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2013-03-01 08:25:31 AM  
This of course will turn out well
 
2013-03-01 08:28:45 AM  
He carved his website from a block of wood.
 
2013-03-01 08:29:34 AM  
Must be that guy from Asheville (checks story). Yep.

That's the problem with Asheville, same as Chapel Hill. The hippies moved to both towns around the same time (60s for Chapel Hill, 70s for Asheville) and made the towns "cool" to outsiders. So the outsiders moved there, and brought with them the same laws, regulations, and taxes they left (wherever) to escape. Chapel Hill is now filled with assholes from the northeast, Asheville is now filled with assholes from Florida. All the hippies left Chapel Hill ages ago (mostly to Carrboro, which now suffers from the twin plague of hipsters and smugsters) and Asheville is rapidly becoming the most expensive town in the state to live in, even surpassing Nags Head.

My advice to this guy is to move even further back into the woods - perhaps Montana.
 
2013-03-01 08:31:15 AM  
Buzzkills.
 
2013-03-01 08:31:25 AM  
"This is supposed to be the land of the free. Government is supposed to help people, protect their individual liberties and freedom -- that's not what's happening here,"

He sounds like one of those racist, tea party, anti-government types looking for his Somalian utopia that the progressives are always warning us about. If you look at the photo in the article you will see that he is a white male so the big government progressives are probably right.
 
2013-03-01 08:31:47 AM  

OldManDownDRoad: Must be that guy from Asheville (checks story). Yep.

That's the problem with Asheville, same as Chapel Hill. The hippies moved to both towns around the same time (60s for Chapel Hill, 70s for Asheville) and made the towns "cool" to outsiders. So the outsiders moved there, and brought with them the same laws, regulations, and taxes they left (wherever) to escape. Chapel Hill is now filled with assholes from the northeast, Asheville is now filled with assholes from Florida. All the hippies left Chapel Hill ages ago (mostly to Carrboro, which now suffers from the twin plague of hipsters and smugsters) and Asheville is rapidly becoming the most expensive town in the state to live in, even surpassing Nags Head.

My advice to this guy is to move even further back into the woods - perhaps Montana.


The NC woods are pretty deep.  Try Cullowhee.
 
2013-03-01 08:32:17 AM  
Compound?
 
2013-03-01 08:32:41 AM  
I hope this guy wins. Seems like a cool dude.
 
2013-03-01 08:34:20 AM  
More like the government don't want to get sued if some asshat dies in hut collapse
 
2013-03-01 08:34:29 AM  
magazine.seymourprojects.com
 
2013-03-01 08:35:21 AM  
They say they are conerned about peoples safety,.but ill bet no one has.ever gotten hurt hanging out with this guy.
 
2013-03-01 08:35:33 AM  
I ran in to Eustace a few times at local farmers markets. Nice enough guy who just wants to be left alone and do his own thing. Kind of a cross between a hermit and a hippie.

I'm surprised the county is farking with him, though. It's generally understood that the government doesn't mess with the mountain folks as long as they stay on their hills and in their hollars.

CSB
 
2013-03-01 08:36:24 AM  
But that's his side of the mountain...
 
2013-03-01 08:37:03 AM  
" Government is supposed to help people,protect their individual liberties and freedom -- that's not what's happening here,"

Yeah they are trying to protect people who attend your 'school' from having your shoddy buildings fall on them. If you only wanted to endanger yourself, have at it, but you are running a business and with that needs to come some basic standards/permitting requirements
 
2013-03-01 08:37:08 AM  

drjekel_mrhyde: More like the government don't want to get sued if some asshat dies in hut collapse


Right, so, private property is the responsibility of the government.
 
2013-03-01 08:37:33 AM  
He can live in a lean-to if he wants.

But if he wants to take money from people to teach them then he's involved in the commerce system which is regulated by the government.

Sorry.
 
2013-03-01 08:38:14 AM  

no talent ass clown: I ran in to Eustace a few times at local farmers markets. Nice enough guy who just wants to be left alone and do his own thing. Kind of a cross between a hermit and a hippie.

I'm surprised the county is farking with him, though. It's generally understood that the government doesn't mess with the mountain folks as long as they stay on their hills and in their hollars.

CSB


When his hut turned into a business he crossed a fairly obvious line.
 
2013-03-01 08:38:24 AM  
North Carolina? Wouldn't that technically make him a 'hill-billy', rather than a 'mountain man'?
 
2013-03-01 08:39:30 AM  

Bad_Seed: North Carolina? Wouldn't that technically make him a 'hill-billy', rather than a 'mountain man'?


Please. We prefer "Alto-American."
 
2013-03-01 08:40:06 AM  
Damn Hills Have Eyes people. I guess the lampshades made of hiker's skin are not up to the fire code.
 
2013-03-01 08:40:54 AM  

earthworm2.0: drjekel_mrhyde: More like the government don't want to get sued if some asshat dies in hut collapse

Right, so, private property is the responsibility of the government.


It's gotten so bad that the government forces restaurants to follow sanitation rules. They make bus companies have only licensed drivers. Nightclubs have occupancy limits. Where does the nanny state end?
 
2013-03-01 08:41:24 AM  

earthworm2.0: drjekel_mrhyde: More like the government don't want to get sued if some asshat dies in hut collapse

Right, so, private property is the responsibility of the government.


Ever had a housefire?
 
2013-03-01 08:42:25 AM  

OldManDownDRoad: Bad_Seed: North Carolina? Wouldn't that technically make him a 'hill-billy', rather than a 'mountain man'?

Please. We prefer "Alto-American."


Watch out for this guy. He's curiously strong.
 
2013-03-01 08:42:34 AM  

Gifted Many Few: Damn Hills Have Eyes people. I guess the lampshades made of hiker's skin are not up to the fire code.


Its not so much that they are made from hiker's skin, its the human fat lamps that's the issue
 
2013-03-01 08:43:04 AM  
media.screened.com

Git off mah land!
 
2013-03-01 08:43:47 AM  
May or may not be the man in question:

images.hitfix.com
 
2013-03-01 08:44:22 AM  
Looks like reality has set in.
 
2013-03-01 08:44:22 AM  

OldManDownDRoad: Must be that guy from Asheville (checks story). Yep.

That's the problem with Asheville, same as Chapel Hill. The hippies moved to both towns around the same time (60s for Chapel Hill, 70s for Asheville) and made the towns "cool" to outsiders. So the outsiders moved there, and brought with them the same laws, regulations, and taxes they left (wherever) to escape. Chapel Hill is now filled with assholes from the northeast, Asheville is now filled with assholes from Florida. All the hippies left Chapel Hill ages ago (mostly to Carrboro, which now suffers from the twin plague of hipsters and smugsters) and Asheville is rapidly becoming the most expensive town in the state to live in, even surpassing Nags Head.

My advice to this guy is to move even further back into the woods - perhaps Montana.


freedom is a state of mind. and a back porch built on your house in 1964 will not be up to code in 2013. along the way people were hurt, got crippled and died due to porch related accidents and mishaps. because we are not idiots we apply what we learn and make the back porch a safer porch. building codes are updated.

my 1961 (?) Plymouth Belvedere came from the factory with no seat belts, no exterior mirrors, no head rests, few pollution restriction devices and the dashboard was metal. compare this with what you find on todays car lot.

surprised you haven't noticed these things by yourself.
 
2013-03-01 08:45:20 AM  
I hope they don't send in the police, ATF & FBI to burn his place down.
 
2013-03-01 08:45:43 AM  

Pelvic Splanchnic Ganglion: Compound?


That's what the government and news media call your house when you're a troublemaker, a malcontent or a "terrorist."
Otherwise, it's just a house.
 
2013-03-01 08:46:44 AM  
Should they force him to comply with modern building codes and shut his school down if he can't comply?  I don't think so.

Should they force him to take out a liability insurance policy, and have his students sign a waiver acknowledging that the buildings don't meet NC building codes, and by entering said buildings they are taking their safety into their own hands?  Certainly, but that won't earn the local gov't any money, and since he was on TV, he's gotta have money now right?
 
2013-03-01 08:47:27 AM  

Not_The_Target_Market: [magazine.seymourprojects.com image 374x568]


No TV no beer make Homer something something
 
2013-03-01 08:49:52 AM  
It would be nice if they listed at least some of the code violations.

If they want to make sure a lodge (large cabin) has an emergency exit then that's not particularly onerous.

If the lodge has no electricity and they're saying he needs grounded outlets, then that is.
 
2013-03-01 08:52:00 AM  

Sybarite: [media.screened.com image 320x240]

Git off mah land!


Came into the thread for New Feeland reference.

/leaving satisfied.
 
2013-03-01 08:52:27 AM  

Archae hippy: OldManDownDRoad: Must be that guy from Asheville (checks story). Yep.

That's the problem with Asheville, same as Chapel Hill. The hippies moved to both towns around the same time (60s for Chapel Hill, 70s for Asheville) and made the towns "cool" to outsiders. So the outsiders moved there, and brought with them the same laws, regulations, and taxes they left (wherever) to escape. Chapel Hill is now filled with assholes from the northeast, Asheville is now filled with assholes from Florida. All the hippies left Chapel Hill ages ago (mostly to Carrboro, which now suffers from the twin plague of hipsters and smugsters) and Asheville is rapidly becoming the most expensive town in the state to live in, even surpassing Nags Head.

My advice to this guy is to move even further back into the woods - perhaps Montana.

The NC woods are pretty deep.  Try Cullowhee.


Can't be that deep, they have a UNC-system school (allegedly), which means they should have a couple big expensive buildings for sports and such, plus maybe a classroom or two.

But he can always hang out in Eric Rudolph's old place.
 
2013-03-01 08:53:43 AM  

OldManDownDRoad: Must be that guy from Asheville (checks story). Yep.


Nope. Boone / Watauga county. He was also recently arrested for harassing his neighbors, which kind of hurt his support locally.  It's also interesting that the local state senator, Republican Dan Soucek supports him based on small government, do what you want with your own property type principles.
 
2013-03-01 08:57:51 AM  
Might be a good time for this fella to buy a couple of fire extingushers.
 
2013-03-01 08:58:40 AM  
Declare you are Amish.
Sue for infringement of your beliefs.
Profit.
 
2013-03-01 08:59:30 AM  

Skarekrough: He can live in a lean-to if he wants.

But if he wants to take money from people to teach them then he's involved in the commerce system which is regulated by the government.

Sorry.


Yeah, this is really the in and out of it. If he wants to be in business, he needs to build a "classroom" that is up to code. He can live however he likes.
 
2013-03-01 08:59:42 AM  

OldManDownDRoad: The hippies moved to both towns around the same time (60s for Chapel Hill, 70s for Asheville)


Hippies?
You mean "Ice Hoes"
 
2013-03-01 09:00:03 AM  

Skarekrough: earthworm2.0: drjekel_mrhyde: More like the government don't want to get sued if some asshat dies in hut collapse

Right, so, private property is the responsibility of the government.

Ever had a housefire?


Ever try to sue the fire department for not responding fast enough?  Guess what?  They aren't legally responsible, just like the police aren't legally responsible if you get killed, raped, or injured, even if you warned them specifically that there was a high probability it would happen.
 
2013-03-01 09:01:08 AM  

OldManDownDRoad: Bad_Seed: North Carolina? Wouldn't that technically make him a 'hill-billy', rather than a 'mountain man'?

Please. We prefer "Alto-American."


Don't get mad at us for not knowing that, we can barely understand your high-pitched voices.
 
2013-03-01 09:01:33 AM  

OldManDownDRoad: they have a UNC-system school (allegedly)


AppState is actually hugely selective, unlike the diploma mills down in Chapel Hill and Raleigh ;-)
 
2013-03-01 09:01:45 AM  

Happy Hours: It would be nice if they listed at least some of the code violations.

If they want to make sure a lodge (large cabin) has an emergency exit then that's not particularly onerous.

If the lodge has no electricity and they're saying he needs grounded outlets, then that is.


What if he just holds his classes outdoors?  No harm no foul then.
 
2013-03-01 09:04:45 AM  
Where can I get some of those organic, all-natural bolt cutters?
 
2013-03-01 09:10:25 AM  

lostcat: Where can I get some of those organic, all-natural bolt cutters?


At the local market.  Look for the table with the sign that says "Fair Trade."
 
2013-03-01 09:11:32 AM  

hasty ambush: "This is supposed to be the land of the free. Government is supposed to help people, protect their individual liberties and freedom -- that's not what's happening here,"

He sounds like one of those racist, tea party, anti-government types looking for his Somalian utopia that the progressives are always warning us about. If you look at the photo in the article you will see that he is a white male so the big government progressives are probably right.


Or he's just a guy trying to live his life in the woods and just wants the government to leave him alone and let him live the way he wants to. It doesn't seem to matter which side of the political spectrum you're on, people seem to think that government regulation over one's lifestyle is just fine and dandy as long as it's not MY lifestyle. (See also: gay marriage)

I get the need for regulations and building codes, especially in densely populated areas. The problem is that many times these laws are "one size fits all" and fail to realize that urban and rural areas are different. I live way out in the middle of flyover land, and we don't have building inspections. If you want to build something, just build it. No permits, no inspections, nothing. Somehow we manage to get by without having 100% of our population die in catastrophic building failures. Would that model work in downtown NYC? Absolutely not. Nobody wants a skyscraper falling on their heads. This isn't NYC though. This is the middle of nowhere. These people are trying to force city regulation onto a country boy, and that just never fits.
 
2013-03-01 09:11:50 AM  

dittybopper: Skarekrough: earthworm2.0: drjekel_mrhyde: More like the government don't want to get sued if some asshat dies in hut collapse

Right, so, private property is the responsibility of the government.

Ever had a housefire?

Ever try to sue the fire department for not responding fast enough?  Guess what?  They aren't legally responsible, just like the police aren't legally responsible if you get killed, raped, or injured, even if you warned them specifically that there was a high probability it would happen.



The fire department is there to keep the fire from spreading, not to save your stuff.
The police are there to arrest criminals after they have commited a crime, not to save your ass.
 
2013-03-01 09:13:24 AM  

tommyl66: OldManDownDRoad: Bad_Seed: North Carolina? Wouldn't that technically make him a 'hill-billy', rather than a 'mountain man'?

Please. We prefer "Alto-American."

Don't get mad at us for not knowing that, we can barely understand your high-pitched voices.


That would be Soprano-Americans. They look like this:

featuresblogs.chicagotribune.com

Actually, a friend of mine who's a cop in Asheville says it's like being back in Iraq: bunch of guys wearing rags, with beards, speaking a language he can't understand.
 
2013-03-01 09:13:38 AM  

dittybopper: Ever try to sue the fire department for not responding fast enough? Guess what? They aren't legally responsible, just like the police aren't legally responsible if you get killed, raped, or injured, even if you warned them specifically that there was a high probability it would happen.


4.bp.blogspot.com

I'm going to set the building on fire
 
2013-03-01 09:16:28 AM  

mod3072: hasty ambush: "This is supposed to be the land of the free. Government is supposed to help people, protect their individual liberties and freedom -- that's not what's happening here,"

He sounds like one of those racist, tea party, anti-government types looking for his Somalian utopia that the progressives are always warning us about. If you look at the photo in the article you will see that he is a white male so the big government progressives are probably right.

Or he's just a guy trying to live his life in the woods and just wants the government to leave him alone and let him live the way he wants to. It doesn't seem to matter which side of the political spectrum you're on, people seem to think that government regulation over one's lifestyle is just fine and dandy as long as it's not MY lifestyle. (See also: gay marriage)

I get the need for regulations and building codes, especially in densely populated areas. The problem is that many times these laws are "one size fits all" and fail to realize that urban and rural areas are different. I live way out in the middle of flyover land, and we don't have building inspections. If you want to build something, just build it. No permits, no inspections, nothing. Somehow we manage to get by without having 100% of our population die in catastrophic building failures. Would that model work in downtown NYC? Absolutely not. Nobody wants a skyscraper falling on their heads. This isn't NYC though. This is the middle of nowhere. These people are trying to force city regulation onto a country boy, and that just never fits.


Bullshiat. The shack you put up in the back yard to store your junk may not be inspected, but all buildings intended for public use are inspected. This guy wants to live in a bark hut on his own property, that's just fine. The minute he starts letting people to stay there and learn to live off the land, then he is supject to local building codes.
 
2013-03-01 09:16:38 AM  

OldManDownDRoad: My advice to this guy is to move even further back into the woods - perhaps Montana.


And maybe marry a round American woman and raise rabbits, and and have her cook them for for you. And get a pickup truck... maybe even a "recreational vehicle." And drive from state to state .

/Of course in the winter you will have to live in Arazona
 
2013-03-01 09:17:22 AM  

vudukungfu: OldManDownDRoad: The hippies moved to both towns around the same time (60s for Chapel Hill, 70s for Asheville)

Hippies?
You mean "Ice Hoes"


Please, explain to me the meaning of this novel vulgarity.
 
2013-03-01 09:17:50 AM  

MythDragon: OldManDownDRoad: My advice to this guy is to move even further back into the woods - perhaps Montana.

And maybe marry a round American woman and raise rabbits, and and have her cook them for for you. And get a pickup truck... maybe even a "recreational vehicle." And drive from state to state .

/Of course in the winter you will have to live in Arazona


Arizona.
Farkdammit
 
2013-03-01 09:18:27 AM  

MythDragon: OldManDownDRoad: My advice to this guy is to move even further back into the woods - perhaps Montana.

And maybe marry a round American woman and raise rabbits, and and have her cook them for for you. And get a pickup truck... maybe even a "recreational vehicle." And drive from state to state .

/Of course in the winter you will have to live in Arazona



Watch out for the cook.
 
2013-03-01 09:19:05 AM  

hasty ambush: He sounds like one of those racist, tea party, anti-government types looking for his Somalian utopia that the progressives are always warning us about.


Nope, he's just an old school hippie. I've read that while attending college as an undergrad in anthropology, he lived in a tent off-campus and walked to class barefoot. Old school indeed.

And as far as the progressives go, we got a nice taste of their utopia down in Zuccotti Park.
 
2013-03-01 09:19:37 AM  

spacemanjones: Not_The_Target_Market: [magazine.seymourprojects.com image 374x568]

No TV no beer make Homer something something


Go Crazy
 
2013-03-01 09:20:02 AM  

OldManDownDRoad


Actually, a friend of mine who's a cop in Asheville says it's like being back in Iraq: bunch of guys wearing rags, with beards, speaking a language he can't understand.


I see you watch 'Justified'. That was a pretty good line when it was used in a recent episode; at least you're copying something decent.
 
2013-03-01 09:20:16 AM  

vudukungfu: You mean "Ice Hoes"


'Iceholes'. You mean 'Iceholes'.

marcokrizic.files.wordpress.com

"I would like to direct this to the distinguished members of the panel: You lousy cork-soakers. You have violated my farging rights. Dis somanumbatching country was founded so that the liberties of common patriotic citizens like me could not be taken away by a bunch of fargin iceholes... like yourselves."
 
2013-03-01 09:21:25 AM  

MythDragon


And maybe marry a round American woman and raise rabbits, and and have her cook them for for you. And get a pickup truck... maybe even a "recreational vehicle." And drive from state to state .


Do they let you do that?
 
2013-03-01 09:22:12 AM  

lostcat: Where can I get some of those organic, all-natural bolt cutters?


I was wondering the same thing. All my local Ace Hardware sells are bolt cutters made from genetically modifed metal.
 
2013-03-01 09:22:19 AM  
Ladies and Gentlemen, meet Mr. Eustace Conway IV, subject of Ms. Elizabeth Gilbert's book "The Last American Man".  It's an amazing book. Gilbert's the same chic that wrote "Eat, Pray, Love".

Conway's been eating road kill since he was a kid. He's not a self-styled "mountain man" ... he is a mountain man. He's also a SUPER a-hole. I can't believe people still go to his nature school. When this case finally makes it way to court, the transcript is going to be HILARIOUS. Mark my words.
 
2013-03-01 09:23:11 AM  

give me doughnuts: dittybopper: Skarekrough: earthworm2.0: drjekel_mrhyde: More like the government don't want to get sued if some asshat dies in hut collapse

Right, so, private property is the responsibility of the government.

Ever had a housefire?

Ever try to sue the fire department for not responding fast enough?  Guess what?  They aren't legally responsible, just like the police aren't legally responsible if you get killed, raped, or injured, even if you warned them specifically that there was a high probability it would happen.


The fire department is there to keep the fire from spreading, not to save your stuff.
The police are there to arrest criminals after they have commited a crime, not to save your ass.


What if they fail to keep the fire from spreading?  Can you not sue them?

For example, say your neighbor's house catches fire, and the local fire department shows up, but due to some incompetence on their part, say, they forgot to bring a vital pump or the wrench to open up the fire hydrant, your house catches fire and burns to the ground.

Can't you sue them then?  No?  Why not?

Truth is, you can't sue the government except under some fairly narrow circumstances.  Why?  Because it's the farkin' government, that's why, so shut the fark up and get back to work, citizen.
 
2013-03-01 09:23:39 AM  

Englebert Slaptyback: OldManDownDRoad

Actually, a friend of mine who's a cop in Asheville says it's like being back in Iraq: bunch of guys wearing rags, with beards, speaking a language he can't understand.


I see you watch 'Justified'. That was a pretty good line when it was used in a recent episode; at least you're copying something decent.


It's a pretty old joke. First time I heard it was from a cop in Carrboro talking about hipsters. I guess it applies in a lot of places. When I heard it about Asheville, I thought he was talking about hipsters as well. Took me a moment to realize he was talking about the backwoods folks.

'Course, he has no room to talk, being from southside Virginia where they pronounce "Norfolk" as "Naw-fuk."

/Vandy has better looking women
 
2013-03-01 09:26:40 AM  

OldManDownDRoad


'Course, he has no room to talk, being from southside Virginia where they pronounce "Norfolk" as "Naw-fuk."


As we all know, the proper pronunciation is "Nor-fk". :-)
 
2013-03-01 09:31:01 AM  

Farce-Side: Should they force him to comply with modern building codes and shut his school down if he can't comply?  I don't think so.

Should they force him to take out a liability insurance policy, and have his students sign a waiver acknowledging that the buildings don't meet NC building codes, and by entering said buildings they are taking their safety into their own hands?  Certainly, but that won't earn the local gov't any money, and since he was on TV, he's gotta have money now right?


This
 
2013-03-01 09:31:06 AM  
Love the Asheville area and look forward to moving there one day.
this guy woulda been fine on his land, as he was told
until he opened a business on his land

well...there's yer problem
 
2013-03-01 09:33:16 AM  

OldManDownDRoad: Must be that guy from Asheville (checks story). Yep.

That's the problem with Asheville, same as Chapel Hill. The hippies moved to both towns around the same time (60s for Chapel Hill, 70s for Asheville) and made the towns "cool" to outsiders. So the outsiders moved there, and brought with them the same laws, regulations, and taxes they left (wherever) to escape. Chapel Hill is now filled with assholes from the northeast, Asheville is now filled with assholes from Florida. All the hippies left Chapel Hill ages ago (mostly to Carrboro, which now suffers from the twin plague of hipsters and smugsters) and Asheville is rapidly becoming the most expensive town in the state to live in, even surpassing Nags Head.

THIS.
So much this it blots out the sun.
Asheville tries much too hard to do the hipster thing and has descended into self parody.

 
2013-03-01 09:34:12 AM  

mod3072: hasty ambush: "This is supposed to be the land of the free. Government is supposed to help people, protect their individual liberties and freedom -- that's not what's happening here,"

He sounds like one of those racist, tea party, anti-government types looking for his Somalian utopia that the progressives are always warning us about. If you look at the photo in the article you will see that he is a white male so the big government progressives are probably right.

Or he's just a guy trying to live his life in the woods and just wants the government to leave him alone and let him live the way he wants to. It doesn't seem to matter which side of the political spectrum you're on, people seem to think that government regulation over one's lifestyle is just fine and dandy as long as it's not MY lifestyle. (See also: gay marriage)

I get the need for regulations and building codes, especially in densely populated areas. The problem is that many times these laws are "one size fits all" and fail to realize that urban and rural areas are different. I live way out in the middle of flyover land, and we don't have building inspections. If you want to build something, just build it. No permits, no inspections, nothing. Somehow we manage to get by without having 100% of our population die in catastrophic building failures. Would that model work in downtown NYC? Absolutely not. Nobody wants a skyscraper falling on their heads. This isn't NYC though. This is the middle of nowhere. These people are trying to force city regulation onto a country boy, and that just never fits.


and This
 
2013-03-01 09:34:47 AM  

Maul555: Farce-Side: Should they force him to comply with modern building codes and shut his school down if he can't comply?  I don't think so.

Should they force him to take out a liability insurance policy, and have his students sign a waiver acknowledging that the buildings don't meet NC building codes, and by entering said buildings they are taking their safety into their own hands?  Certainly, but that won't earn the local gov't any money, and since he was on TV, he's gotta have money now right?

This


X's 42
 
2013-03-01 09:36:32 AM  

fredklein: vudukungfu: You mean "Ice Hoes"

'Iceholes'. You mean 'Iceholes'.

[marcokrizic.files.wordpress.com image 720x480]

"I would like to direct this to the distinguished members of the panel: You lousy cork-soakers. You have violated my farging rights. Dis somanumbatching country was founded so that the liberties of common patriotic citizens like me could not be taken away by a bunch of fargin iceholes... like yourselves."


thank you.
I dated a girl from Ashville when I was in the USAF, and she pronounced it Ice Hoes.
 
2013-03-01 09:36:52 AM  

earthworm2.0: drjekel_mrhyde: More like the government don't want to get sued if some asshat dies in hut collapse

Right, so, private property is the responsibility of the government.


He has a school there. What do you think your county would do if you turned your home into a church?
 
2013-03-01 09:40:24 AM  

give me doughnuts: mod3072: hasty ambush: "This is supposed to be the land of the free. Government is supposed to help people, protect their individual liberties and freedom -- that's not what's happening here,"

He sounds like one of those racist, tea party, anti-government types looking for his Somalian utopia that the progressives are always warning us about. If you look at the photo in the article you will see that he is a white male so the big government progressives are probably right.

Or he's just a guy trying to live his life in the woods and just wants the government to leave him alone and let him live the way he wants to. It doesn't seem to matter which side of the political spectrum you're on, people seem to think that government regulation over one's lifestyle is just fine and dandy as long as it's not MY lifestyle. (See also: gay marriage)

I get the need for regulations and building codes, especially in densely populated areas. The problem is that many times these laws are "one size fits all" and fail to realize that urban and rural areas are different. I live way out in the middle of flyover land, and we don't have building inspections. If you want to build something, just build it. No permits, no inspections, nothing. Somehow we manage to get by without having 100% of our population die in catastrophic building failures. Would that model work in downtown NYC? Absolutely not. Nobody wants a skyscraper falling on their heads. This isn't NYC though. This is the middle of nowhere. These people are trying to force city regulation onto a country boy, and that just never fits.

Bullshiat. The shack you put up in the back yard to store your junk may not be inspected, but all buildings intended for public use are inspected. This guy wants to live in a bark hut on his own property, that's just fine. The minute he starts letting people to stay there and learn to live off the land, then he is supject to local building codes.


Your correct, if someone gets hurt in one of the buildings , someone will laywer up and start, then everyone gets involved. Once the township, boro, county knows about it they have no other choice but to follow the law.

They probably dont want to bother the guy. The best way to operate a municipal area is to stay out of the news.
 
2013-03-01 09:40:29 AM  
evilmonito.com
 
2013-03-01 09:41:19 AM  

Englebert Slaptyback: MythDragon

And maybe marry a round American woman and raise rabbits, and and have her cook them for for you. And get a pickup truck... maybe even a "recreational vehicle." And drive from state to state .


Do they let you do that?


I suppose.
 
2013-03-01 09:42:43 AM  

drjekel_mrhyde: What do you think your county would do if you turned your home into a church?


Give me tax-exempt status and allow me to use psychoactive drugs in rituals (depending on the religion).
 
2013-03-01 09:44:08 AM  
If only he was an ex-imagineer . . .

images3.wikia.nocookie.net

/ without the annoying JAP wife.
 
2013-03-01 09:44:37 AM  

mortimer_ford: Please, explain to me the meaning of this novel vulgarity.


I believe it is a coarse variant of the once-common "snowbird".
 
2013-03-01 09:47:34 AM  

MythDragon: Englebert Slaptyback: MythDragon

And maybe marry a round American woman and raise rabbits, and and have her cook them for for you. And get a pickup truck... maybe even a "recreational vehicle." And drive from state to state .


Do they let you do that?

I suppose.


No papers?
 
2013-03-01 09:51:51 AM  

drjekel_mrhyde: earthworm2.0: drjekel_mrhyde: More like the government don't want to get sued if some asshat dies in hut collapse

Right, so, private property is the responsibility of the government.

He has a school there. What do you think your county would do if you turned your home into a church?


Funny you should say that.  My neighbor has weekly prayer meetings at his house.  No one really cares.
 
2013-03-01 09:55:11 AM  
You do not do business on gang turf w/o paying the gang their share.
What did he not understand?
 
2013-03-01 09:59:53 AM  

earthworm2.0: drjekel_mrhyde: More like the government don't want to get sued if some asshat dies in hut collapse

Right, so, private property is the responsibility of the government.


That's sort of implied by the term, yeah.
 
2013-03-01 10:00:22 AM  

fredklein: vudukungfu: You mean "Ice Hoes"

'Iceholes'. You mean 'Iceholes'.

[marcokrizic.files.wordpress.com image 720x480]

"I would like to direct this to the distinguished members of the panel: You lousy cork-soakers. You have violated my farging rights. Dis somanumbatching country was founded so that the liberties of common patriotic citizens like me could not be taken away by a bunch of fargin iceholes... like yourselves."



He sounds Swedish.
 
2013-03-01 10:02:50 AM  

Seige101: spacemanjones: Not_The_Target_Market: [magazine.seymourprojects.com image 374x568]

No TV no beer make Homer something something

Go Crazy


DONT MIND IF I DO!!!!
 
2013-03-01 10:21:28 AM  
I wash born here, an I wash raished here, and dad gum it, I am gonna die here, an no sidewindin' bushwackin', hornswagglin' cracker croaker is gonna rouin me bishen cutter.
 
2013-03-01 10:27:46 AM  

Farce-Side: Should they force him to comply with modern building codes and shut his school down if he can't comply?


yes
 
2013-03-01 10:33:24 AM  

give me doughnuts: fredklein: vudukungfu: You mean "Ice Hoes"

'Iceholes'. You mean 'Iceholes'.

[marcokrizic.files.wordpress.com image 720x480]

"I would like to direct this to the distinguished members of the panel: You lousy cork-soakers. You have violated my farging rights. Dis somanumbatching country was founded so that the liberties of common patriotic citizens like me could not be taken away by a bunch of fargin iceholes... like yourselves."


He sounds Swedish.


imageshack.us
 
2013-03-01 10:34:59 AM  
Another hypocritical fantasist. He lives off of civilization by selling a "dude ranch" experience to bored, affluent urbanites. He couldn't be more dependent on civilization if he were a stockbroker living on Manhattan.
He just doesn't want to follow the same rules the rest of us have to.
Christ, what an asshole.
 
2013-03-01 10:36:55 AM  

Void_Beavis: I hope this guy wins. Seems like a cool dude.

Having read the book, I would say "interesting".


gentlemint.com
 
2013-03-01 10:49:17 AM  

Englebert Slaptyback: OldManDownDRoad

'Course, he has no room to talk, being from southside Virginia where they pronounce "Norfolk" as "Naw-fuk."


As we all know, the proper pronunciation is "Nor-fk". :-)


Close, it should be pronounced "Nor-fuk"

/Unless you mean all those places named after Norfolk
 
2013-03-01 10:51:36 AM  

dittybopper: For example, say your neighbor's house catches fire, and the local fire department shows up, but due to some incompetence on their part, say, they forgot to bring a vital pump or the wrench to open up the fire hydrant, your house catches fire and burns to the ground.

Can't you sue them then?  No?  Why not?

Truth is, you can't sue the government except under some fairly narrow circumstances.  Why?  Because it's the farkin' government, that's why, so shut the fark up and get back to work, citizen.


Seems like you would want to sue your neighbor for negligence? The fire department (I'm guessing) doesn't guarantee 100% prevention of fire damage once they show up, but googling "suing fire department" returns pages of stories like this one:

http://www.emsworld.com/news/10840121/nebraska-family-suing-fire-dep ar tment-claiming-negligence

"Under the Political Subdivision Tort Claims Act, a person intending to pursue a lawsuit against a political subdivision must file a tort claim, or notice of intent to file a lawsuit. The tort claim puts the subdivision on notice and the subdivision, in this case the City of Scottsbluff, has six months in which to respond. During that time, the city can investigate and offer to settle, if it chooses. After six months, the notifying party can withdraw its tort claim and file a lawsuit in the local district court. "

Doesn't sound like a no...
 
2013-03-01 11:02:29 AM  

OldManDownDRoad: Englebert Slaptyback: OldManDownDRoad

Actually, a friend of mine who's a cop in Asheville says it's like being back in Iraq: bunch of guys wearing rags, with beards, speaking a language he can't understand.


I see you watch 'Justified'. That was a pretty good line when it was used in a recent episode; at least you're copying something decent.

It's a pretty old joke. First time I heard it was from a cop in Carrboro talking about hipsters. I guess it applies in a lot of places. When I heard it about Asheville, I thought he was talking about hipsters as well. Took me a moment to realize he was talking about the backwoods folks.

'Course, he has no room to talk, being from southside Virginia where they pronounce "Norfolk" as "Naw-fuk."

/Vandy has better looking women


While there are a lot of backwoodsy folk in the rural areas of the state, Asheville is not one of those places.  Hippies, hipsters, neo-pagan vegan patchouli, weed & BO with natty dreads and ratty clothes.  Good beer and some great food in the town, though.
 
2013-03-01 11:11:10 AM  

drjekel_mrhyde: More like the government don't want to get sued if some asshat dies in hut collapse


Yeah, that'll happen.
 
2013-03-01 11:12:32 AM  

fredklein: MythDragon: Englebert Slaptyback: MythDragon

And maybe marry a round American woman and raise rabbits, and and have her cook them for for you. And get a pickup truck... maybe even a "recreational vehicle." And drive from state to state .


Do they let you do that?

I suppose.

No papers?


Well, yes. You do need a driver's license...insurance...registration...so 3 papers.
 
2013-03-01 11:14:46 AM  

OldManDownDRoad: Must be that guy from Asheville (checks story). Yep.

That's the problem with Asheville, same as Chapel Hill. The hippies moved to both towns around the same time (60s for Chapel Hill, 70s for Asheville) and made the towns "cool" to outsiders. So the outsiders moved there, and brought with them the same laws, regulations, and taxes they left (wherever) to escape. Chapel Hill is now filled with assholes from the northeast, Asheville is now filled with assholes from Florida. All the hippies left Chapel Hill ages ago (mostly to Carrboro, which now suffers from the twin plague of hipsters and smugsters) and Asheville is rapidly becoming the most expensive town in the state to live in, even surpassing Nags Head.

My advice to this guy is to move even further back into the woods - perhaps Montana.


A buddy of mine is the son of a genuine "mountain man" who lives in the mountains of Montana. A few years ago the rangers trekked up to his dad's cabin, which is in the middle of nowhere, and informed him happily that the area had now been declared "wilderness".

The old guy looked at them wryly and asked, "Hasn't it always been?"

Don'tcha just love how big government thinks it has to "declare" things before they can actually exist as such? Or vice versa.
 
2013-03-01 11:15:07 AM  

natas6.0: Love the Asheville area and look forward to moving there one day.
this guy woulda been fine on his land, as he was told
until he opened a business on his land

well...there's yer problem


The gang state needs its cut.
 
2013-03-01 11:20:34 AM  

MythDragon: fredklein: MythDragon: Englebert Slaptyback: MythDragon

And maybe marry a round American woman and raise rabbits, and and have her cook them for for you. And get a pickup truck... maybe even a "recreational vehicle." And drive from state to state .


Do they let you do that?

I suppose.

No papers?

Well, yes. You do need a driver's license...insurance...registration...so 3 papers.


Depending on the state, just 2.  Not every state requires insurance.
 
2013-03-01 11:27:44 AM  

OldManDownDRoad: Bad_Seed: North Carolina? Wouldn't that technically make him a 'hill-billy', rather than a 'mountain man'?

Please. We prefer "Alto-American."


Does he speak Authentic Frontier Gibberish?
 
2013-03-01 11:35:33 AM  
So whats the name of the mining company that wants his land?
 
2013-03-01 11:37:39 AM  
Wheres all the hillbilly woman folk at?
act.mtv.com
 
2013-03-01 11:40:13 AM  
Isn't it about time for the ATF to send a SWAT team and burn him out to keep us safe?
 
2013-03-01 11:48:28 AM  
1.bp.blogspot.com

OMFG -they're going after EUSTACE CONWAY???? This is like trying to string up Racehl Carson for the sin of loving nature.

Bureaucratic asswipes rule the world and they Must all DIE

http://www.amazon.com/The-Last-American-Elizabeth-Gilbert/dp/0142002 83 6/ref=sr_1_sc_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1362156334&sr=8-1-spell&keywords=eustace+c onawy
 
2013-03-01 11:49:18 AM  
AHJs/inspectors have wide latitude for enforcement.  Stay on their good side.  More from Romero at 11.
 
2013-03-01 11:49:47 AM  
badhatharry: I hope they don't send in the police, ATF & FBI to burn his place down.

Nah, thats so '90s, they'll just do a drone strike
 
2013-03-01 12:01:52 PM  

give me doughnuts: mod3072: hasty ambush: "This is supposed to be the land of the free. Government is supposed to help people, protect their individual liberties and freedom -- that's not what's happening here,"

He sounds like one of those racist, tea party, anti-government types looking for his Somalian utopia that the progressives are always warning us about. If you look at the photo in the article you will see that he is a white male so the big government progressives are probably right.

Or he's just a guy trying to live his life in the woods and just wants the government to leave him alone and let him live the way he wants to. It doesn't seem to matter which side of the political spectrum you're on, people seem to think that government regulation over one's lifestyle is just fine and dandy as long as it's not MY lifestyle. (See also: gay marriage)

I get the need for regulations and building codes, especially in densely populated areas. The problem is that many times these laws are "one size fits all" and fail to realize that urban and rural areas are different. I live way out in the middle of flyover land, and we don't have building inspections. If you want to build something, just build it. No permits, no inspections, nothing. Somehow we manage to get by without having 100% of our population die in catastrophic building failures. Would that model work in downtown NYC? Absolutely not. Nobody wants a skyscraper falling on their heads. This isn't NYC though. This is the middle of nowhere. These people are trying to force city regulation onto a country boy, and that just never fits.

Bullshiat. The shack you put up in the back yard to store your junk may not be inspected, but all buildings intended for public use are inspected. This guy wants to live in a bark hut on his own property, that's just fine. The minute he starts letting people to stay there and learn to live off the land, then he is supject to local building codes.



/Came here to say this
//was said before I did
///slashie Tri-Fecta
 
2013-03-01 12:06:18 PM  

Maul555: Farce-Side: Should they force him to comply with modern building codes and shut his school down if he can't comply?  I don't think so.

Should they force him to take out a liability insurance policy, and have his students sign a waiver acknowledging that the buildings don't meet NC building codes, and by entering said buildings they are taking their safety into their own hands?  Certainly, but that won't earn the local gov't any money, and since he was on TV, he's gotta have money now right?

This


No matter what you say not "This"
 
2013-03-01 12:06:24 PM  
That boy needs therapy.
 
2013-03-01 12:07:30 PM  
I thought only evil people lived in compounds.
 
2013-03-01 12:12:11 PM  

OldManDownDRoad: Must be that guy from Asheville (checks story). Yep.

That's the problem with Asheville, same as Chapel Hill. The hippies moved to both towns around the same time (60s for Chapel Hill, 70s for Asheville) and made the towns "cool" to outsiders. So the outsiders moved there, and brought with them the same laws, regulations, and taxes they left (wherever) to escape. Chapel Hill is now filled with assholes from the northeast, Asheville is now filled with assholes from Florida. All the hippies left Chapel Hill ages ago (mostly to Carrboro, which now suffers from the twin plague of hipsters and smugsters) and Asheville is rapidly becoming the most expensive town in the state to live in, even surpassing Nags Head.

My advice to this guy is to move even further back into the woods - perhaps Montana.


Yep.  I moved from San Francisco to the Asheville area 5 years ago.  Asheville is starting to have the same problems as SF, imports trying to change things, it's bullshiate.
I moved here to get away from that kind of thing, not to encourage it.  If he was up in Madison County like I am (25-30 min drive from Asheville), he might not have the same problems.  People mind their own  business up here, unless you ask them for help, neighbors help each other.
/Madison County was dry when I moved here (no longer)
//got a kegerator to solve that problem
///the local corn in a jar is delicious
 
2013-03-01 12:41:53 PM  

mod3072: Or he's just a guy trying to live his life in the woods and just wants the government to leave him alone and let him live the way he wants to. It doesn't seem to matter which side of the political spectrum you're on, people seem to think that government regulation over one's lifestyle is just fine and dandy as long as it's not MY lifestyle. (See also: gay marriage)

I get the need for regulations and building codes, especially in densely populated areas. The problem is that many times these laws are "one size fits all" and fail to realize that urban and rural areas are different. I live way out in the middle of flyover land, and we don't have building inspections. If you want to build something, just build it. No permits, no inspections, nothing. Somehow we manage to get by without having 100% of our population die in catastrophic building failures. Would that model work in downtown NYC? Absolutely not. Nobody wants a skyscraper falling on their heads. This isn't NYC though. This is the middle of nowhere. These people are trying to force city regulation onto a country boy, and that just never fits.


The people who demand 'government out of our bedrooms!' always seem the most willing to insist on government everywhere else.
 
2013-03-01 12:49:51 PM  

dryknife: I wash born here, an I wash raished here, and dad gum it, I am gonna die here, an no sidewindin' bushwackin', hornswagglin' cracker croaker is gonna rouin me bishen cutter.


That was some authentic, old fashioned western gibberish
 
2013-03-01 12:50:00 PM  
gerrymander:

The people who demand 'government out of our bedrooms!' always seem the most willing to insist on government everywhere else.

I have noticed that.
 
2013-03-01 12:54:07 PM  
Damnit, Frontier gibberish.
 
2013-03-01 12:59:44 PM  

Skarekrough: He can live in a lean-to if he wants.

But if he wants to take money from people to teach them then he's involved in the commerce system which is regulated by the government.

Sorry.


It is sorry. Not everything needs to be regulated. All the apologists for the county in here are why kids can't have a lemon aid stand without cops showing up asking for a permit.

/live and let live, ffs
 
2013-03-01 01:12:33 PM  
MissMechante:
Yep.  I moved from San Francisco to the Asheville area 5 years ago.  Asheville is starting to have the same problems as SF, imports trying to change things, it's bullshiate.

Heh. You're not the first Californian ex-pat to say that to me - which is encouraging, since the incomers from the northeast and Florida promptly move to segregated towns like Cary or North Raleigh (oh, excuse me, Northe Raleighe Villagee Pointe) where they can enjoy the pleasures of endless HOA rules and ever-rising taxes. We've had an influx of Californians in the past couple of years to my rural area and they've become welcome allies in the political fights against the tax-and-regulate crowd.


/Madison County was dry when I moved here (no longer)
//got a kegerator to solve that problem
///the local corn in a jar is delicious


Speaking of Madison, the town (in Rockingham County) has a 'shine festival every year with free samples every November. Check it out.

And, yeah, I know - NC is confusing like that. Beaufort is not in Beaufort County, and Washington is not in Washington County. And the largest county (Hyde) has the least amount of land area. I think it was set up that way to confuse General Sherman - not that it did any good.

/and the Pisgah Forest weed is the best on the east coast
 
2013-03-01 01:18:29 PM  

OldManDownDRoad: Must be that guy from Asheville (checks story). Yep.

That's the problem with Asheville, same as Chapel Hill. The hippies moved to both towns around the same time (60s for Chapel Hill, 70s for Asheville) and made the towns "cool" to outsiders. So the outsiders moved there, and brought with them the same laws, regulations, and taxes they left (wherever) to escape. Chapel Hill is now filled with assholes from the northeast, Asheville is now filled with assholes from Florida. All the hippies left Chapel Hill ages ago (mostly to Carrboro, which now suffers from the twin plague of hipsters and smugsters) and Asheville is rapidly becoming the most expensive town in the state to live in, even surpassing Nags Head.

My advice to this guy is to move even further back into the woods - perhaps Montana.


That sounds just like southern New Hampshire.  The Massholes can't afford to live in Massachusetts anymore so they are moving to southern New Hampshire and doing to New Hampshire exactly what they ran away from in Massachusetts.
 
2013-03-01 01:49:32 PM  

Archae hippy: OldManDownDRoad: Must be that guy from Asheville (checks story). Yep.

That's the problem with Asheville, same as Chapel Hill. The hippies moved to both towns around the same time (60s for Chapel Hill, 70s for Asheville) and made the towns "cool" to outsiders. So the outsiders moved there, and brought with them the same laws, regulations, and taxes they left (wherever) to escape. Chapel Hill is now filled with assholes from the northeast, Asheville is now filled with assholes from Florida. All the hippies left Chapel Hill ages ago (mostly to Carrboro, which now suffers from the twin plague of hipsters and smugsters) and Asheville is rapidly becoming the most expensive town in the state to live in, even surpassing Nags Head.

My advice to this guy is to move even further back into the woods - perhaps Montana.

The NC woods are pretty deep.  Try Cullowhee.


happen to know a guy named jim rowe?
 
2013-03-01 01:52:43 PM  

Callous: OldManDownDRoad: Must be that guy from Asheville (checks story). Yep.

That's the problem with Asheville, same as Chapel Hill. The hippies moved to both towns around the same time (60s for Chapel Hill, 70s for Asheville) and made the towns "cool" to outsiders. So the outsiders moved there, and brought with them the same laws, regulations, and taxes they left (wherever) to escape. Chapel Hill is now filled with assholes from the northeast, Asheville is now filled with assholes from Florida. All the hippies left Chapel Hill ages ago (mostly to Carrboro, which now suffers from the twin plague of hipsters and smugsters) and Asheville is rapidly becoming the most expensive town in the state to live in, even surpassing Nags Head.

My advice to this guy is to move even further back into the woods - perhaps Montana.

That sounds just like southern New Hampshire.  The Massholes can't afford to live in Massachusetts anymore so they are moving to southern New Hampshire and doing to New Hampshire exactly what they ran away from in Massachusetts.


Californians doing the same to West Texas (Alpine)
 
2013-03-01 01:54:06 PM  

OldManDownDRoad: Must be that guy from Asheville (checks story). Yep.

That's the problem with Asheville, same as Chapel Hill. The hippies moved to both towns around the same time (60s for Chapel Hill, 70s for Asheville) and made the towns "cool" to outsiders. So the outsiders moved there, and brought with them the same laws, regulations, and taxes they left (wherever) to escape. Chapel Hill is now filled with assholes from the northeast, Asheville is now filled with assholes from Florida. All the hippies left Chapel Hill ages ago (mostly to Carrboro, which now suffers from the twin plague of hipsters and smugsters) and Asheville is rapidly becoming the most expensive town in the state to live in, even surpassing Nags Head.

My advice to this guy is to move even further back into the woods - perhaps Montana.


Except that Eustace doesn't live in Asheville, or really very close to it.

Don't like Chapel Hill or Asheville?  There are plenty of salt-of-the-Earth places to live in North Carolina.
 
2013-03-01 02:01:27 PM  

MJMaloney187: He's also a SUPER a-hole.


Explain this.  I have met him, stayed on his land in his buildings, eaten with him and worked with him about a half-dozen times.  I would never describe him this way.  Difficult to please, yes.  Not always comfortable around lots of other people, yes.  But not an a-hole.
 
2013-03-01 02:03:46 PM  

jso2897: Another hypocritical fantasist. He lives off of civilization by selling a "dude ranch" experience to bored, affluent urbanites. He couldn't be more dependent on civilization if he were a stockbroker living on Manhattan.
He just doesn't want to follow the same rules the rest of us have to.
Christ, what an asshole.


Stick with what you know.  And this isn't something you know.

/Christ you are an asshole
 
2013-03-01 02:21:06 PM  
Why can't they just leave people alone?
 
2013-03-01 03:00:44 PM  

Skarekrough: He can live in a lean-to if he wants.

But if he wants to take money from people to teach them then he's involved in the commerce system which is regulated by the government.

Sorry.


commerce
commerce
commerce
commerce
commerce
COMMERCE!!!!!


/He wears store-bought pants
//Therefor the GOVT can regulate every detail of his life
///It's all there in the clause
 
2013-03-01 03:03:35 PM  

mdeesnuts: Skarekrough: He can live in a lean-to if he wants.

But if he wants to take money from people to teach them then he's involved in the commerce system which is regulated by the government.

Sorry.

It is sorry. Not everything needs to be regulated. All the apologists for the county in here are why kids can't have a lemon aid stand without cops showing up asking for a permit.

/live and let live, ffs


The people you need to convince are the ones who go running to mommy fed whenever another person pisses them off somehow, because they're incapable of resolving differences otherwise and instead have to go tug the sleeve of an authority figure. In school these people are teachers' pets or snitches, but when they grow up they tend to end up trying to get in a position of as much power as possible. So we end up with rules and regulations for everything, and zero tolerance policies are about all politicians understand.

Also, they gotta look busy. More regulations = something to be proud of on the campaign trail! Apparently.
 
2013-03-01 03:24:54 PM  

Electromax: mdeesnuts: Skarekrough: He can live in a lean-to if he wants.

But if he wants to take money from people to teach them then he's involved in the commerce system which is regulated by the government.

Sorry.

It is sorry. Not everything needs to be regulated. All the apologists for the county in here are why kids can't have a lemon aid stand without cops showing up asking for a permit.

/live and let live, ffs

The people you need to convince are the ones who go running to mommy fed whenever another person pisses them off somehow, because they're incapable of resolving differences otherwise and instead have to go tug the sleeve of an authority figure. In school these people are teachers' pets or snitches, but when they grow up they tend to end up trying to get in a position of as much power as possible. So we end up with rules and regulations for everything, and zero tolerance policies are about all politicians understand.

Also, they gotta look busy. More regulations = something to be proud of on the campaign trail! Apparently.


You mean like people that buy houses abutting sportsman's clubs and then fight tooth and nail to get them shutdown?
 
2013-03-01 03:37:05 PM  
Someone read "My Side of the Mountain" a few too many times as a young child/
 
2013-03-01 04:24:56 PM  

Clemkadidlefark: [1.bp.blogspot.com image 327x500]

OMFG -they're going after EUSTACE CONWAY???? This is like trying to string up Racehl Carson for the sin of loving nature.

Bureaucratic asswipes rule the world and they Must all DIE

http://www.amazon.com/The-Last-American-Elizabeth-Gilbert/dp/0142002 83 6/ref=sr_1_sc_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1362156334&sr=8-1-spell&keywords=eustace+c onawy


Huh. Someone else in this thread must have read more than just the funnies in the last 4 decades.
You read the Foxfire books, too?
 
2013-03-01 04:32:50 PM  
Conway set a world record crossing the continent on horseback in 103 days and any farking piss ant who tries to fark with him is probably going to get buried up to his neck in the woods with a stout twig holding their mouth open. This dude is not some boy scout camping out.
 
2013-03-01 04:50:06 PM  

dittybopper: Skarekrough: earthworm2.0: drjekel_mrhyde: More like the government don't want to get sued if some asshat dies in hut collapse

Right, so, private property is the responsibility of the government.

Ever had a housefire?

Ever try to sue the fire department for not responding fast enough?  Guess what?  They aren't legally responsible, just like the police aren't legally responsible if you get killed, raped, or injured, even if you warned them specifically that there was a high probability it would happen.


I find it strange that I could walk into a person's home after a fire, destroy nearly everything with a large axe and not get sued; yet I have to be careful of getting sued when I ride the town's ambulance.

Though, at least I can sue a homeowner if there's a major defect in their house which injures me, even while I'm watching their life's possessions go up in flames.

/Sovereign Immunity laws are interesting things.
 
FNG [TotalFark]
2013-03-01 05:48:35 PM  
Interesting case. Yes this guy charges money to teach people and be a part of his wilderness lifestyle.

Sounds a lot like camping, doesn't it?

Most campgrounds I go to, I have to pay for a site. This is of course if I'm not backwoods camping, but when I do go to public or private campgrounds, I have to pay money for a spot to stay and to put up my tent.

Do government regulators come and inspect my tent once it is up? Am I herded off my paid-for campsite due to a lightning storm?

No. Have I slept in "sub-standard" tents that I trusted my idiot friends to bring, ones that can't even keep out water? Yes. Twice. Never again.

So what is the difference between this guy's place and a campground? Yes, people are paying, and yes, that makes it "commerce", but there is no difference as I see it.
 
2013-03-01 06:28:11 PM  
OldManDownDRoad:

Speaking of Madison, the town (in Rockingham County) has a 'shine festival every year with free samples every November. Check it out.
/and the Pisgah Forest weed is the best on the east coast


I was excited to go to that festival a couple years ago...until  I realized the day before it was 3+ hours away, not in Madison County.
Not sure I've sampled what Pisgah Forest has to offer, I'll have to check with some friends.
I visited Chapel Hill a while back...would not have moved to NC to live there, that's for sure.  I did really enjoy cocktails at the Crunkleton, there isn't a bar quite like that in AVL
 
2013-03-01 08:02:44 PM  

Amos Quito: Skarekrough: He can live in a lean-to if he wants.

But if he wants to take money from people to teach them then he's involved in the commerce system which is regulated by the government.

Sorry.

commerce
commerce
commerce
commerce
commerce
COMMERCE!!!!!

/He wears store-bought pants
//Therefor the GOVT can regulate every detail of his life
///It's all there in the clause


Worst Supreme Court decision, Ever!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wickard_v._Filburn

/He is fighting a losing battle, good luck to him.
 
2013-03-01 10:35:02 PM  
farking Nanny State....

A Country Boy can Survive...but not against the Woodrow Wilson Dogooder Progressives...100 year war and the Progressives won be they Reagan, Clinton, Bush or Obama...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4s0nzsU1Wg

Freedom lost when Woodrow Wilson was elected.
 
2013-03-01 10:59:52 PM  
Bugs Bunny has a take. "If you can't beat 'em, Join 'em'

upload.wikimedia.org

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=38f_1284015420
 
2013-03-02 01:09:52 AM  

spaten: Amos Quito: Skarekrough: He can live in a lean-to if he wants.

But if he wants to take money from people to teach them then he's involved in the commerce system which is regulated by the government.

Sorry.

commerce
commerce
commerce
commerce
commerce
COMMERCE!!!!!

/He wears store-bought pants
//Therefor the GOVT can regulate every detail of his life
///It's all there in the clause

Worst Supreme Court decision, Ever!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wickard_v._Filburn

/He is fighting a losing battle, good luck to him.


Revers THAT farker and you neuter the Federal Govt of 90% of its present power.

WHERE IS YOUR GOD NOW, WHEATON???


:-)
 
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