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(Canoe)   School authorities say that transgendered six-year old is no longer allowed to use the girl's room at the school. Wow, dick move   (cnews.canoe.ca) divider line 577
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2013-02-28 10:02:41 AM  
Wow, that kid's parents must be MESSED up.
 
2013-02-28 10:03:17 AM  
I saw that episode of Shameless.
 
2013-02-28 10:03:18 AM  
So is he/she a girl/boy or not? Seems no one can make up their minds here
 
2013-02-28 10:03:44 AM  
Wow, since a six year old is fundamentally incapable of understanding gender roles, how farked up does Mom have to be in this situation. I guess she really wanted a daughter.
 
2013-02-28 10:03:50 AM  

The first-grader, Coy Mathis, was born male but identifies as female


And here I was thinking that surgery was required for someone to be transgender.
 
2013-02-28 10:04:09 AM  
Excuse me ladies while I whip this out....
 
2013-02-28 10:04:48 AM  
Dude... it's a six-year-old. That could change again after puberty; who knows. Second, it's going to be difficult to explain that to the kids of the opposite gender of the bathroom he/she is using.
 
2013-02-28 10:05:08 AM  
Okay, the headline made me laugh.
 
2013-02-28 10:05:18 AM  
FTFA: It said the district's decision "took into account not only Coy but other students in the building, their parents, and the future impact a boy with male genitals using a girls' bathroom would have as Coy grew older."

Two issues here. First of all, she's a girl with male genitals, not a boy with male genitals. Secondly, who the hell is going to see them in the girls toilet? Do they check flaps before landing?
 
2013-02-28 10:06:13 AM  
At this age, it's conditioning more than nature.
 
2013-02-28 10:06:28 AM  
Transgendered at six?  What did the parents catch the kid playing dressup in his sister's clothes one day and just go full retard or something?  Seems way to early to make the call on the kid and more like creepy parents grooming the kid to be a transgender or something that ends up on an extra farked up episode of Law and Order.

/also considering the kid has access to gender neutral facilities, not seeing the problem
//seriously though, there is no way the kid has a full enough understanding of gender roles and all that at 6 to make a decision
/I think thought girls were gross and had cooties back then, yet I grew out of that
 
2013-02-28 10:06:46 AM  
The transgender author of TFA couldn't possibly have an agenda of her own, right?

/ my 10-yr old had certain feminine qualities when he was 4 or 5 so I guess we did him a huge disservice by not identifying him as a girl at that point.

// okay - so he used to be a brony but I fail to see where that's relevant.
 
2013-02-28 10:07:03 AM  
I am 110% okay with people who are transgender. While I admit I'm very cautious to assign the term transgender to someone who hasn't reached sexual maturity yet, I honestly don't see it as my problem to deal with.

However, bathrooms aren't divided by gender (what you identify as).
They are divided by sex (what body parts you have).

Maybe I'm being terribly unfair, but my response to the child and parents is "tough".
 
2013-02-28 10:07:38 AM  

orbister: Two issues here. First of all, she's a girl with male genitals


They call those boys, from where I was raised.
 
2013-02-28 10:07:41 AM  

Englebert Slaptyback: The first-grader, Coy Mathis, was born male but identifies as female


And here I was thinking that surgery was required for someone to be transgender.


That's transsexual. There is a difference.

Gender = Identity
Sex = body parts
 
2013-02-28 10:09:01 AM  
Transwhatnow!? Spooky! Scary!
 
2013-02-28 10:09:17 AM  

ha-ha-guy: //seriously though, there is no way the kid has a full enough understanding of gender roles


It's not a matter of choosing a role. It's a matter of knowing who you are.
 
2013-02-28 10:09:22 AM  
I am fully in support of LGBT rights, but in this case a six year old does not have a clear enough understanding of him/herself to be making these decisions.

I have to agree with earlier posters in that the mother here is way screwed up.

tfa says the kid prefers pink... cool nothing wrong with that, he likes girl toys fine... but in no way does he need to be using the girls restroom at age 6 in an elementary school...

These parents are as bad as pageant parents in projecting their own screwed up psych on the kids
 
2013-02-28 10:09:35 AM  
Child protective services need to rescue this kid and his siblings from their farked up parents.
 
2013-02-28 10:09:38 AM  
Its not like there are stand up stalls in the girls restroom, they all use stalls

...right? I mean I've never been in there so you all could have a three ring circus for all I know
 
2013-02-28 10:09:44 AM  
If your six year old has a penis he uses the boys bathroom. If your six year old has a vagina she uses the girls bathroom. It really isn't that difficult.

BTW, you have really f*cked up your six year old.
 
2013-02-28 10:09:58 AM  

orbister: Two issues here. First of all, she's a girl with male genitals,


On issue here: Grow a brain.
 
2013-02-28 10:10:33 AM  
In another interview, the mother in question described this child as "our neuro-typical child". This family is farked.
 
2013-02-28 10:10:39 AM  
Bigots... still on the wrong side of history.
 
2013-02-28 10:10:48 AM  

DeathBySmiley


That's transsexual. There is a difference.


That was kind of the point: I had a minor cranial malfunction and conflated the terms.
 
2013-02-28 10:11:05 AM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: orbister: Two issues here. First of all, she's a girl with male genitals

They call those boys, from where I was raised.


Just like they call albino africans "white", I presume.
 
2013-02-28 10:11:17 AM  
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2013-02-28 10:12:32 AM  

orbister: ha-ha-guy: //seriously though, there is no way the kid has a full enough understanding of gender roles

It's not a matter of choosing a role. It's a matter of knowing who you are.



At 6, he chooses to be whatever his parents encourage him to be. 'Cause he's farking 6 already.
 
2013-02-28 10:12:34 AM  
*chuckle*
 
2013-02-28 10:13:59 AM  

Kommissar: orbister: Two issues here. First of all, she's a girl with male genitals,

On issue here: Grow a brain.


Might I respectfully suggest that you do a little bit of reading on child development before saying anything quite so daft?
 
2013-02-28 10:14:00 AM  
ok, I'm totally supportive of equality for transgendered people -it's a hard thing, and they put up with way too much shiat from society for it.

But 6 is kinda young. A responsible parent ought to be delaying that kind of thing at that point. When they get to 11 or 12, and puberty is looming on the horizon and nature is gonna start making decisions one way or the other, then ok, if they're sure about it, then let the kid transition. But at 6, they should be keeping their options open and keeping things as neutral as possible. FTA: she can use gender-neutral facilities reserved for employees or those in the school's health room. Leave it at that.

Then again, of course, this article was plucked out from the blue specifically because it makes transgendered people and those sympathetic to them look totally irresponsible.... sigh...
 
2013-02-28 10:14:08 AM  

Kann: I am fully in support of LGBT rights, but in this case a six year old does not have a clear enough understanding of him/herself to be making these decisions.

I have to agree with earlier posters in that the mother here is way screwed up.

tfa says the kid prefers pink... cool nothing wrong with that, he likes girl toys fine... but in no way does he need to be using the girls restroom at age 6 in an elementary school...

These parents are as bad as pageant parents in projecting their own screwed up psych on the kids


Bringing the media into this drama will undoubtedly f*ck the kid up more. He is the middle triplet and may need attention. There are a number of scenarios here but for a right now he is a little boy and can use the boy's room.
 
2013-02-28 10:14:13 AM  
Look i'm all for adults being able to have whatever sort of lifestyle they want, but it seems slightly disturbing that a six year old boy can just say "I have decided i'm a girl, therefore you have to let me use the women's bathroom". If this precedent stands, i suspect that nearly 100% of teenage males in junior high will voluntarily identify as female in exchange for unrestricted access to the female locker room.
 
2013-02-28 10:14:57 AM  
Everyone has this covered, except I'll add why is there a picture of the kid?
 
2013-02-28 10:15:15 AM  
in before fark geneticists

the mom is a goddamn loon
 
2013-02-28 10:15:21 AM  

Mager: Wow, since a six year old is fundamentally incapable of understanding gender roles, how farked up does Mom have to be in this situation. I guess she really wanted a daughter.


The concept of gender starts to form around 2 or 3 years. It's why (most) 5 year old boys like GI Joe but not Barbie's magical adventure.
 
2013-02-28 10:15:41 AM  

TheDumbBlonde: In another interview, the mother in question described this child as "our neuro-typical child". This family is farked.


The expression "neuro typical" seems a little precious to me, but I can see why people prefer not to refer to children without ASD or other issues as "normal". A bit like civilised people say "gay" and "straight", not "gay" and "normal".
 
2013-02-28 10:15:52 AM  
Name the mental illness...

1. unwarranted sense of importance and paranoia
2. Lack of empathy for others
3. delusions and a skewed sense of reality
4. strange behavior and illogical behavior

Am I talking about schizophrenia? Paranoid Psychosis? NO! TRANSGENDERISM!

1. Unwarranted sense of importance and paranoia-  "I identify as a woman, it is MY right to do so, you are just homo-trans phobic if you disagree!"
2. Lack of empathy- "I identify as a woman, it does not matter if real women do not want me in the bathroom with them, its all about what I identify as, thats all that matters!"
3. delusions and skewed sense of reality- "I feel like im born in the wrong body, I am a woman despite all biological signs to the contrary"
4. Strange behavior and illogical behavior- "I will wear the most horrid womens clothes, perhaps some garbage found in the back of my grandmas closet or something no regular woman would wanna wear JUST to prove im a woman. Also women wear heels all day everywhere, so do I. Nevermind that I am fooling no one and I look like a trainwreck hit a womens big and tall, IM A LADY, BUB"
 
2013-02-28 10:16:04 AM  

orbister: First of all, she's a girl with male genitals, not a boy with male genitals.


And I'm a bird without wings.
 
2013-02-28 10:16:18 AM  
Does it have a penis or a vagina?

That's really the only question that needs to be asked here.

I don't care what you (or your mom) thinks you are, nature has actually given you a pretty big clue as to what you actually are if you just look down.
 
2013-02-28 10:16:19 AM  

DaWormyPimpsta: [1.bp.blogspot.com image 320x256]


Your face palm falls short, as do all others in existence.  No face palm of sufficient magnitude exists in the known 'verse.
 
2013-02-28 10:16:33 AM  

Kann: tfa says the kid prefers pink... cool nothing wrong with that, he likes girl toys fine... but in no way does he need to be using the girls restroom at age 6 in an elementary school...


Exactly buy the kid the toys he wants, but hold off on making the final call until he makes it through puberty.  Let the kid explore and once the body chemistry has settled down figure it all out.  in the men time just tell him he uses the room based on physical equipment.  For the kid to be so settled down instead of in a more exploratory stage, there has to be massive parental pressure here.
 
2013-02-28 10:16:39 AM  
www.cbc.ca
I say, Mrs. Crabtree - I have to sh*t like a pampered race-horse.
Allow me the use of the ladies powder room as I'm in denial of this dastardly penis I'm sporting!
 
2013-02-28 10:16:43 AM  

orbister: TheDumbBlonde: In another interview, the mother in question described this child as "our neuro-typical child". This family is farked.

The expression "neuro typical" seems a little precious to me, but I can see why people prefer not to refer to children without ASD or other issues as "normal". A bit like civilised people say "gay" and "straight", not "gay" and "normal".


How dare you call me straight, sir.

I much prefer the term "pussy wrecker".
 
2013-02-28 10:17:28 AM  
So when this "girl" hits puberty and decides he's a guy after all, what's mom going to do then?
 
2013-02-28 10:19:26 AM  

sudo give me more cowbell: But 6 is kinda young. A responsible parent ought to be delaying that kind of thing at that point. When they get to 11 or 12, and puberty is looming on the horizon and nature is gonna start making decisions one way or the other, then ok, if they're sure about it, then let the kid transition. But at 6, they should be keeping their options open and keeping things as neutral as possible.


Even if the parents could delay things, what they are asking for does seem to be keeping things neutral. Saying "if you feel like being a boy you can use the boys' toilets with all the other boys and if you feel like being a girl you can use the special gender neutral toilets along with the other sick freaks" is not keeping things neutral; it's heavily weighing the scales in one direction.

Kid wants to wear a dress and be treated as a girl. Can't see that it's any of the school's business to stand in her way.
 
2013-02-28 10:19:35 AM  
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2013-02-28 10:19:35 AM  

orbister: Secondly, who the hell is going to see them in the girls toilet? Do they check flaps before landing?


She'll leave the toilet seats up all the time. Just imagine the trauma...
=Smidge=
 
2013-02-28 10:20:03 AM  
Let's review: Mom has four kids. According to mom, one is full-blown autistic, one "measures on the autistic scale", one had a massive brain injury at 4 months and is incurably damaged and finally, one is "neuro-typical". So BAM, the only norm is suddenly transgender. I think mommy has a serious case of Munschausen or is on one hell of a martyr trip.
 
2013-02-28 10:20:19 AM  

Gyrfalcon: So when this "girl" hits puberty and decides he's a guy after all, what's mom going to do then?


There's zero-chance of that shiate happening. They'll beat* that crap right out of him, err I mean her.

/ beat = total mind-farking in this case.
 
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