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(Huffington Post)   "The level of enmity and distrust here between Democrats and Republicans is as deep as it has been in a long time -- and both sides are in danger of underestimating the other's willingness to let destructive things happen to the country"   (huffingtonpost.com) divider line 138
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2013-02-28 09:26:06 AM
More "both sides are bad" from the "liberal" media.
 
2013-02-28 09:37:37 AM
Well, it doesn't really help that the President of the United States, who should be trying to bring together the political parties, is blaming the Republicans for everything from the Lindbergh kidnapping to meteorites hitting the earth.

Obama, the great divider.
 
2013-02-28 09:52:17 AM
the climate of partisanship in washington is 90 percent due to republicans and 10 percent due to democrats... so both sides are bad. got it.
 
2013-02-28 09:58:54 AM

BillCo: Well, it doesn't really help that the President of the United States, who should be trying to bring together the political parties, is blaming the Republicans for everything from the Lindbergh kidnapping to meteorites hitting the earth.

Obama, the great divider.


Oh god you're right the Republicans totally want to work with him but he won't let them worst president ever
 
2013-02-28 10:16:36 AM

BillCo: Well, it doesn't really help that the President of the United States, who should be trying to bring together the political parties, is blaming the Republicans for everything from the Lindbergh kidnapping to meteorites hitting the earth.

Obama, the great divider.


Getting creative today, I see. 8/10
 
2013-02-28 10:17:43 AM
Right.......
 
2013-02-28 10:17:53 AM

BillCo: Well, it doesn't really help that the President of the United States, who should be trying to bring together the political parties, is blaming the Republicans for everything from the Lindbergh kidnapping to meteorites hitting the earth.

Obama, the great divider.


Too obvious.  2/10
 
2013-02-28 10:18:12 AM
The modern Republican Party is the greatest threat the world has ever faced.
 
2013-02-28 10:18:19 AM
If you have a problem with spoiled children running the country, stop voting Republicrat.
 
2013-02-28 10:19:04 AM
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Jesus Lana, read a book.
 
2013-02-28 10:20:10 AM
We have to destroy it to save it from being destroyed by the other party.
 
2013-02-28 10:20:52 AM
Well, shiat. If both sides are bad, whom should I vote for?
 
2013-02-28 10:21:11 AM
This is the fark politics tab, so everything is naturally the fault of the GOP.
 
2013-02-28 10:22:16 AM

BillCo: Obama, the great divider.


I know, right? Remember when McConnell said that their number one goal was to make Obama an effective unifier, and Obama gave them the finger? Jeez, what's that guy's problem?
 
2013-02-28 10:22:27 AM
More blame from the blame everyone crowd.
 
2013-02-28 10:22:29 AM
This a conservative posting, so everything is naturally the fault of the 0bummer
 
2013-02-28 10:22:31 AM

skipjack: This is the fark politics tab, so everything is naturally the fault of the GOP.


Nah.  There are few like minded people in here that correctly point the blame.  That blame rests solely with capitalism.
 
2013-02-28 10:22:36 AM
Bwhahahahahahahahah!

That negotiating tactic works if both sides are reasonable, but as seen in Obama's first term whenever he moved closer to the Republicans they moved further away. The only way a deal is going to get done is if he breaks the Republicans and quite possibly the country.

The Republicans refuse to talk about tax increases and until they do there is no reason to offer them anything, because the problems we are facing economically as a nation will not be fixed by cuts to the budget alone. Obama has always offered them more cuts to the budget then tax increases, but they refuse to be reasonable.
 
2013-02-28 10:23:08 AM
Ahhh yes, that wonderful thing call false equivalency.

David Brooks called, he wants his schtick back
 
2013-02-28 10:23:11 AM
This IS a conservative posting...


ffs
 
2013-02-28 10:23:17 AM

BillCo: Well, it doesn't really help that the President of the United States, who should be trying to bring together the political parties, is blaming the Republicans for everything from the Lindbergh kidnapping to meteorites hitting the earth.

Obama, the great divider.


Obama has tried to negotiate with the Republicans...but the GOP 1. has no clear leader and 2. seems hell bent on destroying the country.  how do you compromise with a  party that believes compromise is evil?  A democratic republic CAN NOT function without compromise.  it's what keeps the machinery of government working.  But the Republicans not only refuse to compromise...they believe the entire concept to be evil.  so how do you keep it all together and working when the other half of your political structure is institutionally insane?

that's Obama's challenge.  And I do not envy the man.
 
2013-02-28 10:24:36 AM

busy chillin': We have to destroy it to save it from being destroyed by the other party.


It might be destroyed, but only because the Republicans are not being rational, but then when you drive all the intellectuals and moderates out of the party the only people left are those creatures nobody can negotiate with.

Anyway this won't break the country, it will suck mightily, but it just might break the GOP.
 
2013-02-28 10:25:28 AM

BillCo: Well, it doesn't really help that the President of the United States, who should be trying to bring together the political parties, is blaming the Republicans for everything from the Lindbergh kidnapping to meteorites hitting the earth.

Obama, the great divider.



You mean like giving the House 98% of what they wanted? Or extending the Bush Era tax cuts?
 
2013-02-28 10:25:40 AM
I got to the part where Obama has to "save the Republicans from themselves" and then I had to stop reading.


"As for the Republicans - how can one regard seriously a frightened, greedy, nostalgic huddle of tradesmen and lucky idlers who shut their eyes to history and science, steel their emotions against decent human sympathy, cling to sordid and provincial ideals exalting sheer acquisitiveness and condoning artificial hardship for the non-materially-shrewd, dwell smugly and sentimentally in a distorted dream-cosmos of outmoded phrases and principles and attitudes based on the bygone agricultural-handicraft world, and revel in (consciously or unconsciously) mendacious assumptions (such as the notion that real liberty is synonymous with the single detail of unrestricted economic license or that a rational planning of resource-distribution would contravene some vague and mystical 'American heritage'...) utterly contrary to fact and without the slightest foundation in human experience? Intellectually, the Republican idea deserves the tolerance and respect one gives to the dead."
- Letter to C.L. Moore (August 1936), quoted in "H.P. Lovecraft
 
2013-02-28 10:26:24 AM
Stopping bad bills from passing is more important than passing good bills.

Also, WE ARE WINNING!!!
 
2013-02-28 10:26:52 AM
Slaves2Darkness:

Anyway this won't break the country, it will suck mightily, but it just might break the GOP.

the republicans can (and no doubt will) do a LOT of damage in the process though.  and what happens once the Republicans self destruct?  our government cannot function without two parties.  the entire system of government only works because it's predicated on the existence of TWO political parties - the Republicans and Democrats.  not three, not one...two.  without those two propping each other up, things promise to get even more chaotic.
 
2013-02-28 10:26:53 AM

BillCo: Well, it doesn't really help that the President of the United States, who should be trying to bring together the political parties, is blaming the Republicans for everything from the Lindbergh kidnapping to meteorites hitting the earth.

Obama, the great divider.


To be fair, you cannot blame Obama for a lack of leadership, when he has none to begin with.  Since everyone in Washington knows he does not legitimately hold the Office of President of the United States of America, no one pays any attention to him and his empty suit.  The real culprit here is teh Democratic party, which won a narrow victory in November through shady voting practices by the coastal elites and illegal immigrants, and are now acting like they have cart blounche to spend this country into oblivia.

If your looking for someone to blame, blame the group that wants to spend money we don't have on things we don't need.
 
2013-02-28 10:27:09 AM
Obama should challenge McConnell to arm wrestle, then let him win. Maybe then something good can happen.
 
2013-02-28 10:27:50 AM

I commend the WH for having the President go to Capitol Hill Wed. to meet with Congress.


7 minutes he spent.    About the exact time required for a photo-op.    Amirite?




/spent more time threatening journalists

 
2013-02-28 10:28:02 AM
BilltheThrill:
If your looking for someone to blame, blame the group that wants to spend money we don't have on things we don't need.

so far that's both parties...
 
2013-02-28 10:31:24 AM

BilltheThrill: If your looking for someone to blame, blame the group that wants to spend money we don't have on things we don't need.


the Pentagon?
 
2013-02-28 10:35:41 AM

Weaver95: Slaves2Darkness:

Anyway this won't break the country, it will suck mightily, but it just might break the GOP.

the republicans can (and no doubt will) do a LOT of damage in the process though.  and what happens once the Republicans self destruct?  our government cannot function without two parties.  the entire system of government only works because it's predicated on the existence of TWO political parties - the Republicans and Democrats.  not three, not one...two.  without those two propping each other up, things promise to get even more chaotic.


What happens is that a lot of little parties will start up and try to fill the void, meanwhile the Democrats will have an easier time, but not total free reign. What I expect to happen is that the Republicans lose a lot of seats to independents  who eventually form a new party.

This new party will probably be focused on economics while leaning heavily to the right on social issues. Looking a lot like the GOP used to look before the evangelicalism got a hold of it.
 
2013-02-28 10:36:04 AM
While there certainly are stupid Democrats who put party first and will block even sensible things that everyone likes, or insert unreasonable demands into bills that cause them to fail... when for one party it's "some people" and for the other it's "every single member of the entire party" you kind of have to admit that the problem is really the GOP's.
 
2013-02-28 10:39:14 AM
The Democrats will admit they've got some things that need fixing - a couple members who shouldn't be in office, sometimes they get cranky and obstinate.  a few procedural errors they should fix within their party.  that sort of thing.  But I don't the Republicans admitting that they've made mistakes.  Romney never did, nor has Boehner.  the tea party believes they're right and everyone else is wrong.  the evangelicals KNOW they are right and everyone else is evil.  Nobody can tell the GOP that they've got the wrong ideas or that they're going about things in a very bad way...they just assume that any critical review is 'Republican bashing' and bunker down till it blows over.  then get right back up and keep doing the same things they've always done.

I don't get it.
 
2013-02-28 10:40:22 AM

BilltheThrill: BillCo: Well, it doesn't really help that the President of the United States, who should be trying to bring together the political parties, is blaming the Republicans for everything from the Lindbergh kidnapping to meteorites hitting the earth.

Obama, the great divider.

To be fair, you cannot blame Obama for a lack of leadership, when he has none to begin with.  Since everyone in Washington knows he does not legitimately hold the Office of President of the United States of America, no one pays any attention to him and his empty suit.  The real culprit here is teh Democratic party, which won a narrow victory in November through shady voting practices by the coastal elites and illegal immigrants, and are now acting like they have cart blounche to spend this country into oblivia.

If your looking for someone to blame, blame the group that wants to spend money we don't have on things we don't need.


I really, really hope this is
I really, really hope this is one person talking to himself with two of his troll accounts./Possibly while masturbating furiously to his own cleverness
 
2013-02-28 10:40:31 AM

Tyrano Soros: BilltheThrill: If your looking for someone to blame, blame the group that wants to spend money we don't have on things we don't need.

the Pentagon?


Blaming the troops?  I knew this was coming, just not so quickly.
 
2013-02-28 10:40:47 AM
I havent seen emnity like this since 1856.

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2013-02-28 10:41:53 AM
Who you blame comes down to whether you agree with raising taxes on the wealthy or not......guess what we just had a national election about this.  It is clear what the people wanted.
 
2013-02-28 10:42:57 AM

BilltheThrill: BillCo: Well, it doesn't really help that the President of the United States, who should be trying to bring together the political parties, is blaming the Republicans for everything from the Lindbergh kidnapping to meteorites hitting the earth.

Obama, the great divider.

To be fair, you cannot blame Obama for a lack of leadership, when he has none to begin with.  Since everyone in Washington knows he does not legitimately hold the Office of President of the United States of America, no one pays any attention to him and his empty suit.  The real culprit here is teh Democratic party, which won a narrow victory in November through shady voting practices by the coastal elites and illegal immigrants, and are now acting like they have cart blounche to spend this country into oblivia.

If your looking for someone to blame, blame the group that wants to spend money we don't have on things we don't need.



Please try make your alts a little bit harder to spot. It's good that you didn't just call this one "BillCo 2.0", but a little effort would be apperciated..
 
2013-02-28 10:43:05 AM
and both sides are in danger of underestimating the other's willingness to let destructive things happen to the country

Um, no.  Dem representatives and the President continually underestimate the GOP's willingness to let destructive things happen to the country, despite the GOP's best efforts to scream their intentions from the roof-tops.  The rest of us are left wondering if the Dems just intentionally let them do it.
 
2013-02-28 10:45:26 AM

BilltheThrill: Tyrano Soros: BilltheThrill: If your looking for someone to blame, blame the group that wants to spend money we don't have on things we don't need.

the Pentagon?

Blaming the troops?  I knew this was coming, just not so quickly.



Wait, troops determine the economic policy in the Pentagon?
 
2013-02-28 10:45:47 AM
Heh. You think?
 
2013-02-28 10:47:46 AM

LouDobbsAwaaaay: and both sides are in danger of underestimating the other's willingness to let destructive things happen to the country

Um, no.  Dem representatives and the President continually underestimate the GOP's willingness to let destructive things happen to the country, despite the GOP's best efforts to scream their intentions from the roof-tops.  The rest of us are left wondering if the Dems just intentionally let them do it.


let me put it this way - to a certain extent, theater and melodrama are always a part of politics.  you expect the other side to put on a show, do a song and dance, maybe include a bit of pyrotechnics while they play to the audience.  But to the Democrats, it still looks like a show.  the Republicans, on the other hand, are starting to believe their own press releases.  they're starting to think they really CAN saw a woman in half and not use misdirection and illusion to pull off the stunt.  thing is...they're not telling the audience what's up.  they're still acting like this is theater as usual....but they're quietly removing the safety devices from their equipment and proceeding as if things were going to turn out ok.  so is it just the normal tricks?  is it still performance art?  or is it murder being carried out on stage?  if we interrupt, will we find out it was all just a massive mind fark...or do we let it continue and hope the GOP really isn't as insane as they sound...?
 
2013-02-28 10:48:39 AM
Oh, boy, BSABSVR, this is new and exciting. Also, this thread got farmed in the ass pretty much immediately, so thanks for that.
 
2013-02-28 10:48:53 AM

Slaves2Darkness: The only way a deal is going to get done is if he breaks the Republicans and quite possibly the country.


Breaking the Republicans won't break the country and it's a good idea.
They need to be tossed on the rubbish heap of history along with The Whigs.
Hopefully the younger generations will be wiser than their Reagan loving Boomer ancestors.
 
2013-02-28 10:49:04 AM

"Well, Jay Carney, explain this to me: The most imperial president in American history, a man who boasts that he will rule by Executive Action if Congress refuses to pass legislation he favors, can't figure out how to direct spending cuts in a way that does the least harm to the American people?

....I can't wait."     -   Bill Frezza   Forbes

 
2013-02-28 10:49:22 AM

usernameguy: More "both sides are bad" from the "liberal" media.


The Democrats want us to raise taxes on people who make a lot of money. Republicans are willing to shut the government down to prevent that from happening. The Democrats are bad. The Republicans are bad. Lets not focus on which side of the issue most Americans fall on. Lets focus on the bullshiat idea that both sides are responsible for the "gridlock". And by gridlock I mean, Republican obstructionism.
 
2013-02-28 10:51:01 AM

LouDobbsAwaaaay: and both sides are in danger of underestimating the other's willingness to let destructive things happen to the country

Um, no.  Dem representatives and the President continually underestimate the GOP's willingness to let destructive things happen to the country, despite the GOP's best efforts to scream their intentions from the roof-tops.  The rest of us are left wondering if the Dems just intentionally let them do it.



That's the entire point of the article. At what point does the blame encompass all sides so thoroughly that the people revolt against the entirety of the government because of the inaction?
 
2013-02-28 10:52:11 AM

usernameguy: More "both sides are bad" from the "liberal" media.


This.

BillCo: Well, it doesn't really help that the President of the United States, who should be trying to bring together the political parties, is blaming the Republicans for everything from the Lindbergh kidnapping to meteorites hitting the earth.

Obama, the great divider.


Oh yes, BillCo with his usual "It's Obama's fault the Republicans' are childish assholes".  Nothing new here.
 
2013-02-28 10:53:38 AM
Summary of the article:  "Obama is acting rationally, and is willing to make concessions in the best interests of the country.  But that means it's his fault the Repbulicans are disorganised and refusing to do anything productive.  I have no idea if its even possible to solve this, but Obama needs to do it somehow."
 
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