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(Talking Points Memo)   In what is certainly a total coincidence, gay black man running for mayor in Mississippi found murdered   (talkingpointsmemo.com) divider line 170
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2013-02-28 10:21:10 PM

theaton: 've gone to far off topic on this thread with politics. My original point was that I find it strange that blacks want to be part of a party that wants to keep them enslaved. The Ds have been doing a good job of it since the end of the civil war and the blacks seem to like it.


Does it hurt to be this stupid?
 
2013-02-28 10:48:43 PM
My parents, in a senile state, have decided to retire to Mississippi. So I end up driving there from my safe haven on the east cost at least twice a year. I stopped taking 40, and take 85 down through Atlanta to pickup 20 into Birmingham and than 78 (Future 22) up to about 20-miles from the TN state line. Alabama scares me so, so so so so so so so so so so so sooooooooooooo much more than Mississippi ever will.
 
2013-03-01 12:59:46 AM
Bbbut, Morrisey said gay men don't kill.

/andrew cunanan who
 
2013-03-01 02:05:12 AM

Elegy: Regardless, it is extremely sad that Mississippi has lost a man who was a force positive change. Ignoring questions of his politics or personal worth, the mere fact that he was willing to run as himself, without hiding who he was from the community... Well, Mississippi needs more politicians like him. I would suggest we ALL need more politicians like him.


As a Mississippi boy I share this feeling. I would have been proud to say he was a mayor in my state.
 
2013-03-01 07:35:07 AM
Gay black man murdered by black man who might be gay. Move along. Nothing to see here.

It is the DC sniper case all over again.
 
2013-03-01 09:15:05 AM

theaton: I've gone to far off topic on this thread with politics.  My original point was that I find it strange that blacks want to be part of a party that wants to keep them enslaved.  The Ds have been doing a good job of it since the end of the civil war and the blacks seem to like it.


By the very nature of slavery, a slavemaster can't continue being a slavemaster without finding ways to trick the slaves into obeying and even protecting him/her. The master is one person, outnumbered by his/her own slaves who know where he/she sleeps, as well as by society that at least has to try to maintain a facade of disapproving slavery.

/it's not too hard to figure out which side wants people to be slaves, and which wants to be free
//the side that wants people to be slaves is obsessed with their own popularity, to the point that they react as if their lives are being threatened if they are ever criticized
///because they know they'll be torn apart by their own slaves if they lose their glamour for just a moment
 
2013-03-01 11:06:56 AM

Hermione_Granger: FloydA: theaton: Neritz: "And his worse sin of all?  He was a Democrat, in Mississippi. "

Actually, being a Democrat in Mississippi is not  a sin at all.  The KKK was started by Democrats.  Gun control was started by Democrats in an attempt to keep the black, ex-slaves unarmed and unable to protect themselves.

You are aware of what century this is, right?

Right. So you obviously think that past history has absolutely nothing to do with the present?

White people like you are always from the church of Last Thursday and your particular form of delusion never ceases to amaze and terrify me.



I'm an archaeologist.  Your assumptions are profoundly mistaken.
 
2013-03-01 12:02:25 PM

JustGetItRight: BizarreMan: JustGetItRight: So she says he didn't announce he was gay, and yet every single story says he was openly so and include quotes about him from various LGBT groups? Mom in denial?

Can't he be openly gay without making a public announcement?  What if he's just been out forever and everybody knew it and nobody cared or even remembered when they first knew he was gay because it was irrelevant?

You're quite possibly right, but if everyone knew and considered it irrelevant why is it important to the headline?

MaliFinn: JustGetItRight: And amazingly according to mugshots.com, he's a black male.

http://mugshots.com/search.html?x=0&y=0&q=reed%2C+lawrence

Not.

Pretty confident statement.

Lawrence Reed
Mugshots.com ID: 49077015
Booking Number: 13999065
Booking Date: 2/27/2013 at 19:18
Last Name: Reed [...]
First Name: Lawrence
Gender: M
Race: B
DOB: 11/04/1990
Age: 22
Court Date: 3/01/2013

Know where clicking on the name takes you?
http://mugshots.com/US-Counties/Tennessee/Shelby-County-TN/Lawrence- Re ed.49077015.html

What's in Shelby County, TN?  Well, for starters the city of Memphis.   Memphis sounds familiar, where did I hear it?  That's right!  The news story from the Clarion-Ledger said "Reed was airlifted to the Regional Medical Center at Memphis."

SO, I've got a guy with the same name, who is the same age, placed in custody yesterday in the jail of the same county where Mr. Reed was transported for treatment.  There is also no mugshot available, which would be proper for someone arrested but not yet processed into the facility.

I'll admit it isn't a 100% guarantee, but I am feeling pretty good about my odds.


Looks like you get to chalk this one up as a win

That was some mighty fine detective work
 
2013-03-01 12:23:46 PM
JustGetItRight: Amos Quito: Oldiron_79: I cant wait till this ends up being a robbery or a lovers quarrel and all these people foaming at the mouth about zomfg racism KKK wargarbl are proven wrong, then exactly 0 of them own up to it.

CNN spoke with the candidate's mother, Patricia McMillian, who wanted to dispel some speculation that her son's death has anything to do with his sexual orientation. "He did not announce in public that he was gay," she told CNN. "I don't think he was attacked because he was gay."


It begins...

So she says he didn't announce he was gay, and yet every single story says he was openly so and include quotes about him from various LGBT groups?  Mom in denial?

Oh, and the guy in custody is 22 and was caught when he wrecked the dead guy's SUV.

http://www.clarionledger.com/article/20130228/NEWS/302270056/Clarksd al e-mayoral-candidate-Marco-McMillian-dead-1-custody?nclick_check=1

And amazingly according to mugshots.com, he's a black male.

http://mugshots.com/search.html?x=0&y=0&q=reed%2C+lawrence


So we can now confirm that his (alleged)killer is black, so unless hes Clayton Bigsby we can rule out racism

So I guess now its down to whether its a lovers spat(as i predicted), a robbery(as I also predicted) or whether he was killed because he had teh ghey.

So is anyone that was calling me a tard for thinking it could be anything but a white Klansman want to step forward to eat crow?
 
2013-03-01 02:04:42 PM

Oldiron_79: JustGetItRight: Amos Quito: Oldiron_79: I cant wait till this ends up being a robbery or a lovers quarrel and all these people foaming at the mouth about zomfg racism KKK wargarbl are proven wrong, then exactly 0 of them own up to it.

CNN spoke with the candidate's mother, Patricia McMillian, who wanted to dispel some speculation that her son's death has anything to do with his sexual orientation. "He did not announce in public that he was gay," she told CNN. "I don't think he was attacked because he was gay."


It begins...

So she says he didn't announce he was gay, and yet every single story says he was openly so and include quotes about him from various LGBT groups?  Mom in denial?

Oh, and the guy in custody is 22 and was caught when he wrecked the dead guy's SUV.

http://www.clarionledger.com/article/20130228/NEWS/302270056/Clarksd al e-mayoral-candidate-Marco-McMillian-dead-1-custody?nclick_check=1

And amazingly according to mugshots.com, he's a black male.

http://mugshots.com/search.html?x=0&y=0&q=reed%2C+lawrence

So we can now confirm that his (alleged)killer is black, so unless hes Clayton Bigsby we can rule out racism

So I guess now its down to whether its a lovers spat(as i predicted), a robbery(as I also predicted) or whether he was killed because he had teh ghey.

So is anyone that was calling me a tard for thinking it could be anything but a white Klansman want to step forward to eat crow?



Nah.

The moment that they find out it's not one of their pet POUTRAGES (homophobia or racism) their brains will re-boot, and they'll totally forget that the incident ever happened.

Part of the brain's self-defense mechanism.
 
2013-03-01 02:13:13 PM
Oldiron_79:

So is anyone that was calling me a tard for thinking it could be anything but a white Klansman want to step forward to eat crow?

Did anyone actually say that?
 
2013-03-01 02:36:46 PM

FloydA: Oldiron_79:

So is anyone that was calling me a tard for thinking it could be anything but a white Klansman want to step forward to eat crow?

Did anyone actually say that?


I don't know if they actually said it, but they certainly hoped for it.
 
2013-03-01 02:53:13 PM

JustGetItRight: FloydA: Oldiron_79:

So is anyone that was calling me a tard for thinking it could be anything but a white Klansman want to step forward to eat crow?

Did anyone actually say that?

I don't know if they actually said it, but they certainly hoped for it.



Weird.  Who hoped that it would be the Klan?  That's pretty messed up.
 
2013-03-01 03:28:34 PM

Elegy: Pim



Prisons are but one institution.
 
2013-03-01 03:58:29 PM

FloydA: JustGetItRight: FloydA: Oldiron_79:

So is anyone that was calling me a tard for thinking it could be anything but a white Klansman want to step forward to eat crow?

Did anyone actually say that?

I don't know if they actually said it, but they certainly hoped for it.


Weird.  Who hoped that it would be the Klan?  That's pretty messed up.


Read the posts.  Heck, you don't have to get any further than the headline.  They wanted it to be some white southern homophobic racist redneck because it would help validate their own tightly held stereotypes.  Anyone daring to point out that the killer was almost certainly black because the victim was black and people are usually murdered by someone close to them (domestic/lover) or failing that, someone of a similar ethnicity (particularly true when the victim is black) was ridiculed even when they presented undeniable and overwhelming factual evidence supporting the assertion.

Look at the FBI stats on page 3.  Even if every single on of the 'unknown' killers in 2010 was white, black victims were murdered by white killers 9% of the time.  Flip the situation and white victims were murdered by black killers only 15% of the time.  2010 wasn't an aberration, it is that way every year.

Remember those facts, re-read the thread, and tell me they weren't about to wet themselves over the thought of a gay black man getting murdered by a white southerner.
 
2013-03-01 04:20:41 PM

JustGetItRight: FloydA: JustGetItRight: FloydA: Oldiron_79:

So is anyone that was calling me a tard for thinking it could be anything but a white Klansman want to step forward to eat crow?

Did anyone actually say that?

I don't know if they actually said it, but they certainly hoped for it.


Weird.  Who hoped that it would be the Klan?  That's pretty messed up.

Read the posts.


Which ones, specifically?

Heck, you don't have to get any further than the headline.  They wanted it to be some white southern homophobic racist redneck because it would help validate their own tightly held stereotypes.

Who, specifically?

 Anyone daring to point out that the killer was almost certainly black because the victim was black and people are usually murdered by someone close to them (domestic/lover) or failing that, someone of a similar ethnicity (particularly true when the victim is black) was ridiculed even when they presented undeniable and overwhelming factual evidence supporting the assertion.


Who ridiculed them?  Specific names, I mean, not just the mysterious "they."

Look at the FBI stats on page 3.  Even if every single on of the 'unknown' killers in 2010 was white, black victims were murdered by white killers 9% of the time.  Flip the situation and white victims were murdered by black killers only 15% of the time.  2010 wasn't an aberration, it is that way every year.

Remember those facts, re-read the thread, and tell me they weren't about to wet themselves over the thought of a gay black man getting murdered by a white southerner.



Who are "They"?

Nobody is doubting that black on black violence is common, and I didn't see anyone in the entire thread claim that it could  only have been a racially motivated crime.  It really seems to me that you're getting offended by something that didn't actually happen.
 
2013-03-01 04:50:34 PM

FloydA: Nobody is doubting that black on black violence is common, and I didn't see anyone in the entire thread claim that it could  only have been a racially motivated crime.  It really seems to me that you're getting offended by something that didn't actually happen.


0/10 -- your obtuseness is far too pronounced. Study things out first, and you'll do far better on the trolls.
 
2013-03-01 05:33:55 PM
FloydA: JustGetItRight: FloydA: Oldiron_79:

So is anyone that was calling me a tard for thinking it could be anything but a white Klansman want to step forward to eat crow?

Did anyone actually say that?

I don't know if they actually said it, but they certainly hoped for it.


Weird.  Who hoped that it would be the Klan?  That's pretty messed up.


From the headline on down really, they may not have said it as directly as I did in summarizing them but that was the cut of their jib.
 
2013-03-01 05:58:10 PM

Oldiron_79: FloydA: JustGetItRight: FloydA: Oldiron_79:

So is anyone that was calling me a tard for thinking it could be anything but a white Klansman want to step forward to eat crow?

Did anyone actually say that?

I don't know if they actually said it, but they certainly hoped for it.


Weird.  Who hoped that it would be the Klan?  That's pretty messed up.

From the headline on down really, they may not have said it as directly as I did in summarizing them but that was the cut of their jib.



So just a sort of general "everybody" then?  The almighty "they" are doing it, even though we can't actually see them?   Wow, "they" are really sneaky!

Either that or you're getting defensive about an attack that didn't actually happen.  Definitely one of those two.
 
2013-03-01 06:35:12 PM

JustGetItRight: FloydA: JustGetItRight: FloydA: Oldiron_79:

So is anyone that was calling me a tard for thinking it could be anything but a white Klansman want to step forward to eat crow?

Did anyone actually say that?

I don't know if they actually said it, but they certainly hoped for it.


Weird.  Who hoped that it would be the Klan?  That's pretty messed up.

Read the posts.  Heck, you don't have to get any further than the headline.  They wanted it to be some white southern homophobic racist redneck because it would help validate their own tightly held stereotypes.  Anyone daring to point out that the killer was almost certainly black because the victim was black and people are usually murdered by someone close to them (domestic/lover) or failing that, someone of a similar ethnicity (particularly true when the victim is black) was ridiculed even when they presented undeniable and overwhelming factual evidence supporting the assertion.

Look at the FBI stats on page 3.  Even if every single on of the 'unknown' killers in 2010 was white, black victims were murdered by white killers 9% of the time.  Flip the situation and white victims were murdered by black killers only 15% of the time.  2010 wasn't an aberration, it is that way every year.

Remember those facts, re-read the thread, and tell me they weren't about to wet themselves over the thought of a gay black man getting murdered by a white southerner.


My family history is so dysfunctional. It appears that some time in the 1840's they were able to be classified as "White". There is family lore about a couple of Klansmen in the family being somewhat shocked to find out about lineage, especially about being blacks who owned blacks.

So, my high yellow ass always gets a kick out of being called whitey, and at the same time being annoyed with the strawmen that constantly preach hatred based on skin color.

We are all pink on the inside, even the filthy Democrats.
 
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