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2013-02-28 04:48:14 PM

Balrog: What TFA doesn't tell you, but this FA does, is that the kid supposedly decided she was a girl at age 18 months, and Mommy and Daddy went along with it.

There's a big difference between 18 months and 6 years.


That article says "Coy Mathis, born a male triplet, has behaved like a girl since she was 18 months old. When her brother Max was consumed with dinosaurs, she was playing with Barbie dolls. By 4, she was telling her mother that something was wrong with her body. "

Playing with barbies doesn't make one a girl or mean that she vocalized or understood a difference in gender at two years of age. The continuation of identifying as girl so far does suggest that she is transgendered/transsexual.

/Hope I said that well enough.
 
2013-02-28 04:49:21 PM
easy to hang on to outdated concepts like boy = has penis,

Well it damn sure precludes girl.
 
2013-02-28 04:49:33 PM

horsepocket: When they have a surgery to change that fact, I'll respect their wishes to be called whatever they changed into and celebrate their brave act.


If a man loses his genitals in an accident, are you saying that you would then automatically recognize him as a woman, or would you only do so if he wanted to be recognized as a woman?
 
2013-02-28 04:51:22 PM
Homeschool him until he's normal.

Problem solved, I'll send you my bill.
 
2013-02-28 04:51:22 PM

The My Little Pony Killer: Let's use the words as they apply socially.


OK, let's.  "Him/He" = boy = has penis, "Her/She" = girl = has vagina.

The My Little Pony Killer:Definitions of words DO change over time, you know.

Yep they do.  These words, however, have not had their meaning changed yet no matter how much you'd like to believe they have.
 
2013-02-28 04:52:22 PM

Joe Blowme: ginandbacon: Joe Blowme: ginandbacon: Joe Blowme: ginandbacon: Joe Blowme: Biology is what makes you female, no matter how you FEEL about it.

You should really get up to speed with current gender research. You look incredibly ignorant and prejudiced.


You do realise the LITTLE BOY is 6 right? And you say i'm the ignorant one? Wow, please never have children.
You really need to get up to speed with reality.

That little girl is about  2-4 years past the age when children understand and can express gender. No one is talking about sexuality here. It's gender. She identifies as female. Her brain sends her signals that she is female. Her body doesn't match up to her identification. If you don't get this insanely simple concept, then yes. You are ignorant.

So you can read his mind? No you are guessing he has complete understanding according to your THEORY. HE IS A 6 YEAR OLD! If you dont get this insanely simple concept of reality, then you are ignorant and should never be allowed to raise a child.

I think it's very telling that you feel the need to comment on what kind of parent I would be. I am adding you to my ignore list as well. I have run out of patience for someone who is not my child.


Thank god, now i wont have to worry about you bullying me by calling me ignorant and hurting my feelings because you have no clue how children evolve and grow up in the real world. reading someones theories on how it works is not the same as living it but as i said before, i hope you never do it for realz. You must of had one farked up childhood to believe a 6 year old has the capacity to fully undrestand the ramifications of this descision and support the insanity of his parents for encouraging this. Maybe you are setting up 6 year olds be able to consent for your NAMBLA buddies, i dont know but what ever your reasons are they are misguided and insane. HE IS 6 YEARS OLD!!!!


Please, stay classy.
 
2013-02-28 04:52:31 PM

ginandbacon: Joe Blowme: Biology is what makes you female, no matter how you FEEL about it.

You should really get up to speed with current gender research. You look incredibly ignorant and prejudiced.


And you look incredibly crazy but lets not judge.
 
2013-02-28 04:53:23 PM

HaywoodJablonski: ciberido: gja: ciberido: Mager: Wow, since a six year old is fundamentally incapable of understanding gender roles, how farked up does Mom have to be in this situation. I guess she really wanted a daughter.

*points and laughs at the stupid person*


Using 'stupid' does nothing to bolster your standing or opinion.

Not really trying to.  If you're incapable of seeing how stupid Mager is without my having to explain it to you, you're stupid enough I'd rather just laugh at you, too, frankly.

Ah, the openmindedness I was chastised for not having last night!

Tell me something: where's your empathy for stupid people? You're quick to lash out at perceived slights against women and transgendered but have no inclinations against denigrating the "stupid". I'll have you know that stupid people make up 50% of the planet. You should do some research before making yourself look like a vapid twunt.


There's a difference between willful stupidity, such as is evidenced in this thread, and having a low I.Q.
 
2013-02-28 04:53:32 PM
Netrngr: ginandbacon: JohnnyC: the opposite of what it really is
 
This is a statement you need to rethink and rephrase. She experiences life as a girl. Her body doesn't reflect that. Which is reality? Her feelings or the fact that she has a penis? This is a very serious question. Do you honestly think that her genitalia are more important than her own identity?

A penis is reality. it can be touched, its physical, feelings about gender are brain chemicals reacting causing an emotional response thus not reality. Alter 1 chemical in the kids brain and he will think hes a farking zebra.. doesn't make it so


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuroscience_of_gender_differences#Male _v s._female_brain_anatomy


Educate yourself.
 
gja [TotalFark]
2013-02-28 04:55:47 PM

The My Little Pony Killer: gja: The My Little Pony Killer: gja: So, you think 6 year of age is adequate for a person to decide such matters as gender?

Six is well past adequate, seeing as how kids form ideas about gender (as well as assigning those ideas) by the ages of 3-4.

That is YOUR opinion and you are free and entitled to have, hold and espouse it. But that does not make it a universally accepted truth.
I stand by my statement that 6 is, generally, too you for a mature for that person to fully comprehend all the ramifications associated with life-choices of this magnitude and  scope.

Also, stop using one sentence as a single-point of focus for your retorts, that is an attempt to take things out of context and everyone can see that upon reading my full post.

This is not an opinion.  Try reading a study or two before spouting off YOUR opinions.


I have read many a study. Also, I have many TG friends and colleagues. A few friends have even taken the step to TS (full SRS).
It is NOT a UNIVERSALLY accepted scientifically supported fact that all people form their final gender orientation at such an early age.
I got that very clearly from the many convo's we have had over more meals and holidays than I can remember.
Perhaps after you have met some folks who have lived this, and have listened to their accounts and feelings you will be a bit more sensitive to this issue and how it impacted their lives.

Please show ma a study from an accredited, non-bias source that has been accepted as the universally accepted reference for this matter.
Hint: there is none. There are more studies than you can warehouse, but none to date have made an exhaustive enough sampling to be considered an unimpeachable and a single source of expert subject matter.

I have an open mind and will read any reasonable study you link in. When I have a moment I will link in some of the studies I have gone over, I am just a tad buried in some horrible 'systems hell' at the moment.
 
2013-02-28 05:00:32 PM

GanjSmokr: OK, let's. "Him/He" = boy = has penis, "Her/She" = girl = has vagina.


So any boy that has, for whatever reason, become penisless are automatically girls? Because there isn't a lot of room for them to be boys by that definition.
 
2013-02-28 05:00:35 PM
gja:
It is NOT a UNIVERSALLY accepted scientifically supported fact that all people form their final gender orientation at such an early age.

Most people do, though, wouldn't you agree?
 
2013-02-28 05:00:42 PM

horsepocket: Look, to all those calling this boy a girl because that is how he identifies: just because I think I'm awesome doesn't mean I am.


How do I know the rest of your post is going to be ignorant bigotry?
 
2013-02-28 05:02:18 PM
Let's review some more:

Penis/boy Vagina/girl=Willfully ignorant, uneducated, illiterate, bigoted

Penis/vagina/boy/girl/whatever you feel=Enlightened, tolerant, current, informed

Are we all clear? Still taking bets on baby number 5.
 
2013-02-28 05:02:28 PM

tinfoil-hat maggie: Gyrfalcon: sno man: Voiceofreason01:
David Reimer

yea, that's him... that story is sad.

Of course, there's a huge difference between raising an actual boy as a girl just because his pee-pee got cut off, and a person who is a genuine transgender. And a six-year old whose mommy needs to feel special.

Why do you believe 1. there is a difference 2. the mom just needs to feel special?


1.) The difference is that Reimer wasn't female in the head. He was a cisexual male who lost his genitals and was raised as a female because of it. If anything, forcing a transgendered female (female-brain) to live as a male would yield similar results.
 
2013-02-28 05:02:29 PM

GanjSmokr: The My Little Pony Killer: Let's use the words as they apply socially.

OK, let's.  "Him/He" = boy = has penis, "Her/She" = girl = has vagina.

The My Little Pony Killer:Definitions of words DO change over time, you know.

Yep they do.  These words, however, have not had their meaning changed yet no matter how much you'd like to believe they have.


Except that they HAVE changed, no matter how much you'd like to believe they haven't.

Just because the world doesn't conform to your bias on this subject doesn't mean the problem is with the rest of us.
 
2013-02-28 05:03:54 PM

TheDumbBlonde: Let's review some more:

Penis/boy Vagina/girl=Willfully ignorant, uneducated, illiterate, bigoted

Penis/vagina/boy/girl/whatever you feelhow your brain developed in the womb=Enlightened, tolerant, current, informed


Added some science for you.
 
2013-02-28 05:04:15 PM

gja: Please show ma a study from an accredited, non-bias source that has been accepted as the universally accepted reference for this matter.


Hint: You're still an ignorant bigot.
 
2013-02-28 05:05:03 PM

gja: The My Little Pony Killer: gja: The My Little Pony Killer: gja: So, you think 6 year of age is adequate for a person to decide such matters as gender?

Six is well past adequate, seeing as how kids form ideas about gender (as well as assigning those ideas) by the ages of 3-4.

That is YOUR opinion and you are free and entitled to have, hold and espouse it. But that does not make it a universally accepted truth.
I stand by my statement that 6 is, generally, too you for a mature for that person to fully comprehend all the ramifications associated with life-choices of this magnitude and  scope.

Also, stop using one sentence as a single-point of focus for your retorts, that is an attempt to take things out of context and everyone can see that upon reading my full post.

This is not an opinion.  Try reading a study or two before spouting off YOUR opinions.

I have read many a study. Also, I have many TG friends and colleagues. A few friends have even taken the step to TS (full SRS).
It is NOT a UNIVERSALLY accepted scientifically supported fact that all people form their final gender orientation at such an early age.
I got that very clearly from the many convo's we have had over more meals and holidays than I can remember.
Perhaps after you have met some folks who have lived this, and have listened to their accounts and feelings you will be a bit more sensitive to this issue and how it impacted their lives.

Please show ma a study from an accredited, non-bias source that has been accepted as the universally accepted reference for this matter.
Hint: there is none. There are more studies than you can warehouse, but none to date have made an exhaustive enough sampling to be considered an unimpeachable and a single source of expert subject matter.

I have an open mind and will read any reasonable study you link in. When I have a moment I will link in some of the studies I have gone over, I am just a tad buried in some horrible 'systems hell' at the moment.


I'm sorry what's FINAL here? the kid is six, no one is having surgery...  The kid identifies as female. IF that changes it changes...
 
2013-02-28 05:05:33 PM
The people of Colorado decided that transgendered students should not be denied access to gender-segregated facilities (locker rooms, bathrooms) based on other people's perceptions of their genders.  The law is very clear on that. School district has to suck it up and deal with any objecting parents or students.

It's noteworthy that here haven't been any complaints in a year.  Anticipation of potential problems that may arise in the future is not going to fly in court.  Government regulations that infringe upon legal rights must be based on something more than mere fear of things that haven't happened.  This school's decision is the embodiment of "arbitrary and capricious."
 
2013-02-28 05:05:44 PM
The parent are no doubt insufferable

After this court case they will be suing the other parents if "Coy" is not invited to the American Girl party or to the sleep over at Susie's house
 
2013-02-28 05:06:18 PM

sno man: I'm sorry what's FINAL here? the kid is six, no one is having surgery...  The kid identifies as female. IF that changes it changes...


And the kid has identified for YEARS at this point.  There is still quite a lot of room to grow before it ever comes down to hormone replacement or surgery.
 
2013-02-28 05:06:44 PM

The My Little Pony Killer: gja: Please show ma a study from an accredited, non-bias source that has been accepted as the universally accepted reference for this matter.

Hint: You're still an <b>ignorant bigot.</b>


DING DING. Ladies and gentlemen (y'alls choice): We have a Double Bonus winner.
 
2013-02-28 05:08:09 PM

gja: Also, I have many TG friends and colleagues. A few friends have even taken the step to TS (full SRS)


If you are, you're not a very good friend.
 
gja [TotalFark]
2013-02-28 05:08:14 PM

The My Little Pony Killer: gja: Please show ma a study from an accredited, non-bias source that has been accepted as the universally accepted reference for this matter.

Hint: You're still an ignorant bigot.


Cute, a link to a GIS. Nearly trolling there.
I will need to print out your retort so my friends can laugh at your nonsense about me being an 'ignorant bigot'.
 
2013-02-28 05:08:30 PM

LoneWolf343: tinfoil-hat maggie: Gyrfalcon: sno man: Voiceofreason01:
David Reimer

yea, that's him... that story is sad.

Of course, there's a huge difference between raising an actual boy as a girl just because his pee-pee got cut off, and a person who is a genuine transgender. And a six-year old whose mommy needs to feel special.

Why do you believe 1. there is a difference 2. the mom just needs to feel special?

1.) The difference is that Reimer wasn't female in the head. He was a cisexual male who lost his genitals and was raised as a female because of it. If anything, forcing a transgendered female (female-brain) to live as a male would yield similar results.


I agree.
 
2013-02-28 05:09:14 PM

JohnCarter: The parent are no doubt insufferable

After this court case they will be suing the other parents if "Coy" is not invited to the American Girl party or to the sleep over at Susie's house


Because private citizens are required to follow the same laws as a public institution, amiright?
 
2013-02-28 05:10:00 PM

LoneWolf343: gja: Also, I have many TG friends and colleagues. A few friends have even taken the step to TS (full SRS)

If you are, you're not a very good friend.


A good friend is one who listens well and then tells you the truth.
 
2013-02-28 05:10:12 PM

sno man: GanjSmokr: OK, let's. "Him/He" = boy = has penis, "Her/She" = girl = has vagina.

So any boy that has, for whatever reason, become penisless are automatically girls? Because there isn't a lot of room for them to be boys by that definition.


Did they get a vagina when they lost their penis?
 
gja [TotalFark]
2013-02-28 05:10:23 PM

The My Little Pony Killer: sno man: I'm sorry what's FINAL here? the kid is six, no one is having surgery...  The kid identifies as female. IF that changes it changes...

And the kid has identified for YEARS at this point.  There is still quite a lot of room to grow before it ever comes down to hormone replacement or surgery.


But won't change is the crap this child will have been made to endure by virtue of the mother thrusting this child into the publics gaze.
It is and was ill-advised.
 
2013-02-28 05:11:30 PM

tinfoil-hat maggie: LoneWolf343: tinfoil-hat maggie: Gyrfalcon: sno man: Voiceofreason01:
David Reimer

yea, that's him... that story is sad.

Of course, there's a huge difference between raising an actual boy as a girl just because his pee-pee got cut off, and a person who is a genuine transgender. And a six-year old whose mommy needs to feel special.

Why do you believe 1. there is a difference 2. the mom just needs to feel special?

1.) The difference is that Reimer wasn't female in the head. He was a cisexual male who lost his genitals and was raised as a female because of it. If anything, forcing a transgendered female (female-brain) to live as a male would yield similar results.

I agree.


Ah, crap, I read that as a question.

Ah, well, it needed to be spelled out for the avalanche of stupid bigots this thread has produced, anyway.
 
2013-02-28 05:11:45 PM

gja: The My Little Pony Killer: sno man: I'm sorry what's FINAL here? the kid is six, no one is having surgery...  The kid identifies as female. IF that changes it changes...

And the kid has identified for YEARS at this point.  There is still quite a lot of room to grow before it ever comes down to hormone replacement or surgery.

But won't change is the crap this child will have been made to endure by virtue of the mother thrusting this child into the publics gaze.
It is and was ill-advised.


You're clearly an intolerant, ignorant, bigot. Read a book. ;)
 
gja [TotalFark]
2013-02-28 05:14:10 PM

TheDumbBlonde: LoneWolf343: gja: Also, I have many TG friends and colleagues. A few friends have even taken the step to TS (full SRS)

If you are, you're not a very good friend.

A good friend is one who listens well and then tells you the truth.


I do not tell them anything. I just listen and remind them I don't give a shiat what they do, short of being a criminal in life, and I accept them.
Most of them I grew up with from cradle age. How can you possibly turn your face from those people in your life?
If they ASK my opinion they know they will get it, unvarnished, blunt, truthful.
And in the end all that matters to me is that they are happy.
 
2013-02-28 05:14:36 PM

GanjSmokr: The My Little Pony Killer: Let's use the words as they apply socially.

OK, let's.  "Him/He" = boy = has penis, "Her/She" = girl = has vagina.


So then this is a chick?
upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-02-28 05:15:12 PM

LoneWolf343: tinfoil-hat maggie: LoneWolf343: tinfoil-hat maggie: Gyrfalcon: sno man: Voiceofreason01:
David Reimer

yea, that's him... that story is sad.

Of course, there's a huge difference between raising an actual boy as a girl just because his pee-pee got cut off, and a person who is a genuine transgender. And a six-year old whose mommy needs to feel special.

Why do you believe 1. there is a difference 2. the mom just needs to feel special?

1.) The difference is that Reimer wasn't female in the head. He was a cisexual male who lost his genitals and was raised as a female because of it. If anything, forcing a transgendered female (female-brain) to live as a male would yield similar results.

I agree.

Ah, crap, I read that as a question.

Ah, well, it needed to be spelled out for the avalanche of stupid bigots this thread has produced, anyway.


No worries, I completely understand.
 
2013-02-28 05:16:48 PM

LoneWolf343: gja: Also, I have many TG friends and colleagues. A few friends have even taken the step to TS (full SRS)

If you are, you're not a very good friend.


A good friend is someone who ditches people when they start living in a way that makes them uncomfortable?

I wonder what kind of friends you have, and I feel sorry for you.
 
2013-02-28 05:16:52 PM

Joe Blowme: Theaetetus: quietwalker: As the comic notes, this kid is going to get bullied.

This may be a suggestion completely out of left field, but how about we try stopping the bully, rather than forcing the victim to conform?

Consider, rather than using the passive voice "the kid is going to get bullied," we could use the active voice "the bully will harass the kid," which focuses on the real problem - the actor.

How ever you want to phrase it, it will still happen.

/real world, how does it work?
//Right or wrong life aint fair or perfect
///bullies usuall have bully parents so let go after them as well.


Better to be beaten up by a bully occasionally than by yourself constantly.
 
2013-02-28 05:18:21 PM
Y'know, there's an awful lot of arguing going on here.  Has anyone thought of the fact that the mother is probably whacked out of her skull? Seriously. So what if she thinks her kid is a girl---fact is, he's not---and no amount of "thinking it is so" changes that. Give the kid another ten years and see what happens. Otherwise, he'll grow up looking/acting like a freak thanks to his parents "allowing" him to pretend. Heck, when I was a young kid I thought I was a winged dinosaur until, luckily, my folks talked some sense into me. It's not that hard a thing to do, really. Will be interesting to see how this pans out ten years from now. Maybe he'll be another Chastity Bono but I doubt it.
 
2013-02-28 05:21:36 PM

gja: TheDumbBlonde: LoneWolf343: gja: Also, I have many TG friends and colleagues. A few friends have even taken the step to TS (full SRS)

If you are, you're not a very good friend.

A good friend is one who listens well and then tells you the truth.

I do not tell them anything. I just listen and remind them I don't give a shiat what they do, short of being a criminal in life, and I accept them.
Most of them I grew up with from cradle age. How can you possibly turn your face from those people in your life?
If they ASK my opinion they know they will get it, unvarnished, blunt, truthful.
And in the end all that matters to me is that they are happy.


I was addressing the previous comment. By definition, you sound like a very good friend.
 
2013-02-28 05:22:12 PM

stiletto_the_wise: gja: That is YOUR opinion and you are free and entitled to have, hold and espouse it. But that does not make it a universally accepted truth.
I stand by my statement that 6 is, generally, too you for a mature for that person to fully comprehend all the ramifications associated with life-choices of this magnitude and  scope.

People "stand by" all sorts of rubbish. There are people who "stand by" the "fact" that the earth is 6000 years old, or that it sits atop a giant turtle. What does the research say?

"There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge." - Issac Asimov


"When confronted with the choice of changing their minds or proving that it is unnecessary to do so, most people immediately get busy on the proof."  John Kenneth Galbraith.
 
2013-02-28 05:25:22 PM

MelGoesOnTour: Welcome Kathryn!  First off, why don't you tell us a little about you and your family.I am a mom of 4 amazing, wonderful, awesome children (and one on the way!).  Dakota is 5 1/2 years old and has Autism. Coy, Max, and Lily are 3 1/2 year old triplets. Coy is our special little neuro-typical child. Max is also on the Autism spectrum. Lily had a very bad brain injury as a 4 month old and is about like having a 1-2 month old baby, but is so much fun (and feisty!).  I work full time at home as Lily's nurse as well as being a professional photographer outside the home.  My husband, Jeremy, is a full time student at two colleges and should be done with school in Spring 2012.
- See more at: http://visionarymom.com/an-interview-with-kathryn-mathis/#sthash.bMgs X miw.dpuf Check out this interview with the mom (who's pretty hot). Looks like they're got a pretty farked up family all the way around:

http://visionarymom.com/an-interview-with-kathryn-mathis/


FTA:
Coy, Max, and Lily are 3 1/2 year old triplets. Coy is our special little neuro-typical child. Max is also on the Autism spectrum. Lily had a very bad brain injury as a 4 month old and is about like having a 1-2 month old baby, but is so much fun (and feisty!).

Explains a lot. Leave the kid and the family alone.
 
2013-02-28 05:26:12 PM

untaken_name: Wow, that kid's parents must be MESSED up.


They should be in prison for child abuse. Their son will probably kill them when he gets old enough.
 
gja [TotalFark]
2013-02-28 05:28:41 PM

The My Little Pony Killer: gja: Please show ma a study from an accredited, non-bias source that has been accepted as the universally accepted reference for this matter.

Hint: You're still an ignorant bigot.


http://www.gender.org.uk/about/05devel/52_imper.htm

Have a read. Compliments of the old, ignorant bigot.Deliberately stayed away from american sources of AMA leaning authors to fend off 'tilted view' griping.
Many, many citations in this study.
 
2013-02-28 05:30:56 PM

Slartibartfaster: I have no problem at all with a transgendered child, my main curiosity is with society's insistence on single gender bathrooms. It seems rather wasteful.


I suppose you think supermarket express lanes are wasteful, too.  They are not.
 
2013-02-28 05:33:24 PM

LoneWolf343: tinfoil-hat maggie: Gyrfalcon: sno man: Voiceofreason01:
David Reimer

yea, that's him... that story is sad.

Of course, there's a huge difference between raising an actual boy as a girl just because his pee-pee got cut off, and a person who is a genuine transgender. And a six-year old whose mommy needs to feel special.

Why do you believe 1. there is a difference 2. the mom just needs to feel special?

1.) The difference is that Reimer wasn't female in the head. He was a cisexual male who lost his genitals and was raised as a female because of it. If anything, forcing a transgendered female (female-brain) to live as a male would yield similar results.


Uh, Reimer's "therapist" probably did more damage than anyone involved in the entire scenario.  For example, making the boy and his brother simulate sex with one another may - just maybe - have screwed both kids up.
 
2013-02-28 05:34:27 PM

DeathBySmiley: Englebert Slaptyback: The first-grader, Coy Mathis, was born male but identifies as female


And here I was thinking that surgery was required for someone to be transgender.

That's transsexual. There is a difference.

Gender = Identity
Sex = body parts


Ummm... no.

From the dictionary:

gen·der [jen-der]
noun
1. Grammar
  a.(in many languages) a set of classes that together include all nouns, membership in a particular class being shown by the form of the noun itself or by the form or choice of words that modify, replace, or otherwise refer to the noun, as, in English, the choice of he  to replace the man,  of she  to replace the woman,  of it  to replace the table,  of it  or she  to replace the ship.  The number of genders in different languages varies from 2 to more than 20; often the classification correlates in part with sex or animateness. The most familiar sets of genders are of three classes (as masculine, feminine, and neuter in Latin and German) or of two (as common and neuter in Dutch, or masculine and feminine in French and Spanish).
  b. one class of such a set.
  c. such classes or sets collectively or in general.
  d. membership of a word or grammatical form, or an inflectional form showing membership, in such a class.
2. sex: the feminine gender.
3. Archaic. kind, sort, or class.
 
2013-02-28 05:45:12 PM

wambu: MelGoesOnTour: Welcome Kathryn!  First off, why don't you tell us a little about you and your family.I am a mom of 4 amazing, wonderful, awesome children (and one on the way!).  Dakota is 5 1/2 years old and has Autism. Coy, Max, and Lily are 3 1/2 year old triplets. Coy is our special little neuro-typical child. Max is also on the Autism spectrum. Lily had a very bad brain injury as a 4 month old and is about like having a 1-2 month old baby, but is so much fun (and feisty!).  I work full time at home as Lily's nurse as well as being a professional photographer outside the home.  My husband, Jeremy, is a full time student at two colleges and should be done with school in Spring 2012.
- See more at: http://visionarymom.com/an-interview-with-kathryn-mathis/#sthash.bMgs X miw.dpuf Check out this interview with the mom (who's pretty hot). Looks like they're got a pretty farked up family all the way around:

http://visionarymom.com/an-interview-with-kathryn-mathis/

FTA:
Coy, Max, and Lily are 3 1/2 year old triplets. Coy is our special little neuro-typical child. Max is also on the Autism spectrum. Lily had a very bad brain injury as a 4 month old and is about like having a 1-2 month old baby, but is so much fun (and feisty!).

Explains a lot. Leave the kid and the family alone.


I agree, It DOES explain a lot. To me, it seems likely that Coy isn't afflicted with anything. It sounds more like the mother is trying "too hard" [I can't quite put a finger what she thinks she's trying to accomplish, so I'll leave that tidbit undefined] to push the kid in the wrong direction. I mean, really, he's only six years old. Potential TG issues or not aside, the child is not at a stage of true self-awareness yet; he's surrounded by sisters and might want, at this time, "to be like them". The parents seem to be in need of counseling (by whom? I don't know). To me it seems like they are know-it-all's, self-proclaimed psychologists. Bottom line, something just ain't right here.
 
2013-02-28 05:46:37 PM

gja: The My Little Pony Killer: gja: Please show ma a study from an accredited, non-bias source that has been accepted as the universally accepted reference for this matter.

Hint: You're still an ignorant bigot.

http://www.gender.org.uk/about/05devel/52_imper.htm

Have a read. Compliments of the old, ignorant bigot.Deliberately stayed away from american sources of AMA leaning authors to fend off 'tilted view' griping.
Many, many citations in this study.


Did you read you're link? Did you read it? Hint it's about 5-alpha-reductase deficiency not really what is being discussed here.
 
gja [TotalFark]
2013-02-28 05:51:01 PM

BarkingUnicorn: Joe Blowme: Theaetetus: quietwalker: As the comic notes, this kid is going to get bullied.

This may be a suggestion completely out of left field, but how about we try stopping the bully, rather than forcing the victim to conform?

Consider, rather than using the passive voice "the kid is going to get bullied," we could use the active voice "the bully will harass the kid," which focuses on the real problem - the actor.

How ever you want to phrase it, it will still happen.

/real world, how does it work?
//Right or wrong life aint fair or perfect
///bullies usuall have bully parents so let go after them as well.

Better to be beaten up by a bully occasionally than by yourself constantly.


To a point I agree, but please let's remember to frame this in the point of reference of the real world we live in.
People get killed sometimes, for less than the shoes they wear. Caution is needed where lives are concerned.
 
gja [TotalFark]
2013-02-28 05:53:58 PM

tinfoil-hat maggie: gja: The My Little Pony Killer: gja: Please show ma a study from an accredited, non-bias source that has been accepted as the universally accepted reference for this matter.

Hint: You're still an ignorant bigot.

http://www.gender.org.uk/about/05devel/52_imper.htm

Have a read. Compliments of the old, ignorant bigot.Deliberately stayed away from american sources of AMA leaning authors to fend off 'tilted view' griping.
Many, many citations in this study.

Did you read you're link? Did you read it? Hint it's about 5-alpha-reductase deficiency not really what is being discussed here.


It is an example of how there is no universal answer for age as it pertains to gender development. Did YOU not read? There are more pages than just the one linked to, please at least try to not be obtuse.
 
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