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2013-03-01 07:08:44 AM

log_jammin: The truth about aspartame


So if something hasn't been linked to any diseases you are ok having it added to your food with no clear notice?
 
2013-03-01 07:09:39 AM

swingerofbirches: I'm pretty sure that article was misleading.

What it sounds like to me, is that this is not about whether the ingredients will be listed on the back label or not, but whether the finished product can be called milk.

For example, you can call a combination of milk, cocoa, and sugar: Chocolate Milk. Could you do the same if you mixed milk, cocoa, and aspartame? I think that is what's in question.

It's the same thing with chocolate. The FDA forced Starbucks to stop calling some of their products chocolate because they didn't meet the definition of what the FDA calls chocolate so now they're "chocolatey." Similarly, some types of ice cream are called "dairy desserts" (I believe it has to do with how much dairy fat is in them).

I am almost positive this has nothing to do with whether the ingredients would be listed on the product's labeling or not.


Stop being reasonable. This is not a thread for reasonable people.
 
2013-03-01 07:14:18 AM
I'm not worried about the ingredients list. Regardless, producers will be required to put all ingredients including artificial sweeteners on the label.

What gets me is that the whole point behind this push is to FEED ARTIFICIAL SWEETENERS TO KIDS. There is NO reason for it. Eat less other crap. It's like the fat guy downing a Big Mac, fries and apple pie, but it's okay because he got a diet coke to go with it.

If I were in charge of the world, we wouldn't be putting artificial colors in our kids' food, much less artificial sweeteners.
 
2013-03-01 07:23:05 AM

liam76: So if something hasn't been linked to any diseases you are ok having it added to your food with no clear notice?


again...it would still be listed as an ingredient. This is about not having to rename a product just because it uses a different type of sweetener.

for example, a company that makes chocolate milk and uses HFCS to sweeten it could still call their product "Chocolate milk" and not something like "low fact chocolate drink product" just because they switched to aspartame to sweeten it instead.
 
2013-03-01 07:36:36 AM

TV's Vinnie: I already avoid Breyer's because they are a "frozen dessert" (they can't legally call their stuff "ice cream" because, it isn't).


Breyer's Ice Cream
www.ideawerksstudios.com
Ingedients
1.bp.blogspot.com

What's in it? Only the stuff you need to make ice cream.

So on behalf of non-hipsters and regular sane people who enjoy good, reasonably priced ice cream, fark you. Breyer's rocks
 
2013-03-01 07:38:25 AM

MythDragon: TV's Vinnie: I already avoid Breyer's because they are a "frozen dessert" (they can't legally call their stuff "ice cream" because, it isn't).

Breyer's Ice Cream
[www.ideawerksstudios.com image 300x300]
Ingedients
[1.bp.blogspot.com image 654x495]

What's in it? Only the stuff you need to make ice cream.

So on behalf of non-hipsters and regular sane people who enjoy good, reasonably priced ice cream, fark you. Breyer's rocks


so does marmite, and lipton.  other AWESOME unilever products!!
 
2013-03-01 07:42:02 AM

OgreMagi: Last week I asked my roommate to pick up some rocky road ice cream when he went to the grocery store. I specifically said, "get the high end ice cream." He brought back Breyer's. It tastes like crap.



You have been added to my "Fark you, Breyer's rocks" list.

/It's a short list. Currently only has 1 other person on it.
 
2013-03-01 07:47:37 AM

Those standards (hereinafter referred to as the "additional dairy standards") are as follows: Acidified milk (§ 131.111), cultured milk (§ 131.112), sweetened condensed milk (§ 131.120), nonfat dry milk (§ 131.125), nonfat dry milk fortified with vitamins A and D (§ 131.127), evaporated milk (§ 131.130), dry cream (§ 131.149), heavy cream (§ 131.150), light cream (§ 131.155), light whipping cream (§ 131.157), sour cream (§ 131.160), acidified sour cream (§ 131.162), eggnog (§ 131.170), half-and-half (§ 131.180), yogurt (§ 131.200), lowfat yogurt (§ 131.203), and nonfat yogurt (§ 131.206).



These are the items it talks about... It seems like it's things that are already flavored... like chocolate milk or cherry yogurt. The only thing I'm confused about is if "acidified milk" and "cultured milk" is the normal 1% stuff we put in our cereal.
 
2013-03-01 07:48:07 AM

Great Porn Dragon: I Cannot Has The Nutrasweet

Death

That shiat turns me into Shakin Smith. No farking thank you.
 
2013-03-01 08:01:08 AM

Darke: These are the items it talks about... It seems like it's things that are already flavored... like chocolate milk or cherry yogurt. The only thing I'm confused about is if "acidified milk" and "cultured milk" is the normal 1% stuff we put in our cereal.


No, they aren't. Skim, 1%, and 2% are all skimmed of their fat, not acidified or cultured. Cultured would be a yogurt/kefir/cottage cheese style process. Acidified milk is not very popular in the US as it tastes like sour milk; used for baking aspects primarily.
 
2013-03-01 08:07:13 AM

TanSau: ok, so no more milk then...

got it


almond milk is delish.

/mildly lactose-intolerant.
 
2013-03-01 08:09:21 AM

HindiDiscoMonster: Onyx Serpent: NicoFinn: OMFG, America has lost its sh*t.


Think of the kids! Put sweeteners in their fraking milk to get them to drink it!

Especially since there's already a sweetener to put in milk to get kids to drink it -- it's called chocolate.

uh... no

chocolate is not sweet till you add sugar to it.


Actually, I think chocolate is sweet. It's the Cocoa that isn't sweet until you add sugar and create chocolate.

/could be wrong though
 
2013-03-01 08:14:26 AM
Who the f*ck drinks milk in this day and age?
 
2013-03-01 08:19:23 AM
Although I don't think there is evidence that artificial sweeteners are super evil super toxic going to cause cancer next year substances I still avoid them. I'd rather just limit my junk food to food with real sugar and limit it. I do think there could be something about artificial sweeteners that could screw up the body's 'I'm full because I just ate xx calories' mechanism. Your body tastes sweetness, doesn't get calories, this keeps happening to it, shiat gets messed up.

People think that sugar free gives them a ticket to eat the food- uh no it still has calories from other things grr.

My mom is a BIG Splenda user. She never uses real sugar and always uses Splenda. I don't think it taste weird, I just think they didn't add enough dextrose so it is sweeter than sugar and makes thing too sweet.
 
2013-03-01 08:19:33 AM
Is aspartame cheaper than stevia for these producers?

/DNRTFA
 
2013-03-01 08:22:03 AM

sigdiamond2000: Who the f*ck drinks milk in this day and age?


i have to drink it every night before bed, or i can't sleep
 
2013-03-01 08:33:32 AM

sigdiamond2000: Who the f*ck drinks milk in this day and age?


I personally find it to be a great "decloying" agent if you will after eating very sweet things, it's traditionally something I drink when I eat breakfast, and also occasionally when I eat pasta with a tomato based sauce.

And in response to all of the Breyer's references, is it just me, or does the vanilla taste like mini thins?
 
2013-03-01 08:34:38 AM

sigdiamond2000: Who the f*ck drinks milk in this day and age?


I know, that's like talking to your mom. Who does that shiat.
 
2013-03-01 08:39:41 AM

parahaps: Breyer's used to be 'premium'-ish ice cream. Very few ingredients in each. It's only recently that they made the changes that make them unable to actually call it real ice cream anymore.


I've noticed this with some, but not all, of the Breyer's flavors. I prefer my ice cream without the texture modifiers that most manufacturers add to make it easier to scoop.

Turkey Hill goes on sale more often at my usual store, so I'll often pick up their Philadelphia Style.
 
2013-03-01 08:40:57 AM
Meanwhile Uncle Sam continues to wage a KGB-style war against raw milk farmers...
 
2013-03-01 08:43:21 AM

log_jammin: liam76: So if something hasn't been linked to any diseases you are ok having it added to your food with no clear notice?

again...it would still be listed as an ingredient. This is about not having to rename a product just because it uses a different type of sweetener.

for example, a company that makes chocolate milk and uses HFCS to sweeten it could still call their product "Chocolate milk" and not something like "low fact chocolate drink product" just because they switched to aspartame to sweeten it instead.


HFCS has calories. Adding a sweetener with no known nutritional value is enough to Chang it from 'chocolate milk' to some type of diet milk drink.
 
2013-03-01 08:45:07 AM

spap-oop: If I were in charge of the world, we wouldn't be putting artificial colors in our kids' food, much less artificial sweeteners.


I get severe migraines from azo dyes, specifically Yellow 5, Yellow 6, and Red 40. I have to be very careful about  reading labels and asking questions at restaurants.
 
2013-03-01 08:47:59 AM

log_jammin: The truth about aspartame


I'm not worried about aspartame being "bad."  I'm worried about crap being added to my food without showing up on the damn label.
 
2013-03-01 08:48:40 AM

Generation_D: Oh Corrupt Republican Dairy Industry, is there nothing you can't do


Tell the truth, apparently.
 
2013-03-01 08:53:28 AM

TV's Vinnie: I already avoid Breyer's because they are a "frozen dessert" (they can't legally call their stuff "ice cream" because, it isn't).


I also have to double-check when I'm trying to buy cheese that I don't get "pasteurized cheese product" instead.  I don't know what the hell that stuff is, but it doesn't taste like cheese.

And while we're on the topic, the fact that Kraft gets to call Kraft Dinner "Kraft Macaroni and Cheese" in the USA is pretty damn sad.
 
2013-03-01 08:57:48 AM

namatad: Generation_D: 3) Walmart, Safeway, Costco and their ilk will wind up with the crap

Walmart and Costco sell an AMAZING amount of the milk in the US.
If even a small fraction of their purchasers started complaining and protesting, enough to generate nation media attention, you would find that Walmart can trivial change a supplier, just by its own regulations.

THE farkED up part about this, is that it isnt even making more milk, but just marketing. FFS
Label then, give us the choice ... sweetend vs regular ... let the market sort it out.


They tried that with growth hormone in milk, everyone knew Organic didn't have it, and within 5 yrs there was nothing that wasn't organic, except for the crap at walmart.
 
2013-03-01 09:10:24 AM

Frosty_Icehole: And in response to all of the Breyer's references, is it just me, or does the vanilla taste like mini thins?


Never tried them. Maybe it's the mini thins that taste like vanilla?
 
2013-03-01 09:11:04 AM

liam76: HFCS has calories. Adding a sweetener with no known nutritional value is enough to Chang it from 'chocolate milk' to some type of diet milk drink.


yes it does have calories, that's one reason people think our kids are getting fat. too much HFCS. Hence the request for the change.

The rest of your comment is nonsensical. Does a coffee cream and sugar become something else if you use an artificial sweetener? of course not. just because it's a sweetener with no calories that doesn't change the drink it's added to.
 
2013-03-01 09:18:01 AM

Lenny_da_Hog: Why stop at flavoring to boost sales?

Just add cocaine.


That would give my morning coffee the extra something that it needs.
 
2013-03-01 09:18:28 AM
I wish they had sweeteners stuck up their ass.  Why does everything have to have mutha farking sweetener?  How about giving me non-sweetened shiat?
 
2013-03-01 09:37:49 AM
I'm not a big yogurt guy, but I just landed some epicness from this farm in Plano, TX...

www.luckylayla.com

/hol-ee shiat it's good
//and their milk is awesome too
 
2013-03-01 09:44:31 AM

OgreMagi: TV's Vinnie: I already avoid Breyer's because they are a "frozen dessert" (they can't legally call their stuff "ice cream" because, it isn't).

Last week I asked my roommate to pick up some rocky road ice cream when he went to the grocery store.  I specifically said, "get the high end ice cream."  He brought back Breyer's.  It tastes like crap.


I started making my own ice cream. Coming up with new flavors is fun. Surprisingly, peanut butter and banana work well (when combined with other ingredients, of course).
 
2013-03-01 09:59:42 AM

Bob Down: Another reason not to drink that shiat. It's for calves.


I assume you consume no dairy products at all then, right?

And anything else you think god/mother nature/personified natural selection forces* intended for humans?

*tempered by personal beliefs on paar with 'area man passionate about what he perceives constitution to be', of course.


/science or gtfo
 
2013-03-01 10:20:09 AM

MythDragon: TV's Vinnie: I already avoid Breyer's because they are a "frozen dessert" (they can't legally call their stuff "ice cream" because, it isn't).

Breyer's Ice Cream
[www.ideawerksstudios.com image 300x300]
Ingedients
[1.bp.blogspot.com image 654x495]

What's in it? Only the stuff you need to make ice cream.

So on behalf of non-hipsters and regular sane people who enjoy good, reasonably priced ice cream, fark you. Breyer's rocks


springsbargains.com

http://thefoodlabelmovement.org/2011/10/shame-list-breyers-frozen-de ss ert/
 
2013-03-01 10:22:19 AM

log_jammin: The truth about aspartame


I decided to kick my two diet soda a day habit a several weeks ago, knowing absolutely nothing about the supposed evils of aspartame.

Withing a day the resulting withdrawal symptoms of dizziness and nausea almost sent me to the ER half convinced I was on the verge of a stroke. This lasted over a week.

Now, I'm losing weight, my constant bouts of apathy and depression have mysteriously disappeared and I no longer get the tired  spells I used to an hour after my diet coke fix.

Also, I went on a rare bender at a BBQ cook-off and traded my Jack & Diets for Jack and Cokes. Guess what? Didn't get drunk quite as fast or spectacularly and had very little hangover compared to the J&D induced head-smashers of old.

What I didn't realize was that because I was limiting myself to 2-3 diet sodas early in the morning, I was actually going though withdrawal every day during the afternoon. My quality of life was in the crapper for about a year

I only recently found out about the supposed evils of aspartame after I was at the tail end of diet soda bannination hell, but a lot of the accusations seem to fit my experience. Can't vouch for the kidney failure though.

PS. I know it wasn't caffeine addiction because on the days I drank a coffee in the morning instead of a diet soda, I always felt like shiat, craved the diet soda and eventually had one. Besides, Coke Zero was my usual poison, which is lower on the caffeine scale than most
 
2013-03-01 10:25:46 AM
That milk will be disgustingly watery. Think of skim milk only with the exact consistency of water. I highly doubt that aspartame will be able to replicate the mouth feel or exact sweetness of lactose.
 
2013-03-01 10:29:00 AM

TV's Vinnie: MythDragon: TV's Vinnie: I already avoid Breyer's because they are a "frozen dessert" (they can't legally call their stuff "ice cream" because, it isn't).

Breyer's Ice Cream
[www.ideawerksstudios.com image 300x300]
Ingedients
[1.bp.blogspot.com image 654x495]

What's in it? Only the stuff you need to make ice cream.

So on behalf of non-hipsters and regular sane people who enjoy good, reasonably priced ice cream, fark you. Breyer's rocks

[springsbargains.com image 350x261]

http://thefoodlabelmovement.org/2011/10/shame-list-breyers-frozen-de ss ert/


Having made a lot of ice cream in my life and being familiar with its keeping qualities, especially when frozen (which is why, if memory serves, they call it ICE cream), how bad does your frozen dessert product have to be to require preservatives. which some of those ingredients are?
 
2013-03-01 10:32:18 AM
The only thing these people will understand is a string of very public executions.
 
2013-03-01 10:33:33 AM

robohobo: BronyMedic: ladyfortuna: It's MILK. It does not require sweeteners. Anyone who thinks otherwise has already been twisted by the factory food industry and should be put out of their misery. Hell, what they do with skim is bad enough, but I got used to the taste (and lower price) so I can't go back to the whole milk...

You can pry my chocolate milk from my fat, dead from a coronary fingers, Miss.

GIVE ME

[1.bp.blogspot.com image 250x188]

OR GIVE ME DEATH!

Am I the only one who prefers it from the can, instead of the squeeze whatever?


How YOU Doin?  You'd be the first one I've been with.

/Not sure your gender, but I guess a but is a but.
 
2013-03-01 10:43:36 AM

tanman1975: log_jammin: The truth about aspartame

I decided to kick my two diet soda a day habit a several weeks ago, knowing absolutely nothing about the supposed evils of aspartame.

Withing a day the resulting withdrawal symptoms of dizziness and nausea almost sent me to the ER half convinced I was on the verge of a stroke. This lasted over a week.

Now, I'm losing weight, my constant bouts of apathy and depression have mysteriously disappeared and I no longer get the tired  spells I used to an hour after my diet coke fix.

Also, I went on a rare bender at a BBQ cook-off and traded my Jack & Diets for Jack and Cokes. Guess what? Didn't get drunk quite as fast or spectacularly and had very little hangover compared to the J&D induced head-smashers of old.

What I didn't realize was that because I was limiting myself to 2-3 diet sodas early in the morning, I was actually going though withdrawal every day during the afternoon. My quality of life was in the crapper for about a year

I only recently found out about the supposed evils of aspartame after I was at the tail end of diet soda bannination hell, but a lot of the accusations seem to fit my experience. Can't vouch for the kidney failure though.

PS. I know it wasn't caffeine addiction because on the days I drank a coffee in the morning instead of a diet soda, I always felt like shiat, craved the diet soda and eventually had one. Besides, Coke Zero was my usual poison, which is lower on the caffeine scale than most


Thanks for the supposition and the anecdote.

But I'll stick with science.
 
2013-03-01 10:50:01 AM

Great Porn Dragon: robohobo: BronyMedic: robohobo: Buy my milk raw from a local dairy. Yay, Kansas.

Pasteurization is just a massive conspiracy that results from the evil triad of Pasteur and Big Pharma that has existed for 100s of years. There is no risk in drinking it, and the FDA just keeps it illegal for interstate trade to ensure that big agribusiness can keep ripping the sheeple off!

Anything that says otherwise is a lie, especially the claim that raw milk ever killed anyone! (Mostly infants and children, but they're really not important.)

But, I digress. YAY CAMPYLOBACTER!

I've been cooking and baking with raw milk for years. It'd be more dangerous if I did intravenous drugs or had sex with common women.  So, what, how dare I buck the FDA? How dare I besmirch Pasteur? What's the problem?

In your case, since you seem to mostly cook with it, I'd actually say there's probably not the risk that is involved in (say) people giving raw milk to kids or immunocompromised people.  (Cooking should kill off the bacteria most folks are worried about re raw milk; pasteurisation heats milk to 160 degrees F for fifteen seconds, whilst cake mixes...well...heat milk to rather higher degrees of 375 F for quite a bit longer than fifteen seconds in the oven. :D)

As an aside, though--in general, a lot of the complaints from folks who "drink raw milk for the taste" re store milk--and most of the real differences in raw versus pasteurised milk sold in stores that would account for differences in flavor profiles--tend to be from three major sources:

a) Raw milk is unhomogenised whilst the vast majority of milk sold in stores is homogenised.  (There ARE a few places that sell non-homogenised milk, mostly for the "foodie" and locavore market.  I find the non-homo milk to be much nicer in mouthfeel, and without the bacterial risks of drinking raw milk without boiling it first (I am immunocompromised--asthma, specifically--so I do have to worry re the health risks).)

b) A lot of raw milk is from br ...



You're partly right about the cheese. Most soft cheeses are only heated up to about 110-115F, with cultures (mesophilic) and rennet added in the 85-95F range. Hard cheeses like parmesan, gruyère, etc. are heated to around 170F, but the cultures (thermophilic) are added at a lower temperature.
So, if you're going to make a mesophilic culture cheese, for example cheddar, you have the option of pasturising your milk beforehand--I think heating it at 145F for 30 minutes or 165F for 5 minutes (there seems to be a range of times and temps)--or, optionally and what I think many artesan cheese makers do, is age the cheese for at least 6 months. I think the FDA allows raw milk cheese to be sold this way, at least in Vermont.
I do agree with you about the yogurt. Got a Yogotherm several months ago, make 2 litres of yogurt every Sunday night, and there's a fresh batch for my lunches come Monday morning.
/hobby cheesemaker
 
2013-03-01 10:52:03 AM

log_jammin: The truth about aspartame


Is that it tastes farking disgusting and therefore doesn't belong anywhere near food, much less farking MILK.
 
2013-03-01 10:53:28 AM

sycraft: This pisses me off. Not the idea of using artificial sweetener in milk, but not wanting it on the label. People need to know what is in something and then can decide if they want it or not. Plus I can't see the harm of it being on the label. Artificially sweetened drinks are VERY popular in the US, plenty of people have no issue with them.

I can see no good reason for wanting to not have it on the label.

However on the other side, this author is quite clearly an anti-sweetener alarmist, so I'm not sure that her claims are valid. I haven't the time to read the original petition, but it is quite possible he's overstating the issue (like they are ok with it in the ingredient labeling, they just don't want to have to do anything special other than that).


I feel the same way about GMO.  If you are that confident in your product that you are trying to sell it to us anyway, farking TELL US.
 
2013-03-01 10:54:56 AM

tanman1975: Withing a day the resulting withdrawal symptoms of dizziness and nausea almost sent me to the ER half convinced I was on the verge of a stroke. This lasted over a week.


That's normal caffeine withdrawal.

tanman1975: Now, I'm losing weight, my constant bouts of apathy and depression have mysteriously disappeared and I no longer get the tired  spells I used to an hour after my diet coke fix.


Regardless of magical effects or caloric content, consuming tasty things that don't fill you up (ie. any beverages) tend to make your stomach send more hunger signals.  Unless you were already calorie counting religiously, you would see reduced appetite and consume less.

tanman1975: Also, I went on a rare bender at a BBQ cook-off and traded my Jack & Diets for Jack and Cokes. Guess what? Didn't get drunk quite as fast or spectacularly and had very little hangover compared to the J&D induced head-smashers of old.


While sugar in a drink doesn't fill your stomach for hunger signals, it does provide calories, which may have an effect.  I also don't want to call you a liar, but in the study I read where diet mixers resulted in people who were more drunk, the folks in the diet group didn't report feeling any more drunk on average.  Finally, since you admit your bender was rare, it is very likely there are a boatload of factors going into your anecdote here.

tanman1975: What I didn't realize was that because I was limiting myself to 2-3 diet sodas early in the morning, I was actually going though withdrawal every day during the afternoon. My quality of life was in the crapper for about a year


Caffeine, how does it work?

tanman1975: PS. I know it wasn't caffeine addiction because on the days I drank a coffee in the morning instead of a diet soda, I always felt like shiat, craved the diet soda and eventually had one.


Bullshiat.


log_jammin: But I'll stick with science.


Me too.  /high five.
 
2013-03-01 10:57:55 AM

Communist_Manifesto: That milk will be disgustingly watery. Think of skim milk only with the exact consistency of water. I highly doubt that aspartame will be able to replicate the mouth feel or exact sweetness of lactose.


Don't fret, they'll find another chemical to balance that effect out. Plus this is, according to the dairy industry themselves, all about adjusting children to the new milk and slipping it past them without them thinking its a 'diet' product. An entire generation will never know, and when my son is my age, he'll be mocking people who drink and defend shiatty milk the same way I mock people on fark for thinking wonderbread is a miracle of science.

When your parents never introduce you to real food, you continue liking garbage as an adult, afaict.
 
2013-03-01 11:04:33 AM

7th Son of a 7th Son: Horizon organic milk FTW.


lolno
that stuff is shiat

/raw milk ftw
 
2013-03-01 11:04:49 AM

OgreMagi: TV's Vinnie: I already avoid Breyer's because they are a "frozen dessert" (they can't legally call their stuff "ice cream" because, it isn't).

Last week I asked my roommate to pick up some rocky road ice cream when he went to the grocery store.  I specifically said, "get the high end ice cream."  He brought back Breyer's.  It tastes like crap.


Blue Bell is the best out there IMO
 
2013-03-01 11:05:09 AM

Poowaddins: NO to ∞ and beyond.

I stopped buying Breyers ice cream when it stopped being 5 simple ingredients and now has guar gum, gum arabic, cargeenan and other unknowns in it. It's like spooning into a frozen concoction made of Fluff, only worse tasting.


There's nothing wrong with guar gum, lecithin, gum arabic and carageenan. I use them in cooking. They're very useful when you have to work around dietary restrictions but still want textures the people you are serving recognize. For instance, I just finished a batch of home-made ketchup. If I hadn't used xanthan gum it would have either been completely liquid or boiled down so far the flavors would be lost.
 
2013-03-01 11:10:32 AM

TV's Vinnie: MythDragon: TV's Vinnie: I already avoid Breyer's because they are a "frozen dessert" (they can't legally call their stuff "ice cream" because, it isn't).

Breyer's Ice Cream
[www.ideawerksstudios.com image 300x300]
Ingedients
[1.bp.blogspot.com image 654x495]

What's in it? Only the stuff you need to make ice cream.

So on behalf of non-hipsters and regular sane people who enjoy good, reasonably priced ice cream, fark you. Breyer's rocks

[springsbargains.com image 350x261]

http://thefoodlabelmovement.org/2011/10/shame-list-breyers-frozen-de ss ert/


Well aparently this is recent. Though a lot of their flavors are still actual ice cream, such as mint choco, and natural vanilla. Since it looks like the flavors I like are still 'normal' it won't affect me. Won't be doing their dairy desert crap though. I guess I'll go to Blue Bunny for B&J for those flavors.
 
2013-03-01 11:23:03 AM
We've already been oversold milk, now we want to and sweeteners to it as well as antibiotics and whoremoans hormones?

/not a fan of milk
//not happy about giant twelve-year-old boobies either
 
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