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2013-03-01 11:02:48 AM

whistleridge: jennies1897: I'm really starting to wonder what horse steak would taste like.

Meh.

I've had goat, sheep, donkey, horse, monkey, hippo, crocodile, dog, cat, hedgehog, bushrat, muskrat, and a whole slew of antelope-looking critters that I'm not enough of a zoologist to identify. In general, most meat doesn't taste like chicken, it tastes like goat. Or like what it eats.

So...

Dog tastes like tough goat, but is tougher.
Cat tastes like goat, with a weird stringy flavor (but that could be because African cats eat weird things).
Donkey tastes like goat, but is blander and very very tough (donkeys in developing countries lead hard lives)
Horse tastes like a cross between goat and beef, and is also quite bland.
etc, etc


Damn you took this sign to heart i.imgur.com
 
2013-03-01 11:12:24 AM

drjekel_mrhyde: whistleridge: jennies1897: I'm really starting to wonder what horse steak would taste like.

Meh.

I've had goat, sheep, donkey, horse, monkey, hippo, crocodile, dog, cat, hedgehog, bushrat, muskrat, and a whole slew of antelope-looking critters that I'm not enough of a zoologist to identify. In general, most meat doesn't taste like chicken, it tastes like goat. Or like what it eats.

So...

Dog tastes like tough goat, but is tougher.
Cat tastes like goat, with a weird stringy flavor (but that could be because African cats eat weird things).
Donkey tastes like goat, but is blander and very very tough (donkeys in developing countries lead hard lives)
Horse tastes like a cross between goat and beef, and is also quite bland.
etc, etc

Damn you took this sign to heart [i.imgur.com image 500x260]


My dinner one night:

s9.postimage.org

And breakfast the next morning:

s24.postimage.org

/ the Peace Corps may be tough at times, but it gives you *great* stories
 
2013-03-01 11:18:33 AM
Bravo!
 
2013-03-01 11:18:45 AM
You've probably eaten horse on more than one occasion and just never realized it. Now, I can understand not wanting to eat your friend Flicka, but as far as it being disgusting - no. Unless you're a vegan or something. Otherwise flesh is flesh. The only difference is what sentimental value we place on the creature from whence it came.

/yes, I'm advocating cannibalism here
 
2013-03-01 11:37:55 AM

drjekel_mrhyde: [i.imgur.com image 600x446]


I am LOL
 
2013-03-01 11:47:02 AM

MyKingdomForYourHorse: Ground is recommended to well done.


Aww, shucks.  And I wanted a mid-rare horseburger.
 
2013-03-01 11:48:06 AM

King Keepo: So have they started testing everything in the US for horsey flavours yet? Given that a lot is produced in Mexico I find it unlikely that our friends across the pond aren't enjoying a few equine edibles as well.


Not that much slaughtered meat comes from Mexico.

We do import live cattle from Mexico, but we do have COOL* requirements. If you're worried, look at the label.


* Country of Origin Labeling
 
2013-03-01 11:49:41 AM

tricycleracer: Aww, shucks. And I wanted a mid-rare horseburger.


You can do it, its just not recommended
 
2013-03-01 11:50:54 AM

MyKingdomForYourHorse: tricycleracer: Aww, shucks. And I wanted a mid-rare horseburger.

You can do it, its just not recommended


I've ordered a buffalo burger mid-rare before.  What's the rules on that?
 
2013-03-01 11:53:21 AM
i1182.photobucket.com
 
2013-03-01 12:03:01 PM
If animals weren't supposed to be eaten, they wouldn't be made of meat.  I'd eat a dirty old urine soaked hobo if I was hungry enough... who cares if we eat the occasional horse?


headline = awesome x 2!
 
2013-03-01 12:05:27 PM

tricycleracer: I've ordered a buffalo burger mid-rare before. What's the rules on that?


Same as beef, mostly safe just not recommended
 
2013-03-01 12:17:46 PM

DirkNiggla: If animals weren't supposed to be eaten, they wouldn't be made of meat.  I'd eat a dirty old urine soaked hobo if I was hungry enough... who cares if we eat the occasional horse?


headline = awesome x 2!


Hopefully you'll wash the hobo first though.
 
2013-03-01 12:24:46 PM
s24.postimage.org
 
2013-03-01 12:26:45 PM

stonicus: s24.postimage.org


That pic has been getting a lot of tread this week
 
2013-03-01 12:30:13 PM

IExpectAKill: Overheard at the bar a few days ago:  "If horses are so smart then why are they getting eaten?"



Exactly. And if dolphins are so smart, why do they live in igloos?
 
2013-03-01 12:36:25 PM

I Ate Shergar: The Irresponsible Captain: Really, I've been waiting for this:

[upload.wikimedia.org image 320x240]

You can barely get lamb around here.

How about this?
[www.thewanderingfoody.com image 850x567]
(I've seen both for sale)


Ostrich steak?  I'm intrigued.
 
2013-03-01 12:39:06 PM

Jarhead_h: Why does this get the "sick" tag?  Horse meat is a viable form of animal protein that can feed people for a profit, and America happens to have an abundance of them.


So you don't mind if the company who sells you "beef" is actually substituting all kinds of inferior materials in place of your "beef"? Today it's horse. Tomorrow it's ratmeat and sawdust. Enjoy!
 
2013-03-01 12:42:00 PM
Ostrich steak is a little like bald eagle steak, only smaller, and not quite as gamey tasting as owl.
 
2013-03-01 12:45:45 PM

Jument: Jarhead_h: Why does this get the "sick" tag?  Horse meat is a viable form of animal protein that can feed people for a profit, and America happens to have an abundance of them.

So you don't mind if the company who sells you "beef" is actually substituting all kinds of inferior materials in place of your "beef"? Today it's horse. Tomorrow it's ratmeat and sawdust. Enjoy!


Ok so maybe I should have RTFA. I assumed this was yet another "horse DNA found in beef/pork" story.

Personally I wouldn't buy or eat horse but if properly labeled I guess this is ok. I don't like it any more than I would like if it were cute little kittens though.
 
2013-03-01 12:50:36 PM
Was hoping someone would post the Walking Dead Episode Pic of zombies eating the horse

\Leaving disappointed
 
2013-03-01 12:56:57 PM

drjekel_mrhyde: whistleridge: jennies1897: I'm really starting to wonder what horse steak would taste like.

Meh.

I've had goat, sheep, donkey, horse, monkey, hippo, crocodile, dog, cat, hedgehog, bushrat, muskrat, and a whole slew of antelope-looking critters that I'm not enough of a zoologist to identify. In general, most meat doesn't taste like chicken, it tastes like goat. Or like what it eats.

So...

Dog tastes like tough goat, but is tougher.
Cat tastes like goat, with a weird stringy flavor (but that could be because African cats eat weird things).
Donkey tastes like goat, but is blander and very very tough (donkeys in developing countries lead hard lives)
Horse tastes like a cross between goat and beef, and is also quite bland.
etc, etc

Damn you took this sign to heart [i.imgur.com image 500x260]


A1 for the horse steak then...I've never had goat either. I am so sheltered.
 
2013-03-01 01:05:10 PM
Truly superb headline, subby!

ION, I wonder how Ned Beatty is celebrating National Pig Day.
 
2013-03-01 01:13:01 PM

Louisiana_Sitar_Club: Ostrich steak? I'm intrigued.


It's OK.  I'd prefer beef.  Or bison or goat or venison or boar, etc. Very lean, so don't go crazy.

.I've never had goat either. I am so sheltered.

It's wonderful.  Go to a Pakistani or Jamaican place.  Mmmm, goat roti.
 
2013-03-01 01:15:56 PM

SlagginOff: I will have no problem eating horse if it is suitable for human consumption.


This. I have had horse before. It wasn't bad. (CSB Time)

My landlady in Belgium (who didn't speak English) took my wife and I out to lunch. She ordered food for everyone. While we were eating, we asked what the food was. She said something in French, which we didn't understand, so she translated it to "neigh."

The butcher shop 2 blocks from my house featured a picture of a horse head next to a cow's, a pig's and a chicken's.
 
2013-03-01 01:23:07 PM

Louisiana_Sitar_Club: I Ate Shergar: The Irresponsible Captain: Really, I've been waiting for this:

[upload.wikimedia.org image 320x240]

You can barely get lamb around here.

How about this?
[www.thewanderingfoody.com image 850x567]
(I've seen both for sale)

Ostrich steak?  I'm intrigued.


There was a small boom about ostrich on my country a few years ago, so I had the chance to eat it.

It was more close to beef than chicken in toughness and flavor, but I really liked it.
 
2013-03-01 01:30:35 PM

whistleridge: My dinner one night:

[s9.postimage.org image 850x637]

And breakfast the next morning:

[s24.postimage.org image 850x637]

/ the Peace Corps may be tough at times, but it gives you *great* stories


Suddenly, right now, on the spot, I learned something about myself:

I don't think I could eat anything with opposable thumbs.

If you had asked me this morning I'd've been like, enh, sure, throw some pepper on it and I'll eat anything.  Now?  Opposable thumbs may be out.  I didn't know that earlier.  Thank you for assisting me on this brief voyage of self-discovery.

/probably would relax that "rule" in a hurry if I were starving
//starving like most of the world starves, not "starving" like "zomg it's been 3 hours since my last twinkie"
 
2013-03-01 01:34:00 PM

The Irresponsible Captain: Really, I've been waiting for this:

[upload.wikimedia.org image 320x240]

You can barely get lamb around here.


Roo is quite good. It's too bad it's hard to get in the States.

/had Kangaroo burgers in Australia
 
2013-03-01 01:50:11 PM
For some reason, I heard Mike Tyson reading this headline in my mind.  Then I had to watch Mike Tyson's Brunch Out.
 
2013-03-01 01:51:07 PM

Captain Steroid: [i1182.photobucket.com image 320x320]


I know muffins are more traditional today, but don't worry, this'll cheer you up.

t2.gstatic.com

Pay no mind to the dash of gelatin used to stabilize the whipped cream.
 
2013-03-01 01:56:04 PM
Living in London, I figure I must have ingested some horsemeat by now. I have to say: it's pretty f*cking good
 
2013-03-01 01:56:31 PM

Paris1127: The Irresponsible Captain: Really, I've been waiting for this:

[upload.wikimedia.org image 320x240]

You can barely get lamb around here.

Roo is quite good. It's too bad it's hard to get in the States.

/had Kangaroo burgers in Australia


There's an upscale* grocery store near where we live.  The sign by their butcher's counter offers cuts of meat from animals that I'm not sure I've ever actually seen with my own eyes.  Most of them will be frozen, but all of them are raised within a hundred or so miles.

Alligator is on there.  Pretty sure roo is on there.  Bison, of course.  The list goes on for a few columns; I'm slowly working my way through.  I want to take the manager aside and ask in a low voice what his going price for long pig is, or whether he's in the market to take some off my hands.  I know a guy who knows a guy.


* When you walk in, there's a big glass sign hanging over the entranceway with a greeting/motto displayed.  It's in Latin.  The store (small local chain) is in the Terminally First-World** part of the city.  The meat and produce is of fantastic quality, but for everything else we'd be stupid to not go a few blocks further to Kroger/Meijer/etc and pay sane prices for, say, toilet paper.

** Not only mentally incapable of living anything other than a luxury lifestyle, but incapable of understanding how other people do so.  Imagine a town populated by Romney clones.
 
2013-03-01 01:57:58 PM

The Irresponsible Captain: Really, I've been waiting for this:



You can barely get lamb around here.


There's a specialty butcher two towns over that carries kangaroo. I made the mistake of trying to grill shishkabobs.

The meat is waaaaay to lean and tough. Should have made stew.
 
2013-03-01 02:02:11 PM
www.brobible.com
 
2013-03-01 02:04:37 PM

Carn: DirkNiggla: If animals weren't supposed to be eaten, they wouldn't be made of meat.  I'd eat a dirty old urine soaked hobo if I was hungry enough... who cares if we eat the occasional horse?


headline = awesome x 2!

Hopefully you'll wash the hobo first though.


Urine is like a good brine soak, too long of a soak and it's too salty, not long enough and the meat is bland.  Just hope the hobo had some Boone's Farm/Ripple and maybe you'll get a nice hint of delish!  I also like to leave the dirt on them, it's kinda like an unwashed baked potato... it adds flavor.
 
2013-03-01 02:28:27 PM

Jarhead_h: Why does this get the "sick" tag?  Horse meat is a viable form of animal protein that can feed people for a profit, and America happens to have an abundance of them.


+1  I've read that the ban also resulted in a lot of animal cruelty.  Basically, before the ban the minimum a horse was worth was it's slaughter price.  When slaughter was banned, that value dropped tremendously.  Often it's not worth it to ship a horse in the north all the way to Mexico.

By putting a minimum price on horses, it made sure that those who were no longer willing or capable of taking care of their horse(s) would be able to dispose of them at some profit, whether by sale to the packing plant or to somebody else who actually keeps them.

With the ban, the price of horses dropped, there's too many for the horse lovers, and horses end up being kept in substandard conditions and sometimes even starved to death.

I'm not saying a packing plant is the nicest thing for horses, but at least it's generally quick.
 
2013-03-01 02:40:20 PM
I'll enjoy a plate full of herbivore any time, but I'd like to know what herbivore it is.

I will never eat an obligate carnivore (no, I don't eat any kind of fish)

I'm on the fence about omnivores like pigs and accept, with a resigned sigh, that poultry and herbivores get fed animal proteins from some suppliers.

The worrisome thing about the horsemeat scandal is that it means they've lost control of their suppliers. The suppliers are not only cheating them on what species it is, but there's no guarantee the animals were not drugged up, downers, infected, and so on.
 
2013-03-01 02:50:15 PM
whistleridge:

s24.postimage.org

/ the Peace Corps may be tough at times, but it gives you *great* stories

That photo looks 'shopped. I know because there are no flies in the soup...

/RPV Guatemala '77
 
2013-03-01 03:20:49 PM
www.kraftfuttermischwerk.de
 
2013-03-01 03:21:57 PM

ChubbyTiger: Louisiana_Sitar_Club: Ostrich steak? I'm intrigued.

It's OK.  I'd prefer beef.  Or bison or goat or venison or boar, etc. Very lean, so don't go crazy.

.I've never had goat either. I am so sheltered.

It's wonderful.  Go to a Pakistani or Jamaican place.  Mmmm, goat roti.


Or, failing that, a decent Cuban place or a carniceria or a good Indian (naan not frybread, the place I hit up for goat specialises in southern Indian) place can serve all your capra-nomming needs.

(Hell, I've sometimes wondered how good old Owensboro-style barbecue would work with goat rather than mutton. :3)
 
2013-03-01 03:27:25 PM

DarkPascual: Louisiana_Sitar_Club: I Ate Shergar: The Irresponsible Captain: Really, I've been waiting for this:

[upload.wikimedia.org image 320x240]

You can barely get lamb around here.

How about this?
[www.thewanderingfoody.com image 850x567]
(I've seen both for sale)

Ostrich steak?  I'm intrigued.

There was a small boom about ostrich on my country a few years ago, so I had the chance to eat it.

It was more close to beef than chicken in toughness and flavor, but I really liked it.


Yeah, ostrich is actually much closer to beef...and it isn't bad at all.  (Yes, you can get ostrich steaks and ostrich burgers at the state fair on occasion; after tobacco became No Longer Socially Acceptable, a lot of the farmers have gone into either heritage breeds of cattle or exotic farming like bison and ratites--emu being more common than ostrich, usually.)

Closest I've ever had to kangaroo was roo jerky, but based on some descriptions it probably could be fixed up either like elk (aka "Show it fire and not much more than that otherwise it gets tough") or maybe in a pot roast or fixed up like mutton barbecue.  (Pretty much the whole reason barbecue, and Owensboro barbecue in particular, came into being was to make normally tough meat damn tender and tasty :D)
 
2013-03-01 03:35:08 PM
Oh HELL yeah

2013 has been the year of the best headlines on Fark in its history

/And, on the flip side, it also is the year of the shiattiest headlines getting green for some god unknown reason
 
2013-03-01 05:12:29 PM
eventingnation.com

What ponies in threads might look like.
 
2013-03-01 05:16:24 PM
"How's the headline, James Franco?"

"... soooooooooooo good."

+1
 
2013-03-01 05:50:07 PM

Kraftwerk Orange: [eventingnation.com image 500x332]

What ponies in threads might look like.


media.tumblr.com
 
2013-03-01 06:56:33 PM
LOL!
Total WIN, subby.


stonicus: [s24.postimage.org image 301x167]


Hahaha, perfect.


I Ate Shergar: The Irresponsible Captain: Really, I've been waiting for this:

[upload.wikimedia.org image 320x240]

You can barely get lamb around here.

How about this?
[www.thewanderingfoody.com image 850x567]
(I've seen both for sale)


I've never tried it, but I hear kangaroo is pretty gamey.  Bleh.  I've had ostrich, though, and it is really very delicious.  Very lean, but pretty beefy in flavor.  Had it at an actual small ostrich farm; the people who ran the farm basically invited us into their house for lunch.  Was some of the best food I had while I was in Thailand.
 
2013-03-01 08:23:34 PM

Stone Meadow: whistleridge:

[s24.postimage.org image 850x637]

/ the Peace Corps may be tough at times, but it gives you *great* stories

That photo looks 'shopped. I know because there are no flies in the soup...

/RPV Guatemala '77


Nah. No flies in the Sahel. We got mosquitoes in the rainy season, but no flies. Thank God.
 
2013-03-01 09:10:33 PM

whistleridge: Stone Meadow: whistleridge:

[s24.postimage.org image 850x637]

/ the Peace Corps may be tough at times, but it gives you *great* stories

That photo looks 'shopped. I know because there are no flies in the soup...

/RPV Guatemala '77

Nah. No flies in the Sahel. We got mosquitoes in the rainy season, but no flies. Thank God.


The first job they offered me was drilling wells in Burkina Faso, but the report time was just a few weeks and I couldn't quit my job and be ready that quickly, so opted for a second offer. It was as an ag teacher and extension agent in Guatemala with a report time of 4 months, and since I had plenty of family farming experience and a zoology degree, I went for it. Lived on the edge of the Peten, and loved it...except for the civil war and the nervous military.
 
2013-03-01 10:08:25 PM
good headline
 
2013-03-01 10:29:42 PM

Paris1127: The Irresponsible Captain: Really, I've been waiting for this:

[upload.wikimedia.org image 320x240]

You can barely get lamb around here.

Roo is quite good. It's too bad it's hard to get in the States.

/had Kangaroo burgers in Australia


There's an italian burger bistro joint not far from me here in south Florida. They have 'exotics' that they make weekly based on what wierd shiat they can get from local farms.

I've had ostrich, kangaroo, bison, etc there ground medium-rare cook. Farking delicious!
 
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