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(BBC)   This hacker war will get out of hand. It'll get out of hand and we'll be lucky if we don't make a movie about it   (bbc.co.uk) divider line 58
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2013-02-28 01:29:58 PM
Agrees
i536.photobucket.com
 
2013-02-28 01:31:56 PM
We need Matthew Broderick and we need him NOW.
 
2013-02-28 01:36:47 PM
There's no such thing as a cyber war. It may start on computers, but it will end in explosions.
 
2013-02-28 01:41:41 PM
www.smileylich.com
Fire sale
 
2013-02-28 01:42:36 PM

SovietCanuckistan: We need Matthew Broderick and we need him NOW.


Um....no.
 
2013-02-28 01:42:37 PM
Can we stop quoting this movie? Or at least stop quoting this line? Hey, we can use the same movie but maybe we can quote the line that comes right after it. Or before it. I got it! Why not use a quote from Fred's political career? Something really obscure ripped right off of CSPAN. Like, "I don't want to repeat myself" or "Your crackers suck, Senator, and so do you."
 
2013-02-28 01:44:51 PM
Pfft all we need to do is making a GUI using Visual Basic and track their IPs.
 
2013-02-28 01:46:19 PM
One ping only
 
2013-02-28 01:46:32 PM

SpdrJay: SovietCanuckistan: We need Matthew Broderick and we need him NOW.

Um....no.


C'mon, he saved the world form the Russia when he was just a teen!
 
2013-02-28 01:50:09 PM
So did Swayze.
 
2013-02-28 01:50:28 PM
Too late...

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-02-28 01:51:01 PM
Can't be much worse than The Net.
 
2013-02-28 01:51:49 PM
Movie financing through your grandma's savings account.

i.imgur.com
 
2013-02-28 01:53:46 PM
Thanks Ric Romero!
 
2013-02-28 01:54:35 PM

mortimer_ford: Can we stop quoting this movie? Or at least stop quoting this line? Hey, we can use the same movie but maybe we can quote the line that comes right after it. Or before it. I got it! Why not use a quote from Fred's political career? Something really obscure ripped right off of CSPAN. Like, "I don't want to repeat myself" or "Your crackers suck, Senator, and so do you."


no. you know why? Because this line is very apt for many things. So sit the fark down and shut up ^_^

/subby
 
2013-02-28 01:54:42 PM
imgs.xkcd.com

Not the one I started off thinking about but pretty damned apt.
 
2013-02-28 01:54:51 PM
I want a Winnebago.
 
2013-02-28 01:55:21 PM

mortimer_ford: Can we stop quoting this movie? Or at least stop quoting this line? Hey, we can use the same movie but maybe we can quote the line that comes right after it. Or before it. I got it! Why not use a quote from Fred's political career? Something really obscure ripped right off of CSPAN. Like, "I don't want to repeat myself" or "Your crackers suck, Senator, and so do you."


This spate of quoting will get out of hand.  It'll get out of hand and we'll be lucky if we don't get a Fark thread about it.
 
2013-02-28 02:00:26 PM
For Gawd's sake, don't give Ben Assleck anymore ideas for another `lone 'merikun saves the world' flick.
 
2013-02-28 02:00:35 PM
the same china who claims they never hacked anyone now claims someone from the US is "attacking their websites." Yeah sure china, sure.
 
2013-02-28 02:03:45 PM
encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com
This is hacking
 
2013-02-28 02:05:33 PM

Sin_City_Superhero: Too late...

[upload.wikimedia.org image 220x326]


Thatsthejoke.jpg

/now when are they remaking Gia?
 
2013-02-28 02:05:46 PM

LarryDan43: I want a Winnebago.


"Fine...a Winnebago. Anyone else?"

*steps forward* I want peace on earth and goodwill towards man

"We are the NSA! We don't do peace on Earth!"
 
2013-02-28 02:09:01 PM
De fencing the world eh?
 
2013-02-28 02:10:18 PM
On Stephen Fry in America, he visited a secret lab in Los Alamos where a lot of secret NSA computers are doing all sorts of secret science things. Stephen asked the guy how often the computers are hacked, and the guy said that there's about 3.5 million hacking attempts a day. Mostly originating from China.

The video is here.

/so I guess this makes us even?
 
2013-02-28 02:13:45 PM
HACK THE PLANET... HACK THE PLANET.

I want to come back in my next life as Razor or Blade.. can't decide which one yet.
 
2013-02-28 02:13:54 PM
Losalamos is good, but Sadia Labs is the schizznit. Vaulted rooms and the like.
 
2013-02-28 02:17:26 PM
Hackers have useful skiltz, but so do regular IT guys.  Chess game.

/I called on an old IT buddy recently to help recover the key code on a Cisco router, which I'd entirely lost.

//took him about 4 minutes
 
2013-02-28 02:23:11 PM
I would be more worried about s korea and russia than USA ATM
 
2013-02-28 02:24:10 PM
The problem is, just because the attacks originated in the US doesn't mean that the people controlling those attacks are in the US as well.  Case in point: during the recent DDoS attacks against US financial institutions, many of the attacking clients originated from western Europe.  Yet groups from Islamic states were the ones taking credit and most likely orchestrating the attacks.

One of the things I look forward to with IPv6 is that address blocs are supposedly assigned so that continents have specific ranges.  That makes setting up rules and control lists based off of geographical location much easier.  Today, I have a very complicated set of rules on my home firewall that completely block several countries and mark a couple of continents as suspect.  It took hundreds of blocs of addresses to define.  If I could do it with a couple of dozen instead, that would be great.
 
2013-02-28 02:26:56 PM
Speaking of hacking and movies, can anyone recommend a good documentary about hackers? My SO seems to think that ones exists, but I haven't been able to find any...
 
2013-02-28 02:29:59 PM
cgraves67: "There's no such thing as a cyber war. It may start on computers, but it will end in explosions."

Nah.  "Cyber war" is just a new label to slap on all the back-and-forth espionage bullshiat nations have been using spies for, for centuries.
And that shiat escalated into a remarkably small number of wars.

If a "cyber attack" precedes an actual war, it will almost certainly have been designed to catalyze said conflict and/or prepare the battlefield for a conflict decided upon in advance.
 
2013-02-28 02:30:49 PM

RoyFokker'sGhost: LarryDan43: I want a Winnebago.

"Fine...a Winnebago. Anyone else?"

*steps forward* I want peace on earth and goodwill towards man

"We are the NSA! We don't do peace on Earth!"


"Come on, now.  The FBI'd give him twins!"
"NO."
 
2013-02-28 02:31:17 PM
Hackers 4: Hack the Planet!
 
2013-02-28 02:31:20 PM

RoyFokker'sGhost: LarryDan43: I want a Winnebago.

"Fine...a Winnebago. Anyone else?"

*steps forward* I want peace on earth and goodwill towards man

"We are the NSA! We don't do peace on Earth!"


OK, how about the girl with the Uzi's phone number?

Just one date...you can chaperon.

/Love that movie
 
2013-02-28 02:32:36 PM

DeltaPunch: Speaking of hacking and movies, can anyone recommend a good documentary about hackers? My SO seems to think that ones exists, but I haven't been able to find any...


http://hackvids.apostolidis.net/
 
2013-02-28 02:33:23 PM
Is it just me, or does China's comment sound like they just took ours and switched the names? It's not even remotely original.
 
2013-02-28 02:45:25 PM

RoyFokker'sGhost: LarryDan43: I want a Winnebago.

"Fine...a Winnebago. Anyone else?"

*steps forward* I want peace on earth and goodwill towards man

*eyeroll* "We are the United States government! We don't DO that sort of thing!"


FTFY

"What about you?"
Liz: Oh, I'm fine.
 
2013-02-28 02:45:32 PM

mortimer_ford: Can we stop quoting this movie? Or at least stop quoting this line? Hey, we can use the same movie but maybe we can quote the line that comes right after it. Or before it. I got it! Why not use a quote from Fred's political career? Something really obscure ripped right off of CSPAN. Like, "I don't want to repeat myself" or "Your crackers suck, Senator, and so do you."


Black Lotus reporting
 
2013-02-28 02:52:44 PM
My ecig. battery lasted all day so far.
 
2013-02-28 02:54:50 PM

oldfarthenry: For Gawd's sake, don't give Ben Assleck anymore ideas for another `lone 'merikun saves the world' flick.


I don't know if your name is henry, but two out of three ain't bad.
 
2013-02-28 02:55:19 PM

spentshells: I would be more worried about s korea and russia than USA ATM


I wouldn't mess around with ATMs. You don't hack a bank across state lines from your house, you'll get nailed by the FBI. Where are your brains, in your ass? Don't you know anything? Stupid, man, it's universally stupid...
 
2013-02-28 02:55:50 PM
farm3.static.flickr.com
 
2013-02-28 03:04:34 PM
We need to draw the important distinction between governments hacking each other and governments hacking private companies.

Governments hacking each other == updated version of the same spy vs. spy shiat that has been happening since the concepts of government began. We expect all governments that are capable of doing this to do it, and I strongly suspect we do it to them as well. I have no significant problem with this except if someone is getting better at it then we are, and to be clear my problem then isn't "you shouldn't do this!" it's "we should do it better!" All of the responses along the lines of "we do this to them, too!" fall in this category.

But governments hacking private companies is something else entirely, and this is what the majority of the uproar is about. China hacks private companies to steal their information to either use directly or feed to their state owned companies in order to create a false economy. Their need to do this is relatively straight-forward if you think about it. They have an incredible number of people to keep happy (or face revolt against their corrupt government), and the only way to do that is sustain this 7-9% growth rate, and the only way they can keep that up is by skipping that whole slow/expensive r&d process that companies have to go through.

So yeah, their reasoning makes sense, but that doesn't make it any less morally reprehensible.
 
2013-02-28 03:08:07 PM

tommyl66: spentshells: I would be more worried about s korea and russia than USA ATM

I wouldn't mess around with ATMs. You don't hack a bank across state lines from your house, you'll get nailed by the FBI. Where are your brains, in your ass? Don't you know anything? Stupid, man, it's universally stupid...


Okay I was thinking something totally different when I heard ATM.

/made more sense actually
 
2013-02-28 03:15:20 PM

mortimer_ford: Can we stop quoting this movie? Or at least stop quoting this line? Hey, we can use the same movie but maybe we can quote the line that comes right after it. Or before it. I got it! Why not use a quote from Fred's political career? Something really obscure ripped right off of CSPAN. Like, "I don't want to repeat myself" or "Your crackers suck, Senator, and so do you."


No. Memes don't work that way.
25.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-02-28 03:35:31 PM

WayToBlue: But governments hacking private companies is something else entirely


There are a number of old rumors floating around about how governments would install microphones into the first class cabins of their state airlines in order to eavesdrop on conversations of business execs back during the '60s and '70s in order to facilitate corporate espionage.  One story in particular talked about eavesdropping aboard Concorde airplanes owned by Air France.  As to the merit of the stories, few could actually say.  But I wouldn't be surprised at all if it actually happened.

I bring the story up because government sponsored corporate espionage is nothing new.  The difference now is that it is talked about so much more than it used to, and because it is crossing the line from espionage to sabotage.
 
2013-02-28 03:41:59 PM
The only theory I have about why so many love that stupid movie:

They saw it when they were 11, and a 1/2 second flash of Angelina Jolie went a long way.
 
2013-02-28 03:47:00 PM
I call BS on this. China, allow me to introduce you to the world's tiniest violin. Go ahead and make a billion copies; you'll need them.
 
2013-02-28 05:07:14 PM
Some things in here don't react well to bullets.
 
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