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(Politico)   Threatening email to Bob Woodward from the White House turns out to be the nicest apology letter ever   (politico.com) divider line 433
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2013-02-28 10:42:47 AM
There can only be a few reasons for Woodward making such a big deal about this-

1. He's going senile, and is imagining slights and insults where none occur.

2. He is pissed at the administration about something, and is using this non-issue to try to slap the WH.

3. He has become a lazy journalist, and knows that you can make more money pandering to the  wingnuts with imaginary Obama administration indiscretions than with in depth investigative journalism.
 
2013-02-28 10:43:20 AM

Dusk-You-n-Me: Bob Woodward trolled us (and we got played)


Ha.

Was it Redstate that recently ran an editorial about hucksters just using the conservative movement to sell books and boost their career/media profile?
 
2013-02-28 10:43:31 AM
This is Obama's Benghazi.
 
2013-02-28 10:44:13 AM
My, how the mighty have fallen.

What was the threat level? Yellow, orange, or red?
 
2013-02-28 10:44:22 AM

Dinki: 3. He has become a lazy journalist, and knows that you can make more money pandering to the wingnuts with imaginary Obama administration indiscretions than with in depth investigative journalism.


I'm gonna go with that one except he doesn't fully grasp that in 2013 people can fact check the dumb shiat you say quickly.
 
2013-02-28 10:44:35 AM

MilesTeg: I see the white house spin machine and their Fark shills are in full cover mode.

/expected


"Spin" being releasing the full text of the email.
 
2013-02-28 10:44:45 AM
That poor little snowflake.
 
2013-02-28 10:45:46 AM
When I was young, I tried to climb a tree.

My mom told me that if I kept going, I might get hurt.

I see now that she was threatening me. How horrible of her, to threaten her own child so.

SHAME!
 
2013-02-28 10:46:16 AM

JerseyTim: Why would Woodward lie about this? Follow the money.



Follow the money indeed.
 
2013-02-28 10:47:42 AM
To nobody's surprise, conservatives were quick to point to the Obama administration's "Chicago thug-style" politics.

For normal people, this would put egg on their faces.  But I doubt you'll hear anyone them admitting they got this one wrong.
 
2013-02-28 10:47:54 AM

hillbillypharmacist: Wild spacing

                                in a Fark post


study it out                                                       best part,


                forever


Timecube

Foursides
 
2013-02-28 10:48:24 AM
Bob Woodward -> played by Robert Redford in All the President's Men -> starred with Paul Newman in Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid -> was married to Joanne Woodward.

Coincidence? I think not!
 
2013-02-28 10:48:24 AM

Trivia Jockey: To nobody's surprise, conservatives were quick to point to the Obama administration's "Chicago thug-style" politics.

For normal people, this would put egg on their faces.  But I doubt you'll hear anyone them admitting they got this one wrong.


So far they're blaming Woodward for playing to their prejudices.
 
2013-02-28 10:48:34 AM

JunkyJu: JerseyTim: Why would Woodward lie about this? Follow the money.


Follow the money indeed.


When was the last time you seriously gave a sh*t about who our ambassadors are?
 
2013-02-28 10:48:59 AM

GiantRex: This is Obama's Benghazi.


No.  This is Benghazi's Tea Pot Dome.
 
2013-02-28 10:49:15 AM

cameroncrazy1984: So far they're blaming Woodward for playing to their prejudices.


They should.

(Who is, by the way?  Haven't seen that yet.)
 
2013-02-28 10:49:34 AM

Trivia Jockey: JunkyJu: JerseyTim: Why would Woodward lie about this? Follow the money.


Follow the money indeed.

When was the last time you seriously gave a sh*t about who our ambassadors are?


Prior to 2008, ambassadors were chosen in a national search for the best and brightest and chosen by merit only.
 
2013-02-28 10:49:37 AM
The sad thing is that the story about the threat is out there. The R base has that bit of information squirreled away. So, in about a year, they'll bring it up that Woodward was threatened by the administration as evidence that the President is a dictator, bully, etc. and the fact that there was no "threat" will conveniently slip down the memory hole.
 
2013-02-28 10:50:03 AM

Trivia Jockey: cameroncrazy1984: So far they're blaming Woodward for playing to their prejudices.

They should.

(Who is, by the way?  Haven't seen that yet.)


Daily Caller. It's posted earlier in this thread.
 
2013-02-28 10:50:30 AM

MilesTeg: I see the white house spin machine and their Fark shills are in full cover mode.

/expected


Only the mind of the derpiest mouth breathers is releasing facts "spin."

It turns out Bob Woodward is a farking liar, and a bad one at that. How did he think he could get away with this bullshiat? Does he not know that e-mails are pretty much a permanent record? Did he think he could just float this lie out there and the evidence proving it a lie would never come out?

I wonder if Breitbart.com has made him an offer yet.
 
2013-02-28 10:50:55 AM

JusticeandIndependence: Why on earth did he reply with this if he came out and said it was a threat?

Gene: You do not ever have to apologize to me. You get wound up because you are making your points and you believe them. This is all part of a serious discussion. I for one welcome a little heat; there should more given the importance. I also welcome your personal advice. I am listening. I know you lived all this. My partial advantage is that I talked extensively with all involved. I am traveling and will try to reach you after 3 pm today. Best, Bob



He was in fear for his life. In that situation you'll say anything to try and get the drone strike called off.
 
2013-02-28 10:51:14 AM
You don't just talk that way to Bob Woodward.
 
2013-02-28 10:51:18 AM
If he dies soon, and he could because he's farking old, the conspiracy theories are going to be epic!
 
2013-02-28 10:51:42 AM

MilesTeg: I see the white house spin machine and their Fark shills are in full cover mode.

/expected


It's hard to spin something when the FULL TEXT OF THE EMAIL was released.  You know, the email to which Woodward responded with:

Gene: You do not ever have to apologize to me. You get wound up because you are making your points and you believe them. This is all part of a serious discussion. I for one welcome a little heat; there should more given the importance. I also welcome your personal advice. I am listening. I know you lived all this. My partial advantage is that I talked extensively with all involved. I am traveling and will try to reach you after 3 pm today. Best, Bob

Does that sound like someone who honestly thought he was just threatened?
 
2013-02-28 10:52:06 AM

Trivia Jockey: To nobody's surprise, conservatives were quick to point to the Obama administration's "Chicago thug-style" politics.

For normal people, this would put egg on their faces.  But I doubt you'll hear anyone them admitting they got this one wrong.


just take a look in the prior thread on this email...the GOPers were going apeshiat, then suddenly, coincidentally around the time that the text of the email was posted, they all wanted to talk about something else.

/OMG a wolf!!
//that's not a wolf
///oh ok, uh...look over there! a WOLF!!!
////*facepalm
 
2013-02-28 10:52:08 AM
Oh no, we've moved on. Now it's "Why didn't the White House rush out to apologize in public first?!" and "But the sequester was Obama's idea! He's lying about it!"
 
2013-02-28 10:53:13 AM

JerseyTim: Prior to 2008, ambassadors were chosen in a national search for the best and brightest and chosen by merit only.


That's all fine and good, but my original question remains valid: does anyone really, honestly care who their ambassadors are?  This is a red herring to the topic of this discussion.
 
2013-02-28 10:53:59 AM
Truth and Truth in politics are two wildly different things.  Truth in politics is divorced from fact.  It stems from the willingness of the base to believe whatever their politician says is true.  In the last election, we witnessed Romney lying as fast as he could.  His job was not to educate, but to obfuscate.  In the day 0 reporting cycle we have gotten ourselves into, the first statement is going to be the one that gets the most air time.  The retraction will be printed on page 6 or across the crawler at the bottom of the newscast, or it is buried on some webpage.

The initial message is the important one, a huge claim backed up by little fact will always get the most traction and the fallout is so minuscule because you're on to the next claim and the next.  The facts have no choice but to play catch-up.
 
2013-02-28 10:54:18 AM

Lost Thought 00: Woodward should be disgraced and banished from the journalist community


He is getting a new gig on Fox News. This incident is being used to drum up some publicity and sympathy from the Fox News viewership. Hannity tonight and an announcement coming soon.
 
2013-02-28 10:54:30 AM

Farkomatic: What was the threat level? Yellow, orange, or red?


i50.tinypic.com
 
2013-02-28 10:54:46 AM

Trivia Jockey: JerseyTim: Prior to 2008, ambassadors were chosen in a national search for the best and brightest and chosen by merit only.

That's all fine and good, but my original question remains valid: does anyone really, honestly care who their ambassadors are?  This is a red herring to the topic of this discussion.


When we send out inept cretins like John Bolton to represent us, I care.
 
2013-02-28 10:55:24 AM
o hai, what's going on in this thread real life journalism.
 
2013-02-28 10:55:31 AM
TFA: "I know you may not believe this, but as a friend, I think you will regret staking out that claim."

Old angry white Republican's listening to their 'friends', that's madness!

Sure seems like a cry of wolf, when there's nothing more than a chihuahua... one that thought was his friend.
 
2013-02-28 10:55:36 AM

max_pooper: MilesTeg: I see the white house spin machine and their Fark shills are in full cover mode.

/expected

Only the mind of the derpiest mouth breathers is releasing facts "spin."

It turns out Bob Woodward is a farking liar, and a bad one at that. How did he think he could get away with this bullshiat? Does he not know that e-mails are pretty much a permanent record? Did he think he could just float this lie out there and the evidence proving it a lie would never come out?

I wonder if Breitbart.com has made him an offer yet.


Facts are the cudgel the liberals use to smash the conservative cause, this shouldn't be a surprise to anyone.
 
2013-02-28 10:56:02 AM

MilesTeg: I see the white house spin machine and their Fark shills are in full cover mode.

/expected


Did you read the e-mails at all?
 
2013-02-28 10:56:44 AM
Lol just looking at google news and the headline from Forbes is "Bob Woodward brings down another president". I clicked the link to see what type of bs Forbes was pushing and low and behold got "oops! We can't seem to find the page you requested"
 
2013-02-28 10:57:46 AM

Tymast: Facts are the cudgel the liberals use to smash the conservative cause


Ironically, it usually takes more than a smash to the skull to get people to acknowledge facts.  Those in the conservative bubble don't care about facts.
 
2013-02-28 10:58:23 AM

JerseyTim: Prior to 2008, ambassadors were chosen in a national search for the best and brightest and chosen by merit only.


You're not very good at derpstraction. For future reference, you might have better luck with "Look over there, Elvis is farking Marilyn Monroe up the ass and she loves it!" It'd be just as related and far more interesting.
 
2013-02-28 10:59:00 AM

Fluorescent Testicle: JerseyTim: Prior to 2008, ambassadors were chosen in a national search for the best and brightest and chosen by merit only.

You're not very good at derpstraction. For future reference, you might have better luck with "Look over there, Elvis is farking Marilyn Monroe up the ass and she loves it!" It'd be just as related and far more interesting.


I can't tell which side you think I'm on.
 
2013-02-28 10:59:09 AM

SlothB77: I've exhausted my limited capacities in the other thread.  I have nothing more to add for this thread.  Carry on without me, guys.


But who will post lies?? WHO??? 30,000 criminals on the street!
 
2013-02-28 10:59:41 AM
I love how the egg-smearers at Drudge Report seem to be making this look like Tony Soprano making threats when "you are going to regret........." is just another phrase for "Boy, are you going to feel like a horse's patoot when you realize what a blunder you made.".

And the right wing wonders why no one likes them.
 
2013-02-28 11:01:16 AM

Lost Thought 00: make me some tea: So then, wtf is he making this big deal about being "threatened", then? That's not a threat, it sounds more like advice. Come on, Bob, you're better than this.

No, he's not and he never was. He's a complete hack who got lucky once and only once, 50 years ago


Forty years. I'm old, but I'm not that old.
 
2013-02-28 11:01:49 AM
Sperling: "My bad. ... Really ... there are more than one side to our first disagreement."

This Sperling guy sounds like a true intellectual heavyweight.

I feel so much better knowing that he's in charge of planning an entire economy.
 
2013-02-28 11:02:11 AM

WTF Indeed: make me some tea: So then, wtf is he making this big deal about being "threatened", then? That's not a threat, it sounds more like advice. Come on, Bob, you're better than this.

He's pissed because "I'M BOB F*CKING WOODWARD! AND YOU WILL SHOW ME SOME GOD DAMN RESPECT!"


It's around this time Dustin Hoffman is consulting with his lawyers to see if it's still possible to change his screen credit on "All The President's Men" to "Alan Smithee".
 
2013-02-28 11:02:21 AM

make me some tea: So then, wtf is he making this big deal about being "threatened", then? That's not a threat, it sounds more like advice. Come on, Bob, you're better than this.


He needs to sell books by hyping up bullshait and no he isn't better than this.
 
2013-02-28 11:03:17 AM

GAT_00: It's amazing how quickly you can throw away 40 years of credibility.


i4.mirror.co.uk
 
2013-02-28 11:04:05 AM
i kiss you
 
2013-02-28 11:04:36 AM
Looks at Woodward's response email. Wonder if the guy talked with is still trying to pry the six inch dagger from his back.

I accept your apology, no big deal. Oh, by the way if my attempt to take something you said completely out of context in order to gain some attention ends your career. Well, I owe you soda. How are the kids doing?

What an arse!
 
2013-02-28 11:04:44 AM

MilesTeg: I see the white house spin machine and their Fark shills are in full cover mode.

/expected


They released the statements in their full context? Those manipulative bastards!
 
2013-02-28 11:04:55 AM
oops.....link didn't work....

i kiss you

i.imgur.com
 
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