban the minimum a horse was worth was it's slaughter price.  When slaughter was banned, that value dropped tremendously.  Often it's not worth it to ship a horse in the north all the way to Mexico.

By putting a minimum price on horses, it made sure that those who were no longer willing or capable of taking care of their horse(s) would be able to dispose of them at some profit, whether by sale to the packing plant or to somebody else who actually keeps them.

With the ban, the price of horses dropped, there's too many for the horse lovers, and horses end up being kept in substandard conditions and sometimes even starved to death.

I'm not saying a packing plant is the nicest thing for horses, but at least it's generally quick.
2013-03-01 01:56:31 PM
2 votes:

Paris1127: The Irresponsible Captain: Really, I've been waiting for this:

[upload.wikimedia.org image 320x240]

You can barely get lamb around here.

Roo is quite good. It's too bad it's hard to get in the States.

/had Kangaroo burgers in Australia


There's an upscale* grocery store near where we live.  The sign by their butcher's counter offers cuts of meat from animals that I'm not sure I've ever actually seen with my own eyes.  Most of them will be frozen, but all of them are raised within a hundred or so miles.

Alligator is on there.  Pretty sure roo is on there.  Bison, of course.  The list goes on for a few columns; I'm slowly working my way through.  I want to take the manager aside and ask in a low voice what his going price for long pig is, or whether he's in the market to take some off my hands.  I know a guy who knows a guy.


* When you walk in, there's a big glass sign hanging over the entranceway with a greeting/motto displayed.  It's in Latin.  The store (small local chain) is in the Terminally First-World** part of the city.  The meat and produce is of fantastic quality, but for everything else we'd be stupid to not go a few blocks further to Kroger/Meijer/etc and pay sane prices for, say, toilet paper.

** Not only mentally incapable of living anything other than a luxury lifestyle, but incapable of understanding how other people do so.  Imagine a town populated by Romney clones.
2013-03-01 10:55:57 AM
2 votes:
If there is one thing I've learn from watching Andrew Zimmern and Anthony Bourdain is that large parts of the world fights daily to get adequate amounts of protein in their diet. And for wussy 1st worlders to say "Ew, that animal is adorable or that part of the animal is gross" is clueless and denigrating.
2013-03-01 10:11:37 AM
2 votes:
I will have no problem eating horse if it is suitable for human consumption.
2013-03-01 10:11:12 AM
2 votes:
Why does this get the "sick" tag?  Horse meat is a viable form of animal protein that can feed people for a profit, and America happens to have an abundance of them.
2013-03-02 07:08:50 PM
1 votes:
Looks like HOTY came early this year.

/TWSS
2013-03-01 10:29:42 PM
1 votes:

Paris1127: The Irresponsible Captain: Really, I've been waiting for this:

[upload.wikimedia.org image 320x240]

You can barely get lamb around here.

Roo is quite good. It's too bad it's hard to get in the States.

/had Kangaroo burgers in Australia


There's an italian burger bistro joint not far from me here in south Florida. They have 'exotics' that they make weekly based on what wierd shiat they can get from local farms.

I've had ostrich, kangaroo, bison, etc there ground medium-rare cook. Farking delicious!
2013-03-01 05:12:29 PM
1 votes:
eventingnation.com

What ponies in threads might look like.
2013-03-01 03:27:25 PM
1 votes:

DarkPascual: Louisiana_Sitar_Club: I Ate Shergar: The Irresponsible Captain: Really, I've been waiting for this:

[upload.wikimedia.org image 320x240]

You can barely get lamb around here.

How about this?
[www.thewanderingfoody.com image 850x567]
(I've seen both for sale)

Ostrich steak?  I'm intrigued.

There was a small boom about ostrich on my country a few years ago, so I had the chance to eat it.

It was more close to beef than chicken in toughness and flavor, but I really liked it.


Yeah, ostrich is actually much closer to beef...and it isn't bad at all.  (Yes, you can get ostrich steaks and ostrich burgers at the state fair on occasion; after tobacco became No Longer Socially Acceptable, a lot of the farmers have gone into either heritage breeds of cattle or exotic farming like bison and ratites--emu being more common than ostrich, usually.)

Closest I've ever had to kangaroo was roo jerky, but based on some descriptions it probably could be fixed up either like elk (aka "Show it fire and not much more than that otherwise it gets tough") or maybe in a pot roast or fixed up like mutton barbecue.  (Pretty much the whole reason barbecue, and Owensboro barbecue in particular, came into being was to make normally tough meat damn tender and tasty :D)
2013-03-01 01:51:07 PM
1 votes:

Captain Steroid: [i1182.photobucket.com image 320x320]


I know muffins are more traditional today, but don't worry, this'll cheer you up.

t2.gstatic.com

Pay no mind to the dash of gelatin used to stabilize the whipped cream.
2013-03-01 01:23:07 PM
1 votes:

Louisiana_Sitar_Club: I Ate Shergar: The Irresponsible Captain: Really, I've been waiting for this:

[upload.wikimedia.org image 320x240]

You can barely get lamb around here.

How about this?
[www.thewanderingfoody.com image 850x567]
(I've seen both for sale)

Ostrich steak?  I'm intrigued.


There was a small boom about ostrich on my country a few years ago, so I had the chance to eat it.

It was more close to beef than chicken in toughness and flavor, but I really liked it.
2013-03-01 11:12:24 AM
1 votes:

drjekel_mrhyde: whistleridge: jennies1897: I'm really starting to wonder what horse steak would taste like.

Meh.

I've had goat, sheep, donkey, horse, monkey, hippo, crocodile, dog, cat, hedgehog, bushrat, muskrat, and a whole slew of antelope-looking critters that I'm not enough of a zoologist to identify. In general, most meat doesn't taste like chicken, it tastes like goat. Or like what it eats.

So...

Dog tastes like tough goat, but is tougher.
Cat tastes like goat, with a weird stringy flavor (but that could be because African cats eat weird things).
Donkey tastes like goat, but is blander and very very tough (donkeys in developing countries lead hard lives)
Horse tastes like a cross between goat and beef, and is also quite bland.
etc, etc

Damn you took this sign to heart [i.imgur.com image 500x260]


My dinner one night:

s9.postimage.org

And breakfast the next morning:

s24.postimage.org

/ the Peace Corps may be tough at times, but it gives you *great* stories
2013-03-01 11:02:48 AM
1 votes:

whistleridge: jennies1897: I'm really starting to wonder what horse steak would taste like.

Meh.

I've had goat, sheep, donkey, horse, monkey, hippo, crocodile, dog, cat, hedgehog, bushrat, muskrat, and a whole slew of antelope-looking critters that I'm not enough of a zoologist to identify. In general, most meat doesn't taste like chicken, it tastes like goat. Or like what it eats.

So...

Dog tastes like tough goat, but is tougher.
Cat tastes like goat, with a weird stringy flavor (but that could be because African cats eat weird things).
Donkey tastes like goat, but is blander and very very tough (donkeys in developing countries lead hard lives)
Horse tastes like a cross between goat and beef, and is also quite bland.
etc, etc


Damn you took this sign to heart i.imgur.com
2013-03-01 11:01:25 AM
1 votes:

The Irresponsible Captain: Really, I've been waiting for this:

[upload.wikimedia.org image 320x240]

You can barely get lamb around here.


How about this?
www.thewanderingfoody.com
(I've seen both for sale)
2013-03-01 10:57:11 AM
1 votes:

jennies1897: I'm really starting to wonder what horse steak would taste like.


Meh.

I've had goat, sheep, donkey, horse, monkey, hippo, crocodile, dog, cat, hedgehog, bushrat, muskrat, and a whole slew of antelope-looking critters that I'm not enough of a zoologist to identify. In general, most meat doesn't taste like chicken, it tastes like goat. Or like what it eats.

So...

Dog tastes like tough goat, but is tougher.
Cat tastes like goat, with a weird stringy flavor (but that could be because African cats eat weird things).
Donkey tastes like goat, but is blander and very very tough (donkeys in developing countries lead hard lives)
Horse tastes like a cross between goat and beef, and is also quite bland.
etc, etc
2013-03-01 10:56:49 AM
1 votes:
Quit 'yer equining! It won't be a problem furlong.
2013-03-01 10:50:29 AM
1 votes:

FullMetalPanda: Jarhead_h: Why does this get the "sick" tag?  Horse meat is a viable form of animal protein that can feed people for a profit, and America happens to have an abundance of them.

They are ripping people off and lying to them.  horse meat is cheaper than cow meat.  You pay for cow meat and they substitute it with the cheaper horse meat, you are OK with that?  If so why don't you give me your account info and I'll withdraw everything and send you a couple thousand pennies.  I mean it's the same thing right?


So far, I've not seen an example of that in the States.  I'm with a few others in this thread - as long as you label it appropriately, let the consumers decide.  If they don't want horsemeat, then the market will dry up here.
2013-03-01 10:50:28 AM
1 votes:
Headline of the Year nominee
2013-03-01 10:20:20 AM
1 votes:
Really, I've been waiting for this:

upload.wikimedia.org

You can barely get lamb around here.
2013-03-01 10:19:18 AM
1 votes:

AxemRed: I don't have a problem with the producing OR selling horse meat in the US for human consumption as long as it's properly labeled.


This. Use them for meat, use them for leather, use them for whatever. Just label it.


/the best shoes are horse-hide already
2013-03-01 10:19:06 AM
1 votes:
People only get upset when other people eat the cute animals.
2013-03-01 10:18:57 AM
1 votes:
This steak still has marks where the jockey was hittin' it!


plaidurday.com


pic is borrowed
2013-03-01 10:17:37 AM
1 votes:
I read that as Equestration.  Goddamn politics.
2013-03-01 10:15:58 AM
1 votes:

FullMetalPanda: Jarhead_h: Why does this get the "sick" tag?  Horse meat is a viable form of animal protein that can feed people for a profit, and America happens to have an abundance of them.

They are ripping people off and lying to them.  horse meat is cheaper than cow meat.  You pay for cow meat and they substitute it with the cheaper horse meat, you are OK with that?  If so why don't you give me your account info and I'll withdraw everything and send you a couple thousand pennies.  I mean it's the same thing right?


That's what you came away with after reading TFA?
2013-03-01 10:15:34 AM
1 votes:
subby, you nagnificent bastard.
2013-03-01 10:12:25 AM
1 votes:
Roswell.

Aliens.

Animal slaughter.
2013-03-01 10:10:44 AM
1 votes:
Why the "Sick" tag?
2013-03-01 10:09:36 AM
1 votes:
content6.flixster.com
2013-03-01 06:02:46 AM
1 votes:
+1
 
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