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(Guardian)   US prosecutors and senior officials who spearheaded war against drug cartels quit their jobs to defend Colombian cocaine traffickers, say their clients are not bad people   (guardian.co.uk) divider line 58
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2013-03-03 03:04:22 PM
I know the NRA talking point you refer to, and it's BS. In Scotland the normalized total murder rate is around 1.7 (1), it is 4.9 in the USA. There is a similar ratio for other violent crimes.

The primary reason for the lower murder rate is gun control, although we are a slightly more civilized society. Most murders in the USA are performed with handguns, which are extremely effective murder weapons as they are designed specifically to kill human beings.

(1) murders per year per
 
2013-03-03 03:06:29 PM

Virtue: ParaHandy

Every argument you make is based around the premise that less guns=less crime.

Currently, according to FBI statistics, In the US crime is currently at an all time Low since the 60's, while GUN ownership is at an all time high.....this includes EVERY category of firearm, from pistol to "assault weapon"

Seems like EVERY argument you have is invalid


Reasons for the drop in crime are myriad and complex; more guns prevents petty crime but drives up violent crime. The primary reason fro the drop in US crime since the 1980's is the introduction 18 years before or Roe v Wade
 
2013-03-03 03:13:12 PM

Virtue: ParaHandy

Where do you think the Gun Manufactures GET their money from?......from we the people who purchase their products.


Ironically, this includes me. I just ordered a cheap chinese copy of a Remington 12 gauge as a home defence weapon because I found out that my mentally unstable neighbour's husband has a gun. He assures me it has a trigger lock, she has no key, and there is no ammo in the house. However she did point it at me last week.

You need to understand the the USA is changin, and you and George Zimmerman are not Wyatt Earp and Billy the Kid. Neil Heslin is winning and the NRA is losing. I don't need to convince you, I just need 51% of the population of 1/3 of the red states to overturn the 2nd amendment and replace it with one written in terms of sports shooting and home defence. However, my proposal will fly through the supreme court as soon as someone impeaches Scalia.

The NRA will be over by Xmas. Even Wayne LaPierre knows it, he took The Promise. Maybe you should move to Medellin or Mogadishu?
 
2013-03-03 03:15:51 PM

Girion47: ParaHandy: The ban hammer would attract publicity for both fark.com and The Sandy Hook Promise. The latter is my goal, and Drew is a good guy :)

You can think of this as trolling for good. The more guntards that debate me, the more hits my slide deck gets.

You do realize that people putting you on ignore generates nothing correct?

/didn't click your crap
//move to another country if you can't handle the bill of rights here.


You already have the whole country on ignore. You are not my target audience, the 90% of Americans with a conscience and an IQ over 75 are. Google's crawler does not give a rats ass about your ignore list. Moran.
 
2013-03-03 03:18:10 PM

ParaHandy: Girion47: ParaHandy: The ban hammer would attract publicity for both fark.com and The Sandy Hook Promise. The latter is my goal, and Drew is a good guy :)

You can think of this as trolling for good. The more guntards that debate me, the more hits my slide deck gets.

You do realize that people putting you on ignore generates nothing correct?

/didn't click your crap
//move to another country if you can't handle the bill of rights here.

You already have the whole country on ignore. You are not my target audience, the 90% of Americans with a conscience and an IQ over 75 are. Google's crawler does not give a rats ass about your ignore list. Moran.


I realise that this is about as splrting as Tiger Woods playing me over 18 holes, but I cannot resist making fun of someone so stupid that they vote Republican.
 
2013-03-03 05:27:18 PM
^^^ craaaazeeeeee
 
2013-03-04 07:27:04 PM

ParaHandy: ParaHandy: Girion47: ParaHandy: The ban hammer would attract publicity for both fark.com and The Sandy Hook Promise. The latter is my goal, and Drew is a good guy :)

You can think of this as trolling for good. The more guntards that debate me, the more hits my slide deck gets.

You do realize that people putting you on ignore generates nothing correct?

/didn't click your crap
//move to another country if you can't handle the bill of rights here.

You already have the whole country on ignore. You are not my target audience, the 90% of Americans with a conscience and an IQ over 75 are. Google's crawler does not give a rats ass about your ignore list. Moran.

I realise that this is about as splrting as Tiger Woods playing me over 18 holes, but I cannot resist making fun of someone so stupid that they vote Republican.


1.  I don't have anyone on ignore
2.  I don't vote republican
 
2013-03-04 07:48:12 PM

Girion47: ParaHandy: ParaHandy: Girion47: ParaHandy: The ban hammer would attract publicity for both fark.com and The Sandy Hook Promise. The latter is my goal, and Drew is a good guy :)

You can think of this as trolling for good. The more guntards that debate me, the more hits my slide deck gets.

You do realize that people putting you on ignore generates nothing correct?

/didn't click your crap
//move to another country if you can't handle the bill of rights here.

You already have the whole country on ignore. You are not my target audience, the 90% of Americans with a conscience and an IQ over 75 are. Google's crawler does not give a rats ass about your ignore list. Moran.

I realise that this is about as splrting as Tiger Woods playing me over 18 holes, but I cannot resist making fun of someone so stupid that they vote Republican.

1.  I don't have anyone on ignore
2.  I don't vote republican


My apologies, wrong right wing nut. You are the one with the 3 digit IQ.

I believe in rights. Not just the 2nd amendment, but also the 1st, and the ones so important that they are right at the very top and not in amendments added later ... and btw, I am typing entirely from memory, I am going to pass the citizenship test WITHOUT needing to study ...

We the People, in order to form a more perfect union, to promote liberty justice and tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general welfare and .... do declare and establish this Consititution for the United States of America.  We hold these truths to be self evident: that all men are created equal, and entitled to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness

LLPH is the 18th century way of describing the rights of  habeas corpus, established by the Roman Emperor Justinian, whose name gives us the word  justice. These rights are not 200 years odld, they are 2,000 years old.

The right to life of a 6 year old child or any other human being, citizen or not, takes precedence over the Bill of Rights. Register your gun and be a man.

http://dcc.vu/guns

As far as taking policy advice from Scotland goes, we started the whole declaration thing :)
 
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