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(NBC News)   Thank goodness Texas has allowed teachers to bring guns in the classroom, or else students would miss out on the teachers accidentally shooting themselves during class   (usnews.nbcnews.com) divider line 305
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2013-02-28 02:20:26 PM  
"Mechanical malfunction"?
Sounds like someone's trying to blame the gun.
 
2013-02-28 02:39:28 PM  
Won't someone think of the gunless gang members!
 
2013-02-28 02:40:48 PM  
Surprised it took this long.
 
2013-02-28 02:40:49 PM  
Overzealous staffer.  Non-incident.
 
2013-02-28 02:40:56 PM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: "Mechanical malfunction"?
Sounds like someone's trying to blame the gun.


It's like raaaaaiiiinnnn on your wedding day...
 
2013-02-28 02:41:03 PM  
someone needs to post the Picard facepalm
 
2013-02-28 02:41:36 PM  
Is there a "we saw this coming a mile away" category?
 
2013-02-28 02:41:51 PM  
I laughed.
 
2013-02-28 02:42:28 PM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: "Mechanical malfunction"?
Sounds like someone's trying to blame the gun.


Exactly
It the weapon was being handled in a safe manner, I doubt it would have happened.
Safe = unloaded,not pointed anywhere it would cause harm at all, given any physics involved.
 
2013-02-28 02:42:32 PM  
I hate it when "irony" walks right up to you - all smiling while it kicks you in the nuts.
 
2013-02-28 02:43:10 PM  
It's more likely that the malfunction was in the interface between the teacher and the weapon.
 
2013-02-28 02:43:41 PM  
I can see this happening in one of the more pansy states, but Texans should know better. Ship this guy off to somewhere like Iowa or Ohio where he can think about what he did.
 
2013-02-28 02:43:50 PM  
It's only a matter of time before a disgruntled teacher offs a challenging student, or vice versa, with one of these safety devices.
 
2013-02-28 02:44:19 PM  
One day, soon, a child is going to get seriously wounded or more likely killed by a school employee carrying a gun and that will put an end to this foolishness.  It's a shame we have to wait for that.
 
2013-02-28 02:44:24 PM  
You know in those samurai movies how there's always one guy who can't even draw his sword without cutting himself?
 
2013-02-28 02:44:53 PM  
Did he preface it by saying "I'm the only one professional enough to carry a Glock 40??"
 
2013-02-28 02:45:30 PM  
Well, that was educational.
 
2013-02-28 02:45:49 PM  
I live in east Texas now. Van's school mascot is the" Vandals". It is a stereotypical redneck town.

/I can only callously say "Good"
 
2013-02-28 02:46:38 PM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: "Mechanical malfunction"?
Sounds like someone's trying to blame the gun.


See? Guns  do kill people.

/or injure, in this case
 
2013-02-28 02:46:50 PM  

Paul Baumer: One day, soon, a child is going to get seriously wounded or more likely killed by a school employee carrying a gun and that will put an end to this foolishness.  It's a shame we have to wait for that.


You know that there would be people who would respond to this by saying that all the children should be armed too, in order to protect themselves in just such a situation.  They will do so without a hint of irony in their voices.

"There was an old lady who swallowed a spider..."
 
2013-02-28 02:46:52 PM  
But, if only the students had been armed too, one of them could have shot the teacher before he was able to shoot himself!
 
2013-02-28 02:47:51 PM  
Surprised this is texas.  This had florida all over it.
 
2013-02-28 02:48:01 PM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: "Mechanical malfunction"?
Sounds like someone's trying to blame the gun.


So... guns DO kill people?
 
2013-02-28 02:48:08 PM  
Well if the students had just had guns, then... yeah, I got nothin'.
 
2013-02-28 02:48:28 PM  
As long as there's no collateral damage, I approve of people hurting themselves through incompetence.

/I guess that's hardly a radical position on Fark.
 
2013-02-28 02:49:26 PM  
a concealed handgun class

Ah, so they were being TRAINED on firearms use, in a class full of adults.
 
2013-02-28 02:49:27 PM  
www.mhmcintyre.us

Worm? What worm?
 
2013-02-28 02:50:16 PM  

Ego edo infantia cattus: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: "Mechanical malfunction"?
Sounds like someone's trying to blame the gun.

So... guns DO kill people?


Only when they malfunction.

// see? PREFECTLY safe in the right hands
// and in schools, where nobody ever makes bad decisions (including teachers and custodians)
 
2013-02-28 02:50:37 PM  

you have pee hands: As long as there's no collateral damage, I approve of people Texans hurting themselves through incompetence.


FTFY
 
2013-02-28 02:50:48 PM  
Subby is a bit misleading. Sure makes it sound like it happened in a school but then it says "it was unclear whether it was held on school grounds."

Accidents happen at shooting ranges too, should we shut them all down and ban them all so the only people left with guns are untrained and prone to more accidents? While we're at it, lets close down phy ed classes in schools because get bloody noses during dodgeball on occasion.
 
2013-02-28 02:51:29 PM  

Adalius: Subby is a bit misleading. Sure makes it sound like it happened in a school but then it says "it was unclear whether it was held on school grounds."

Accidents happen at shooting ranges too, should we shut them all down and ban them all so the only people left with guns are untrained and prone to more accidents? While we're at it, lets close down phy ed classes in schools because get bloody noses during dodgeball on occasion.


... this actually happened...
 
2013-02-28 02:51:38 PM  

Gifted Many Few: I can see this happening in one of the more pansy states, but Texans should know better. Ship this guy off to somewhere like Iowa or Ohio where he can think about what he did.


Everything is Herp-a-derpier in Texas.


/Alaskan.
//Don't piss us off, or we'll split in half and make you the third largest state.
 
2013-02-28 02:51:58 PM  

Carn: You know that there would be people who would respond to this by saying that all the children should be armed too, in order to protect themselves in just such a situation. They will do so without a hint of irony in their voices.


Some of them seriously recommended that husky 12-year-olds throw themselves at gunmen to stop school massacres. I'm shocked these people are able to get out of the house without walking repeatedly into the doorframe.
 
2013-02-28 02:52:00 PM  

Yogimus: a concealed handgun class

Ah, so they were being TRAINED on firearms use, in a class full of adults.


So what you're telling me that someone paid good money to be taught how to not completely fark this up, and it STILL went wrong?
 
2013-02-28 02:52:03 PM  

Paul Baumer: One day, soon, a child is going to get seriously wounded or more likely killed by a school employee carrying a gun and that will put an end to this foolishness.  It's a shame we have to wait for that.


More likely is someone using bad judgment or simply spacing out (if those aren't the same thing) and leaving a gun where it is accessible to students.  Cops do that sometimes.  Parents seem to do it often.  If teachers can bring guns to school, it's just a matter of time.
 
2013-02-28 02:52:18 PM  
I would not allow my child to attend a public school with armed teachers.

I've worked in a public school before. Half of the teachers there shouldn't be trusted with cleaning solvents, much less firearms. And that wasn't even in Texas.
 
2013-02-28 02:53:24 PM  

Ego edo infantia cattus: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: "Mechanical malfunction"?
Sounds like someone's trying to blame the gun.

So... guns DO kill people?


They do seem to, at the least, maim people.
 
2013-02-28 02:53:34 PM  

SpdrJay: But, if only the students had been armed too, one of them could have shot the teacher before he was able to shoot himself!


That made me laugh so that a tiny string of booger flew from my nose, and I can't see where it went.  I'm hoping it didn't land on my sandwich.  In short, you owe me a sandwich.

/eating it anyway.
 
2013-02-28 02:55:32 PM  

evilmrsock: Yogimus: a concealed handgun class

Ah, so they were being TRAINED on firearms use, in a class full of adults.

So what you're telling me that someone paid good money to be taught how to not completely fark this up, and it STILL went wrong?


Some jackass brought a loaded gun to school, the teacher said "We can't have loaded guns in here", jackass says "Its not loaded, see?" and pulls trigger.   - This is why MOST safety courses don't actually allow guns to be brought to class.
 
2013-02-28 02:56:33 PM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: "Mechanical malfunction"?
Sounds like someone's trying to blame the gun.


Well, given that it's an instructor that assumably does this thousands of time in a given year, I'd give slightly more credence to it being an actual malfunction instead of negligence.  And it's a ricochet that got 'em, so at least the gun was pointed in a safe direction.

That said, why was the instructor fiddling with a loaded gun in the classroom?  I know my CCP teacher was armed during the lecture segment, but it stayed in its holster where it's supposed to be until we were actually out on the range doing the practical qualifier.  I'm somewhat skeptical of a teacher that's doing something that could set off a mechanical failure while they're in a building with other people, I don't even clean my pistol unless I know where my roommate is and have never removed it from its carrier outside of my house and the range.

I'm kinda... dubious about the competence involved here, though technically I'd call the story somewhat plausible, basically.
 
2013-02-28 02:56:43 PM  
So how long until someone demands all the students start carrying?
 
2013-02-28 02:57:52 PM  
Oh, and "a mechanical malfunction with his weapon caused his gun to misfire" sounds a hell of a lot like "the gun went off while I was cleaning it" which is universally interpreted as  "I was doing something stupid".
 
2013-02-28 02:57:54 PM  

Adalius: Subby is a bit misleading. Sure makes it sound like it happened in a school but then it says "it was unclear whether it was held on school grounds."

Accidents happen at shooting ranges too, should we shut them all down and ban them all so the only people left with guns are untrained and prone to more accidents? While we're at it, lets close down phy ed classes in schools because get bloody noses during dodgeball on occasion.


I'm confused.  Do we make kids aged 4-18 hang out at shooting ranges for 30 hours a week?
 
2013-02-28 02:58:00 PM  

Adalius: Subby is a bit misleading. Sure makes it sound like it happened in a school but then it says "it was unclear whether it was held on school grounds."

Accidents happen at shooting ranges too, should we shut them all down and ban them all so the only people left with guns are untrained and prone to more accidents? While we're at it, lets close down phy ed classes in schools because get bloody noses during dodgeball on occasion.


are you seriously equating getting hit in the face with a ball to being shot?
 
2013-02-28 02:58:03 PM  

Adalius: Subby is a bit misleading. Sure makes it sound like it happened in a school but then it says "it was unclear whether it was held on school grounds."

Accidents happen at shooting ranges too, should we shut them all down and ban them all so the only people left with guns are untrained and prone to more accidents? While we're at it, lets close down phy ed classes in schools because get bloody noses during dodgeball on occasion.


No, of course not.  Don't be silly.  We should fill shooting ranges with children.
 
2013-02-28 02:58:57 PM  
Hee-haw!
 
2013-02-28 02:59:09 PM  
Setting aside the issue of school staff carrying weapons for a second, what was a loaded weapon being used for in a class I'm assuming is about firearm safety.

The firearms safety classes I've taken used guns with the firing mechanism removed, maybe that's just a thing in socialist Canuckistan.
 
2013-02-28 02:59:25 PM  
And THIS is exactly why the "ARM THE TEACHING/MAINTENANCE STAFF!!!" is so freaking retarded!

These people are not cops. They are not soldiers. They are not trained security guards. They are average schlubs. Add to that even with trained personnel the more firearms that are around the more likely it is there will be an accidental discharge. Classrooms and school hallways have a high concentration of people in them at any given point in time. You have an accidental discharge in that type of environment it is very likely someone is going to get hurt.

The moral of the story is... your "solutions" are more problematic than anything, NRA/gun weirdos. You're gonna end up killing your own damned kids.

Obvious post is obvious... but apparently not enough because the whargarblers will STILL find a way to try and justify cramming the schools with guns.

Pathetic.
 
2013-02-28 03:00:24 PM  
LAWSUIT! LAWSUIT!
 
2013-02-28 03:00:59 PM  
This is why you don't let Barney fife keep his gun loaded
 
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