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2013-03-01 04:12:17 AM
What the fark is the deal with companies wanting to not disclose what's in foods?
 
2013-03-01 04:14:15 AM

OgreMagi: TV's Vinnie: I already avoid Breyer's because they are a "frozen dessert" (they can't legally call their stuff "ice cream" because, it isn't).

Last week I asked my roommate to pick up some rocky road ice cream when he went to the grocery store.  I specifically said, "get the high end ice cream."  He brought back Breyer's.  It tastes like crap.


Here you go:

www.bluebunny.com
 
2013-03-01 04:14:37 AM

LaughingRadish: What the fark is the deal with companies wanting to not disclose what's in foods?


Ask the US government. Again, avoid processed foods. Buy direct. Farmer's markets are great. Pringles, not so much.
 
2013-03-01 04:16:27 AM

LaughingRadish: What the fark is the deal with companies wanting to not disclose what's in foods?


Because the further the food additive gets from being actual food, the less they want people to know so they can sell more product.

Jamie Oliver's  Food Evolution did a good job of breaking this down.  He'd go to high schools and elementary schools and show them what was actually in popular deserts and fast food items.
 
2013-03-01 04:16:44 AM
it's fake.  meaning they'd have to REMOVE the lactose first, which ain't gonna happen.  it's impossible, from a chemical point of view
 
2013-03-01 04:19:12 AM
It's interesting that we see so many attempts to avoid labeling. Industry doesn't want tell you if there's Aspertame in your milk. They don't want people to label their competing products as Bovine Growth Hormone free. They don't want to have to label their own products as containing GMO ingredients. The list goes on. It's as if they have something to hide.
 
2013-03-01 04:19:50 AM
I'm pretty sure that article was misleading.

What it sounds like to me, is that this is not about whether the ingredients will be listed on the back label or not, but whether the finished product can be called milk.

For example, you can call a combination of milk, cocoa, and sugar: Chocolate Milk. Could you do the same if you mixed milk, cocoa, and aspartame? I think that is what's in question.

It's the same thing with chocolate. The FDA forced Starbucks to stop calling some of their products chocolate because they didn't meet the definition of what the FDA calls chocolate so now they're "chocolatey." Similarly, some types of ice cream are called "dairy desserts" (I believe it has to do with how much dairy fat is in them).

I am almost positive this has nothing to do with whether the ingredients would be listed on the product's labeling or not.
 
2013-03-01 04:20:11 AM
They already sell a "fat free" half and half at my local Kroger, they remove all the milk fat and replaced it with high fructose corn syrup., LOL. I laughed out loud in the store as I read its label.
 
2013-03-01 04:23:44 AM

swingerofbirches: What it sounds like to me, is that this is not about whether the ingredients will be listed on the back label or not, but whether the finished product can be called milk.


Milk should probably be milk.
 
2013-03-01 04:27:39 AM

lolpix: Milk should probably be milk.


milk is milk. this is about....

Acidified milk (§ 131.111), cultured milk (§ 131.112), sweetened condensed milk (§ 131.120), nonfat dry milk (§ 131.125), nonfat dry milk fortified with vitamins A and D (§ 131.127), evaporated milk (§ 131.130), dry cream (§ 131.149), heavy cream (§ 131.150), light cream (§ 131.155), light whipping cream (§ 131.157), sour cream (§ 131.160), acidified sour cream (§ 131.162), eggnog (§ 131.170), half-and-half (§ 131.180), yogurt (§ 131.200), lowfat yogurt (§ 131.203), and nonfat yogurt (§ 131.206).

https://www.federalregister.gov/articles/2013/02/20/2013-03835/flavo re d-milk-petition-to-amend-the-standard-of-identity-for-milk-and-17-addi tional-dairy-products
 
2013-03-01 04:28:31 AM
The NMPF has released a statement.


National Milk Producers Federation Statement Regarding Non-Nutritive Sweeteners Petition


As required by the Food and Drug Administration's (FDA) food labeling regulations, all food products that include non-nutritive sweeteners as an ingredient must be clearly labeled and include the name of the sweetener on the package's ingredient statement.

The FDA petition would not change any existing requirements that aspartame, sucralose or any other non-nutritive sweetener be included in the list of ingredients if it is present.

This petition was initially filed with FDA several years ago to help address the growing issues surrounding both caloric limits and added sugars for flavored milk sold in schools. Some schools have removed flavored milk altogether, resulting in less consumption of milk by children and less consumption of milk's important nutrients. Allowing the use of FDA-approved sweeteners in flavored milk will allow those consumers who want a lower-calorie flavored milk to have that choice.


And from their own petition:

However, IDFA and NMPF argue that nutrient content claims such as "reduced calorie" are not attractive to children, and maintain that consumers can more easily identify the overall nutritional value of milk products that are flavored with non-nutritive sweeteners if the labels do not include such claims. Further, the petitioners assert that consumers do not recognize milk-including flavored milk-as necessarily containing sugar. Accordingly, the petitioners state that milk flavored with non-nutritive sweeteners should be labeled as milk without further claims so that consumers can "more easily identify its overall nutritional value."
 
2013-03-01 04:30:40 AM
more like asparLAME
 
2013-03-01 04:31:41 AM
NO to ∞ and beyond.

I stopped buying Breyers ice cream when it stopped being 5 simple ingredients and now has guar gum, gum arabic, cargeenan and other unknowns in it. It's like spooning into a frozen concoction made of Fluff, only worse tasting. I even went so far as to write the company to complain, they sent me a canned response and some useless coupons I never used. Like, really? If you want to do me a favor give me some coupons to Häagen Dazs or something better quality. Now we just spend a few afternoons throughout the spring and summer and make homemade ice cream. Tastes better anyway.

Whatever happened to real good milk? All of the shiat they sell here in Southern Indiana now spoils in less than a week and tastes horrid. Lots of people around here with cows but none that I know of that actually milk them. I've been craving to make a batch of homemade butter like my grandmother used to do. Homemade buttermilk biscuits with homemade butter and honey. Yum.
 
2013-03-01 04:35:21 AM

Dr.Zom: And from their own petition:


the key part is nutrient content claims such as "reduced calorie"

Claims, not ingredients. all this really is, is they are asking permission to use artificial sweeteners in products instead of HFCS, and still be able to call it "chocolate milk" instead of "chocolate milk product" or the like.
 
2013-03-01 04:36:14 AM

robohobo: Buy my milk raw from a local dairy. Yay, Kansas.


Pasteurization is just a massive conspiracy that results from the evil triad of Pasteur and Big Pharma that has existed for 100s of years. There is no risk in drinking it, and the FDA just keeps it illegal for interstate trade to ensure that big agribusiness can keep ripping the sheeple off!

Anything that says otherwise is a lie, especially the claim that raw milk ever killed anyone! (Mostly infants and children, but they're really not important.)

But, I digress. YAY CAMPYLOBACTER!
 
2013-03-01 04:37:13 AM

neongoats: They already sell a "fat free" half and half at my local Kroger, they remove all the milk fat and replaced it with high fructose corn syrup., LOL. I laughed out loud in the store as I read its label.


Do you know how hard it is to find regular half & half? In my little town of 7,000 lard arses they have 3 rows of Land O'Lakes Fat Free Half & Half in the dairy case, it sits there till it goes bad and they chuck it out. And you're right, it's all sugar and thickeners. Yet, the one piddly little row they devote to Prairie Farms half & half is empty 90% of the time and I have to hassle a stock boy to go back to the back and grab me a couple.

http://www.landolakes.com/product/15102/fat-free-half-half

Hmph.
 
2013-03-01 04:40:43 AM

Insurgent: more like asparLAME


settle down BOY. they tested that chemical of phenylalanine and aspartic acid (both compounds that bodybuilders use) and tested them REPEATEDLY so that it's REAL TAME.
 
2013-03-01 04:41:43 AM

BronyMedic: robohobo: Buy my milk raw from a local dairy. Yay, Kansas.

Pasteurization is just a massive conspiracy that results from the evil triad of Pasteur and Big Pharma that has existed for 100s of years. There is no risk in drinking it, and the FDA just keeps it illegal for interstate trade to ensure that big agribusiness can keep ripping the sheeple off!

Anything that says otherwise is a lie, especially the claim that raw milk ever killed anyone! (Mostly infants and children, but they're really not important.)

But, I digress. YAY CAMPYLOBACTER!


Oh bother.
 
2013-03-01 04:44:45 AM

Summoner101: Oh bother.


Pre-emptive strike against the Raw Milkies. What you do to your body, as an adult, is your business. Just don't go making it out to be anything it's not. If you want to suck it fresh from the teat, do so, with all the fun microbiota that it comes with (there's a reason modern milkers automatically detect things like udder abcess rupture and stop themselves) Just don't complain if and when you get sick.
 
2013-03-01 04:45:08 AM

BronyMedic: robohobo: Buy my milk raw from a local dairy. Yay, Kansas.

Pasteurization is just a massive conspiracy that results from the evil triad of Pasteur and Big Pharma that has existed for 100s of years. There is no risk in drinking it, and the FDA just keeps it illegal for interstate trade to ensure that big agribusiness can keep ripping the sheeple off!

Anything that says otherwise is a lie, especially the claim that raw milk ever killed anyone! (Mostly infants and children, but they're really not important.)

But, I digress. YAY CAMPYLOBACTER!


I've been cooking and baking with raw milk for years. It'd be more dangerous if I did intravenous drugs or had sex with common women.  So, what, how dare I buck the FDA? How dare I besmirch Pasteur? What's the problem?
 
2013-03-01 04:47:10 AM

Summoner101: BronyMedic: robohobo: Buy my milk raw from a local dairy. Yay, Kansas.

Pasteurization is just a massive conspiracy that results from the evil triad of Pasteur and Big Pharma that has existed for 100s of years. There is no risk in drinking it, and the FDA just keeps it illegal for interstate trade to ensure that big agribusiness can keep ripping the sheeple off!

Anything that says otherwise is a lie, especially the claim that raw milk ever killed anyone! (Mostly infants and children, but they're really not important.)

But, I digress. YAY CAMPYLOBACTER!

Oh bother.


You're going 50/50 with Alton. 50 for Fark's love of science, -50 for Fark's hatred of conservatives.
 
2013-03-01 04:47:16 AM

robohobo: I've been cooking and baking with raw milk for years. It'd be more dangerous if I did intravenous drugs or had sex with common women.


And that's your decision. For a Raw Milk person, you're unusually calm and level-headed about it. Most of them I've encountered tend to tout unproven health benefits, vast misinformation about vitamins, and downplay the dangers of raw milk to children and infants. Believe it or not, it's as conspiracy theory laden and woo-filled as something like Homeopathy.

robohobo: So, what, how dare I buck the FDA? How dare I besmirch Pasteur? What's the problem?


Pre-emptive strike. I believe the military calls you collateral damage.
 
2013-03-01 04:48:23 AM
On another note, Raw Milk wouldn't even be bad if the US would allow x-ray pasteurization for food products reaching consumers on a mass scale.

But no. TEH RADIATIONZ.
 
2013-03-01 04:51:15 AM

BronyMedic: robohobo: I've been cooking and baking with raw milk for years. It'd be more dangerous if I did intravenous drugs or had sex with common women.

And that's your decision. For a Raw Milk person, you're unusually calm and level-headed about it. Most of them I've encountered tend to tout unproven health benefits, vast misinformation about vitamins, and downplay the dangers of raw milk to children and infants. Believe it or not, it's as conspiracy theory laden and woo-filled as something like Homeopathy.

robohobo: So, what, how dare I buck the FDA? How dare I besmirch Pasteur? What's the problem?

Pre-emptive strike. I believe the military calls you collateral damage.


I'm not a child or an infant. Nor do I care about the effects on children or infants. I'm not running commercials, or running a campaign. I find raw milk tastes better both in liquid and cooked/baked varieties. Since most folk don't have it as an option, I don't see what the issue is.
 
2013-03-01 04:52:03 AM

Bathia_Mapes: I would be really upset if aspartame was added to dairy products and wasn't on the label. Not only does that shiat triggers migraines for me, but I have a right, as does everyone else, to what is in what I eat and drink.


THIS.  If they start throwing aspartame in dairy products, that's going to pretty much result in dairy being alongside chewing gum and most diet drinks in the "Can never has again" category for me.  (Yes, I'm one of those unfortunates who is an actual, neurologist-diagnosed, aspartame-triggered migraneur.  Added bonus: A very large portion of my circle of friends and pretty much the entirety of my maternal family over the age of 40 is diabetic, and I've had to constantly note to family that I Cannot Has The Nutrasweet Unless I Like The Idea Of My Brain Trying To Kill Me.)

Which I'm sure is going to lead to some very interesting conversations in future with certain physicians I see who do worry I'm not getting enough dairy as is. :P

That, or I get to resign myself to going to the fully-organic non-homogenised "buy it in glass bottles from the groceries catering to locavores and foodies at about twice the price of normal".  (At least then I'll have a MEDICAL excuse for it, hehe. :D  Actually like the non-homogenised stuff better, it's creamier and easier to make stuff like palak paneer and yogurt and butter out of it.)

/albeit one of my friends may actually have it worse--diabetic, aspartame-triggered migraneur, AND has a hubby who is an actual gastroenterologist-diagnosed celiac...and yes, I'm also aware of people who are type I diabetic and celiac simultaneously (and actually clinically diagnosed with the latter--not a huge shock there as both are autoimmune disorders with strong epigenetic components)
 
2013-03-01 04:54:06 AM

BronyMedic: On another note, Raw Milk wouldn't even be bad if the US would allow x-ray pasteurization for food products reaching consumers on a mass scale.


I'm still holding out for z-ray. It's two better than x.
 
2013-03-01 04:55:04 AM

robohobo: I'm not a child or an infant. Nor do I care about the effects on children or infants. I'm not running commercials, or running a campaign. I find raw milk tastes better both in liquid and cooked/baked varieties. Since most folk don't have it as an option, I don't see what the issue is.


The problem is that it's touted as something it isn't by many people. That's why I made the statement that I did.

It wouldn't even be a problem to distribute the stuff commercially if we could go to X-ray pasteurization versus heat pasteurization in the United States, which wouldn't change the taste in the least. But that is fought against in every step of the way by people who seem to think irradiation of food is going to create Frankenstein's veggie monster.
 
2013-03-01 04:58:04 AM
Item 1:  Whenever I see the word aspartame, I mentally pronounce it like a conjugated Spanish verb.  Aspartame, mi amor!

Item 2:  Why isn't the real news that companies are allowed to add high fructose corn syrup to milk and still call it milk?
 
2013-03-01 05:01:20 AM

BronyMedic: robohobo: I'm not a child or an infant. Nor do I care about the effects on children or infants. I'm not running commercials, or running a campaign. I find raw milk tastes better both in liquid and cooked/baked varieties. Since most folk don't have it as an option, I don't see what the issue is.

The problem is that it's touted as something it isn't by many people. That's why I made the statement that I did.

It wouldn't even be a problem to distribute the stuff commercially if we could go to X-ray pasteurization versus heat pasteurization in the United States, which wouldn't change the taste in the least. But that is fought against in every step of the way by people who seem to think irradiation of food is going to create Frankenstein's veggie monster.


Fair enough. Personally, I buy, roughly, 95% of what I consumen straight from farms with little to no processing, and I find I'm healthier for it. Being in farm land, it's easy. I recognize for most it isn't a possibility. That being said, while I do drink glasses of milk, I don't like straight milk, though raw still tastes better. Also a good many cheeses use raw milk.  Again, it's not really an issue as most can't afford it raw.
 
2013-03-01 05:19:03 AM

robohobo: Summoner101: BronyMedic: robohobo: Buy my milk raw from a local dairy. Yay, Kansas.

Pasteurization is just a massive conspiracy that results from the evil triad of Pasteur and Big Pharma that has existed for 100s of years. There is no risk in drinking it, and the FDA just keeps it illegal for interstate trade to ensure that big agribusiness can keep ripping the sheeple off!

Anything that says otherwise is a lie, especially the claim that raw milk ever killed anyone! (Mostly infants and children, but they're really not important.)

But, I digress. YAY CAMPYLOBACTER!

Oh bother.

You're going 50/50 with Alton. 50 for Fark's love of science, -50 for Fark's hatred of conservatives.


Alton Brown doesn't bang the proverbial conservative gong all that often.  From my experience, most Farkers can separate the good things a person does from the things they disagree with that the person mostly keeps to themselves anyway.  It's called being an adult.
 
2013-03-01 05:22:37 AM

BronyMedic: robohobo: I'm not a child or an infant. Nor do I care about the effects on children or infants. I'm not running commercials, or running a campaign. I find raw milk tastes better both in liquid and cooked/baked varieties. Since most folk don't have it as an option, I don't see what the issue is.

The problem is that it's touted as something it isn't by many people. That's why I made the statement that I did.

It wouldn't even be a problem to distribute the stuff commercially if we could go to X-ray pasteurization versus heat pasteurization in the United States, which wouldn't change the taste in the least. But that is fought against in every step of the way by people who seem to think irradiation of food is going to create Frankenstein's veggie monster.


Hell, I know people who won't microwave their kids food because "radiation".

Like, white folks from the burbs. Your beige dial tone types.
 
2013-03-01 05:23:07 AM
It's MILK. It does not require sweeteners. Anyone who thinks otherwise has already been twisted by the factory food industry and should be put out of their misery. Hell, what they do with skim is bad enough, but I got used to the taste (and lower price) so I can't go back to the whole milk...
 
2013-03-01 05:26:15 AM

HotWingAgenda: Item 1:  Whenever I see the word aspartame, I mentally pronounce it like a conjugated Spanish verb.  Aspartame, mi amor!

Item 2:  Why isn't the real news that companies are allowed to add high fructose corn syrup to milk and still call it milk?


"All natural" no less....
 
2013-03-01 05:28:15 AM

ladyfortuna: It's MILK. It does not require sweeteners. Anyone who thinks otherwise has already been twisted by the factory food industry and should be put out of their misery. Hell, what they do with skim is bad enough, but I got used to the taste (and lower price) so I can't go back to the whole milk...


You can pry my chocolate milk from my fat, dead from a coronary fingers, Miss.

GIVE ME

1.bp.blogspot.com

OR GIVE ME DEATH!
 
2013-03-01 05:29:29 AM

robohobo: BronyMedic: robohobo: Buy my milk raw from a local dairy. Yay, Kansas.

Pasteurization is just a massive conspiracy that results from the evil triad of Pasteur and Big Pharma that has existed for 100s of years. There is no risk in drinking it, and the FDA just keeps it illegal for interstate trade to ensure that big agribusiness can keep ripping the sheeple off!

Anything that says otherwise is a lie, especially the claim that raw milk ever killed anyone! (Mostly infants and children, but they're really not important.)

But, I digress. YAY CAMPYLOBACTER!

I've been cooking and baking with raw milk for years. It'd be more dangerous if I did intravenous drugs or had sex with common women.  So, what, how dare I buck the FDA? How dare I besmirch Pasteur? What's the problem?


In your case, since you seem to mostly cook with it, I'd actually say there's probably not the risk that is involved in (say) people giving raw milk to kids or immunocompromised people.  (Cooking should kill off the bacteria most folks are worried about re raw milk; pasteurisation heats milk to 160 degrees F for fifteen seconds, whilst cake mixes...well...heat milk to rather higher degrees of 375 F for quite a bit longer than fifteen seconds in the oven. :D)

As an aside, though--in general, a lot of the complaints from folks who "drink raw milk for the taste" re store milk--and most of the real differences in raw versus pasteurised milk sold in stores that would account for differences in flavor profiles--tend to be from three major sources:

a) Raw milk is unhomogenised whilst the vast majority of milk sold in stores is homogenised.  (There ARE a few places that sell non-homogenised milk, mostly for the "foodie" and locavore market.  I find the non-homo milk to be much nicer in mouthfeel, and without the bacterial risks of drinking raw milk without boiling it first (I am immunocompromised--asthma, specifically--so I do have to worry re the health risks).)

b) A lot of raw milk is from breeds with a higher butterfat content in the milk--Jerseys, Brown Swiss, and the like--whereas most store brands are from Holstein cattle.  (Yes, this matters.  There is actually a chain in the Southeast that specialises in gourmet food (Fresh Market) that sells (homogenised) Jersey milk, and it does have a creamier and different flavour profile than that of Holsteins--it's like comparing a free-range heritage breed of chicken to, say, the usual battery-bred Plymouth White or Cornish Cross chickens.)

c) There is some difference with distance--not as much as one would honestly think, though.  (Also, re non-homogenised milk--that tends to be available mostly within a 50 mile radius or so of a particular dairy, if THAT far away, so again non-homo pasteurised tends to be almost exactly equivalent to raw milk save for the former being exposed to heat at 160 degrees F for 15 seconds.

(To be honest, I don't quite buy all the hoohah re "raw milk" cheese because realistically it's not truly raw milk by the time the cheesemaking process starts in earnest. :D  All cultured dairy products, from cheese to yogurt to sour cream, involve milk that is first heated up (usually to the point of boiling with "raw milk" cheeses, which effectively does the same thing as pasteurisation AND partially cooks the milk to boot) and then live cultures are added at around the same temperature as the human core body temperature (around 97-99 degrees F).  This is done because, quite frankly, it would be utterly impossible to turn out a reliable cheese or cultured dairy product otherwise--if they tried to make it with raw milk without boiling or pasteurising it first, they'd lose a lot of their product due to contamination from the bacteria (pathogenic and otherwise) that live in raw milk.)

(And yes, I highly recommend making your own yogurt at least once--not quite as complicated as with cheese, but you get a good feel for how the process of fermentation works to produce niftiness.  You can also make it creamier than you can get in the stores, and considerably cheaper too. :D  Just be sure to boil the milk (or at least heat to frothing), let it cool, then add some yogurt with active cultures as a starter once it gets to about 110 degrees F per a cooking thermometer...and then cover and let sit in a nice, warm, dark place for a day or two.  Strain it in cheesecloth if you want "Greek style". :D)

/boo camphylobacter
//yay lactobacillus! :D
///also yay bifidobacteria (Bifidobacterium, of note, is the proper name of the "Acidophilus" stuff you sometimes see in probiotic dairy products)
 
2013-03-01 05:29:48 AM

BronyMedic: ladyfortuna: It's MILK. It does not require sweeteners. Anyone who thinks otherwise has already been twisted by the factory food industry and should be put out of their misery. Hell, what they do with skim is bad enough, but I got used to the taste (and lower price) so I can't go back to the whole milk...

You can pry my chocolate milk from my fat, dead from a coronary fingers, Miss.

GIVE ME

[1.bp.blogspot.com image 250x188]

OR GIVE ME DEATH!


It was better when it was chocolate, not "Chocolate flavor"

In 100 years there will be no food. Just "food".
 
2013-03-01 05:33:34 AM

BronyMedic: ladyfortuna: It's MILK. It does not require sweeteners. Anyone who thinks otherwise has already been twisted by the factory food industry and should be put out of their misery. Hell, what they do with skim is bad enough, but I got used to the taste (and lower price) so I can't go back to the whole milk...

You can pry my chocolate milk from my fat, dead from a coronary fingers, Miss.

GIVE ME

[1.bp.blogspot.com image 250x188]

OR GIVE ME DEATH!


Am I the only one who prefers it from the can, instead of the squeeze whatever?
 
2013-03-01 05:56:47 AM

MurphyMurphy:

In 100 years there will be no food. Just "food".


Futurama is proving sadly prescient.
 
2013-03-01 06:03:24 AM
If you need sweeteners added to milk before you will drink it please kill yourself.
 
2013-03-01 06:10:29 AM
www.whydoesthisnotexist.com
 
2013-03-01 06:11:13 AM

Reverend Monkeypants: robohobo: Buy my milk raw from a local dairy. Yay, Kansas.

Me too sometimes. Yay, New York.

:/


My wife and I started buying from a local dairy about 5 years ago.  It's the first milk I've actually wanted to drink a glass of in as long as I can remember.  SO delicious (though eeeevry once in a while if there's a lot of rain, it has a little bit of "muddy hay" flavor).  And after the refund on the glass bottles it comes in, it's cheaper than most other milk too.
 
2013-03-01 06:19:58 AM

Oldiron_79: If you need sweeteners added to milk before you will drink it please kill yourself.


the dairy industry wants to add sweeteners to milk without informing the consumer. they should be held responsible.

personally i think all milk is gross. do people still drink straight milk from a glass?

i am not opposed to dairy products in general. i like cheese and butter and yogurt, but i've never enjoyed the taste of milk.
 
2013-03-01 06:42:51 AM
I won't be able to tell is the headache, upset stomach and dry mouth is from my hangover or my breakfast cereal.

/Take artificial sweeteners and HFCS out back and shoot them both please
 
2013-03-01 06:47:06 AM
I can't do aspartame, it makes me ill.
 
2013-03-01 06:49:14 AM
ok, so no more milk then...

got it
 
2013-03-01 06:54:51 AM

ladyfortuna: It's MILK. It does not require sweeteners. Anyone who thinks otherwise has already been twisted by the factory food industry and should be put out of their misery. Hell, what they do with skim is bad enough, but I got used to the taste (and lower price) so I can't go back to the whole milk...


skim milk is watery semen
 
2013-03-01 06:58:06 AM
www.foodrepublic.com
What? Where? I don't see anything!
 
2013-03-01 07:00:12 AM
Great Porn Dragon:  I find the non-homo milk to be much nicer in mouthfeel, and without the bacterial risks of drinking raw milk without boiling it first ....

/snort.
 
2013-03-01 07:04:23 AM

HotWingAgenda: Item 1:  Whenever I see the word aspartame, I mentally pronounce it like a conjugated Spanish verb.  Aspartame, mi amor!

Item 2:  Why isn't the real news that companies are allowed to add high fructose corn syrup to milk and still call it milk?


farm4.staticflickr.com
 
2013-03-01 07:07:18 AM

LadySusan: I already made my public comment about aspartame. It makes me really, really, really, really dizzy for about 24 hours. Weird shiat.


gives me severe intestnal cramps and makes me a nasty SOb for a few hours.  fortunately you can always find it on the label because of the required warning :
Phenylketonurics - contains phenylalaninethat they have to put on things containing itr
 
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